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On June 08 2024 08:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 04:07 Trfel wrote:Having second thoughts about marvellosity. I think I do actually want to pursue this after all. On June 07 2024 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 19:27 Trfel wrote:On June 07 2024 16:44 Kelsi3r wrote:
I enjoyed Alpha Zero pointing out that scott had basically answered his own question and giving it a red flag. I love shit like that.
What does it say about scott? I don't know
But rsoutlin also liked it so I guess I like Alpha and rsoultin at this early stage.
Trefl and rayn were posting a lot and having a discussion, i've always been a sucker for activity = town . But ngl I didn't read a lot of the posts and sort of glazed over.
That's an ok starting point.
Yeah idk. The more I think about this (plus his previous post where he says he doesn't like Vivax) the more I am suspicious. If Kelsi3r doesn't know what AlphaZero's point about scott31337 means with regards to scott31337's alignment, that should lead to there being less reason to townread AlphaZero (and also anyone else) for this reasoning, no? Of course you don't always have to agree with someone's reasoning to think it makes them look towny, but it certainly helps. Furthermore, I could understand it better if he just said that it made AlphaZero look better, since they were the first to clearly lay out that line of thinking. But to add on that rsoultin looks good, purely for agreeing, when Kelsi3r himself doesn't even know if the point means anything for scott31337's alignment? Seems out of place. And to add, the only person he said he didn't like, Vivax, also commented on this kind of idea. Vivax didn't put scott31337's posts in contrast like AlphaZero did, but he (rightfully) pointed out that one of scott31337's posts in question didn't make a ton of sense. It wasn't exactly the same idea, but it was somewhat similar, and this was (presumably) enough to make AlphaZero say that Vivax looks town. Kelsi3r seems to have ignored this entirely, however? New top suspect, I think. I agree with this, the logic doesn’t track. On June 08 2024 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
I actually agreed with sand’s take on kelsier (sort of as a response to Scott here)
When I read mocstas vote on kelsier “you’re being intentionally obtuse”, I just thought well that’s a townie trait if ever I heard one So marvellosity agreed with me that Kelsi3r's logic didn't make sense, but then still includes Kelsi3r in the "town" category because Mocsta said he was being obtuse and that's a town trait? Reading through marvellosity's filter, I do still like that he acknowledged my point on Kelsi3r, and I like his line of questioning to Mocsta about his read change on me (Trfel). But he hasn't done really anything else of substance? It looks like his top suspects are scott31337 and Mocsta, and other than putting scott31337 at the bottom of his list post, he hasn't even mentioned him. Just feels uncharacteristically disjointed. I don't get the impression that he is looking for mafia, and I don't get the impression that he cares enough about his (few) thoughts to remember them later. I can talk about this. I bought into what sand was selling me. So that’s why Scott and kelsier were where they were. Mocsta I was/am suspicious of, still primarily because I think he was making it up when he talked about the posts you made. aawwwwww
Mate. I probably shouldn't have posted my first post
Game started at 10 for me and earliest chance I had to read was 4 sitting on plane
In short hectic mad day and I was so excited to make intro post for first time.in maybe 6years.. I see the length of the game and was like wtf I dont have time.to do this before take.off and lose reception.
Quickly skim and rsoultin and trfel.poats were the ones where my mind just disconnected from. Could not engage
So put it out there to just have out it out there
I wouldn't say the post content was forced because it's how I felt at that moment, although the sentiment that I needed to post something , yes was forced
It's also part of why I retracted once I landed and read thoroughly
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On June 08 2024 08:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:10 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 05:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 08 2024 05:07 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 05:06 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 08 2024 05:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 02:41 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rsoul what’s the Sandro scum read? hello oats how ya doing, just explained it up above, or i could use the word 'vibes' namely that he seemed like he was being all reasonable and shit but then his filter was very blah and focused scott who got the most flack from the beginning. very unexciting from a player i remember being good also i'm going to try not to read into preflip associations but note to self if sandro's scum this out of the blue poke from oats could be a scummate woot woot wouldn't it be cool if i found two already? \o/ sandy first ???? why are you so surprised? The read is “Sandro’s filter is boring” That’s not a real read + she just spams Sandro mafia lynch Sandro with me when he’s literally in the thread so wait, you think rsoultin is mafia? because of what exactly? Can you let me play or what What’s your vivax read dayam I chuckled.outnloud with this Town slight lean for me right there Is this bravado in mafia!oats range? Yes ohh 
Now I have to read your filter 😂
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I Thi lnk Marv is saying he wants trfel to join the town club
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On June 08 2024 08:25 marvellosity wrote:
Tomorrow I am going to re look at kelsier (through truffle’s eyes) because I think Trfel is town and I’m curious about the lack of traction he’s getting (I am well aware I am part of that lack of traction!)
It's possible the lack of attraction is association with me
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Rsoultin, I understand what you're saying about sandroba, but that strikes me more as reasons to not townread him than as reasons to scumread him? What am I missing?
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On June 08 2024 08:35 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:33 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 08:29 scott31337 wrote:I've read the thread but I've had a long day at work as well, so am a bit tired. I searched my name in Alpha's filter - 20 times at the moment And if you have been paying attention - keeps calling me scummy. I search for Vivax - On June 07 2024 12:12 AlphaZero wrote:
Vivax looks town. 20 hours ago The rest is quotes from Vivax or others saying his name. A post an hour ago Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him And now he votes for him. But AZ has been calling me scummy all game so far. Seems suspicious to me. Lol I knew someone (probably mafia) would makes this argument before I even posted my thoughts on vivax. And I did it anyway. What does it mean??
That DP rolled mafia again?
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On June 08 2024 08:36 rsoultin wrote:
can i just say that if sandy turns out to be scum the townies in this game owe me a big apology
if you can point out one thing he said in his catch up someone else hadn't already said...well then i'm misremembering shit for one. maybe the kelsier thing idk eeeeh i don't wanna look back at it though stop making me work -_-
fine fine
also fuck you marv -_- reminding me how often rayn tunneled me when we were both town is not helping my paranoia at all
is he really all buddy buddy these days? he certainly wasn't last time we played. not that it matters, cause he likes to buddy me when he's mafia asdgaga
okay it does seem he was first on the kelsier read so i def misremembered that
my impression was he was largely following thread sentiment with the excuse of catching up without adding anything. idk if the kelsier read being an outlier is enough to change my opinion
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On June 08 2024 08:45 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:35 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 08:33 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 08:29 scott31337 wrote:I've read the thread but I've had a long day at work as well, so am a bit tired. I searched my name in Alpha's filter - 20 times at the moment And if you have been paying attention - keeps calling me scummy. I search for Vivax - On June 07 2024 12:12 AlphaZero wrote:
Vivax looks town. 20 hours ago The rest is quotes from Vivax or others saying his name. A post an hour ago Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him And now he votes for him. But AZ has been calling me scummy all game so far. Seems suspicious to me. Lol I knew someone (probably mafia) would makes this argument before I even posted my thoughts on vivax. And I did it anyway. What does it mean?? That DP rolled mafia again?
Wrong! On two counts!
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sorry guys for beeing inactiv the hole day I will catch up now
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On June 08 2024 08:32 scott31337 wrote:
Who do you want to lynch today Mocsta?
Don't know
Regardless of alignment people read me. Pull wise I'm in bottom third of game so would be better for me to sheep I am thinking rather than throw a vote away.
If I had my way
I still find kelsi3r intentionally unhelpful beyond me and am good with that vote to proceed.
I dont have a strong/confident read so would prefer to get rid of the trash so to speak - which evenso could include me being in the bottom 1/3 from my point of view at least.
Sucks to say. I would just do that die meatballs huh or whoever has literally 1 post.. hate that shit once in mid or long game. Maybe as well clear out now
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Scott not considering the game state with my vivax read and what it means about my alignment is the second scummiest thing that happened this game.
The first being Scott’s opening posts.
Town circle activate!
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On June 08 2024 08:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:25 marvellosity wrote:
Tomorrow I am going to re look at kelsier (through truffle’s eyes) because I think Trfel is town and I’m curious about the lack of traction he’s getting (I am well aware I am part of that lack of traction!) It's possible the lack of attraction is association with me
Yes it’s possible
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I’m very interested in Scott right now.
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On June 08 2024 08:45 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, I understand what you're saying about sandroba, but that strikes me more as reasons to not townread him than as reasons to scumread him? What am I missing?
yeah i really don't know how to explain it better than i already have? i know feeling lackluster and sheepy when i expect more from him isn't the most compelling argument but he remains the one i feel strongest about. i don't hate a kelsier lynch either
i'm prob gonna have to figure out where this viva push is coming from. i agree that it seemed to suddenly gain traction from quarters where people weren't scumreading him earlier which is making me itchy, though maybe that's me misremembering again
if we default lynch dmb is fine i think
someone asked me about viva...oh oats, that's who it was
the dropping the scumread thing from amz and i didn't hate the early scott callout but i also agree there's not been much interesting besides that. i do agree his wild flailing shadowboxing is more what i expect from him
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amz is az idk where the m came from
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On June 08 2024 08:49 AlphaZero wrote:
Scott not considering the game state with my vivax read and what it means about my alignment is the second scummiest thing that happened this game.
The first being Scott’s opening posts.
Town circle activate!
What fucking Vivax read? Your only posts about Vivax I put in my post that you lol'ed.
Did you post them in Discord instead? Because I've thread your thread again and I don't know what you are talking about.
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On June 08 2024 08:49 AlphaZero wrote:
Scott not considering the game state with my vivax read and what it means about my alignment is the second scummiest thing that happened this game.
The first being Scott’s opening posts.
Town circle activate!
I’m really tired and stoned so it’s taken me ages to parse this. But I was determined to before sleep haha.
And all that to say I agree with you. I think moreso because (as previously mentioned) Vivax had trended down, and so even WITHOUT oats saying anything and whatever else that’s a reasonable thread read.
##vote: Scott
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On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.
Vote:vivax
Is first time you play with vivax?
I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax
first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole
second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me.
If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria
if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria.
For me he looks like Town (atm)
you have any other scum reads?
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mmmeeeh i don't wanna lynch scott tho -_-
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