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On June 08 2024 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
ehhhh nah i'm still not feeling marv. it would be super fun to lynch a scum marv throwing shade at me, but i can't get over that breezy playful tone
Agreed , I don't remember him being that fun as mafia
Marv should self-resolve by day 2 or. At worst 3
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Why can’t everyone be more like oats.
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To be honest, I still don’t get this sand thing.
Maybe I’m blinded because I like sand but I just agree with almost everything he’s saying. I mean in the world sand is mafia, he’d have to have magically had a whole bunch of the same reads for the same reasons and I can’t get behind that theory
I think rsoul looks quite good during my catch up but I don’t understand the sand read for the above reasons. I would lynch her over sand in a 1v1
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On June 08 2024 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
To be honest, I still don’t get this sand thing.
Maybe I’m blinded because I like sand but I just agree with almost everything he’s saying. I mean in the world sand is mafia, he’d have to have magically had a whole bunch of the same reads for the same reasons and I can’t get behind that theory
I think rsoul looks quite good during my catch up but I don’t understand the sand read for the above reasons. I would lynch her over sand in a 1v1
I agree with you 💯 percent on this Marv.
You can join my top town club with oats and Sandro.
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Phew I have put in some work today.
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Tomorrow I am going to re look at kelsier (through truffle’s eyes) because I think Trfel is town and I’m curious about the lack of traction he’s getting (I am well aware I am part of that lack of traction!)
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On June 08 2024 08:25 AlphaZero wrote:
Phew I have put in some work today.
What a legend
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Now I just need to figure out trfel if he joins the circle town could be unstoppable.
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I don’t have too much else to say, but I guess Vivax trended down a bit, rsoul hasn’t moved from null but is now somewhere around there but for different reasons.
I didn’t actually like slams posts but rayn said he was town and I trust his read more than mine. I assume rayn would tell the truth as either alignment unless him and slam were maf together (which I am not proposing)
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On June 08 2024 08:26 AlphaZero wrote:
Now I just need to figure out trfel if he joins the circle town could be unstoppable.
Question for you just for funsies
Do you think Trfel is self aware enough as a mafia (the game) player to know that his posting style this game comes off noticeably different to normal
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I've read the thread but I've had a long day at work as well, so am a bit tired.
I searched my name in Alpha's filter - 20 times at the moment
And if you have been paying attention - keeps calling me scummy.
I search for Vivax -
On June 07 2024 12:12 AlphaZero wrote:
Vivax looks town.
20 hours ago
The rest is quotes from Vivax or others saying his name.
A post an hour ago
Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him
And now he votes for him.
But AZ has been calling me scummy all game so far.
Seems suspicious to me.
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On June 08 2024 07:57 marvellosity wrote:
Also can I just say.
If you all think I’m too smart to make a poor post on rsoul because she hadn’t posted after page 8.
Then you need to be consistent and understand I am also too smart as mafia to make that post.
Because I am now suffering the inevitable conclusion.
I refer back to my list post once more as that’s where I actually stood having read the game. My bad for not contextualising rsouls filter.
Touche
Town and mafia can make this point yet the delivery is just too good
Cannot lymch today
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Who do you want to lynch today Mocsta?
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On June 08 2024 08:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:26 AlphaZero wrote:
Now I just need to figure out trfel if he joins the circle town could be unstoppable. Question for you just for funsies Do you think Trfel is self aware enough as a mafia (the game) player to know that his posting style this game comes off noticeably different to normal
Yea, especially when it’s pointed out.
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On June 08 2024 08:20 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:07 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 08:05 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 07:59 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 07:56 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 07:51 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 07:40 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 07:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 07:37 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well at least i found one true town in rsoultin.
Best read so dar. Based on your well known excellent read of her, as you yourself mentioned?  Also based on rsoultins filter at the time I don’t see how you can disagree with what I said The argument isn't really about rsoultin's filter, it's that rsoultin's last post at the time in question was about halfway down page 8 of the thread. I don't understand what you are expecting her, or anyone for that matter, to say, at that point in the thread when there is so little actual information to work with? Okay. Here it is. To be frank I had no idea where in the thread rsouls last post went to. I just clicked her filter because someone (??) mentioned her and I looked and didn’t see much. If the context of the thread is that she shouldn’t have said anything, I am more than happy to stand corrected. I mean, I assume there was a reason she was in my null pile when I made the list I mean I guess it depends on your standards for post quality by mid page 8. To me, there wasn't a ton worth deeply analyzing, just the scott31337 thing and maybe a small raynpelikoneet thing if you care about that. You misunderstood what I said truffle I don't think I did? But maybe I'm just stupid. Regardless I don't think it's important. I mean maybe me being stupid is important in the negative sense, but that's a bit harder to fix. Regardless I'm happy to let this drop for now and let you do your thing.
On June 08 2024 07:59 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 07:53 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 07:46 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 07:45 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 07:39 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 07:32 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 06:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Oats and Sandro are top town.
Trfel is really worrying me. On the surface is very pro town, but also playing in a clearly different way to his prior games. I don’t really like his scum reads at all. I don’t level as if he is being that proactive in getting kelsier lynched, even though he apparently strongly suspects him.
And I find his reasoning for his scumreads much weaker than his other posts. I agree with a lot of his analysis but not when it comes to finding mafia…
I think his Smurf hunting made more sense logically than his scum reads which bothers me.
I wouldn’t lynch today, but if there is an active mafia hiding it’s this guy.
Scott just looks bad to me, completely forgettable, aside from his question that has already been analysed I couldn’t tell you why exactly. His scum hunting just comes across as manufactured,
Won’t lynch Marv today.
Rso has felt town by vibe.
Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him
Rayn is being Rayn. Pretty much null.
Mocsta: looked better disengaging than when he was trying to do stuff. Don’t know what that means.
Kelsier: anyone with a strong opinion here is sus. Very null.
Rest need to post more or post more meaningful stuff. I guess I dunno what more I can do with Kelsi3r, people aren't super interested in lynching him, it is what it is. I mean I could definitely be wrong. But if he is mafia and gets through this it's not due to my lack of trying. I guess if he is town and doesn't change anything and survives that's also not due to my lack of trying  But you get my point. Is your "won't lynch marvellosity" thing a town read thing or a waiting thing? It’s a “bad idea to try and lynch Marv day one thing” when he is playing the game and seems to be enjoying things. Fair, I understand that view. Not sure if I agree but I at least get it. I would definitely be very sad to lynch him, like I said, he's the funniest player so far. That's a pretty big motivator.
People seem to have strong opinions on sandroba and Vivax and I'm just not seeing it right now. (same with Oatsmaster but that's on me for being bad so I expect this, it doesn't worry me yet) Can anyone post or point me to a reasonable explanation of reading sandroba or Vivax? Sandros catchup posting resonated with me. He seemed to be just comfortable putting things out there. Vivax im not sure anyone should how anyone could call him town right now. He looked ok initially. Recently pretty meh. I agree about Vivax, he feels decidedly meh to me. Can I ask more about sandroba? Are you referring to the posts 2 hours ago, or 4? Because reading over both, I don't actually feel like he is doing much, just kinda asking questions. This isn't bad per se, but it doesn't really give me any reason to townread him? He hasn't had a ton of meaningful thoughts in a while imo. I’m talking about his catchup and entry into the thread. If you don’t think it’s bad what’s the issue. Sandro will look townie if he is town. I don't see a ton wrong with what sandroba has posted tbh, it's more that I think he's capable of more? I was just trying to understand since it felt like a lot of people were having him as a top scumread and I am not seeing that super easily.
On June 08 2024 08:02 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 07:45 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 07:39 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 07:32 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 06:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Oats and Sandro are top town.
Trfel is really worrying me. On the surface is very pro town, but also playing in a clearly different way to his prior games. I don’t really like his scum reads at all. I don’t level as if he is being that proactive in getting kelsier lynched, even though he apparently strongly suspects him.
And I find his reasoning for his scumreads much weaker than his other posts. I agree with a lot of his analysis but not when it comes to finding mafia…
I think his Smurf hunting made more sense logically than his scum reads which bothers me.
I wouldn’t lynch today, but if there is an active mafia hiding it’s this guy.
Scott just looks bad to me, completely forgettable, aside from his question that has already been analysed I couldn’t tell you why exactly. His scum hunting just comes across as manufactured,
Won’t lynch Marv today.
Rso has felt town by vibe.
Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him
Rayn is being Rayn. Pretty much null.
Mocsta: looked better disengaging than when he was trying to do stuff. Don’t know what that means.
Kelsier: anyone with a strong opinion here is sus. Very null.
Rest need to post more or post more meaningful stuff. I guess I dunno what more I can do with Kelsi3r, people aren't super interested in lynching him, it is what it is. I mean I could definitely be wrong. But if he is mafia and gets through this it's not due to my lack of trying. I guess if he is town and doesn't change anything and survives that's also not due to my lack of trying But you get my point. Is your "won't lynch marvellosity" thing a town read thing or a waiting thing? It’s a “bad idea to try and lynch Marv day one thing” when he is playing the game and seems to be enjoying things. Fair, I understand that view. Not sure if I agree but I at least get it. I would definitely be very sad to lynch him, like I said, he's the funniest player so far. That's a pretty big motivator.
People seem to have strong opinions on sandroba and Vivax and I'm just not seeing it right now. (same with Oatsmaster but that's on me for being bad so I expect this, it doesn't worry me yet) Can anyone post or point me to a reasonable explanation of reading sandroba or Vivax? ? Vivax just randomly calling posts town you think is good? Also him bring afraid to post is good? Also him not constantly seeing shadows? What do you mean by seeing shadows? Is that the same as being afraid to post, or something different? Do you not expect Vivax to randomly call some things town if he is town? Bottom point is bad play as mafia attempting to look random and post random unsubstantiated things. You’ve played with vivax before, you know how he gets seeing shadows if he’s town. I guess you're describing Vivax's tinfoily-ness? I mean yeah, posting an unsubstantiated townread isn't the most compelling, but to be honest I thought it was common for people to have little/no explanation for early townreads? Like I don't see anything amazing in Vivax's filter, it's kinda meh imo. I do like that he commented on AlphaZero dropping his scumread on scott31337 (I don't agree that this is what AlphaZero did, but I think it's reasonable for Vivax to think and believe this and I think it shows that he's paying attention, even if imo he got it wrong). I don't really understand how he can townread marvellosity so easily, and imo he could definitely have more quality/content. I'm not seeing much reason to lynch him though, his posting is a little underwhelming but not coming across as mafia motivated to me. By all means do your thing, if you have more specific things I should look at I'm happy to take a look at them and I definitely could be missing stuff. I'm just not seeing it at a glance.
Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:@trfel it felt like a lot of people were having him as a top scumread and I am not seeing that super easily. Imma need you to source this please, who has him as a top scum read currenrly It's just an impression I got, I could absolutely be wrong. Maybe it was just rsoultin being really vocal. Don't really care enough to check.
Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:13 Vivax wrote:
I‘m at work fyi. Can‘t be all over the thread as usual. I‘m also in a really shitty mood but some who pretend to know me can likely figure it out Sorry Vivax, hope you feel better soon 
@marvellosity, I definitely could be wrong, that's just my attempt to understand your perspective. Even if I'm not very good at it I don't see an alternative to trying?Also about Mocsta, are you referring to this? Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 22:53 Mocsta wrote:On June 07 2024 22:50 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 22:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 22:37 Mocsta wrote:On June 07 2024 22:25 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 17:05 Mocsta wrote:
*filter starts*
Hi
On plane about to take off.
I'm surprised by quant of posts and even more so that peoples essence is bringing back such strong memories. Pretty cool.
Have skim read. Trfel stood out to me as sentiment over a few posts felt forced / overly processed%. Not sure if that's his meta though. Certainly not a scum claim. Also felt a little similar with rsoultin. Specifically, please? I retracted later No, you said he improved. So the original posts must remain. What were they? *coughs* Twas reading his filter Nothing comes to mind in the same way which aligns with my retraction to be fair. I suspect it was related to his flow in the early game. I found it disjointed when read as a thread.
Bolded made me smile a lot. And yes I meant those posts
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On June 08 2024 08:29 scott31337 wrote:I've read the thread but I've had a long day at work as well, so am a bit tired. I searched my name in Alpha's filter - 20 times at the moment And if you have been paying attention - keeps calling me scummy. I search for Vivax - 20 hours ago The rest is quotes from Vivax or others saying his name. A post an hour ago Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him And now he votes for him. But AZ has been calling me scummy all game so far. Seems suspicious to me.
Lol
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On June 08 2024 08:33 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 08:26 AlphaZero wrote:
Now I just need to figure out trfel if he joins the circle town could be unstoppable. Question for you just for funsies Do you think Trfel is self aware enough as a mafia (the game) player to know that his posting style this game comes off noticeably different to normal Yea, especially when it’s pointed out.
So if we’re saying he is mafia (hypothetically only for funsies) do you think he’d decide to post in said noticeably different style?
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On June 08 2024 08:33 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:29 scott31337 wrote:I've read the thread but I've had a long day at work as well, so am a bit tired. I searched my name in Alpha's filter - 20 times at the moment And if you have been paying attention - keeps calling me scummy. I search for Vivax - On June 07 2024 12:12 AlphaZero wrote:
Vivax looks town. 20 hours ago The rest is quotes from Vivax or others saying his name. A post an hour ago Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him And now he votes for him. But AZ has been calling me scummy all game so far. Seems suspicious to me. Lol
I knew someone (probably mafia) would makes this argument before I even posted my thoughts on vivax. And I did it anyway. What does it mean??
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can i just say that if sandy turns out to be scum the townies in this game owe me a big apology
if you can point out one thing he said in his catch up someone else hadn't already said...well then i'm misremembering shit for one. maybe the kelsier thing idk eeeeh i don't wanna look back at it though stop making me work -_-
fine fine
also fuck you marv -_- reminding me how often rayn tunneled me when we were both town is not helping my paranoia at all
is he really all buddy buddy these days? he certainly wasn't last time we played. not that it matters, cause he likes to buddy me when he's mafia asdgaga
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On June 08 2024 08:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:33 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 08:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 08:26 AlphaZero wrote:
Now I just need to figure out trfel if he joins the circle town could be unstoppable. Question for you just for funsies Do you think Trfel is self aware enough as a mafia (the game) player to know that his posting style this game comes off noticeably different to normal Yea, especially when it’s pointed out. So if we’re saying he is mafia (hypothetically only for funsies) do you think he’d decide to post in said noticeably different style?
I’m not sure that the style change could be intentional.
So I guess it’s not a decision. My thoughts are his mental health could be better (hope this is true)
Or that he has more confidence cause he has map hacks.
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