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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 08 2024 00:10 GMT
#581
[b]unvote:

Vote:Scott /b]
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 08 2024 00:10 GMT
#582
Not really sure what to say.

I don't know what to think of scott31337, he looks suspicious but I feel like I've mislynched him a million times and I'm not sure if this game is any different I was trying to mess with him to change something and let me get a read on him but it didn't really work. Maybe I should see if the discrepancies in his posts are mafia motivated? I guess that makes sense?

I don't think the early thing about masons/whisperers/whatever had much mafia motivation. It's clumsy, but honestly it strikes me more as clumsy than scummy.

I actually kinda liked scott31337's post on AlphaZero. Not that I agree with it, but I think it's a reasonable perspective for scott31337 to have as town? I don't know why he would do this as mafia, I guess I doubt he'd have the confidence? I could definitely be wrong, but like, scott31337 brought up an original argument. That's pretty neat. Even if it's (imo) a bad argument, I'm still pleasantly surprised

So yeah, I kinda don't want to lynch scott31337. Could absolutely be wrong, it's far from the worst lynch ever, but I don't find the arguments super compelling given the context.
Don't really want to lynch sandroba either unless something changes, either in his play or in my read. His play hasn't been super inspiring or anything imo, but I don't think that makes him mafia. Maybe if we keep waiting and this doesn't change I could start to see it but we haven't even been playing for 24 hours, I don't think it's reasonable to hold him to super high standards at this time. If he did something scummy that'd be different, but a lack of super towny stuff doesn't make him mafia imo.
I guess I'll just wait and hope that either people re-evaluate Kelsi3r or I'm wrong (which is pretty likely tbh, I have no idea how to find mafia on day 1 especially, my reads tend to be more accurate when flipped upside down). So maybe it's a good thing that no one agrees XD
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 08 2024 00:11 GMT
#583
voting kelsi3r, pretty happy with mocsta/truffle town

it's also shitty pre-flip stuff but i won't vote with sandy fuck that shit. also i just like scott so sue me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 08 2024 00:12 GMT
#584
On June 08 2024 09:07 rsoultin wrote:
mmmeeeh i don't wanna lynch scott tho -_-


Then don't unless you are Mafia with DP/AZ

Even if I get mislynched (But I'm a lot better at defending than I was as a newb) it'll give town plenty of info to work with.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2024 00:12 GMT
#585
On June 08 2024 09:10 Trfel wrote:
Not really sure what to say.

I don't know what to think of scott31337, he looks suspicious but I feel like I've mislynched him a million times and I'm not sure if this game is any different I was trying to mess with him to change something and let me get a read on him but it didn't really work. Maybe I should see if the discrepancies in his posts are mafia motivated? I guess that makes sense?

Idon't think the early thing about masons/whisperers/whatever had much mafia motivation. It's clumsy, but honestly it strikes me more as clumsy than scummy.

I actually kinda liked scott31337's post on AlphaZero. Not that I agree with it, but I think it's a reasonable perspective for scott31337 to have as town? I don't know why he would do this as mafia, I guess I doubt he'd have the confidence? I could definitely be wrong, but like, scott31337 brought up an original argument. That's pretty neat. Even if it's (imo) a bad argument, I'm still pleasantly surprised

So yeah, I kinda don't want to lynch scott31337. Could absolutely be wrong, it's far from the worst lynch ever, but I don't find the arguments super compelling given the context.
Don't really want to lynch sandroba either unless something changes, either in his play or in my read. His play hasn't been super inspiring or anything imo, but I don't think that makes him mafia. Maybe if we keep waiting and this doesn't change I could start to see it but we haven't even been playing for 24 hours, I don't think it's reasonable to hold him to super high standards at this time. If he did something scummy that'd be different, but a lack of super towny stuff doesn't make him mafia imo.
I guess I'll just wait and hope that either people re-evaluate Kelsi3r or I'm wrong (which is pretty likely tbh, I have no idea how to find mafia on day 1 especially, my reads tend to be more accurate when flipped upside down). So maybe it's a good thing that no one agrees XD

Or clumsy in a scummy way
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 08 2024 00:15 GMT
#586
or easy lynchbait
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 08 2024 00:16 GMT
#587
On June 08 2024 09:12 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 09:07 rsoultin wrote:
mmmeeeh i don't wanna lynch scott tho -_-


Then don't unless you are Mafia with DP/AZ

Even if I get mislynched (But I'm a lot better at defending than I was as a newb) it'll give town plenty of info to work with.


can you link me an old game where you rolled a mafia role? (not Newbie Student Mafia VIII your filter and game was to small to compare it or get anything about how you play as mafia)
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 08 2024 00:16 GMT
#588
so like, in the world of you and az...viva and scott are both scum

i mean i guess it's possible but such an early buss feels strange?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2024 00:17 GMT
#589
On June 08 2024 09:15 rsoultin wrote:
or easy lynchbait

Rude :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 08 2024 00:18 GMT
#590
On June 08 2024 09:10 AlphaZero wrote:
[b]unvote:

Vote:Scott /b]


why did you change your vote so fast?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 08 2024 00:18 GMT
#591
i mean nothing's easier than policy lynching plus catching someone on a so-called objective inconsistency
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2024 00:18 GMT
#592
On June 08 2024 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
so like, in the world of you and az...viva and scott are both scum

i mean i guess it's possible but such an early buss feels strange?

Vivax may or may not be scum. He can be town. Just because he looks a bit worse than early d1 doesn’t make him maf necessarily. Regardless it’s too weak of a pre~flip association to pay any attention to. And you should know better tbh :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2024 00:20 GMT
#593
On June 08 2024 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
i mean nothing's easier than policy lynching plus catching someone on a so-called objective inconsistency

Policy lynching?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2024 00:20 GMT
#594
And objective inconsistency? What are you actually talking about lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 08 2024 00:20 GMT
#595
On June 08 2024 09:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
so like, in the world of you and az...viva and scott are both scum

i mean i guess it's possible but such an early buss feels strange?

Vivax may or may not be scum. He can be town. Just because he looks a bit worse than early d1 doesn’t make him maf necessarily. Regardless it’s too weak of a pre~flip association to pay any attention to. And you should know better tbh :p


i mean sure but you were ready to lynch him two seconds before az called scott so like...what changed?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 08 2024 00:22 GMT
#596
On June 08 2024 09:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 09:12 scott31337 wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:07 rsoultin wrote:
mmmeeeh i don't wanna lynch scott tho -_-


Then don't unless you are Mafia with DP/AZ

Even if I get mislynched (But I'm a lot better at defending than I was as a newb) it'll give town plenty of info to work with.


can you link me an old game where you rolled a mafia role? (not Newbie Student Mafia VIII your filter and game was to small to compare it or get anything about how you play as mafia)


I'd recommend the database. Remember these were eight plus years ago too.

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database

There's only four (Three if you throw out the one you are talking about)

https://tl.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=474146&user=scott31337&view=all
https://tl.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=498066&user=scott31337&view=all

And this one I remember was weak too (lynched day 1) https://tl.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=485267&user=scott31337&view=all
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 08 2024 00:22 GMT
#597
On June 08 2024 09:20 marvellosity wrote:
And objective inconsistency? What are you actually talking about lol


az's gotcha moment
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2024 00:22 GMT
#598
On June 08 2024 09:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 09:18 marvellosity wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
so like, in the world of you and az...viva and scott are both scum

i mean i guess it's possible but such an early buss feels strange?

Vivax may or may not be scum. He can be town. Just because he looks a bit worse than early d1 doesn’t make him maf necessarily. Regardless it’s too weak of a pre~flip association to pay any attention to. And you should know better tbh :p


i mean sure but you were ready to lynch him two seconds before az called scott so like...what changed?

When was I??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2024 00:23 GMT
#599
On June 08 2024 09:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 09:20 marvellosity wrote:
And objective inconsistency? What are you actually talking about lol


az's gotcha moment

That’s not objective inconsistency. It’s about a distance and lack of congruence with the thread
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 08 2024 00:23 GMT
#600
Yeah those are all one page.. So I don't really have anything to link.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
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