So the game started not even an hour ago and people making here already Townreads. How is this possible. I would never give somebody a townread this early.
And how are we supposed to choose a mayor who should be town so early in the game
On March 04 2024 12:51 die_meatbaby wrote: So the game started not even an hour ago and people making here already Townreads. How is this possible. I would never give somebody a townread this early.
And how are we supposed to choose a mayor who should be town so early in the game
Do you think the townreads are good or bad
bad. Dp is writing a litte strange. When he is Town he usually has a huge confidents of himself and make this clear in the thread as well. Maybe it just surprises me that he didn´t directly offering beeing mayor and trying to get people on his side. Also before making townreads I would wait for more people to join here as the europeans still sleeping
On March 04 2024 12:59 Vivax wrote: I like Jacob shrugging it off that I found him a bit suspicious early, and I tend to read his writing style as scummy I think.
So for now I am at:
Maximum town: Me Townish: DP, JS, iamp Unsure: MZ Very unsure: Trfel Scummy : Oats
MZ is mayor competition and I believe would be an ideal mafia candidate. Can‘t pin much on him though. His focus pn conversing with Trfel is noteworthy.
Trfel seemed like he mistook MZ for me with the promise to vote Palmar. Strikes me as low confidence tone wise.
DP I think is actively looking for mafia already and I felt like I had a congruent thinking moment when it came to Oats.
you got fooled by Dp´s mafia skills in your last game so I hope it doesn´t happen again if you are Maximum town
On March 04 2024 13:05 DarthPunk wrote: DMB what is vivax's alignment?
EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS A SUSPECT RIGHT now. How the hell should i tell after one hour who could be tip top town (for this shit mayor thing) and mafia. He is nothing as player right now. But he was so mad at you for getting fooled by you on mafiascum that it´s just strange how give you this fucking early a townread. the hell i am thinking already of you and Vivax togther. But still to fucking early to make any decision on any aligment. I will take the first day do find a tip top town to vote as mayor because we always get the first lynch wrong anyways but thats how find the mafia later. I just don´t know what will happen if we lose the game because if mafia will fool us that this one person is maximum Town and best option for mayor. What happens if we vote mafia for mayor? we can not just lynch our mayor or can we still? Do you have any game with mayor I can read so I would better understand how importend that role is? Because I think mafia will act and play differnt as usuall on D1 just because of this.
On March 04 2024 12:59 Vivax wrote: I like Jacob shrugging it off that I found him a bit suspicious early, and I tend to read his writing style as scummy I think.
So for now I am at:
Maximum town: Me Townish: DP, JS, iamp Unsure: MZ Very unsure: Trfel Scummy : Oats
MZ is mayor competition and I believe would be an ideal mafia candidate. Can‘t pin much on him though. His focus pn conversing with Trfel is noteworthy.
Trfel seemed like he mistook MZ for me with the promise to vote Palmar. Strikes me as low confidence tone wise.
DP I think is actively looking for mafia already and I felt like I had a congruent thinking moment when it came to Oats.
you got fooled by Dp´s mafia skills in your last game so I hope it doesn´t happen again if you are Maximum town
Why do you talk to vivax like he is town here DMB?
Sorry I will not use smileys again. #staytoxicnosmileys
On March 04 2024 12:59 Vivax wrote: I like Jacob shrugging it off that I found him a bit suspicious early, and I tend to read his writing style as scummy I think.
So for now I am at:
Maximum town: Me Townish: DP, JS, iamp Unsure: MZ Very unsure: Trfel Scummy : Oats
MZ is mayor competition and I believe would be an ideal mafia candidate. Can‘t pin much on him though. His focus pn conversing with Trfel is noteworthy.
Trfel seemed like he mistook MZ for me with the promise to vote Palmar. Strikes me as low confidence tone wise.
DP I think is actively looking for mafia already and I felt like I had a congruent thinking moment when it came to Oats.
you got fooled by Dp´s mafia skills in your last game so I hope it doesn´t happen again if you are Maximum town
Why do you talk to vivax like he is town here DMB?
Sorry I will not use smileys again. #staytoxicnosmileys
No that is not what I mean. Why if you think everyone is suspect do you talk to Vivax about him 'fooled' which implies he is town.
So apparently when i am talking nice to somebody means that I think he is Town. Maybe just calling everbody scum will not helping to find the true aligment. Maybe I just wanted to see his reaction, because usually vivax is my first suspect...
On March 04 2024 13:05 DarthPunk wrote: DMB what is vivax's alignment?
EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS A SUSPECT RIGHT now. How the hell should i tell after one hour who could be tip top town (for this shit mayor thing) and mafia. He is nothing as player right now. But he was so mad at you for getting fooled by you on mafiascum that it´s just strange how give you this fucking early a townread. the hell i am thinking already of you and Vivax togther. But still to fucking early to make any decision on any aligment. I will take the first day do find a tip top town to vote as mayor because we always get the first lynch wrong anyways but thats how find the mafia later. I just don´t know what will happen if we lose the game because if mafia will fool us that this one person is maximum Town and best option for mayor. What happens if we vote mafia for mayor? we can not just lynch our mayor or can we still? Do you have any game with mayor I can read so I would better understand how importend that role is? Because I think mafia will act and play differnt as usuall on D1 just because of this.
Your whining about the setup comes across as insincere. Kind of like your last game. In which you were mafia.
On March 04 2024 12:59 Vivax wrote: I like Jacob shrugging it off that I found him a bit suspicious early, and I tend to read his writing style as scummy I think.
So for now I am at:
Maximum town: Me Townish: DP, JS, iamp Unsure: MZ Very unsure: Trfel Scummy : Oats
MZ is mayor competition and I believe would be an ideal mafia candidate. Can‘t pin much on him though. His focus pn conversing with Trfel is noteworthy.
Trfel seemed like he mistook MZ for me with the promise to vote Palmar. Strikes me as low confidence tone wise.
DP I think is actively looking for mafia already and I felt like I had a congruent thinking moment when it came to Oats.
you got fooled by Dp´s mafia skills in your last game so I hope it doesn´t happen again if you are Maximum town
Why do you talk to vivax like he is town here DMB?
Sorry I will not use smileys again. #staytoxicnosmileys
No that is not what I mean. Why if you think everyone is suspect do you talk to Vivax about him 'fooled' which implies he is town.
i dont understand what your saying
She says she hopes Vivax is not fooled again.
It's weird because she is talking to him like he is town but has vocally argued against anyone being town.
at the end she say's 'if you are super town'' or whatever, but it's just not the response that I would expect from DMB if she is hyper suspicious of everyone as she stated.
something I learned in my first game is calling everbody scum doesn´t help to find scum and more importend Town even when I think everone is a suspect right now. But the only thing what happend is I almost got lynched as Town what is bad for the game because even I am playing bad as Town compared to all of you it´s still not helping my team. So I rather try to be nice as well and see how the people react to this. For example I know Vivax is just posting bullshit when he is mafia. Joking around don´t really take the game serious as if he is Town he just is much more hyped to find scum and really try to find the scum team as fast as possible and try to get people vote on his wagons. So if he is town he would for sure ignore not important stuff for the solution like my post.
So tell me way you think I would give him a townread just because I was not mean to him. I am an asshole but not all the time
On March 04 2024 13:52 CopCake wrote: Lord Trfel, Duchess meatbaby… would you like to join me for tea in this perfectly splendid day?
It would be an honor for me. I bring some biscuits
I am glad!
It shall be a great time for sure my dear. Such a shame Lord Trfel decided to decline the invitation, there was a delicious cake and macaroons baked in his honor.
@trfl How dare you! Who raised such an outrageous generation?
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: hbd Trfel,
I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?
Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.
Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.
Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.
Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?
And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor?
I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.
Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.
Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch.
Wait do you not know that there is only 1 vote for day 1 and that’s for the mayor
TSK TSK TSK
In addition to voting on a day 1 lynch, players will be voting for a Mayor. Prior to the end of day 1, the leading candidates for Mayor should pm me a name of their choosing to be killed alongside the day 1 lynch.
PM are allowed in this game? I was unaware.
No that's the OP quote pm Grack the votes.
Wait so we have electoral secrecy and nobody knows who voted for who when we voting by pm to grack. Usually i like this kind of democracy but not here. I want to see who votes on somebody
On March 04 2024 14:36 JacobStrangelove wrote: That's just for the mayor choosing who they're killing. All other votes are public.
But i want to see that too. Mafia will vote on the same scum person. Risk for having scum major is even higher
what are you talking about
At the some point we will discuss who we elect as mayor and of course there will also be a scum about what Town might choose. Mafia will discuss in the discord who has the best townreads up to that point and most likely has the best chances to be elected mayor. That's 5 votes on a scum person + probably one or two townies who might vote for that person. So the probability that the mayor is not tip top town but mafia is very high. And if the whole thing was public, not all 5 could vote for the same person because it would be too conspicuous
On March 05 2024 02:56 CopCake wrote: I also do not understand the whole vivax is town because he claimed jailkeeper because that is bullshit.
Not because the logic of the whole scenario but because I think he is the type of player to be insane enough as mafia to do something like that.
I have to mention that I have read so many games from Vivax from the last decade. I can't remember a single game where he claimed a PR as Mafia. He only does something like that when he's really blue or at least green. I think he wouldn't do shit like that, which happens often and ends bad for scum, on day 1 as a scum. toooooo fucking risky. First lowkey townread I have so far.
Maybe we should really make him mayor. He would not ever do that so early and risking d1 lynch for that. Would be to insane
On March 05 2024 03:28 Vivax wrote: I'm bothered by rayn's reaction here tbh
I dont know if it is relevant but he was laughing hard in the other room.
that makes him look scum. I loved beeing mafia in the last game because doing random shit like offering my life for HF who claimed blue and provoke other Townies is fun as hell. As Town I take it way more seriously. But maybe thats just me
On March 05 2024 03:49 Vivax wrote: If you vote for uncertainty over certainty you're a dumbass. Period
How am i voting for uncertainty exactly?
Voting yourself is the correct play 100% of the time. It's the others on you that I question the decision making of.
I do not agree with that. I'm town and wouldn't vote myself mayor because I have no idea about the role and would probably be the worst immigrant mayor with a severe language problem. The only thing I would do as mayor is give free beer to any townie who is helpful
On March 05 2024 03:28 Vivax wrote: I'm bothered by rayn's reaction here tbh
I dont know if it is relevant but he was laughing hard in the other room.
that makes him look scum. I loved beeing mafia in the last game because doing random shit like offering my life for HF who claimed blue and provoke other Townies is fun as hell. As Town I take it way more seriously. But maybe thats just me
rayn loves to be more town than mafia.
He has rolled mafia so many times that he is tired of that.
I also prefer more mafia than town unless I get to be mafia three times in a row or so.
This feels like the awkward moment where you need to make up for possibly exposing him as scum.
Vivax, take a break please and come back. Because I think you know this can’t make sense.
You’re just annoyed at the game and people in it and it leads to posts like this.
Don't send him away. That's exactly what makes him Town. The anger at difference of opinion, provocation from players, players being scummy and not interacting properly to questions and Townies just not taking anything seriously. This is something I feel so often and just write here out of ambitious emotions (mostly slightly toxic). That's just townish. It's something that doesn't happen to you as a mafia except maybe right before a lynch. I want to see more like this to be more clear of his aligment
On March 05 2024 02:32 iamperfection wrote: I'm inclined to think vivax has to be town. No scum claims like that. I strongly oppose any effort to make him mayor. He already has shown he willing to throw as town we aren't giving him power.
I’m inclined to agree
I disagree for what it is worth. The guy who gets lynched as blue regulary now claims it to be mayor.
Press x for doubt
He didn't have any real pressure on him though
Does this not strengthen Koshi's point?
No how so.
Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta
On March 05 2024 04:14 sandroba wrote: Last game I read koshi's post and got townie vibes d1 pretty soon. Not so in this game. The aim of his posts doesn't feel pro town here. Hmmmm
I havent posted yet
I hope you become active soon. I know you as a lazy mafia and a very active townie. right now you look scummy to me
On March 05 2024 02:32 iamperfection wrote: I'm inclined to think vivax has to be town. No scum claims like that. I strongly oppose any effort to make him mayor. He already has shown he willing to throw as town we aren't giving him power.
I’m inclined to agree
I disagree for what it is worth. The guy who gets lynched as blue regulary now claims it to be mayor.
Press x for doubt
He didn't have any real pressure on him though
Does this not strengthen Koshi's point?
No how so.
Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta
Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?
We are never 100 % sure of the aligment from somebody especially when it's this early in the game, but we are 100 % sure about the aligment from ourselfs. He is parnoid enough that he rather would claim blue and make sure there is no mafia major (as we have in our city) then trust anybody else. I would understand that one.
On March 05 2024 02:33 marvellosity wrote: [quote] I’m inclined to agree
I disagree for what it is worth. The guy who gets lynched as blue regulary now claims it to be mayor.
Press x for doubt
He didn't have any real pressure on him though
Does this not strengthen Koshi's point?
No how so.
Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta
Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?
Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.
Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
And if he claims blue as scum that would be to insane for his mafia meta. If he claims blue as a Town because he doen´t trust anybody else as he does in RL then it is totally understandable why he claims even if he just town
On March 05 2024 04:06 iamperfection wrote: [quote] He didn't have any real pressure on him though
Does this not strengthen Koshi's point?
No how so.
Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta
Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?
Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.
Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
because you don´t seem so townisch to me
what i seem to you makes no difference since it's vivax we are talking about here.
Yeah but we both have high trust issues so why should he would you instead of himself when he more sure about his aligment then yours. He is for sure no PR but even more sure no scum. As I said to risky. And better claim youself and get elected than voting on somebody else. The claim was unnecessary but it makes him more Town at least for me. IF he is really scum then applaus from me this would be the best mafia move at the beginning of the game that he ever made but I don´t think so. His mafia game sucks and is easy to see (mostly)
On March 05 2024 04:06 iamperfection wrote: [quote] He didn't have any real pressure on him though
Does this not strengthen Koshi's point?
No how so.
Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta
Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?
Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.
Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor.
They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection.
It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain.
I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you....
I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2).
So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough
Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)?
The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv.
you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not.
On March 05 2024 04:19 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta
Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?
Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.
Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor.
They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection.
It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain.
I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you....
I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2).
So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough
Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)?
The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv.
you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not.
that's bullshit you have not seen me mafia aside from last game and i havent rolled mafia in like 1,5 years before that.
She's saying you are too experienced and dangerous as scum to trust you with that on a D1.
that would be another bullshit statement.
Uhhhhh thats scum rayn getting mad because newbie ruins his scum major plan. Already love this game. I didn´t write any bs just my opinion why vivax claims and why I wouldn´t vote you as mayor only for lynch but not on D1 maybe on d2
@copcake my tea is getting cold and I ate already a lot of the hand baked biscuits.I am waiting for you to tell me the real tea about you that I should know. I hope I didn't bake this exquisite pastry for the wrong person.
On March 05 2024 05:14 die_meatbaby wrote: @copcake my tea is getting cold and I ate already a lot of the hand baked biscuits.I am waiting for you to tell me the real tea about you that I should know. I hope I didn't bake this exquisite pastry for the wrong person.
I consider your beloved Duke smart, and also, insane enough to pull the "I am going to claim JK" as mafia. It is a hard, hard thing to do, but he is absolutely capable, specially if he has a good team to back him.
I will invite you to make an exercise, take all the time you need to answer.
Forget that it is vivax who claimed, just that X person claimed JK in this game.
What are the benefits he wins doing this as town and benefits he wins by doing this as mafia?
Do not let your emotions for vivax to blurry this exercise, just a cold head, thinking of scenarios.
Thank you for this honorable invitation. It would be a pleasure to do some relaxation exercises with you. How about puppy and wine yoga?
I understand that a horribole red colerd person could to that to our lovley Town but I could not see Vivax doeing that, because this is not how this duke treats our city. He would not be able to do such a terrible thing in such bad times as these.But you have to understand that even if he hasn't been to the doctor, he still shows a healthy kind of paranoia through this action. That only makes him even more sympathetic to our city
I don't want to blame you or scare you, but what good things you have done for our divine city. I didn't even get a hand-knitted jacket, even though everyone knows how good you are with red wool
On March 05 2024 05:14 die_meatbaby wrote: @copcake my tea is getting cold and I ate already a lot of the hand baked biscuits.I am waiting for you to tell me the real tea about you that I should know. I hope I didn't bake this exquisite pastry for the wrong person.
I consider your beloved Duke smart, and also, insane enough to pull the "I am going to claim JK" as mafia. It is a hard, hard thing to do, but he is absolutely capable, specially if he has a good team to back him.
I will invite you to make an exercise, take all the time you need to answer.
Forget that it is vivax who claimed, just that X person claimed JK in this game.
What are the benefits he wins doing this as town and benefits he wins by doing this as mafia?
Do not let your emotions for vivax to blurry this exercise, just a cold head, thinking of scenarios.
Thank you for this honorable invitation. It would be a pleasure to do some relaxation exercises with you. How about puppy and wine yoga?
I understand that a horribole red colerd person could to that to our lovley Town but I could not see Vivax doeing that, because this is not how this duke treats our city. He would not be able to do such a terrible thing in such bad times as these.But you have to understand that even if he hasn't been to the doctor, he still shows a healthy kind of paranoia through this action. That only makes him even more sympathetic to our city
I don't want to blame you or scare you, but what good things you have done for our divine city. I didn't even get a hand-knitted jacket, even though everyone knows how good you are with red wool
The fact that red looks fantastic of me gives me a better perspective of how other people would look with the same color. As I said before, it suits me, and I love it.
I can think of many scenarios of how a play like that is more beneficial for mafia than town, but that is my perspective (which can be wrong, I am not closed), still what the duke did is quite stupid if town. You cannot deny that.
And I think it is quite a town trait to share all the probabilities, and do not keep them to myself.
You already said it. It is too stupid to that as mafia. We would reread our letter before giving it to the pigeon to show the world our words. Looked too conspicuous to let it see some other trusted members. As a good duke without a guilty conscience you don´t fear looking bad because you know you aren´t even if he claimed wrong he is still a better citizen of this city than most of the other inhabitants
On March 05 2024 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote: OMG so much was not expecting so much loooool
People pretending to have reads that mean anything already are fucking awesome, like I can kinda get a read off that stuff but so many are good at faking it. You guys won't have any meaningful reads until flips happen.
I am, actively, doing jack shit. But I'm also not pushing an agenda or doing anything scummy, so energy put into lynching me is wasted.
So you want a mayor that is in here pretending with you guys. I get it. I hear you. I'm just not doing it. I'm not pretending to have reads that mean anything right now. I'm going to lynch someone who is barely posting, someone who ISN'T ME that is barely posting, and that's what I'll do as mayor. You either like that or you don't. I was hoping Slam would come in here and make you guys like it but you can't count on anyone these days.
I'll talk to you guys about who I think is mafia after I see some stuff happen in the thread that is alignment indicative. I don't think how DMB phrased something or how much Oats posted D1 or any bullshit like that is alignment indicative. I like votes, lynches, who pushes what and why. We don't have that D1. We have activity. So that's what I'm running on bish. You don't like my activity level? Then you agree with my premise and should vote me as mayor rather than someone who could be mafia.
VE I love that you are in the game again but I am sorry I will not vote you as major. Maybe i am scared that you are related to Trump. But I will not lynch you on D1
On March 05 2024 05:56 Rels wrote: I will be gone for the next few hours. die_meatbaby when I'm back this evening I would be ecstatic if I find a list post from you, or even who is your biggest scumread and why
Avec plaisir A bit to early for me to make such lists but for you Sir. I will do it later
On March 05 2024 06:05 CopCake wrote: Btw, this is a post SPECIAL FOR KOSHI
I like how you call out the bro gay whisperer shit out but I think marv is town. Just because how he approached me to think to not go insane with DP.
sorry to interupt the conversation between you and Sir Koshi, but does that mean you drinking tea with marv instead of me? I don´t like that how you betraid me so early in the game. I am sad about such a lose of friend
On March 05 2024 05:56 Rels wrote: I will be gone for the next few hours. die_meatbaby when I'm back this evening I would be ecstatic if I find a list post from you, or even who is your biggest scumread and why
Bruh
yeah same reaction. I don´t like to make that this early in the game. Also every time when I made a list post everbody called me scum. I hate this shit. Then I have to safe myself again from the lynch like it happend in all Towngames I ever played...
On March 05 2024 05:56 Rels wrote: I will be gone for the next few hours. die_meatbaby when I'm back this evening I would be ecstatic if I find a list post from you, or even who is your biggest scumread and why
Rels this is such a hard post to make this early of a game and my opinions will for sure change but for right now this what I think of the players and I know everytime I make a list post people call me scum but as I want to make a favor for a french guy for once in a lifetime here you go…
Good Town Me 🙂 Vivax I know the claim was unnecessary if he has no PR. But I would say for sure never what he make such scummy slightly stupid thing as mafia. Too obvious, too high for his mafia meta. Maybe he is just a Townie but I totally understand why he did such a thing. He has trust issues and paranoia with this things you wouldn´t trust on anybody else to vote as a major. But he knows his alignment and it is for sure safer option to have as a major then anybody else right now! I hope he is blue, if not he is at least Town. And you guys know I would lynch him directly if he looks scummy to me. Did it as Town and as Mafia but right now I don´t see any reason to lynch him because he wouldn´t play like this as mafia
Town Rels he only has a 2 page filter but he asks very good questions and really tries to help Town. At least that's how it looks to me for now. Could change quickly of course
Sandroba has the same energie as in the last game. Safe for now.
Less Town but would have a chance to get Townish Koshi Didn´t like his inactivity at the start of the game. I know him way more active and aggressiv as Town.
DP
Trfl
IAP
Slightly scummy JSL
My Dear CC I am sorry but you disappointed me at the teaparty
JustanotherTownie justanotherscum
Marv No Town Marv behavier found
Mafia Oatsmaster Seems like he just asks a stupid questions and not trying to help us.
On March 05 2024 04:08 iamperfection wrote: [quote] No how so.
Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta
Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?
Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.
Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor.
They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection.
It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain.
I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you....
I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2).
So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough
Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)?
The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv.
you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not.
that's bullshit you have not seen me mafia aside from last game and i havent rolled mafia in like 1,5 years before that.
I actually called him a really good mafia player here and his reaction is definitely not townish. No category Slam illegible god of the game MZ useless (for me rn) VE I'm sorry but I can't judge you, that would be the same as a doctor measuring the heartbeat of a coked-up guy. The result will probably be wrong
Just WTF TotheStars I mean his filter looks worse then the history of my country
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote: Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town.
Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?
I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.
You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:10 Palmar wrote: Good morning, I see we're up to a casual 60+ pages.
Where did you wake up from???
It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about?
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either? Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly
I am at work and I will not have time to post. I will be here few hours before the lynch and than I will make my vote. Hope that there are not spawing over 50 pages
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote: Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town.
Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?
I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.
You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:13 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:10 Palmar wrote: Good morning, I see we're up to a casual 60+ pages.
Where did you wake up from???
It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about?
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either? Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly
Out of all the posts in the past like 12 hours DMB chooses this one to respond to, fence sits and doesn’t apply any of the bolded section to her list post earlier so where does that thinking even come out?
Normaly i have day off, but somebody is sick and I had to come in fast. Didn't have much time to read. Btw list Was requested by rels. No answer from him atm
On March 06 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: I had an early town read on dmb, but she has then turned into more of a single threaded bot that only pops in to talk about the vivax claim. Not seeing as many unprompted inputs from her as I would expect from her as town.
disagree. I just put my priorities in the right order. We only elect a mayor once and that has to be a safe thing for us. The lynch comes second for me, as I know from little but existing experience that the first lynch is almost always wrong, but that (maybe wrong) lynch 1 + Nk 1 helps us to find mafia
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote: Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town.
Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?
I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.
You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:13 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:10 Palmar wrote: Good morning, I see we're up to a casual 60+ pages.
Where did you wake up from???
It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about?
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either? Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly
Out of all the posts in the past like 12 hours DMB chooses this one to respond to, fence sits and doesn’t apply any of the bolded section to her list post earlier so where does that thinking even come out?
Normaly i have day off, but somebody is sick and I had to come in fast. Didn't have much time to read. Btw list Was requested by rels. No answer from him atm
So what have you learned from the bolded section?
I have already used a translator 3 times, which means I have learnt 3 new words in English But for real I think the lynch is goeing in a wrong direction
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote: [quote] Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?
I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.
You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:13 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Where did you wake up from???
It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about?
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either? Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly
Out of all the posts in the past like 12 hours DMB chooses this one to respond to, fence sits and doesn’t apply any of the bolded section to her list post earlier so where does that thinking even come out?
Normaly i have day off, but somebody is sick and I had to come in fast. Didn't have much time to read. Btw list Was requested by rels. No answer from him atm
So what have you learned from the bolded section?
I have already used a translator 3 times, which means I have learnt 3 new words in English But for real I think the lynch is goeing in a wrong direction
so what are you going to do?
I don´t know, but I will not vote for Trfl right now. I don´t see any majorly scum shit at his filter. He plays like in the last game and he was actually doeing amzing as Town last game. So I would not like to loss him if he is Town. Actually I would like to vote on DP because he seems more scummy for me in this game, but that would be a usless vote... Vote: Justanothertownie
On March 06 2024 10:22 Alakaslam wrote: Also I think finding me illegible is becoming a meme.
Rayn can do it (usually) Cop can do it Palmar can do it (though he will never confess because he thinks I mean "immediately") Marv can do it Chezinu finds it among the easiest reads possible
But I get it.
BH never quite could I doubt Oats ever will be able to Iamp legitimately struggles to Vivax can't quite yet (but he understands my posts which is step 1) So I can believe Jealous and VE saying they can't.
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote: [quote] You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either? Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly
Out of all the posts in the past like 12 hours DMB chooses this one to respond to, fence sits and doesn’t apply any of the bolded section to her list post earlier so where does that thinking even come out?
Normaly i have day off, but somebody is sick and I had to come in fast. Didn't have much time to read. Btw list Was requested by rels. No answer from him atm
So what have you learned from the bolded section?
I have already used a translator 3 times, which means I have learnt 3 new words in English But for real I think the lynch is goeing in a wrong direction
so what are you going to do?
I don´t know, but I will not vote for Trfl right now. I don´t see any majorly scum shit at his filter. He plays like in the last game and he was actually doeing amzing as Town last game. So I would not like to loss him if he is Town. Actually I would like to vote on DP because he seems more scummy for me in this game, but that would be a usless vote... Vote: Justanothertownie
So is this just a poe not trfel so jat? Or what is this?
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote: [quote] You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either? Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly
Out of all the posts in the past like 12 hours DMB chooses this one to respond to, fence sits and doesn’t apply any of the bolded section to her list post earlier so where does that thinking even come out?
Normaly i have day off, but somebody is sick and I had to come in fast. Didn't have much time to read. Btw list Was requested by rels. No answer from him atm
So what have you learned from the bolded section?
I have already used a translator 3 times, which means I have learnt 3 new words in English But for real I think the lynch is goeing in a wrong direction
so what are you going to do?
I don´t know, but I will not vote for Trfl right now. I don´t see any majorly scum shit at his filter. He plays like in the last game and he was actually doeing amzing as Town last game. So I would not like to loss him if he is Town. Actually I would like to vote on DP because he seems more scummy for me in this game, but that would be a usless vote... Vote: Justanothertownie
Kind of confused why you think I am scummy ?
your vote changes trigger me hard. You did it more often than usual. But don´t take it personal, after lynch one I will go intense here. I am just used do it that the first lynch is anways wrong but that will help me to find out about your true aligment.
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: Especially when she is joining my wagon
I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: Especially when she is joining my wagon
I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...
Are you serious?
I just saved palmar and got two people I wanted to lynch as the lead two wagons.
wow you safed somebody where we don´t no the aligement either. Palmar would safe his self when he is Town. He did it in the last game as well. Altough thank you for that because atm i also would not like a palmar lynch (maybe later)
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: Especially when she is joining my wagon
I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...
This is a scumslip
word nr.4 today. Thank you love to improve my english
Maybe just tired and annoyed about stupid people here. Either wagons are not a good D1 lynch
On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote ##vote dmb
While he has been on DMB all game unvoting JAT now when it's getting close to possible they may get last minute switch votes for a vote that's def not going to happen would lead slight credence to IF one flips scum the other also being scum tbh.
Uhh thats good as hell. Maybe I was wrong and there are not just stupid people here.
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: Especially when she is joining my wagon
I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...
This is a scumslip
I don't see it.
Reasonable town lynch ie jat is town
Is that a stretch though, could be ESL
What’s the difficulty? She’s callling the lynch town AND shes on it
Can you read? I didn´t say JAT is Town i just said I am not happy with both wagons. Should I waste my vote. Did it in my first game. OPEN YOU EYES AND READ CORRECTLY PLS
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: Especially when she is joining my wagon
I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...
This is a scumslip
I don't see it.
Reasonable town lynch ie jat is town
Is that a stretch though, could be ESL
What’s the difficulty? She’s callling the lynch town AND shes on it
Can you read? I didn´t say JAT is Town i just said I am not happy with both wagons. Should I waste my vote. Did it in my first game. OPEN YOU EYES AND READ CORRECTLY PLS
You literally said that DP is searching for a reasonable town lynch when referring to him talking about his wagon. Lol this is hilarious
yeah he changed his vote so often and tried to push people to his new vote decision. Still did I never say that JAT is Town for me just not my prefering lynch and Trfl will defently not get a vote he seems a little bit townisch to me for now And both wagons pushed by the same person scares me even more. I just hate lynch 1. Usless investment of time because we always get it wrong anyways. Lynch 2 is fucking importend.
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: Especially when she is joining my wagon
I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...
This is a scumslip
I don't see it.
Reasonable town lynch ie jat is town
Is that a stretch though, could be ESL
What’s the difficulty? She’s callling the lynch town AND shes on it
Oh not a word slip a motive slip.
Hmm it's I guess kinda a slip in that sense, I think DP scum doing random stuff trying to vote for a town but I'll also vote for one of the two people DP pushed.
I forget her motivation for voting was it better of the two (bad) options in her opinion or was there something else?
Even if you don’t see the slip, it’s really scummy to be voting on the wagon started by your only scumread and not even mention that for a second
Okey than I just vote on Dp and waste my fucking vote when i still see so less scum shit in trfls filter and actually could safe him
On March 06 2024 11:11 sandroba wrote: To me the biggest tell on dmb last game was incongruent demonstrations of feelings and I'm seeing the same thing.
I have that shit in every game if it makes you happier go on my profile there is a link to all 4 games
On March 06 2024 11:25 Trfel wrote: Yeah sorry, been dealing with some mental health issues, combined with being horrendous on day 1, has made it hard to find mafia or be very effective.
I think raynpelikoneet's play was very solid early on, he feels much more genuine than last game. It feels like he really cares about what he's doing. So I think he is town, same with marvellosity and sandroba by association. I would be very hesitant about suspecting these three. Kinda think DarthPunk is town as well, but I could be wrong.
I don't have any great scumreads unfortunately, or I would have shared them. I still don't like the way iamperfection was playing but I have vague memories of that just being his playstyle so I could be wrong.
Not sure what Vivax is doing with his "reasons" to suspect me. There are reasons I could be mafia, he managed to not find them but is very passionate about it anyway. I don't know if that means anything though.
if your lying about the mental health issues i applaud you.
pls leave people alone about stuff like this. We are still humans in this game and I think nobody from us would lie about such things
On March 06 2024 11:26 Rels wrote: Well looks like I won't be able to join after all. My daughter is still not well and is still not sleeping so I'm staying with her until she's better. Will try to phone read and post if she starts to sleep but no guarantee . Will also switch to JAT since nobody is on the Palmar wagon anymore
On March 06 2024 11:32 Trfel wrote: Why is die_meatbaby mafia? I really didn't think she was suspicious at all, she seemed far more reasonable than last game. Would be very hesitant to suspect her.
May actually be worth taking another look at Vivax because he should know this.
I called dp mafia... I was to lazy to quote and stuff and two sentences wasn´t enough for oats and Dp. I am not happy with both wagons (both pushed by dp) and I still voted one of the two wagons But I shouldn´t because not wasting my vote makes me scummy.
On March 06 2024 11:32 Trfel wrote: Why is die_meatbaby mafia? I really didn't think she was suspicious at all, she seemed far more reasonable than last game. Would be very hesitant to suspect her.
May actually be worth taking another look at Vivax because he should know this.
I called dp mafia... I was to lazy to quote and stuff and two sentences wasn´t enough for oats and Dp. I am not happy with both wagons (both pushed by dp) and I still voted one of the two wagons But I shouldn´t because not wasting my vote makes me scummy.
and i my called people stupid that makes me more scummy
On March 06 2024 11:32 Trfel wrote: Why is die_meatbaby mafia? I really didn't think she was suspicious at all, she seemed far more reasonable than last game. Would be very hesitant to suspect her.
May actually be worth taking another look at Vivax because he should know this.
I called dp mafia... I was to lazy to quote and stuff and two sentences wasn´t enough for oats and Dp. I am not happy with both wagons (both pushed by dp) and I still voted one of the two wagons But I shouldn´t because not wasting my vote makes me scummy.
and i my called people stupid that makes me more scummy
Would like to hear from other people's perspectives but this really really REALLY does not sound like mafia.
Look at Vivax/iamperfection, that's the best I have.
On March 06 2024 11:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This is a rough post but I am going to put my vote on JAT before I read Trfel. My problem isn't with how he responded to the vivax mayor stuff, in fact he does a better job than some people did at articulating his concerns, my problem comes with his "POE scum list" and how easily that rolled into a Trfel vote for self preservation.
I used to love post by post analysis reads but now I hate them, however given the situation this is how I’m rolling with JAT. Two piles, love or hate. Let’s read.
On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote: Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia?
Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that.
How is he getting more power?
He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story.
Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken.
It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot.
The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town.
Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town.
Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town.
Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town.
Wrong.
CC me or go away
Nobody will CC you on day1 if you have fakeclaimed (if we even have a Jailkeeper in that case). Not unless it looks like you are actually being elected and even then I am unsure if that would be the correct play.
This is probably the only decent counter argument to the Vivax mayor thing, even if I disagree with it, he’s at least thinking and not just going REEE bc he hate Vivax’s claim
On March 05 2024 23:12 sandroba wrote: JAT: catches up to the thread but basically only ever comments on Koshi related stuff. A lot of his commentary is meaningless and his questions are not sharp. He apparently wants Koshi for mayor, but this is not a real position since koshi himself wants vivax and it doesn't seem like jat really wants it or thinks it's a realistic thing that will happen. It just fills up space and buddies up to koshi.
On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote: Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board. The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn?
The above post is complacent and disinterested. The reasoning for Vivax possibly being mafia is very shallow analysis and very lazily written, not trying to convince anyone. JAT is solely focused on this mayor thing, he is not very involved and he is making no effort to actually find anyone that is suspicious. He is sticking to easy topics and being lazy in his comments. Even the mayor thing he doesn't care enough about to make any real contributions. He cares about nothing, yet he is still posting here pretending to engage. JAT is mafia.
Is that still all you have on me, sandro? I think I explained all I have done here more than sufficiently. Unlike you, I think the mayor vote is quite important. I post the same thing to you as I did to Rayn - what am I supposed to do about it at this point? The post you quote is not disinterested or complacent. It is rather resignating/annoyed. Of course I do not have very good reasoning for Vivax being mafia - I never even called him mafia in the first place. I just don't agree that the claim makes him confirmed town or even more likely town than Koshi.
I think that your characterization does not fit my play at all.
I think this is a reasonable response to sandroba, I don’t think he’s right with his reasoning but I can see where he’s coming from.
Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.
Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor.
They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection.
It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain.
I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you....
I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2).
So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough
Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)?
The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv.
Who even tracks how much they are in lylo situations. 11/4 really? Is this supposed to convince anybody? In that case: In the last 5 games I have been nkilled 3 times on N1, 1 time on N2 and I was once mafia. Pretty sure my reads were okish during those 4 towngames and on top I was lock town always.
So unless you guys are going to attempt to say I am potential mafia. I am a good pick.
But I think I like vivax for town mayor. Let mafia waste their RB on him. We might get the RB and then have a fully protected blue role. Pretty awesome.
I am not ever going to vote this shitshow mason trash marv/rayn dumbfuck thing. Not ever.
I wonder what mafia thinks of a mayor that is jailkeeper tbh. Somewhat frightening for sure.
If they have a RB they would be quite happy about it I assume.
They are for sure not unhappy. But it HAPPENED. So what is the smartest move now?
Make the shitshow rayn mayor? Or an actual blue role.
Do you want our bluerole shot on N?
Tbh I'd rather see Vivax die in the night than being mayor. At least if I am convinced of a good candidate.
out of spite? Vivax is a very capable town player.
Not out of spite. But he will not be calm/collected/respected enough to be a helpful presence I fear. Even if we believe the claim.
On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote: Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia?
The arrogance of the mason buddies knows no limit. Better not question them and just obey.
Their disdain for the common man is indeed outrageous. How dare they treat us this way.
Weird to even sarcastically agree with this after you already said you liked their town circle
On March 06 2024 02:36 justanothertownie wrote: Would have to PoE at this point. Probably someone in this pool:
Trfel Jealous MZ JS Hapa TTS VE Slam
Would have to narrow it down somehow.
Not meant as an OMGUS here but this is a super easy post for scum to make since he pretty much called out the lukers and slam. Sandroba actually calls this oout
On March 06 2024 12:12 CopCake wrote: In before, cake why were you so sure Tfrel was town? Only mafia can be like that 🧟♀️
I wasnt sure, but I stated why Tfrel is a good player AND it was probably his real birthday today, we saw a birthday cake in his username and he said he was unaware, so if he id mia maybe it is because of the celebration.
You wasted your vote, so you can't be mad if you are town.
but I should have wasted my vote do not look scummy because I didn´t like either wagons???
On March 06 2024 12:08 die_meatbaby wrote: thats it dp is next lynch
I'd want an updated read list from you, and from @DarthPunk, before I'd ever consider it TBH. I feel like I read him and a few others as basically super-town, like a situation where if one of them is mafia then they all have to be mafia, which just does not seem plausible from some of the most active and productive players here. By comparing your list and his, I'd be able to evaluate my own read on the situation and figure out whether your worldview makes sense to me or whether his does, and then decide accordingly.
But as of now, I don't see myself voting for a DP lynch.
I will post a list when the night is over if it´s okey. I need time to reread the game and def. sleep
On March 06 2024 12:12 CopCake wrote: In before, cake why were you so sure Tfrel was town? Only mafia can be like that 🧟♀️
I wasnt sure, but I stated why Tfrel is a good player AND it was probably his real birthday today, we saw a birthday cake in his username and he said he was unaware, so if he id mia maybe it is because of the celebration.
You wasted your vote, so you can't be mad if you are town.
but I should have wasted my vote do not look scummy because I didn´t like either wagons???
Ohh looks like you don´t want to answer that. Scared that the scumflip of you is obvious now?
So it´s scummy that she wasted her vote (in my opinion it is a bit scummy) But it is also scummy for you that I didn´t waste my vote and tried to vote one of wagons I would rather have lynched even I didn´t want to lynch both... What the hell is wrong with you. Either of your aligment the play is bad
On March 06 2024 12:12 CopCake wrote: In before, cake why were you so sure Tfrel was town? Only mafia can be like that 🧟♀️
I wasnt sure, but I stated why Tfrel is a good player AND it was probably his real birthday today, we saw a birthday cake in his username and he said he was unaware, so if he id mia maybe it is because of the celebration.
You wasted your vote, so you can't be mad if you are town.
but I should have wasted my vote do not look scummy because I didn´t like either wagons???
Ohh looks like you don´t want to answer that. Scared that the scumflip of you is obvious now?
Sorry I didn't realise that was a question you wanted an answer to.
I wanted you to post a reads list and spew yourself town like last time you were up for a lynch day 1.
you didn't do that. I don't care about the vote thing, that was oats' read and I didn't really see it in the same way.
you get it on the next lynch. As I said lynch 1 is always goeing wrong so I am not as intrested in it as I should
On March 06 2024 12:12 CopCake wrote: In before, cake why were you so sure Tfrel was town? Only mafia can be like that 🧟♀️
I wasnt sure, but I stated why Tfrel is a good player AND it was probably his real birthday today, we saw a birthday cake in his username and he said he was unaware, so if he id mia maybe it is because of the celebration.
You wasted your vote, so you can't be mad if you are town.
but I should have wasted my vote do not look scummy because I didn´t like either wagons???
Ohh looks like you don´t want to answer that. Scared that the scumflip of you is obvious now?
Sorry I didn't realise that was a question you wanted an answer to.
I wanted you to post a reads list and spew yourself town like last time you were up for a lynch day 1.
you didn't do that. I don't care about the vote thing, that was oats' read and I didn't really see it in the same way.
you get it on the next lynch. As I said lynch 1 is always goeing wrong so I am not as intrested in it as I should
And you will get a big as fucking list why we should lynch you
On March 06 2024 12:28 die_meatbaby wrote: So it´s scummy that she wasted her vote (in my opinion it is a bit scummy) But it is also scummy for you that I didn´t waste my vote and tried to vote one of wagons I would rather have lynched even I didn´t want to lynch both... What the hell is wrong with you. Either of your aligment the play is bad
I was voting for you so that I could determine your alignment that's it.
You know how I play as Town and usuallly you play smart so you should be aware of my aligment aready as slam is. But maybe you are not as smart as I thougt. You just was helping oatsmaster, who is a big scumread in my list btw
On March 06 2024 12:28 die_meatbaby wrote: So it´s scummy that she wasted her vote (in my opinion it is a bit scummy) But it is also scummy for you that I didn´t waste my vote and tried to vote one of wagons I would rather have lynched even I didn´t want to lynch both... What the hell is wrong with you. Either of your aligment the play is bad
I was voting for you so that I could determine your alignment that's it.
You know how I play as Town and usuallly you play smart so you should be aware of my aligment aready as slam is. But maybe you are not as smart as I thougt. You just was helping oatsmaster, who is a big scumread in my list btw
Oh now I’m a scumread? Lol you can’t keep your story straight
On March 05 2024 05:56 Rels wrote: I will be gone for the next few hours. die_meatbaby when I'm back this evening I would be ecstatic if I find a list post from you, or even who is your biggest scumread and why
Rels this is such a hard post to make this early of a game and my opinions will for sure change but for right now this what I think of the players and I know everytime I make a list post people call me scum but as I want to make a favor for a french guy for once in a lifetime here you go…
Good Town Me 🙂 Vivax I know the claim was unnecessary if he has no PR. But I would say for sure never what he make such scummy slightly stupid thing as mafia. Too obvious, too high for his mafia meta. Maybe he is just a Townie but I totally understand why he did such a thing. He has trust issues and paranoia with this things you wouldn´t trust on anybody else to vote as a major. But he knows his alignment and it is for sure safer option to have as a major then anybody else right now! I hope he is blue, if not he is at least Town. And you guys know I would lynch him directly if he looks scummy to me. Did it as Town and as Mafia but right now I don´t see any reason to lynch him because he wouldn´t play like this as mafia
Town Rels he only has a 2 page filter but he asks very good questions and really tries to help Town. At least that's how it looks to me for now. Could change quickly of course
Sandroba has the same energie as in the last game. Safe for now.
Less Town but would have a chance to get Townish Koshi Didn´t like his inactivity at the start of the game. I know him way more active and aggressiv as Town.
DP
Trfl
IAP
Slightly scummy JSL
My Dear CC I am sorry but you disappointed me at the teaparty
JustanotherTownie justanotherscum
Marv No Town Marv behavier found
Mafia Oatsmaster Seems like he just asks a stupid questions and not trying to help us.
On March 05 2024 04:10 Alakaslam wrote: [quote] Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta
Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?
Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.
Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor.
They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection.
It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain.
I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you....
I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2).
So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough
Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)?
The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv.
you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not.
that's bullshit you have not seen me mafia aside from last game and i havent rolled mafia in like 1,5 years before that.
I actually called him a really good mafia player here and his reaction is definitely not townish. No category Slam illegible god of the game MZ useless (for me rn) VE I'm sorry but I can't judge you, that would be the same as a doctor measuring the heartbeat of a coked-up guy. The result will probably be wrong
Just WTF TotheStars I mean his filter looks worse then the history of my country
On March 06 2024 12:28 die_meatbaby wrote: So it´s scummy that she wasted her vote (in my opinion it is a bit scummy) But it is also scummy for you that I didn´t waste my vote and tried to vote one of wagons I would rather have lynched even I didn´t want to lynch both... What the hell is wrong with you. Either of your aligment the play is bad
I was voting for you so that I could determine your alignment that's it.
You know how I play as Town and usuallly you play smart so you should be aware of my aligment aready as slam is. But maybe you are not as smart as I thougt. You just was helping oatsmaster, who is a big scumread in my list btw
Oh now I’m a scumread? Lol you can’t keep your story straight
already called you scum in my list post way before the voting shit started. The hell you gonna annoy me more i am fucking gonna get mad here
On March 06 2024 12:39 die_meatbaby wrote: @dp Regardless of you aligment you play is atrocious here
This is giving me scum DMB vibes not gonna lie.
Like the fake outrage and tunnelling.
Okay as someone who thinks you're both town DMB can you try and un tunnel for a moment. We know the lynch day 1 is unlikely to be mafia, so we can't blame people for getting it wrong with your own words. Can you try and un tunnel for a moment step back assume DP is town and see if that changes your opinion then after half an hour of assuming that go back to assuming he's mafia and see if that changes your opinion again.
Just as a thought experiment.
Of couse i can untunnel dp and fuck this easter oats bunny until christmas!!!! This man is obv doeing more shit then me here and nobdy see it
On March 06 2024 12:39 die_meatbaby wrote: @dp Regardless of you aligment you play is atrocious here
This is giving me scum DMB vibes not gonna lie.
Like the fake outrage and tunnelling.
Okay as someone who thinks you're both town DMB can you try and un tunnel for a moment. We know the lynch day 1 is unlikely to be mafia, so we can't blame people for getting it wrong with your own words. Can you try and un tunnel for a moment step back assume DP is town and see if that changes your opinion then after half an hour of assuming that go back to assuming he's mafia and see if that changes your opinion again.
Just as a thought experiment.
Of couse i can untunnel dp and fuck this easter oats bunny until christmas!!!! This man is obv doeing more shit then me here and nobdy see it
I am finish with work. Have to catch up and gonna explain later about my scum thoughts. i am just not sure if I really should do that at the nightphase
On March 07 2024 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm okay he actually went to read dmb's filter. i retract my analysis and await for Jacob to answer.
Tbh You'll have to bring up which post exactly is the DMB Scum slip post again.
It's probably because I'm a highly empathetic person tbh I try to get in people's heads and understand where they're coming from from what I've seen of DMB it seems in line with their ESL style so it didn't phase me.
(I say not remembering exactly which post they slipped in)
Koshi on the other hand strikes me as someone who wouldn't phrase things "Incorrectly" as town without first clarifying he was doing a "In this senario" style post.
Where as people with higher empathy (generally) women and particualy ESL speakers who have to try and get in people's thoughts constantly, would. Along with the slight barrier with communicating being in someones's head. If that makes sense.
On March 07 2024 04:41 marvellosity wrote:
On March 07 2024 04:39 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 04:36 marvellosity wrote: POIDH
Rels is also cute
I feel like we need a girls chat
OMG totally should all make a list of the hottest guys it'll be fun.
On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: Especially when she is joining my wagon
I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...
Here was the post Jacob. Literally has nothing to do with empathy or whatever
Ahh no I still don't think it's a scum slip.
See here
"I don´t really saw you making a wagon."
From my perspective you aren't making a case
"It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever."
You're just saying they look scummy and pushing people to vote for them. *This is where the empathy kicks in, the implication here being that DP is mafia for doing this.
"Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia"
You're not looking for mafia you are mafia.
"here just for a reasonable town lynch"
As mafia you're just looking for a town lynch
"where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town..."
Where as Mafia you have safety from a flip.
This is directly different from Koshi's post where it's litterally. "Oh yo when you flip town this will be helpful but it's not right now"
Thank you for translating my primary school english skills to actuall english
like the last one. Always think a step a head. I rather lynch someone where I can do something with knowing which side he was regardless of his aligment
First of all I have to point out that this clearly a reason why I am def. not mafia. I don't care what mafia meta shit you expect from me, but I wouldn't voluntarily engage in a dp discussion if I didn't have to. This guy is worse than Jehovah's Witnesses who I usually slam the door on. I would never do that to myself as a mafia. I don't have the nerve for that and not enough alcohol for that at home. Actually I hate that I see that in DP and have to deal with that shit on my own.
Second I have to say sorry to everyone who have already bleeding eyes, because of my non-existent english grammer knowledge.
On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote: Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town.
Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?
I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.
You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
Why would I not want to be mayor? What would that mean for my alignment if it was true?
This is the first one I didn´t like. I can not know it for sure but there is no way that a DP is not trying to get mayor. Like I know how you can put people under pressure with your ambition to help Town. If you are Town you won't get lynched anyway but you almost always die because of nk. That would help you so much as a Town. But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.
On March 04 2024 12:55 Trfel wrote: Also, my apologies, I keep mixing up DarthPunk's and Vivax's posts. So I'm sorry for using the wrong name.
DarthPunk, your post on Oatsmaster makes more sense, I find it interesting. I also would think that most/all players would be much more "tame" tonally early on, since there is less to argue about and people are less invested. Wouldn't you agree?
Or actually, am I misreading your post? What do you mean exactly by sharpness?
Like he is not as engaged with the game, in the last game he was super quick to grasp what was going on and would correct others on the game state for example.
Here he doesn't know how the game works, which is fine, but then he like doubles down on it and trolls about grack editing the op.
Just seems less connected with the game in that passage.
His recent posts look better though.
You didn´t call him scum but already pointed it out that he play differnt. thats maybe not so Townisch. (after 1 hour the game has started) Thats even for you early as fuck but thats how you start es mafia. Indirect slight manipulation to the townies who are not there yet and that they keep in mind ahh there was something with Trfl. If you have to reread 20-30 pages (like the Europeans who only arrive 5 hours later), the beginning and the end are the most memorable. You don't have to have studied psychology to see something like that.
On March 04 2024 14:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's take back that Vivax read. Town read on DP at this point is absolutely rubbish.
I am never getting town read again after last game am I?
Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not. Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.
On March 04 2024 15:33 CopCake wrote: Why are you so obsessed with me?
I want to know your alignment.
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up. Why he didn´t do that do players like Koshi, marv or rayn. They wouldn´t fear Dp. Cake maybe would.
On March 05 2024 06:54 DarthPunk wrote: I think Koshi is super townie here.
Also I am going to unvote cake.
##unvote
He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.
On March 05 2024 07:30 DarthPunk wrote: ##vote: Raynpelikoneet
On March 05 2024 07:37 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote
No reason for that ecept to change so you look like usual but 7 min no fucking normal reason for that. no real explanation why vote and why unvote
The rest of his game is basiclly just waiting until somebody is is pointing out Trfl is scummy and JAT is scummy and then he pushed both wagons just so we will basically lynch Town. Oats saying i am scummy. Dp jumps on that... Not really making his own thoughts of somebodys aligment.
On February 28 2024 11:37 DarthPunk wrote: No one lynch ve for at least two days
Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town
On March 07 2024 10:13 DarthPunk wrote: DMB what is your read on cake?
So thats you answer I have to rethink my hole list after the lynch happend and have to filter a few more people as well. If you really wan´t an answer to that. I am not fucking sure what the actuell fuck she is. there is a possibilty that she is mafia but also that she is town. I want to filter here old games a bit more for that.
On March 07 2024 10:21 DarthPunk wrote: As for the mayor stuff, I would never 'run' for mayor unless I got two votes. I find the whole thing tacky honestly.
I don't tend to die early that often, because people always call me scummy as either alignment cause my play is balanced and I don't really have meta tells.
It's odd to me that both you and cake got hung up on me not running for mayor, having never played in a game with me as mayor, so therefore the assumption that I would run for mayor and not running is scummy is just weird.
Like why is marv not scummy for not wanting to run for mayor for example. Why have you not tried to find a game in which I ran or mayor.
I like to move my vote around to pressure people, the vote on rayn was my way of telling him to fuck off basically. That should be obvious.
On March 04 2024 13:05 DarthPunk wrote: DMB what is vivax's alignment?
EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS A SUSPECT RIGHT now. How the hell should i tell after one hour who could be tip top town (for this shit mayor thing) and mafia. He is nothing as player right now. But he was so mad at you for getting fooled by you on mafiascum that it´s just strange how give you this fucking early a townread. the hell i am thinking already of you and Vivax togther. But still to fucking early to make any decision on any aligment. I will take the first day do find a tip top town to vote as mayor because we always get the first lynch wrong anyways but thats how find the mafia later. I just don´t know what will happen if we lose the game because if mafia will fool us that this one person is maximum Town and best option for mayor. What happens if we vote mafia for mayor? we can not just lynch our mayor or can we still? Do you have any game with mayor I can read so I would better understand how importend that role is? Because I think mafia will act and play differnt as usuall on D1 just because of this.
I don't think I have ever played a game with a Mayor, I usually avoided games with mechanics like that because it distracts from the 'purity' of the game play.
If you have a game with mayor where you played then pls give me a link
Marv is not like you. Town Marv don´t need the attantion and saftey for nk like you do.
On March 07 2024 10:13 DarthPunk wrote: DMB what is your read on cake?
So thats you answer I have to rethink my hole list after the lynch happend and have to filter a few more people as well. If you really wan´t an answer to that. I am not fucking sure what the actuell fuck she is. there is a possibilty that she is mafia but also that she is town. I want to filter here old games a bit more for that.
On March 07 2024 10:21 DarthPunk wrote: As for the mayor stuff, I would never 'run' for mayor unless I got two votes. I find the whole thing tacky honestly.
I don't tend to die early that often, because people always call me scummy as either alignment cause my play is balanced and I don't really have meta tells.
It's odd to me that both you and cake got hung up on me not running for mayor, having never played in a game with me as mayor, so therefore the assumption that I would run for mayor and not running is scummy is just weird.
Like why is marv not scummy for not wanting to run for mayor for example. Why have you not tried to find a game in which I ran or mayor.
I like to move my vote around to pressure people, the vote on rayn was my way of telling him to fuck off basically. That should be obvious.
Hmm idk there's a lot of you dying night one in your recent town games. Although a fair few of you surviving too. Not quite 50/50 but a high enough percentage to debate that.
I died night one 1 time in four games 3 times I went to endgame or close enough.
Persona 4 Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 0
Witchcraft Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
Avogadros Number Mini Mafia Town Named VT Killed Night 1
Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4
TL Endures Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 Quarterly Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Winter Warfare Mafia Town Doctor Killed night 1
Taking out the games where you were mafia or neutral and going by recent we get night 0 night 1 night 1 44 survive n1
On March 07 2024 10:35 JacobStrangelove wrote: Ahh aight. well lets move past this it's pointless anyway and not productive (as the person who brought it up)
Thanks anyway for your short help. Dp is just really exhausting for me and discussing with the priest alone is just too nerve-wracking for me in the long run. But it's my biggest scum read at the moment and I have to try anyway and hopefully other players will see the same thing
On March 07 2024 10:40 DarthPunk wrote: Also Do you have any other scum reads dmb?
do you have any other scum reads should i question you eveytime you post something and annoy you like an 5 year old? Do you want this? maybe I could also just write qestions instead of solving the game or at least trying on my own and manipulate the others?
On March 07 2024 10:35 JacobStrangelove wrote: Ahh aight. well lets move past this it's pointless anyway and not productive (as the person who brought it up)
Thanks anyway for your short help. Dp is just really exhausting for me and discussing with the priest alone is just too nerve-wracking for me in the long run. But it's my biggest scum read at the moment and I have to try anyway and hopefully other players will see the same thing
Why am I exhausting when we have barely interacted?
Because I know what shit I have to expect when I call you scum
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not. Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.
Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment:
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.
I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI.
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.
If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here?
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town
Please clarify your logic here, too.
That does not mean that this people are Town for me. It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear.
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?
Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!! As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head.
And the Ve post is good He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early. Compassion would be the best description
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not. Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.
Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment:
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.
I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI.
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.
If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here?
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town
Please clarify your logic here, too.
I could also see a scum slam claiming for blue. I would believe if slam is scum he would do something like that it is just not in vivax meta. He is not doeing that. To much fear. To much paranoir for that shit as mafia
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.
So does that mean that all of the following have to be town? Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1)
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not. Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.
Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment:
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.
I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI.
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.
If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here?
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town
Please clarify your logic here, too.
I could also see a scum slam claiming for blue. I would believe if slam is scum he would do something like that it is just not in vivax meta. He is not doeing that. To much fear. To much paranoir for that shit as mafia
And thats not a read on slam. i am still unsure of his aligment
On March 07 2024 10:53 JacobStrangelove wrote: No I get why not lynching VE early I think everyone gets that, why do you then later say to lynch town VE later?
I don´t need do quote Ve or do I? His hole filter looks scummy, but to be fear he always do
On March 07 2024 10:53 JacobStrangelove wrote: No I get why not lynching VE early I think everyone gets that, why do you then later say to lynch town VE later?
I don´t need do quote Ve or do I? His hole filter looks scummy, but to be fear he always do
Okay let me break it down, You said don't lynch VE early.
On March 07 2024 10:53 JacobStrangelove wrote: No I get why not lynching VE early I think everyone gets that, why do you then later say to lynch town VE later?
I don´t need do quote Ve or do I? His hole filter looks scummy, but to be fear he always do
Okay let me break it down, You said don't lynch VE early.
This makes sense.
you then say lynch TOWN VE later.
??? why would we lynch town ve later?
Lynching SCUM VE would make sense.
sorry mistake happens.
I looked back at my post and I said
Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town
Lynch Ve (without any call on his aligment) because thats a vote for active Town
That was his slogan for mayjor A vote for VE is a vote for active Town....
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.
So does that mean that all of the following have to be town? Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1)
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not. Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.
Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment:
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.
I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI.
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.
If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here?
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town
Please clarify your logic here, too.
That does not mean that this people are Town for me. It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear.
On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote: What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?
Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!! As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head.
This I am having a much harder time following.
If I understand correctly you say that you wouldn't argue with DP regardless of your alignment, then you say you would not do it as mafia, and then you say you would do it as town?
Perhaps this will be easier, allow me to rephrase:
In this specific game, what can you point to as being reasons for why you are town by the 16 hour mark?
I'm just struggling to understand what your ideal response from DP would be here. If someone put me on the spot like that, frankly I'd just be like:
On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote: And the Ve post is good He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early. Compassion would be the best description
The way you responded to it is "let them play, then lynch them because they are an active townie," which doesn't make much sense to me as "compassion"? As Jacob said above, that almost sounds like a scumslip, but I am sure I must be misunderstanding something or you misspoke.
Starting a discussion with Dp with my English, his ambition and his never-ending questions get on my nerves. I would never voluntarily start a discussion with him if I didn't have to and the only reason I do it is because he is my main scum read. Being scum was really fun for me and that would take the fun out of it ergo I can not be scum
Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax
On March 07 2024 11:03 JacobStrangelove wrote: Hmmmmm in your opinion Jealous.
Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you)
I think that both are NAI. I wouldn't even call Koshi's "mistake" that. As someone else told you, I consider "if" and "when" to almost colloquially interchangeable in that context.
DMB's mistake reads as far more damning to me but there are mitigating factors and I think that even some as seemingly erratic as them wouldn't have brought it up just to slip up like that, IMO.
I'm more concerned about the fact that most of what they wrote that wasn't a mistake felt pretty weak to me. This is their best case on their strongest scum read, and now they are too lazy to stick around, because "I don't wanna be town I wanna be mafia"? That's hella weak IMO.
I can see a genuine town doing that, I guess, kinda like how we have people who didn't vote and aren't posting for various reasons. However, I also see it as sufficient reason to keep them on my lynch list, because mafia isn't precluded from claiming laziness after flailing under some light pressure.
I put myself under pressure to start that shit with dp. I know i couldn´t handle that as well as I should so why should I do that as mafia? I knew he gonna give me a lot of pressure more then all the other players would, so again why should I start that and not just take someone easyer do try do lynch and go more with the crowd thoughts. Why even start with the master? I would not be that stupid as mafia
On March 07 2024 12:20 JacobStrangelove wrote: Okay for now this means DMB looks better until we get a result from Oats.
thats nice but pls can somebody actually explain to me why we have 2 kills. I know from games before that it happens sometimes but then there is standing vigialinte killed xxx on the second kill. So why do we have 2 kills?
Slam gave up D1. Rels is too busy. Oats did his best but can‘t contain all that info leaking out of dmb in the thread and wants to kill her. Slam told him not to and is avenging dmb by fakeclaiming cop to fake a redcheck on his teammate.
Marv is in shambles and just wants to spend a bit of time with Palmar.
Your fantasy is huge. Why should i vote you and try do convince other people to vote you and make it clear why you claim is a solid prove that you are town or maybe for real jk. Why should I not jump on slam claim and vote slam for mayjor???
Slam gave up D1. Rels is too busy. Oats did his best but can‘t contain all that info leaking out of dmb in the thread and wants to kill her. Slam told him not to and is avenging dmb by fakeclaiming cop to fake a redcheck on his teammate.
Marv is in shambles and just wants to spend a bit of time with Palmar.
New theory:
The mafia is Vivax, Koshi, Slam, JSL, and DP
They go max try-hard master mafia player mode to make themselves appear town and elect Vivax as mayor. Then they claim as many roles as they feel they can get away with knowing that there are so many roles available that they might just get away with a couple of them and thus look even more town. Then they guide us to mislynches, "reveal" townies like Oats as scum, and eventually get the most insane mafia victory of all time, making town look like a bunch of idiots. Their names are engraved on a golden plaque and the TL Mafia section is closed down. JAT and CC get canonized as saints.
/s
when this is going to be real i will throw my laptop out of the window and then vivax as well
On March 07 2024 12:00 DarthPunk wrote: Darthpunk's last will and testament.
Basically I have been trying to sort people since the flips and my reads have been changing a bit. but i'll post a brief summary here as guidance and reads.
And also so that i can prevent what I think are some of the biggest potential errors moving forward.
Do not lynch tier:
Palmar: He has looked really town since he started playing in the second part of day 1, in addition to my original reasons for not wanting him to be lynched (mindmeld with sandro, emotional congruence, effort to post reads when all was looking doomed) I think he has continued to look good, I find myself agreeing with his perspectives, I see hints of trolling, I think him and marv are vibing.
The interaction with cake's shit takes was really townie to me.
IT IS IMPORTANT YOU DON"T LYNCH PALMAR- can't stress this enough, no idea why people are getting stuck on small shit that doesn't matter, for example, rayn if you are town, it is well known that palmar doesn't do associative reads. The whole mason shit is a useless direction. This is probably the biggest throw for town imo.
Sandro
Is just getting down to business scumhunting and sorting. I think he is the best player to sheep this game if you are lost.
Oatsmaster
His play this game reminds me of his play in the last game where he was town, he is being smart, pushing in good directions and generally looks super town to me.
Vivax
Been discussed to death, he is the town JK in my opinion.
Perfection
Looked town all game pretty much, some of his takes I think are wrong, I think he looked really town around the lynch.
Also his scum play was terribad last time so I don't think this is that.
Probably town tier
Koshi
I was debating putting him in the tier above, because he has looked really townie all game, and dramatically different to his mafia game, which was really lackluster.
I don't think he pushes marv and rayn in the way he did as mafia.
There are a couple of things that give me pause to him being 'lock' town, first of all is a post where he is aggressively pushing rayn and then kind of completely reverses
On March 05 2024 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2024 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Thankfully i can play the game with marv, it's much more enjoyable than this thread.
I admit I came in too strong. But rereading it, it was too strong but luckily not over the top. But it is fair you got annoyed.
Seeing my case and my post you must understand why I can't let you be Mayor right? It's just not enough to earn it. Vivax did you dirty by claiming but there should not be a competition about the Mayor today. Can you vote vivax? You are 99.98% on him.
I am interested in your reads on JAT and Rels. Just for my sake. Because I will not be able to read them today.
I think it makes it clear the aggression was at least somewhat ingenuine.
I still think he is town but yeah not as confident as I was, also don't like the casually mentioning me as a possible mafia candidate after it seemed like I was lock town all game, but maybe that was NK wifom. :D
I am waiting for a 'smart' koshi moment and push which I haven't seen yet.
Rayn
Honestly this was a hard one for me to sort, there are times when i thought he was town and other times where I thought he was mafia.
I still don't really understand the way he has been interacting with me this game, it felt 'different' than normal. I thought it made him mafia, but currently I am putting it down to the fact he just thinks I am bad.
I think his best moments came this night when he went into 'solver mode' with JAT. and I think he had a really good push on cake, and subsequent ideas on DMB which I think are likely correct.
So town, the palmar/rayn shit started looking very TvT to me too. so there is that.
I don't think he is as correct as he assumes (like every game) but town.
Slam
Un CC'd cop (fuck you VE ) also looked town around the end of day chaos.
Marv
Has been playing a solid game so far, in the back of my mind I always think he is mafia for engagement tells, but when I was wrong last game I decided to shelve that as old meta. I think he is mafia he will slip up later, It's kind of weird for town!marv to not call me mafia but i don't really think he is mafia either. Biggest town tell for him I think is his penchant for defending weaker scummy players like copcake.
Also the shit with trfel, where he was really sad about reading the lynch, and the town read on hapa, both those pinged me as genuine and townie.
Possible mafia/possible town
Rels:
He has looked logical when he posts, but his wasted vote and push on palmar was a big red flag where it was useless and he wasn't really trying that hard to take thread control and change the lynch.
lack of investment could be explained by IRL matters, but I also think Rels could be mafia.
Also I remember him being WAY more aggressive as town. Like old school DP levels of aggression. Here he is just reasonable and meh.
MZ
I feel like he has been flying under the radar a bit, I liked his push on Cake, I liked his push on JSL less.
Calling me never lynch tier could be a possible pocketing attempt but also could be just because I tend to call him town when noone else does and we have vibed a few times this game.
Needs to do more for sure.
Jealous
Most likely to be scum out of these. i liked the open and transparent reasoning in his list post. I think he has looked worse ever since. The formulaic waffle of both sides of an argument is easy to just go through the motions with as mafia. The way he is hard defending me from people also pings me a bit. I can defend myself, why is he not considering those arguments for why I am mafia? Could be a pocketing attempt.
TTS: Lurker. JAT:
Looked really bad for the reasons outlined earlier by sandro and palmar day one.
I just don't think it makes sense he is mafia if palmar and trfel were town, he did this thing where he waited to swap to trefl even when i threatened to lynch him for it.
Doesn't really make sense for mafia to do that.
His posting has been looking good recently in its own right, particularly when interacting with Marv/Rayn
Mafia tier
DMB: The vote and case on me gave me pause for a bit, because of the WIFOM argument of why she would do it, but then refusing to give reads refusing to engage, talking about how exhausted I made her, all points to mafia, and then she actually immediately USED the WIFOM argument in her own defence.
Basically I think her and Cake are partnered, their push on me is basically the same, and they have waffled on their reads of each other. Kind of calling each other scummy and kind of not, and then kind of ignoring each other, but they both have the same top scum read since early on so none of that is natural or normal if they are both town. Looks like classic distancing to me.
I think DMB is showing the same traits this game as her previous game where she just tunnelled palmar IIRC and couldn't really form any other reads about the game.
Same thing here, I was trying to see if she had thought about anyone else, but no.
In her world 26 page DP is scum but she doesn't have the ability to scum read anyone else.
I don;t buy that at all.
Cake
I am running out of time so I can't grab the posts, but I think rayn was on the right track here at night.
She apparently has 4 scum reads but can only talk about me, same thing happened in her last scum read, just got tunnelled on 1-2 players and didn;t look elsewhere.
I gave her space to see if she would do something else, but she ended up just talking about me some more, all the things that apply to dmb re:cake above apply to cake re: dmb here.
I think marv is being super unhelpful by defending her when she is slipping really really hard.
JSL:
Lack of suspicion, didnt do anything with the encouragement on the koshi slip.
Soft defending DMB.
All the stuff sandro posted.
Also I forgot he told me before he would be engaged as mafia, so the engagement is a null tell for him.
VE
I really hate this but he just looks scummy and disengaged. I hope I am wrong so I don;t have to lynch him but I don;t think I am wrong, I think he is just mafia which sucks.
Ok one minute to go.
GL if I don;t see you on the other side.
You deffended Jacob ALL DAY and NIGHT and now he is mafia?
Did I do that?
I don't think that is accurate.
Also I play wifom games ALL night just so you can let your buddies know
You even deffended the “koshi slip”
I really don´t know if cake is mafia and knows I am town and wants to help me a to handle my scum thougths on dp as compassion or if she is just Town and has kinda the same thougths as me
Slam gave up D1. Rels is too busy. Oats did his best but can‘t contain all that info leaking out of dmb in the thread and wants to kill her. Slam told him not to and is avenging dmb by fakeclaiming cop to fake a redcheck on his teammate.
Marv is in shambles and just wants to spend a bit of time with Palmar.
New theory:
The mafia is Vivax, Koshi, Slam, JSL, and DP
They go max try-hard master mafia player mode to make themselves appear town and elect Vivax as mayor. Then they claim as many roles as they feel they can get away with knowing that there are so many roles available that they might just get away with a couple of them and thus look even more town. Then they guide us to mislynches, "reveal" townies like Oats as scum, and eventually get the most insane mafia victory of all time, making town look like a bunch of idiots. Their names are engraved on a golden plaque and the TL Mafia section is closed down. JAT and CC get canonized as saints.
/s
when this is going to be real i will throw my laptop out of the window and then vivax as well
At least you‘d throw the laptop out first. I wouldn‘t be so sure P
when you claim is fake by scum vivax you can for sure hide at to moment I find out...
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote: oats explain your vote on dmb
Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about
i mean did you not read what just happened ???
Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs
Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ? There‘s not much choice here.
But we can pretend at least.
If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him
oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.
It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now
because nobody is fucking explaining to me
Big games have more kp
thanks already found out. didn´t know kp means kill power but doesnt matter I look does things up on wiki.mafiascum.net There I get more infos then from the players here
On March 08 2024 07:09 Vivax wrote: Also don‘t post clowns. Someone here has a phobia. Should have mentioned it before maybe. Not me though, I have to look into the mirror before going to work.
Shit, sorry.
Can I get one-time permission to edit the image out of my post?
On March 08 2024 09:08 die_meatbaby wrote: I don't care whats on page 220 but i will not read anything from that page thanks to who ever that was
My bad on that. Was not informed, and frankly it fit kinda perfect. I already posted a mod question to see if I can be allowed to delete the upload link. I will update you if I get permission to remove it.
On March 08 2024 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Hmm so I took a gander through dmbs filter and I actually don’t see much mafia motivation there at this point. I can see what she was trying to say d1 now near the lynch and it makes sense with her not having 2 great candidates to pick
Oh no. nope. No. Don't do that to me. At this point you know you can’t change the lynch. If you flip mafia it would looked better for me, because you didn't stop voting me even like after nk and slam calling out his announcement about you, you just post #votedmb. And now you know you getting lynched and we will see that you are scum. You changing your mind about me so it looked like it was M vs M here. Why me? Could you not do that shit do somebody else?
On March 09 2024 09:54 DarthPunk wrote: DMB has barely participated today.
I still think DMB is playing closer to her town meta tbh but she has been very quiet.
We have a safe kill. Everthing else what be stupid to do. Even if he is Miller its still the safest option right know. So why should i post more until the lynch. End the post from Jealous got me kinda Panik atack yesterday so I took a step back from tl. Also I will not filter j any more and vivax who made a quote from the post so I will not go in his Filter either. Btw that makes me think about Vivax alignment. He knows how heavy my phobia is about that so maybe he just quote it so I will not Filter him anymore...
On March 09 2024 09:54 DarthPunk wrote: DMB has barely participated today.
I still think DMB is playing closer to her town meta tbh but she has been very quiet.
We have a safe kill. Everthing else what be stupid to do. Even if he is Miller its still the safest option right know. So why should i post more until the lynch. End the post from Jealous got me kinda Panik atack yesterday so I took a step back from tl. Also I will not filter j any more and vivax who made a quote from the post so I will not go in his Filter either. Btw that makes me think about Vivax alignment. He knows how heavy my phobia is about that so maybe he just quote it so I will not Filter him anymore...
On March 09 2024 09:54 DarthPunk wrote: DMB has barely participated today.
I still think DMB is playing closer to her town meta tbh but she has been very quiet.
We have a safe kill. Everthing else what be stupid to do. Even if he is Miller its still the safest option right know. So why should i post more until the lynch. End the post from Jealous got me kinda Panik atack yesterday so I took a step back from tl. Also I will not filter j any more and vivax who made a quote from the post so I will not go in his Filter either. Btw that makes me think about Vivax alignment. He knows how heavy my phobia is about that so maybe he just quote it so I will not Filter him anymore...
Which post was that?
clown meme. you didn't know. Everything's okay. But Vivax could have warned me in RL ...
On March 09 2024 10:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Town Vivax: JK no words necessary
Jsl: uncced GS
Slam: I think the abstract sort of confusion that slam has operated in for the majority of the 2 days is very townie and he has expressed very clear opinions and reads of people so I absolutely think he’s lock town. Not to mention cop etc
DP: he’s been actively pushing to lynch me this entire cycle which I don’t think mafia would do here, much safer to just go with the flow and not actively keep pushing. He’s also started actually giving reads this latter half of the day and scumhunting which again, doesn’t make sense for mafia to do.
Iamp: very townie pushes that he felt invested in and actually wanted to see the dead people. Kinda the reverse of dp, he’s been hard on not lynching me here which again makes no sense for mafia to do because it’s super easy to tmi and mess up especially with the day starting the way it did with everyone believing it
Marv: I was hesitant early on day 1 when he was playing mostly in the dm with rayn but I think at this point the Palmar push was good and I see absolutely no reason mafia!marv discloses that rayn told him who he was targeting with his night action. I do also like that he called out mz’s nonsense today.
Cake: this is a read I’ve been flip flopping throughout the game but at this point I’m settled on her being firmly town, I think the jealous thing especially that happened today is townie because it only draws attention to her and it didn’t feel manufactured or plannned.
Koshi: ngl this read has been fading throughout today. The mid part of day 1 I had a really solid townread on him but I don’t like that his activity has dived so much. However I do like that he’s not voting for me so he’s still firmly town.
Jealous: Said earlier today but I think that his scumhunting efforts have been good and he feels like he wants to solve the game and find the mafia.
DMB: same as the last post about her, none of what she’s doing makes sense as mafia, I’m treating the dumb telling as nai and I mean the dp push is misguided but it feels like she cares
Palmar: slow start but he’s posted a fair bunch today. I don’t think mafia Palmar has to capacity do that rayn post and I also don’t think mafia Palmar gets off of me onto VE.
Mafia Rels: the way that rels has approached today is atrocious. He’s just come in here, stuck his vote on me and left. This is in addition to his day 1 malaise and overreaction in the night.
Mz: Not actually progressing through reads well. The way he approached his cake read was fully odd and not natural with that night post seemingly not to realize that he was literally complaining about his top scum read. I fully expect him to end up on me before the day ends.
Jat: the day 1 super marv sheep without actually reading marv as town was not good and he hasn’t used today at all to advance any of his reads, just content to sit on me and do some waffle
Tts: the insane “I’m a noob idk what is going on” thing is not it and he’s played exactly how I think mafia would play today, just act confused then place a vote
VE: comes into the game terribly saying he’s gonna be active but just doesn’t play. His outrage doesn’t feel real in his posts and he seems like he’s just struggling to actually take an interest in scumhunting
———————- Do not fucking lynch slam ever no matter if I flip miller or VT or I will end you after this game.
so what happend to your vote dmb obsession? half of D1 N1 and even after Slam making his breaking news your first post was vote dmb. I have not interacted with you all day so how come?
Do not fucking lynch slam ever no matter if I flip miller or VT or I will end you after this game.
Don’t you mean when?
When Oats aligment flips red or miller then slam will die in n2 anyways or if oats is just town slam get lynched. Thats so easy that even I understand that.
Do not fucking lynch slam ever no matter if I flip miller or VT or I will end you after this game.
Don’t you mean when?
When Oats aligment flips red or miller then slam will die in n2 anyways or if oats is just town slam get lynched. Thats so easy that even I understand that.
But there is no question from oats that he is town right?
So why say if he is town, he should just say don’t lynch slam when I flip.
If oats is just Town we have to lynch slam. Then he pretended the claim fooled us for one lynch and we get the lynch nr. 2 right. There is no other way. Even me with my Tl skill level 1 I know no matter which scenarion comes we know what to do. Thats the only correct thing to do for our Town
On March 09 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote: IMPORTANT: Play this before you read the following text
Sons of TL, I AM Oatsmaster. And I see a whole army of my townsfolk here in defiance of mafia villainy. You have come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What would you do without freedom? Will you fight?
Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, marvellosity: Fight? Against the red check? No, we will lynch it; and we will live.
Aye, fight against it and you may die. Lynch it and you'll live -- at least a while. And lose the game slowly as our numbers dwindle.
Would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell mafia that they may frame our town, but they'll never take our freedom!!
Sons of TL, I AM Oatsmaster. And I see a whole army of my townsfolk here in defiance of mafia villainy. You have come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What would you do without freedom? Will you fight?
Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, marvellosity: Fight? Against the red check? No, we will lynch it; and we will live.
Aye, fight against it and you may die. Lynch it and you'll live -- at least a while. And lose the game slowly as our numbers dwindle.
Would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell mafia that they may frame our town, but they'll never take our freedom!!
thats the most american thing I have ever experienced. Legend post... but sorry I still lynch you
Sons of TL, I AM Oatsmaster. And I see a whole army of my townsfolk here in defiance of mafia villainy. You have come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What would you do without freedom? Will you fight?
Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, marvellosity: Fight? Against the red check? No, we will lynch it; and we will live.
Aye, fight against it and you may die. Lynch it and you'll live -- at least a while. And lose the game slowly as our numbers dwindle.
Would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell mafia that they may frame our town, but they'll never take our freedom!!
thats the most american thing I have ever experienced. Legend post... but sorry I still lynch you
On March 09 2024 11:53 Vivax wrote: Let‘s hope he flips mafia at least. If he does I‘ll hate him for being so tough.
no matter what happens you are my next suspect
That‘s a legit dumbtell at least
you qouted it because you now what happend if I only just see a pic of it. You saw me one time throwing the phone on the other side of the room in you bedroom. You knew how my night gonna be as it was last night. You just made a quote so i am not gonna be able to filter you anymore. Thats a smart and asshole move togther. I will find out of you true aligmenet withhout filtering you. I read your mind like nobody else. I will be here on every post you gonna make and find out what you truly are
On March 09 2024 11:53 Vivax wrote: Let‘s hope he flips mafia at least. If he does I‘ll hate him for being so tough.
no matter what happens you are my next suspect
That‘s a legit dumbtell at least
you qouted it because you now what happend if I only just see a pic of it. You saw me one time throwing the phone on the other side of the room in you bedroom. You knew how my night gonna be as it was last night. You just made a quote so i am not gonna be able to filter you anymore. Thats a smart and asshole move togther. I will find out of you true aligmenet withhout filtering you. I read your mind like nobody else. I will be here on every post you gonna make and find out what you truly are
If this is an act, it's a pretty good one. Flashbacks of ex girlfriends in my mind rn.
If it's not, well, I wish you the best of luck Vivax. God speed.
he did it on purpose to protect himself from me But I will find it out without filter him!!!
On March 09 2024 12:17 iamperfection wrote: so wait a sec they cant stop us from getting an action off they would have to choose assuming they have a roleblock.
Vivax jails either Jacob or Slam. If they dont roleblock vivax they risk not getting a kill off on one of them. If they do roleblock dp gets a shot off.
Which is why I am shooting DMB.
I am scummy in all the Games no matter which alignment. You should know better also rels who co hosted the games and knew my alignment and saw what scummy shit I posted as Town
On March 09 2024 10:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Town Vivax: JK no words necessary
Jsl: uncced GS
Slam: I think the abstract sort of confusion that slam has operated in for the majority of the 2 days is very townie and he has expressed very clear opinions and reads of people so I absolutely think he’s lock town. Not to mention cop etc
DP: he’s been actively pushing to lynch me this entire cycle which I don’t think mafia would do here, much safer to just go with the flow and not actively keep pushing. He’s also started actually giving reads this latter half of the day and scumhunting which again, doesn’t make sense for mafia to do.
Iamp: very townie pushes that he felt invested in and actually wanted to see the dead people. Kinda the reverse of dp, he’s been hard on not lynching me here which again makes no sense for mafia to do because it’s super easy to tmi and mess up especially with the day starting the way it did with everyone believing it
Marv: I was hesitant early on day 1 when he was playing mostly in the dm with rayn but I think at this point the Palmar push was good and I see absolutely no reason mafia!marv discloses that rayn told him who he was targeting with his night action. I do also like that he called out mz’s nonsense today.
Cake: this is a read I’ve been flip flopping throughout the game but at this point I’m settled on her being firmly town, I think the jealous thing especially that happened today is townie because it only draws attention to her and it didn’t feel manufactured or plannned.
Koshi: ngl this read has been fading throughout today. The mid part of day 1 I had a really solid townread on him but I don’t like that his activity has dived so much. However I do like that he’s not voting for me so he’s still firmly town.
Jealous: Said earlier today but I think that his scumhunting efforts have been good and he feels like he wants to solve the game and find the mafia.
DMB: same as the last post about her, none of what she’s doing makes sense as mafia, I’m treating the dumb telling as nai and I mean the dp push is misguided but it feels like she cares
Palmar: slow start but he’s posted a fair bunch today. I don’t think mafia Palmar has to capacity do that rayn post and I also don’t think mafia Palmar gets off of me onto VE.
Mafia Rels: the way that rels has approached today is atrocious. He’s just come in here, stuck his vote on me and left. This is in addition to his day 1 malaise and overreaction in the night.
Mz: Not actually progressing through reads well. The way he approached his cake read was fully odd and not natural with that night post seemingly not to realize that he was literally complaining about his top scum read. I fully expect him to end up on me before the day ends.
Jat: the day 1 super marv sheep without actually reading marv as town was not good and he hasn’t used today at all to advance any of his reads, just content to sit on me and do some waffle
Tts: the insane “I’m a noob idk what is going on” thing is not it and he’s played exactly how I think mafia would play today, just act confused then place a vote
VE: comes into the game terribly saying he’s gonna be active but just doesn’t play. His outrage doesn’t feel real in his posts and he seems like he’s just struggling to actually take an interest in scumhunting
———————- Do not fucking lynch slam ever no matter if I flip miller or VT or I will end you after this game.
I know it’s entirely wifom. But oats must be putting mafia in the town list here, it’s just human nature. It’s a very similar list to mine except DMB is in it.
I already talked about him when he changed his mind about me QUOTE]On March 08 2024 22:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Hmm so I took a gander through dmbs filter and I actually don’t see much mafia motivation there at this point. I can see what she was trying to say d1 now near the lynch and it makes sense with her not having 2 great candidates to pick
Oh no. nope. No. Don't do that to me. At this point you know you can’t change the lynch. If you flip mafia it would looked better for me, because you didn't stop voting me even like after nk and slam calling out his announcement about you, you just post #votedmb. And now you know you getting lynched and we will see that you are scum. You changing your mind about me so it looked like it was M vs M here. Why me? Could you not do that shit do somebody else? [/QUOTE]
I am an easy lynch for mafia. Thats how they turn my safe townread i would have got around...
Btw i am at work right now and I will be around later at night to talk about it more detailed.
Also didn't like the post from rels: It's nice to catch up without reading oats.... How the fuck you wanna find the scum team without reading the only offical scum Player?!?
On March 09 2024 10:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Town Vivax: JK no words necessary
Jsl: uncced GS
Slam: I think the abstract sort of confusion that slam has operated in for the majority of the 2 days is very townie and he has expressed very clear opinions and reads of people so I absolutely think he’s lock town. Not to mention cop etc
DP: he’s been actively pushing to lynch me this entire cycle which I don’t think mafia would do here, much safer to just go with the flow and not actively keep pushing. He’s also started actually giving reads this latter half of the day and scumhunting which again, doesn’t make sense for mafia to do.
Iamp: very townie pushes that he felt invested in and actually wanted to see the dead people. Kinda the reverse of dp, he’s been hard on not lynching me here which again makes no sense for mafia to do because it’s super easy to tmi and mess up especially with the day starting the way it did with everyone believing it
Marv: I was hesitant early on day 1 when he was playing mostly in the dm with rayn but I think at this point the Palmar push was good and I see absolutely no reason mafia!marv discloses that rayn told him who he was targeting with his night action. I do also like that he called out mz’s nonsense today.
Cake: this is a read I’ve been flip flopping throughout the game but at this point I’m settled on her being firmly town, I think the jealous thing especially that happened today is townie because it only draws attention to her and it didn’t feel manufactured or plannned.
Koshi: ngl this read has been fading throughout today. The mid part of day 1 I had a really solid townread on him but I don’t like that his activity has dived so much. However I do like that he’s not voting for me so he’s still firmly town.
Jealous: Said earlier today but I think that his scumhunting efforts have been good and he feels like he wants to solve the game and find the mafia.
DMB: same as the last post about her, none of what she’s doing makes sense as mafia, I’m treating the dumb telling as nai and I mean the dp push is misguided but it feels like she cares
Palmar: slow start but he’s posted a fair bunch today. I don’t think mafia Palmar has to capacity do that rayn post and I also don’t think mafia Palmar gets off of me onto VE.
Mafia Rels: the way that rels has approached today is atrocious. He’s just come in here, stuck his vote on me and left. This is in addition to his day 1 malaise and overreaction in the night.
Mz: Not actually progressing through reads well. The way he approached his cake read was fully odd and not natural with that night post seemingly not to realize that he was literally complaining about his top scum read. I fully expect him to end up on me before the day ends.
Jat: the day 1 super marv sheep without actually reading marv as town was not good and he hasn’t used today at all to advance any of his reads, just content to sit on me and do some waffle
Tts: the insane “I’m a noob idk what is going on” thing is not it and he’s played exactly how I think mafia would play today, just act confused then place a vote
VE: comes into the game terribly saying he’s gonna be active but just doesn’t play. His outrage doesn’t feel real in his posts and he seems like he’s just struggling to actually take an interest in scumhunting
———————- Do not fucking lynch slam ever no matter if I flip miller or VT or I will end you after this game.
I know it’s entirely wifom. But oats must be putting mafia in the town list here, it’s just human nature. It’s a very similar list to mine except DMB is in it.
I already talked about him when he changed his mind about me QUOTE]On March 08 2024 22:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Hmm so I took a gander through dmbs filter and I actually don’t see much mafia motivation there at this point. I can see what she was trying to say d1 now near the lynch and it makes sense with her not having 2 great candidates to pick
Oh no. nope. No. Don't do that to me. At this point you know you can’t change the lynch. If you flip mafia it would looked better for me, because you didn't stop voting me even like after nk and slam calling out his announcement about you, you just post #votedmb. And now you know you getting lynched and we will see that you are scum. You changing your mind about me so it looked like it was M vs M here. Why me? Could you not do that shit do somebody else?
I am an easy lynch for mafia. Thats how they turn my safe townread i would have got around...
Btw i am at work right now and I will be around later at night to talk about it more detailed.
Also didn't like the post from rels: It's nice to catch up without reading oats.... How the fuck you wanna find the scum team without reading the only offical scum Player?!?
On March 10 2024 01:22 die_meatbaby wrote: Also didn't like the post from rels: It's nice to catch up without reading oats.... How the fuck you wanna find the scum team without reading the only offical scum Player?!?
Every post from Oats I read after I posted this were after the red check, so Oats knew he would flip
On March 04 2024 22:27 Koshi wrote: Ok so phonereading and posting is stupid and I wont do it a lot.
Why I should be mayor: - Will be obvious town entire game. - Mafia doesnt like it when I am obvious town. Proof: I have been nkilled a lot. - I am tiptop active throughout the game even if it takes 2 weeks. - If I am mayor, I will keep an open mind and do extra work to present alternatives, so town does not fall asleep. (Will just be to open conversationand activity up, not to cause confusion)
On March 05 2024 02:56 CopCake wrote: I also do not understand the whole vivax is town because he claimed jailkeeper because that is bullshit.
Not because the logic of the whole scenario but because I think he is the type of player to be insane enough as mafia to do something like that.
I have to mention that I have read so many games from Vivax from the last decade. I can't remember a single game where he claimed a PR as Mafia. He only does something like that when he's really blue or at least green. I think he wouldn't do shit like that, which happens often and ends bad for scum, on day 1 as a scum. toooooo fucking risky. First lowkey townread I have so far.
Maybe we should really make him mayor. He would not ever do that so early and risking d1 lynch for that. Would be to insane
Why did you use "lowkey" there? That doesn't match with the rest of the words, that indicates a pretty strong townread - or with your posts afterwards
On March 05 2024 11:52 die_meatbaby wrote: Rayn
On March 05 2024 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:31 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:23 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?
Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.
Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor.
They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection.
It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain.
I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you....
I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2).
So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough
Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)?
The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv.
you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not.
that's bullshit you have not seen me mafia aside from last game and i havent rolled mafia in like 1,5 years before that.
I actually called him a really good mafia player here and his reaction is definitely not townish.
Why? I don't understand the reasonnig. Can you summarize in 1 sentence why you thought it made rayn scum at the time?
To be real right now I am not sure if Vivax is actually Town and we made a mistake with our mayjor. For me it seems like he may could be mafia... Mafia has an easy lynch with me, thats why they for sure not nk me. I am Town. I behave differnt/scummy and it´s so easy to get a wagon on me. Or he is just stupid and didn´t learn anything from the last games were I behaved the same way and he simply lacks brains
On March 10 2024 10:30 Rels wrote: Why the 2 groups? What link those players together?
Actually I saw this tactic in some old game and thought it was very good. It helps a lot when you're tunnelling the same person for a long time. Group 1 Is stronger in my eyes. More difficult to find. Can immediately take over the thread Excellent manipulation skills on Town for miss lynches (especially when we have weak Townies like me who can be easily lynched).
Group 2 Don´t fear me that much when one of them is scum easier to catch less manipulation more obvious scum play and reveals easier for me.
On March 10 2024 10:43 DarthPunk wrote: I wonder if cake and dmb backed off cause I have a gun
haha never As scum I would put the gun in my mouth. If you make a stupid kill like this and you don´t deserve to be in my group 1 After the oats lynch you should already now that this is just my usuall scummy game without beeing actual scum
On March 05 2024 02:56 CopCake wrote: I also do not understand the whole vivax is town because he claimed jailkeeper because that is bullshit.
Not because the logic of the whole scenario but because I think he is the type of player to be insane enough as mafia to do something like that.
I have to mention that I have read so many games from Vivax from the last decade. I can't remember a single game where he claimed a PR as Mafia. He only does something like that when he's really blue or at least green. I think he wouldn't do shit like that, which happens often and ends bad for scum, on day 1 as a scum. toooooo fucking risky. First lowkey townread I have so far.
Maybe we should really make him mayor. He would not ever do that so early and risking d1 lynch for that. Would be to insane
Why did you use "lowkey" there? That doesn't match with the rest of the words, that indicates a pretty strong townread - or with your posts afterwards
On March 05 2024 11:52 die_meatbaby wrote: Rayn
On March 05 2024 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:31 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.
No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor.
They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection.
It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain.
I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you....
I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2).
So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough
Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)?
The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv.
you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not.
that's bullshit you have not seen me mafia aside from last game and i havent rolled mafia in like 1,5 years before that.
I actually called him a really good mafia player here and his reaction is definitely not townish.
Why? I don't understand the reasonnig. Can you summarize in 1 sentence why you thought it made rayn scum at the time?
To be real right now I am not sure if Vivax is actually Town and we made a mistake with our mayjor. For me it seems like he may could be mafia... Mafia has an easy lynch with me, thats why they for sure not nk me. I am Town. I behave differnt/scummy and it´s so easy to get a wagon on me. Or he is just stupid and didn´t learn anything from the last games were I behaved the same way and he simply lacks brains
Explain in your own words why mafia Vivax risks claiming jk d1 please
Sorry if you did before
But I’m asking for your most logical rational brain answer
D1 thoughts First I thought about if mafia vivax would be able to claim wrong for mayjor But I knew he never claimed blue when he wasn´t regardless of his aligment. I was reading so many games from him could not rember such a thing. Just from chez. This things gona reveal soon so he would get lynched fast. He is really obsessed playing here and wouldn´t risk it
Now: He is not behaving Townish anymore. How he just not voted on Oats even if got a cop check on him reveald. Like how the fuck can people not vote for fucking 95% chance of a correct scum lynch.
I can easy read him. Maybe he was scared that I would find out. He quoted the clowns pic so I will for sure not klick once in his Filter anymore.
He changed his mind about me but lowkey slowly so he can jump and the lynch whats getting pushed by mafia. Because as I said before I am the easiest misslynch to push for mafia.
He behaves more strange since the oats and ve wagon were coming up. I didn´t like his play at all on D2
But I would love to here you opinon on Vivax as well
On March 10 2024 10:30 Rels wrote: Why the 2 groups? What link those players together?
Actually I saw this tactic in some old game and thought it was very good. It helps a lot when you're tunnelling the same person for a long time. Group 1 Is stronger in my eyes. More difficult to find. Can immediately take over the thread Excellent manipulation skills on Town for miss lynches (especially when we have weak Townies like me who can be easily lynched).
Group 2 Don´t fear me that much when one of them is scum easier to catch less manipulation more obvious scum play and reveals easier for me.
Weird What old game?
I don´t remember which game but maybe I will find it again because I am still reading old games from here. Right now I try to find more games with cake to read
On March 10 2024 11:20 marvellosity wrote: Christ. DMB is town?
The fucking hell i am playing here. Can you at least tell would don´t make me fucking TOWN! I try to solve the fucking game. Oats made a shit play on me, but when you read his filter thinking of me as Town that would even make sense for you too. The fuck are you all smoking?? meth?
On March 10 2024 11:12 marvellosity wrote: So DMB is mafia then
why??
I shouldn’t be playing tbh. I will try to phrase better.
If Vivax is mafia and he claims jk early day 1 he risks being counterclaimed. 1 for 1 is terrible trade. Why would he do this?
thats what I try to figure out. How it would make sense him doeing that as mafia
You know him.
You know if he is mafia then why would he risk claiming Jk when he might be counterclaimed.
Give me your best guess if you believe that.
What is the gain for Vivax as mafia there?
I don´t know!!! I just hate his hole play on D2. He play not this stupid as Town!!!
Can you explain it to me? Pls explain how I lost my Townie thoughts on him? I don´t know it either and it fucking disturbs me. Are you with him? Do you know what he is? Are you two teammates? How is the weather in your mafia discord?
On March 10 2024 11:12 marvellosity wrote: So DMB is mafia then
why??
I shouldn’t be playing tbh. I will try to phrase better.
If Vivax is mafia and he claims jk early day 1 he risks being counterclaimed. 1 for 1 is terrible trade. Why would he do this?
thats what I try to figure out. How it would make sense him doeing that as mafia
You know him.
You know if he is mafia then why would he risk claiming Jk when he might be counterclaimed.
Give me your best guess if you believe that.
What is the gain for Vivax as mafia there?
I don´t know!!! I just hate his hole play on D2. He play not this stupid as Town!!!
Can you explain it to me? Pls explain how I lost my Townie thoughts on him? I don´t know it either and it fucking disturbs me. Are you with him? Do you know what he is? Are you two teammates? How is the weather in your mafia discord?
?
That isn’t an answer. Take a step back and answer my question again.
You can’t call Vivax mafia unless you can answer my question
I called Vivax mafia because his hole Day 2 is just a fucking shit show compared to his usuall Town games. but what bothers me is that I still don´t believe he could claim jk as mafia. It´s just tooo fucking risky. Day 2 is just so shit that I have to consider him as potential scum
On March 10 2024 11:12 marvellosity wrote: So DMB is mafia then
why??
I shouldn’t be playing tbh. I will try to phrase better.
If Vivax is mafia and he claims jk early day 1 he risks being counterclaimed. 1 for 1 is terrible trade. Why would he do this?
thats what I try to figure out. How it would make sense him doeing that as mafia
You know him.
You know if he is mafia then why would he risk claiming Jk when he might be counterclaimed.
Give me your best guess if you believe that.
What is the gain for Vivax as mafia there?
I don´t know!!! I just hate his hole play on D2. He play not this stupid as Town!!!
Can you explain it to me? Pls explain how I lost my Townie thoughts on him? I don´t know it either and it fucking disturbs me. Are you with him? Do you know what he is? Are you two teammates? How is the weather in your mafia discord?
?
That isn’t an answer. Take a step back and answer my question again.
You can’t call Vivax mafia unless you can answer my question
I called Vivax mafia because his hole Day 2 is just a fucking shit show compared to his usuall Town games. but what bothers me is that I still don´t believe he could claim jk as mafia. It´s just tooo fucking risky. Day 2 is just so shit that I have to consider him as potential scum
what if ve is mafia
yeah lets lynch him later in the game. He don´t want to play here anymore because we always lynch him so early pls respect that. But yes quite safe lynch tbh
On March 10 2024 11:41 marvellosity wrote: Sigh. Very unsatisfying.
i try to figure out but i can not filter him. I don´t want to see the pic. I don´t want heart breeds and I would love to go to sleep later. So sorry. Not filter a person makes it harder for me to find out what he is
On March 10 2024 11:14 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote] why??
I shouldn’t be playing tbh. I will try to phrase better.
If Vivax is mafia and he claims jk early day 1 he risks being counterclaimed. 1 for 1 is terrible trade. Why would he do this?
thats what I try to figure out. How it would make sense him doeing that as mafia
You know him.
You know if he is mafia then why would he risk claiming Jk when he might be counterclaimed.
Give me your best guess if you believe that.
What is the gain for Vivax as mafia there?
I don´t know!!! I just hate his hole play on D2. He play not this stupid as Town!!!
Can you explain it to me? Pls explain how I lost my Townie thoughts on him? I don´t know it either and it fucking disturbs me. Are you with him? Do you know what he is? Are you two teammates? How is the weather in your mafia discord?
?
That isn’t an answer. Take a step back and answer my question again.
You can’t call Vivax mafia unless you can answer my question
I called Vivax mafia because his hole Day 2 is just a fucking shit show compared to his usuall Town games. but what bothers me is that I still don´t believe he could claim jk as mafia. It´s just tooo fucking risky. Day 2 is just so shit that I have to consider him as potential scum
what if ve is mafia
yeah lets lynch him later in the game. He don´t want to play here anymore because we always lynch him so early pls respect that. But yes quite safe lynch tbh
im asking in the terms of your view of vivax
Of course there is a high chance that he is scum, but voting Ve when we could vote somebody who had a cop check. Like come on. How are the odds that he is miller and how are the odds that we a right about VE?
On March 10 2024 11:56 Rels wrote: I would absolutely be OK with allowing editing of that picture as has been proposed at some point. I think we should do it
Still have not gotten official confirmation so I don't want to just up and do it. I can remove it from my Imgur account and it will break all the links I am pretty sure.
On March 10 2024 12:19 Vivax wrote: Dumbtell five times and you get enough stamps to go on a club med cruise to your nearest English school.
eyy my english has improved a bit, if you compare the first game with this one
Its true.
Tell me why you think cake is town BTW.
I am still diving into old games and try to compare but this game feels a little different to here usual Towngames but also scum games. I will use this day do find out more about her.
On March 10 2024 12:11 die_meatbaby wrote: Town points for DP btw why
What you mean?
the shoot makes you town for me
wow how could have come to such a conclusion
Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.
Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?
i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.
yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?
he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.
Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO
BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves
cake beeing not just mafia but mafia roleblocker what would be such an importend role in this game would make more sense for her hiding. She just appears enough so it looks like her towngame but she really doesn´t play the same.
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote] the shoot makes you town for me
wow how could have come to such a conclusion
Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.
Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?
i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.
yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?
he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.
Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO
BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves
cake beeing not just mafia but mafia roleblocker what would be such an importend role in this game would make more sense for her hiding. She just appears enough so it looks like her towngame but she really doesn´t play the same.
so why not vote cake
#vote cake
I wanna see her reaction and trying to fight for her Town aligment as she used to do it in her old Towngames, if not the vote stays until the end!
On March 11 2024 23:12 iamperfection wrote: Palamr ignored the shit show of last night because he is mafia. So I support this. Plus added benefit that marv is wrong which is always nice.
I mean I would not be mad to vote Palmar. It is always a good choice, but either of his aligment he don´t give a fuck about anything and is ignoring stuff and players as well as I saw in the last game
On March 11 2024 10:33 Vivax wrote: DP alive D3 warrants a better look from any competent town player. And I think he's scum then a bunch of townies show up and make me wanna omgus them.
DP never dies early. DP was not a target above others who have died.
I do not understand why DP was not roleblocked. Maybe they thought he would shoot town cc. Maybe they thought they had to get 2 kills so you had to be rb.
Hmm that makes sense.
Or town DMB
Not just me
The only reason the didnt block town DP is if his pool was full of town
Mafia made a mistake. Who knows why. They fucked up
On March 11 2024 23:12 iamperfection wrote: Palamr ignored the shit show of last night because he is mafia. So I support this. Plus added benefit that marv is wrong which is always nice.
I mean I would not be mad to vote Palmar. It is always a good choice, but either of his aligment he don´t give a fuck about anything and is ignoring stuff and players as well as I saw in the last game
Always a good choice??? Why
Palmar only appears at certain times and then he's gone again for a long time. He did the same in the last game, but at least he was still replying and commenting on posts that were written during this offline time. I can already see a few difference between the way he plays now and in the last game
On March 11 2024 23:12 iamperfection wrote: Palamr ignored the shit show of last night because he is mafia. So I support this. Plus added benefit that marv is wrong which is always nice.
I mean I would not be mad to vote Palmar. It is always a good choice, but either of his aligment he don´t give a fuck about anything and is ignoring stuff and players as well as I saw in the last game
Good analysis.
I only read and talk about stuff I'm interested in.
Speculation on what mafia does is not one of those things. I can't control mafia and I can't know the setup, so I literally do not care about any discussion about it.
Don´t worry right know I prefer to look in the filters from Koshi and Reels at the moment. I'm sceptical about their aligment more then yours.
On March 11 2024 10:33 Vivax wrote: DP alive D3 warrants a better look from any competent town player. And I think he's scum then a bunch of townies show up and make me wanna omgus them.
DP never dies early. DP was not a target above others who have died.
I do not understand why DP was not roleblocked. Maybe they thought he would shoot town cc. Maybe they thought they had to get 2 kills so you had to be rb.
Hmm that makes sense.
Or town DMB
Not just me
The only reason the didnt block town DP is if his pool was full of town
Mafia made a mistake. Who knows why. They fucked up
maybe you know why?
You are protected by MZ. So I will only townread you.
This was not a reply to what you said. But just an announcement.
I could not get a Townread from you in the last 3 games. Why you trusting MZ so much that you give me a Townread, because of him?
On March 11 2024 10:33 Vivax wrote: DP alive D3 warrants a better look from any competent town player. And I think he's scum then a bunch of townies show up and make me wanna omgus them.
DP never dies early. DP was not a target above others who have died.
I do not understand why DP was not roleblocked. Maybe they thought he would shoot town cc. Maybe they thought they had to get 2 kills so you had to be rb.
Hmm that makes sense.
Or town DMB
Not just me
The only reason the didnt block town DP is if his pool was full of town
Mafia made a mistake. Who knows why. They fucked up
maybe you know why?
You are protected by MZ. So I will only townread you.
This was not a reply to what you said. But just an announcement.
I could not get a Townread from you in the last 3 games. Why you trusting MZ so much that you give me a Townread, because of him?
Ahh I get it. Safe the easy lynch. Maybe both wagons are Town and you don´t want that I get lynched because when we are about to lynch real mafia in the future ... you can push dmb wagon for lynch because that is as easier as taking a shit.
On March 11 2024 23:12 iamperfection wrote: Palamr ignored the shit show of last night because he is mafia. So I support this. Plus added benefit that marv is wrong which is always nice.
I mean I would not be mad to vote Palmar. It is always a good choice, but either of his aligment he don´t give a fuck about anything and is ignoring stuff and players as well as I saw in the last game
Good analysis.
I only read and talk about stuff I'm interested in.
Speculation on what mafia does is not one of those things. I can't control mafia and I can't know the setup, so I literally do not care about any discussion about it.
Don´t worry right know I prefer to look in the filters from Koshi and Reels at the moment. I'm sceptical about their aligment more then yours.
Koshi is in the tinfoil pile, you should probably not waste much time looking into him because we're not lynching him today.
He is unpredictable, and he thinks I'm town so maybe he's mafia.
But, koshi could not have known I would pussy out of calling Oats mafia, and there was absolutely some serious push towards Oats getting lynched on day 1. This includes Vivax the mayor talking about it. The chances of Koshi making that towncase on Oats as a fellow mafia member is pretty low.
It exists, and if anyone is ballsy enough to pull it off it might actually be koshi, but as I stated, we're not at the state of the game where we need to be lynching people who have objective reasons to call them town, and Koshi is in that category.
On March 11 2024 23:12 iamperfection wrote: Palamr ignored the shit show of last night because he is mafia. So I support this. Plus added benefit that marv is wrong which is always nice.
I mean I would not be mad to vote Palmar. It is always a good choice, but either of his aligment he don´t give a fuck about anything and is ignoring stuff and players as well as I saw in the last game
Good analysis.
I only read and talk about stuff I'm interested in.
Speculation on what mafia does is not one of those things. I can't control mafia and I can't know the setup, so I literally do not care about any discussion about it.
Don´t worry right know I prefer to look in the filters from Koshi and Reels at the moment. I'm sceptical about their aligment more then yours.
Koshi is in the tinfoil pile, you should probably not waste much time looking into him because we're not lynching him today.
He is unpredictable, and he thinks I'm town so maybe he's mafia.
But, koshi could not have known I would pussy out of calling Oats mafia, and there was absolutely some serious push towards Oats getting lynched on day 1. This includes Vivax the mayor talking about it. The chances of Koshi making that towncase on Oats as a fellow mafia member is pretty low.
It exists, and if anyone is ballsy enough to pull it off it might actually be koshi, but as I stated, we're not at the state of the game where we need to be lynching people who have objective reasons to call them town, and Koshi is in that category.
do you have any thoughts about rels
I haven’t given myself the time to go back to read him. But I think DP called him town after diving into it and I’m somewhat willing to sheep that now
very depressing... My scumthoughts always getting so many Townreads. Does he really play that bad when he is Town?
On March 11 2024 10:33 Vivax wrote: DP alive D3 warrants a better look from any competent town player. And I think he's scum then a bunch of townies show up and make me wanna omgus them.
DP never dies early. DP was not a target above others who have died.
I do not understand why DP was not roleblocked. Maybe they thought he would shoot town cc. Maybe they thought they had to get 2 kills so you had to be rb.
Hmm that makes sense.
Or town DMB
Not just me
The only reason the didnt block town DP is if his pool was full of town
Mafia made a mistake. Who knows why. They fucked up
maybe you know why?
You are protected by MZ. So I will only townread you.
This was not a reply to what you said. But just an announcement.
I could not get a Townread from you in the last 3 games. Why you trusting MZ so much that you give me a Townread, because of him?
Ahh I get it. Safe the easy lynch. Maybe both wagons are Town and you don´t want that I get lynched because when we are about to lynch real mafia in the future ... you can push dmb wagon for lynch because that is as easier as taking a shit.
Ok.
You never gave me a Townread in the past games? Why now? What's different? Why do you trust MZ so much that you see me as Town?
On March 12 2024 00:27 CopCake wrote: I wouldnt mind Palmar lynch or Rels lynch, mostly because it would give ME perspectives.
But cake stop with your scenarios.
Cant forgive Tfrel got lynched out of thin air.
But you have do see that Trfl was really good in his last Town game and almost knew the hole mafia team at an early start. I think people fear him as mafia when he plays that good as town.
On March 11 2024 16:54 Koshi wrote: [quote] DP never dies early. DP was not a target above others who have died.
I do not understand why DP was not roleblocked. Maybe they thought he would shoot town cc. Maybe they thought they had to get 2 kills so you had to be rb.
Hmm that makes sense.
Or town DMB
Not just me
The only reason the didnt block town DP is if his pool was full of town
Mafia made a mistake. Who knows why. They fucked up
maybe you know why?
You are protected by MZ. So I will only townread you.
This was not a reply to what you said. But just an announcement.
I could not get a Townread from you in the last 3 games. Why you trusting MZ so much that you give me a Townread, because of him?
Ahh I get it. Safe the easy lynch. Maybe both wagons are Town and you don´t want that I get lynched because when we are about to lynch real mafia in the future ... you can push dmb wagon for lynch because that is as easier as taking a shit.
Ok.
You never gave me a Townread in the past games? Why now? What's different? Why do you trust MZ so much that you see me as Town?
I decided to trust MZ unconditionally on you. On a whimp.
Not Voting(5): Trfel, Jealous, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli, ToTheStars
With 6 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!
Let me know if you see any votes misplaced
The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
tothestars was obv. mafia but the problem is when we would have lynched him we don´t get any information about his teammates. I liked it better that dp just shoot him instead of wasting time for a lynch. Voting on TTS as mafia would be safe but really voting on a teammate for the first lynch? When there is the chance to lynch a Town out? I doubt that
On March 12 2024 01:55 CopCake wrote: Where is DMB?
DMB was out to get some food and had another police check. The policemen in this village just don't like me, but I didn't have to pay anything. Just the usual alcohol test.
On March 12 2024 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote VE
I don´t know what do think about that. Would he vote himself out to give us a lesson about always reading his aligment wrong or does he give up and try to not give us any clues to his mates when he flip red.
On March 12 2024 01:55 CopCake wrote: Where is DMB?
DMB was out to get some food and had another police check. The policemen in this village just don't like me, but I didn't have to pay anything. Just the usual alcohol test.
They didn't check if you were paying taxes so some real estate mogul could fly around with his jet at our expense?
I ask if I could sleep at the police station, because there a no arpatments here. He was getting more mad at me.
On March 12 2024 01:55 CopCake wrote: Where is DMB?
DMB was out to get some food and had another police check. The policemen in this village just don't like me, but I didn't have to pay anything. Just the usual alcohol test.
They didn't check if you were paying taxes so some real estate mogul could fly around with his jet at our expense?
I ask if I could sleep at the police station, because there a no arpatments here. He was getting more mad at me.
They were looking for the shipment of detective thongs that went missing there.
I can't help the delays in delivery. Children's hands are just slow.
On March 12 2024 06:15 CopCake wrote: Like it doesnt matter, all i say is lie lie lie and only talk of one person.
Oh dear.
Make bigger, more outrageous lies. Make an entire website dedicated to it. Make it a part of the social media conglomerate.
and then get the first femal president of the united staates
Or cake you can fly to a small town in Thailand, get accepted by their people, learn the language, train in muay thai for a year and a half, fight in a tournament, win the tournament, return to the USA and join the UFC, stay in shape and go undefeated in your weight class, retire and do an interview saying this game was the reason you fought so hard.
On March 12 2024 06:31 Koshi wrote: [The case on why CopCake is Town.
1) What is CopCake not doing this game that is most of the time typical mafia? - She has been from the start out there. Doing the tea party with her lock townreads to form a town circle. She has called prominent, thread sentiment people mafia. She has commented multiple time that she wants to be heard.
On March 05 2024 05:52 DarthPunk wrote: Copcake why are you not voting for me?
Because I am town and gave you fresh air. I am not closed on you, my read evolve according to what is happening.
If you are just painfully bad at reading me and tbh downgrading my game doesn't make you mafia, just a bad player at reading me.
I can't find the post in which she says iamp Vivax and DP are mafia. But that was also out there.
2) I do not feel that Copcake is pushing mafia agenda in this game ever. If I feel anything, that is that Copcake is trying to solve the game on her own. And she is not doing that badly. She attacks DP a lot early game because she believes he is just spamming without content. She votes Slam for lying. She votes TTS based on this:
On March 05 2024 05:10 CopCake wrote: ##Vote: ToTheStars
On March 04 2024 14:55 ToTheStars wrote: I also have a weak townlean on DP and Vivax
You guys are so slow with your day starts though, how can you make 0 votes in first 3 pages.
On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote: I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).
I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).
And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.
You are very confident you are going to survive late.
I can all see it happen in town!CC world in which she is trying to solve the game. I also see a lot of casual banter posts that don't feel forced or weird in a "I am scum and I try to belong" way.
On March 05 2024 05:52 DarthPunk wrote: Copcake why are you not voting for me?
Because I am town and gave you fresh air. I am not closed on you, my read evolve according to what is happening.
If you are just painfully bad at reading me and tbh downgrading my game doesn't make you mafia, just a bad player at reading me.
What made your read evolve specifically and in what way has it evolved?
And I literally caught you as mafia day one in the only game we played together so not sure how you can seriously think that I am bad at reading you.
You are bad, because you got convinced otherwise. Because I made you doubt TTT, because I got my team three days without town getting us, without no lynch. We could have gone a 4th but we concede.
So do not think you are an expert of reading me, if you were a top tier player you could have gotten me, marv and vivax that game.
But you didnt.
Your soft sissy read on me that you got first of me is not enough to call you a "cake expert". Get off your high horse, wear town shoes and try to solve the game.
Can you answer the question you quoted and then didn’t answer.
I took distance, and look somewhere else, giving you benefit of the doubt. Specially with all the stupid JK thing.
[And my approach to you wasn't even aggressive, I even shared a bit of what I think and how I work. I even expected nice feedback but "Lol, cake is mafia hur hur hur"
So, even with that, I decided to let you go because it is not beneficial to town to start another cake vs dp war.
If you want to continue and go on a crussade against me is your prerogative but I am town this game.
GLHF.
So what do you think my alignment is now?
Tbh, I dont give a fuck. You refuse to cooperate with me, asking me the same questions over and over without getting a conclusion.
I will deal with you later IF i am alive next day.
She believes she might be night killed. I like to think she is genuine here.
She is also very snippy snappy towards people. She bites quite often and towards a lot of people.
Ok. I started numbering things but I cba to format this properly. I also like this tbh:
On March 04 2024 15:33 CopCake wrote: Why are you so obsessed with me?
Is this your auto response to pressure?
Ok sell me on Jacob.
On March 05 2024 13:47 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 10:09 JacobStrangelove wrote: Hmm I guess parking vote on TTS for now.
##Vote: ToTheStars
Dude you think I am mafia and you are literally voting for the same person I am lynching?
Please stop blending in peoples opinions about me and get to your own conclusions.
You are also another person out of character. The first game i read from you, you were funny. Here you are acting as if you were walking on toes trying not to make a sound.
I haven't played with him before and you say he's out of character. You voted TTS like 8 hours ago because he said he was going to survive late. I agree that JS's vote is really weak but is that enough for you to come off of TTS and essentially OMGUS JS? Just walk me through it bc I haven't played with him and I've got time and an open mind rn.
I voted to the stars Jacob thinks I am mafia Votes to the stars
He is voting for the scumread of his scumread.
To me this shows she is critical thinking about the game. It is not impossible for a mafia to make these kinda posts. But I like that a town!CC catches things like this. It shows she wants to solve the game. Same thing basically. She is actually following up on what Vivax is writing down. I am town and cba tbh.
On March 06 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote: Like, I dont understand why is it so bad to question Vivax claim.
I have the right to do it if I wanted to.
Okay so outside of the claim, how is vivax mafia
The claim itself is just stupid, how he wants tfrel dead considering the last game, I dont think he is scumhunting
His reads
On March 05 2024 23:13 Vivax wrote: I think rayn has a decent chance to flip mafia by the way. Cop says he can't be because he'd be angrier but there's nothing that says he isn't simply more restrained in this game.
I'm moving cop out of the mafia pool just because of what Koshi said about her and good intentions. I still think she was struggling back then and took way too long to join the chorus calling my claim awful.
Iamperfection has dropped off a lot and looks a lot like Oats at this point. I just don't see any motivation to find the right lynch here. Erratic play. I believe Oats still didn't deliver an estimation of marv and Sandroba like I asked.
I don't want to lynch Palmar. I think marv is doing jack shit, and he didn't try to run for mayor for it. The Palmar vote was his first meaningful contribution, and everyone treated it like some high priest tossed a piece of metal from a pyramid and they went wild chasing it while screeching like a bunch of teenies at a rock concert.
I also think marv is kinda avoidant of DP and I know that marv has to fear DP if he's mafia. Him masoning Sandoba over DP is bad and might explain DPs lower effort.
MZ, Rels reasonable and pro-town all around but also a bit synthetic and lacking emotion for now. Not on the table for D1 I think and they have shown that they know what it takes to not lose to a casino.
DMB I think town. I liked most of the placements in her list and she had a golden opportunity to fall into her meta of antagonizing me just for fun and blending in with others doing so. I don't think she'd want a JK as mayor as mafia either.
That's about it for now. Otherwise:
Hapa joined discord and didn't post at all so I think it's due we make him the main secondary wagon that I can kill but I also need town's consent for it. Jealous works too, just make it visible please.
and an hour later
On March 06 2024 00:10 Vivax wrote: Slam, iamp, TTS, Hapa
Man this game is easy
read progressions are not ok
Long conversation with Oats. Doesn't feel forced. Oats asks her. She answers. Nobody wants to disengage.
The claim itself is just stupid, how he wants tfrel dead considering the last game, I dont think he is scumhunting
His reads
[quote]
and an hour later
[quote]
read progressions are not ok
Out of curiosity, have you played with vivax before? And secondly, have you read the game you linked earlier?
Yeah, I have played with Vivax and yeah, that is why I said Tfrel MVP there.
So with what you linked, how is that not typical vivax? He literally does that that’s vivax
I do not understand his claim, when he knows he might suffer the danger of getting misslynched anyways because the claim is just so bad to be true. Which makes me believe that he could be mafia with at least two big names.
I want to rule out that probability, as easy as that.
Yes you said this already. The question I’m asking is if you think he’s mafia then there has to be things other than the claim that he’s doing that’s scummy
How many times has vivax said he wants tfrel dead?
How many votes have Tfrel gotten?
On March 05 2024 23:58 Grackaroni wrote: Day One VoteCount
On March 06 2024 12:12 CopCake wrote: In before, cake why were you so sure Tfrel was town? Only mafia can be like that 🧟♀️
I wasnt sure, but I stated why Tfrel is a good player AND it was probably his real birthday today, we saw a birthday cake in his username and he said he was unaware, so if he id mia maybe it is because of the celebration.
It has sass, it has insanity, like... how does this not read as somebody alone just playing the game; saying what she thinks?
Again sassy, against red Oats. "You are not worthy to play with me" But it just doesn't feel forced nor did she then make Oats mafia or something. Oats played us all very well.
On March 06 2024 12:27 Rels wrote: Meh on Trfel being lynched, I would have lynched over half the game before him
I glanced at the Tfrel list and I saw big names, I need to read the whole thread progession but yesterday it was discussed that Tfrel is “scummy” for his lack of participation of the thread.
Some *big names* or big name deffended him also saying he was a good player. Need to see who it was and if he ended up lynching him.
I made a comparasion of how he acted in the last game and saw the number of posts he made. So if “being inactive” is the reason and a big player did that, I think it is a very good place where to look for a mafia.
On March 05 2024 10:54 sandroba wrote: I feel like it's harder to argue against vivax mayor as mafia. Rels and palmar both entered the thread with that mindset. Pretty much ignored most of what happened for most of the thread but making sure they say what they were supposed to say as town about the vivax claim as soon as possible. There are obviously town reasons to mayor vivax, but there is some reluctance I expect from townies. I think the over-eagerness to jump on the vivax train right away points to mafia.
Hard disagree. I find people who just accept it for what it is and make the correct play in regards to him is townie.
The scummy thing is talking around in circles about how shit vivax’s claim was, that he might not be town or if he is he is not confirmed
It’s a huge waste of time and shits up the thread and is also incredibly easy content to fake.
I found palmars approach to the situation very townie for example
Are you still lock town on trfel btw?
Didn't see much of people saying he might not be town. Shitting up the thread discussing the claim being bad I agree, CopCake is the main person I saw driving the discussion back to that. I think saying he is prob town and prob not the best mayor, at least initially is the reaction I would expect from townies. Remember, even though scum might not want something, it's hard to actually push something when you think it would be obvious anti-town. Scum wants to hide and push things in a subtle way. Not locked town on trfel since he hasn't been very active, but wouldn't lynch him d1 in a million years. What he has posted so far after the initial setup-focused posts looked super townie to me.
I really really really don't see that. Last game I was so sure he was town. What is he doing here? Everytime he gets pressured he moves away from it. Slam asks him about Oats. He gives a good answer but it lacks conviction. It looks way more as a mafia seeing Town!Oats be inquisitive than a townie figuring out Town!Oats is inquisitive. Slam then pressures on and while replying to somebody else he @slam and disengages with him.
This can't be the same Tfrel as last game? You went 4 days with him. Under pressure by marv/DP/rayn iirc. This looks the same to you? I should follow your lead on him but it seems impossible.
This is a good post.
Probably trfel is mafia.
Yeah maybe but CC and sandroba are town and they are townreading tfrel. So don't fuck up their game and lynch Tfrel over Hapa and Palmar.
With this, I mean, DP tried to put the Tfrel blame on Koshi.
This also felt like a very natural conclusion to the catch up she did. Because she was focused on everything around Tfrel.
On March 06 2024 07:55 Koshi wrote: DP, can you do me a favor? When closer to deadline, can you take a step back and feel the thread? Try to feel if the players that came back to the thread are pushing an agenda?
I think the last 12 hours town had control over the thread, I fear that the mafia let us be, and will come back once we are asleep.
I could name some people but that wont be fair to them.
marv should not be shaded during the next hours. There is no need for that. He left the masons and came to play in the thread, that is a positive thing.
My remaining nulls/scumreads went into hiding.
Do not shade marv until we see palmar flip town. There is no reason to doubt marv his alignment. Remember marv posted reads in mason chat and rayn hard townread marv for it.
Town Koshi is invited to my party
She was hyperfocused on tfrel getting lynched. Her 3 names explained:
On March 06 2024 22:29 CopCake wrote: Rayn, if you think I am mafia for that then I guess you are mafia.
You should know me better than anyone.
I was trying to understand Palmars approch because he came to me nicely trying to teach me “how to play mafia” so I put in the shoes to understand why he thinks DP is town if he is town.
So in that interaction, considering Palmar as town I said “you consider DP town because he pocketed you”.
Again shows she is reading and remembering. Trying to solve.
On March 06 2024 22:41 CopCake wrote: For isntance, that list was based on how people acted to the end of the day before the lynch.
Ie. No one is questioning vivax:
Happa probably gave up because he is mafia Tfrel is hiding because he is mafia Rayn is crying in copcakes arms Nobody touches my girlfriend because she gives good head
I am so right and you are idiots hur hur hur
When vivax was mafia with me he did the same. 🤷🏽♀️
He even said something like he would avenge Dumb.
she is also quickfiring here↑. At least 10 posts; always 3-4 minutes apart. Lot's of topics. I wont quote them but again. Easy as town solving game, really hard as mafia.
On March 07 2024 12:00 DarthPunk wrote: Darthpunk's last will and testament.
Basically I have been trying to sort people since the flips and my reads have been changing a bit. but i'll post a brief summary here as guidance and reads.
And also so that i can prevent what I think are some of the biggest potential errors moving forward.
Do not lynch tier:
Palmar: He has looked really town since he started playing in the second part of day 1, in addition to my original reasons for not wanting him to be lynched (mindmeld with sandro, emotional congruence, effort to post reads when all was looking doomed) I think he has continued to look good, I find myself agreeing with his perspectives, I see hints of trolling, I think him and marv are vibing.
The interaction with cake's shit takes was really townie to me.
IT IS IMPORTANT YOU DON"T LYNCH PALMAR- can't stress this enough, no idea why people are getting stuck on small shit that doesn't matter, for example, rayn if you are town, it is well known that palmar doesn't do associative reads. The whole mason shit is a useless direction. This is probably the biggest throw for town imo.
Sandro
Is just getting down to business scumhunting and sorting. I think he is the best player to sheep this game if you are lost.
Oatsmaster
His play this game reminds me of his play in the last game where he was town, he is being smart, pushing in good directions and generally looks super town to me.
Vivax
Been discussed to death, he is the town JK in my opinion.
Perfection
Looked town all game pretty much, some of his takes I think are wrong, I think he looked really town around the lynch.
Also his scum play was terribad last time so I don't think this is that.
Probably town tier
Koshi
I was debating putting him in the tier above, because he has looked really townie all game, and dramatically different to his mafia game, which was really lackluster.
I don't think he pushes marv and rayn in the way he did as mafia.
There are a couple of things that give me pause to him being 'lock' town, first of all is a post where he is aggressively pushing rayn and then kind of completely reverses
On March 05 2024 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2024 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Thankfully i can play the game with marv, it's much more enjoyable than this thread.
I admit I came in too strong. But rereading it, it was too strong but luckily not over the top. But it is fair you got annoyed.
Seeing my case and my post you must understand why I can't let you be Mayor right? It's just not enough to earn it. Vivax did you dirty by claiming but there should not be a competition about the Mayor today. Can you vote vivax? You are 99.98% on him.
I am interested in your reads on JAT and Rels. Just for my sake. Because I will not be able to read them today.
I think it makes it clear the aggression was at least somewhat ingenuine.
I still think he is town but yeah not as confident as I was, also don't like the casually mentioning me as a possible mafia candidate after it seemed like I was lock town all game, but maybe that was NK wifom. :D
I am waiting for a 'smart' koshi moment and push which I haven't seen yet.
Rayn
Honestly this was a hard one for me to sort, there are times when i thought he was town and other times where I thought he was mafia.
I still don't really understand the way he has been interacting with me this game, it felt 'different' than normal. I thought it made him mafia, but currently I am putting it down to the fact he just thinks I am bad.
I think his best moments came this night when he went into 'solver mode' with JAT. and I think he had a really good push on cake, and subsequent ideas on DMB which I think are likely correct.
So town, the palmar/rayn shit started looking very TvT to me too. so there is that.
I don't think he is as correct as he assumes (like every game) but town.
Slam
Un CC'd cop (fuck you VE ) also looked town around the end of day chaos.
Marv
Has been playing a solid game so far, in the back of my mind I always think he is mafia for engagement tells, but when I was wrong last game I decided to shelve that as old meta. I think he is mafia he will slip up later, It's kind of weird for town!marv to not call me mafia but i don't really think he is mafia either. Biggest town tell for him I think is his penchant for defending weaker scummy players like copcake.
Also the shit with trfel, where he was really sad about reading the lynch, and the town read on hapa, both those pinged me as genuine and townie.
Possible mafia/possible town
Rels:
He has looked logical when he posts, but his wasted vote and push on palmar was a big red flag where it was useless and he wasn't really trying that hard to take thread control and change the lynch.
lack of investment could be explained by IRL matters, but I also think Rels could be mafia.
Also I remember him being WAY more aggressive as town. Like old school DP levels of aggression. Here he is just reasonable and meh.
MZ
I feel like he has been flying under the radar a bit, I liked his push on Cake, I liked his push on JSL less.
Calling me never lynch tier could be a possible pocketing attempt but also could be just because I tend to call him town when noone else does and we have vibed a few times this game.
Needs to do more for sure.
Jealous
Most likely to be scum out of these. i liked the open and transparent reasoning in his list post. I think he has looked worse ever since. The formulaic waffle of both sides of an argument is easy to just go through the motions with as mafia. The way he is hard defending me from people also pings me a bit. I can defend myself, why is he not considering those arguments for why I am mafia? Could be a pocketing attempt.
TTS: Lurker. JAT:
Looked really bad for the reasons outlined earlier by sandro and palmar day one.
I just don't think it makes sense he is mafia if palmar and trfel were town, he did this thing where he waited to swap to trefl even when i threatened to lynch him for it.
Doesn't really make sense for mafia to do that.
His posting has been looking good recently in its own right, particularly when interacting with Marv/Rayn
Mafia tier
DMB: The vote and case on me gave me pause for a bit, because of the WIFOM argument of why she would do it, but then refusing to give reads refusing to engage, talking about how exhausted I made her, all points to mafia, and then she actually immediately USED the WIFOM argument in her own defence.
Basically I think her and Cake are partnered, their push on me is basically the same, and they have waffled on their reads of each other. Kind of calling each other scummy and kind of not, and then kind of ignoring each other, but they both have the same top scum read since early on so none of that is natural or normal if they are both town. Looks like classic distancing to me.
I think DMB is showing the same traits this game as her previous game where she just tunnelled palmar IIRC and couldn't really form any other reads about the game.
Same thing here, I was trying to see if she had thought about anyone else, but no.
In her world 26 page DP is scum but she doesn't have the ability to scum read anyone else.
I don;t buy that at all.
Cake
I am running out of time so I can't grab the posts, but I think rayn was on the right track here at night.
She apparently has 4 scum reads but can only talk about me, same thing happened in her last scum read, just got tunnelled on 1-2 players and didn;t look elsewhere.
I gave her space to see if she would do something else, but she ended up just talking about me some more, all the things that apply to dmb re:cake above apply to cake re: dmb here.
I think marv is being super unhelpful by defending her when she is slipping really really hard.
JSL:
Lack of suspicion, didnt do anything with the encouragement on the koshi slip.
Soft defending DMB.
All the stuff sandro posted.
Also I forgot he told me before he would be engaged as mafia, so the engagement is a null tell for him.
VE
I really hate this but he just looks scummy and disengaged. I hope I am wrong so I don;t have to lynch him but I don;t think I am wrong, I think he is just mafia which sucks.
Ok one minute to go.
GL if I don;t see you on the other side.
You deffended Jacob ALL DAY and NIGHT and now he is mafia?
Again. Good observation and I need to double check if this is true. Because I will vote Jealous tomorrow. Ok. she quoted DP and not Jacob so ignore the entire thing. WIFOM but I like it more from town CC:
On March 12 2024 21:14 CopCake wrote: Why am I town, Koshi?
Same reason here. He just give me Townreads because of MZ You get Townreads without any explanation from him. There are always reason why you Townread somebody. That hole Koshi thing in this game just feels like a bit lazy mafia...
On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk?
How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M...
On March 12 2024 21:14 CopCake wrote: Why am I town, Koshi?
Same reason here. He just give me Townreads because of MZ You get Townreads without any explanation from him. There are always reason why you Townread somebody. That hole Koshi thing in this game just feels like a bit lazy mafia...
DmB I have a meta townread on you, I'm not going to argue against people who say you haven't done much to help out but I'm gonna tell them I think you're a mislynch waiting to happen.
That's what Koshi felt about cake, and for what it's worth after the shenanigans of yesterday I actually kinda find myself agreeing with him.
Sometimes to solve games like this, at some point you have to accept someone else's read is more correct on a person, I wouldn't call Koshi scum for TRing you based on my read, just expedient to try and narrow down the pool of people he has to analyze. If I'm wrong about you dmb and you win as scum, I'll take my ridicule post game.
As scum, I wouldn't question a townread about me, no matter who it was from, but as a town I have to. Especially when it comes from Koshi. Of the last 3 games, I didn't get a single townread from him, no matter what I was.
On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk?
How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M...
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)
As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia
This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
On March 12 2024 21:14 CopCake wrote: Why am I town, Koshi?
Same reason here. He just give me Townreads because of MZ You get Townreads without any explanation from him. There are always reason why you Townread somebody. That hole Koshi thing in this game just feels like a bit lazy mafia...
DmB I have a meta townread on you, I'm not going to argue against people who say you haven't done much to help out but I'm gonna tell them I think you're a mislynch waiting to happen.
That's what Koshi felt about cake, and for what it's worth after the shenanigans of yesterday I actually kinda find myself agreeing with him.
Sometimes to solve games like this, at some point you have to accept someone else's read is more correct on a person, I wouldn't call Koshi scum for TRing you based on my read, just expedient to try and narrow down the pool of people he has to analyze. If I'm wrong about you dmb and you win as scum, I'll take my ridicule post game.
As scum, I wouldn't question a townread about me, no matter who it was from, but as a town I have to. Especially when it comes from Koshi. Of the last 3 games, I didn't get a single townread from him, no matter what I was.
OK that's fair, was he town or scum when he was calling you scum?
Also I'm very sure I was part of a push to mislynch you in your first game and now I'm townreading you for very similar play, Koshi could be willing to listen to me because he's also learned your meta a bit.
I think that's all I'll say on this for now, I don't wanna put words in Koshi's mouth and it's definitely your right to be suspicious of him.
First game he was Town and I was Town Second game he was Mafia and I was Town Third game he was Town and I was Mafia
On March 12 2024 21:14 CopCake wrote: Why am I town, Koshi?
Same reason here. He just give me Townreads because of MZ You get Townreads without any explanation from him. There are always reason why you Townread somebody. That hole Koshi thing in this game just feels like a bit lazy mafia...
DmB I have a meta townread on you, I'm not going to argue against people who say you haven't done much to help out but I'm gonna tell them I think you're a mislynch waiting to happen.
That's what Koshi felt about cake, and for what it's worth after the shenanigans of yesterday I actually kinda find myself agreeing with him.
Sometimes to solve games like this, at some point you have to accept someone else's read is more correct on a person, I wouldn't call Koshi scum for TRing you based on my read, just expedient to try and narrow down the pool of people he has to analyze. If I'm wrong about you dmb and you win as scum, I'll take my ridicule post game.
As scum, I wouldn't question a townread about me, no matter who it was from, but as a town I have to. Especially when it comes from Koshi. Of the last 3 games, I didn't get a single townread from him, no matter what I was.
OK that's fair, was he town or scum when he was calling you scum?
Also I'm very sure I was part of a push to mislynch you in your first game and now I'm townreading you for very similar play, Koshi could be willing to listen to me because he's also learned your meta a bit.
I think that's all I'll say on this for now, I don't wanna put words in Koshi's mouth and it's definitely your right to be suspicious of him.
First game he was Town and I was Town Second game he was Mafia and I was Town Third game he was Town and I was Mafia
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On March 12 2024 21:14 CopCake wrote: Why am I town, Koshi?
Same reason here. He just give me Townreads because of MZ You get Townreads without any explanation from him. There are always reason why you Townread somebody. That hole Koshi thing in this game just feels like a bit lazy mafia...
Still criticizing me for lazy townreada like a boss.
that was on koshi. I know him that is suspect for him
On March 13 2024 01:23 Koshi wrote: I think a Palmar and Koshi wagon is fair tomorrow. In honor of VE.
this post confuse me. why not arguing with me about why I think you are scum and trying to change my mind? Why putting yourself up to a lynchwagon? Or are you just lazy mafia?
On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote: Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.
He was claimed blue he was always going to die first. No one is townier than that.
Thats right if Dp is Town then he would have died this night. Nobody was more Town confirmed then him. But still that would be just an fucking insane play as mafia vigalinte. Is Dp able to do that crazy stuff as mafia??
On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote: Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.
He was claimed blue he was always going to die first. No one is townier than that.
Thats right if Dp is Town then he would have died this night. Nobody was more Town confirmed then him. But still that would be just a fucking insane play as mafia vigalinte. Is Dp able to do that crazy stuff as mafia??
I had a shot from Jake this is confirmed with his flip.
Jake was more confirmed than me.
yeah true. I will go to sleep and filter jake tomorrow
On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote: Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.
He was claimed blue he was always going to die first. No one is townier than that.
Thats right if Dp is Town then he would have died this night. Nobody was more Town confirmed then him. But still that would be just an fucking insane play as mafia vigalinte. Is Dp able to do that crazy stuff as mafia??
Are you calling me mafia here?
not really. Just thougts. More likely to be mafia would be koshi or rels
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote: Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team? That's your best guess?
No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.
If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.
He knew Trfel was town He knew TTS was mafia When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum
So much correct shit in his filter.
finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter. There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious.
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote: Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team? That's your best guess?
No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.
If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.
He knew Trfel was town He knew TTS was mafia When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum
So much correct shit in his filter.
finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter. There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious.
Either he‘s mafia or hookers and coke gives you superpowers
the second part of the sentence doesn´t sound french
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote: As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote: As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost
so working like a RL mayor?
Jealous/Jat/???
go, apes together strong
Koshi/Reels/??? Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures. All for one and one for all. All for one and one for all, united we stand divided we fall.
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote: As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost
so working like a RL mayor?
Jealous/Jat/???
go, apes together strong
Koshi/Reels/??? Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures. All for one and one for all. All for one and one for all, united we stand divided we fall.
You need to reread Koshi. He‘s very unlikely to be mafia after he went bazooka sparklefairy today
Yeah I know, he started to play like he do as Town, but way to late. He looks better since I called him first lazy mafia and people maybe started to filter him. He was at the start calm, tiny reads so it doesn´t get to suspicious. His first 2 days are just not Town Koshi! But as the mayjor wishes I will reread him
Also you tell me I should just reread Koshi. Whats your opinion on Rels? And don´t fucking tell me that he is the the clairvoyant of the Town or some kind of bullshit like this. Give me a fucking real read on him and tell me you are not voting Rels!!
On March 14 2024 09:29 Vivax wrote: Terrible vote if you‘re town btw. Unless Koshi and Palmar are exactly scum with Rels.
why is it terrible vote?! I will reread Koshi as you asked for it, but Rels is a serios fucking scum. I reread Koshi you read Rels. Read him and you will see! He knew the futere. He knew who flip green/red. There is no fucking way that it is possible to see all that things without a diploma from Hogwarts! Or is he the sorting hat?
On March 14 2024 10:02 Vivax wrote: His page 8 bottom with the false alarm thing is good thoug. Hard to fake.
I‘ll stick with Rels town I think.
you can not have a perfect filter as Town. You have to put in some mistakes or dumbtell or some kind of stuff what just happens to Townis. his "false alarm" is something what he could easy fake to make his filter less perfect more Townisch...
On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk?
How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M...
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)
As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia
This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
This posts strikes me as really townie.
Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote: Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk?
How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M...
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)
As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia
This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
This posts strikes me as really townie.
Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote: Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?
I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
On March 07 2024 11:23 Rels wrote: Cake having and pushing her theory that the whole scum team conspired D1 to kill Trfel because they were scared of him is really townie
@Rels: I will finish with this quote. Come back to the light. If it is difficult read your d1 filter.
Yeah ... maybe ... why did she treat VE as confirmed town though ... it doesn't make sense
I didn´t want to vote Ve, because of other reasons. I want that he enjoys playing here. You were in the last obs from the game or? You should know what I am talking about. He is always a early lynch and he is tired of that.
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)
As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia
This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
This posts strikes me as really townie.
Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote: Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?
I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
What post made you change your mind?
as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason
So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)
As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia
This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
This posts strikes me as really townie.
Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote: Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?
I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
What post made you change your mind?
as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason
So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????
There is nothing wrong with it.
Then why is he asking that? You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)
As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia
This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
This posts strikes me as really townie.
Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote: Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?
I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
What post made you change your mind?
as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason
So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????
There is nothing wrong with it.
Then why is he asking that? You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.
I thing you are scum. I call you scum. I vote you!
And really you just try to turn it around and want to find reasons what make me scum? Okey go in my Filter and search, but there is for sure better stuff then this inside!!! What kind of move was that? just because I make Dp and Vivax think about your aligment you getting on me. SEARCH REAL REASONS PLS!!!!!!!!!!
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)
As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia
This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
This posts strikes me as really townie.
Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote: Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?
I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
What post made you change your mind?
as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason
So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????
??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on
I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to?
#7864 You ask why i claimed
#7871 I answer!
#7872 you ask again what made me change my mind
I already wrote it in #7871 it´s standing in the quotes as well.
Sorry should i mark it for you from the quote in comic sans, capslook, pt/front size 5000, underline and make it shine like a rainbow?? this is not a word document sorry pas possible!
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?
I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
What post made you change your mind?
as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason
So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????
There is nothing wrong with it.
Then why is he asking that? You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.
I thing you are scum. I call you scum. I vote you!
And really you just try to turn it around and want to find reasons what make me scum? Okey go in my Filter and search, but there is for sure better stuff then this inside!!! What kind of move was that? just because I make Dp and Vivax think about your aligment you getting on me. SEARCH REAL REASONS PLS!!!!!!!!!!
??? Are you talking to me? I didn't even know you scumread and voted me. Still not caught up Now can you stop defending yourself / trying to imagine why I'm asking quesiton and just answer it?
Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote: Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?
I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
What post made you change your mind?
as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason
So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????
??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on
I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to?
#7864 You ask why i claimed
#7871 I answer!
#7872 you ask again what made me change my mind
I already wrote it in #7871 it´s standing in the quotes as well.
Sorry should i mark it for you from the quote in comic sans, capslook, pt/front size 5000, underline and make it shine like a rainbow?? this is not a word document sorry pas possible!
The "pas possible" made me laugh Don't have enough time if you don't want to cooperate by linking or quoting the post that made you change your mind, will revisit later
I already marked it in the quote when I answerd but of course a mole can´t see it.
On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
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This posts strikes me as really townie.
Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote: Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team? That's your best guess?
No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.
If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.
He knew Trfel was town He knew TTS was mafia When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum
So much correct shit in his filter.
finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter. There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious.
Haha is that why you scumread me, because I've played too well :p At least I wasn't calling VE town yesterday ...
called you already called you scum before just first time that somebody else shares scum thougths about you
On March 14 2024 11:38 iamperfection wrote: A lot of things have bothered me today. Copcake makes a case on Koshi and then just almost instantly drops it just because Jat says thats how koshi plays and then votes palmar. Why does cop just accept as true it confuses me. Meapak_Ziphh comes back after 19 hours says hes too tired to be bothered to do anything but he has found scum? and is somehow not voting????
I keep hearing this idiotic comment that marv said palmar is 90% likely to be town. I get it you guys all worship marv but his word isnt gospel and he very well would probably be saying different things if he was still alive its day 4 now marv died in night 2.
Palmar really bothers me. He calls me scum because i have just been around not doing anything?? Like i said earlier you can say a lot of things about me but not engaged and not in the thick of things is certainly not one of them. I exposed the mason circle and tried to get reads from it. I correctly deduced that Rayn had to be town from the way he used it and almost immediately tried to make him mayor for it. Right or wrong i was screaming at the top of my longs to lynch tryfel it was wrong but so what. I have constantly been directing and calling out actions. I literally hammered VE in a quest for personal glory it backfired so what. To say i have been just around is objectively wrong.
Now palmar says he dosnt really read the thread that he just shows hes around interacts and develops reads. I dont really feel like has done that all in this game. I think if anyone with a quarter of a brain which ill grant palmar he has a quarter of a brain could easily use meta to see i am town. This would be by FAR the largest filter i have ever had as mafia. I would also say i am much less emotional as mafia and much more reserved. My style as town requires me to post a ton and usually in quick succession. Thats why i will have mind melds which happened earlier with marv where we said the same thing. As mafia that is extremely hard for me to replicate. At least for a long period. Also as mafia its very hard for me to long posts like this were i have to fake my thoughts i just have hard time to do it. So those long list posts and posts were i collect my thoughts like i had earlier and this one quite frankly are hard for me to do. I dont think palmar is trying figure out my alignment because he is being bad or more likely just mafia.
Now do i think JAT could possibly be mafia. Yes its possible he had a post earlier where he almost knew that koshi was mafia. {but iamperfection you said earlier that koshi is likely town) well first of all stfu second there is a diffrence between knowing and thinking.
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Man what the fuck.
This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.
And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.
I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.
What a town hero does. Analyse.
I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.
You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.
not the biggest thing but the post bothers me. He also seems a bit apathetic to what is going on.
So yes i think its possible.
MZ's comeback post also bothers me and the fact that he isnt voting despite finding scum
On March 14 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm home, had a shit day so I really don't have the energy to jump into filters right now, especially since I've already found 1 scum at minimum this cycle. I'll hang around the thread and play some league if people want my opinions on anything just ask.
However in my eyes palmar is the most likely mafia.
I may have to reread palmar... I don´t see him as Town but also not that scummy.
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?
I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
What post made you change your mind?
as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason
So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????
??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on
I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to?
#7864 You ask why i claimed
#7871 I answer!
#7872 you ask again what made me change my mind
I already wrote it in #7871 it´s standing in the quotes as well.
Sorry should i mark it for you from the quote in comic sans, capslook, pt/front size 5000, underline and make it shine like a rainbow?? this is not a word document sorry pas possible!
The "pas possible" made me laugh Don't have enough time if you don't want to cooperate by linking or quoting the post that made you change your mind, will revisit later
I already marked it in the quote when I answerd but of course a mole can´t see it.
On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk?
How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M...
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)
As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia
This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
I don't understand how you could write such a long response detailing why it's wrong to claim, but then say the post you were replying to made you chagne your mind anyway I know I shouldn't, but I really hate it. It looks like a reverse logic to me
uhh i think about what people are writing... uhhh thats so bad. like wtf are we talking about here.
this whole conversation has convinced me and yes the post i replied to is part of it
On March 15 2024 09:05 DarthPunk wrote: I’m going to be around until the flip. We can be flexible I want to hear dmbs reads also interested in what was said in the mason chat.
WHY is she asking me in the mason chat that I should lynch her????????
On March 15 2024 09:05 DarthPunk wrote: I’m going to be around until the flip. We can be flexible I want to hear dmbs reads also interested in what was said in the mason chat.
WHY is she asking me in the mason chat that I should lynch her????????
I don’t fucking know. Why don’t you ask her?
She wrote I want to get lynched. Pls, do it. This game is like meh and no fun, nothing enjoybale, nothing friendly
If that is a just tyring to make me think of her as Town with emotinal breakdown, then it´s function very good. I could understand that she feels like this. I mean she has to defend herself since the begining and doesn´t even get lynched I would just hope to get lynched as well in her situation...
On March 15 2024 09:05 DarthPunk wrote: I’m going to be around until the flip. We can be flexible I want to hear dmbs reads also interested in what was said in the mason chat.
WHY is she asking me in the mason chat that I should lynch her????????
I don’t fucking know. Why don’t you ask her?
She wrote I want to get lynched. Pls, do it. This game is like meh and no fun, nothing enjoybale, nothing friendly
If that is a just tyring to make me think of her as Town with emotinal breakdown, then it´s function very good. I could understand that she feels like this. I mean she has to defend herself since the begining and doesn´t even get lynched I would just hope to get lynched as well in her situation...
And when she is actually mafia with palmar. I would totally understand it. I mean playing with this dickhead would frustrate me as well and then fighting the hole time with dp in the thread. Both would take fun and energy away
On March 15 2024 09:05 DarthPunk wrote: I’m going to be around until the flip. We can be flexible I want to hear dmbs reads also interested in what was said in the mason chat.
WHY is she asking me in the mason chat that I should lynch her????????
I don’t fucking know. Why don’t you ask her?
She wrote I want to get lynched. Pls, do it. This game is like meh and no fun, nothing enjoybale, nothing friendly
If that is a just tyring to make me think of her as Town with emotinal breakdown, then it´s function very good. I could understand that she feels like this. I mean she has to defend herself since the begining and doesn´t even get lynched I would just hope to get lynched as well in her situation...
On March 15 2024 09:05 DarthPunk wrote: I’m going to be around until the flip. We can be flexible I want to hear dmbs reads also interested in what was said in the mason chat.
WHY is she asking me in the mason chat that I should lynch her????????
I don’t fucking know. Why don’t you ask her?
She wrote I want to get lynched. Pls, do it. This game is like meh and no fun, nothing enjoybale, nothing friendly
If that is a just tyring to make me think of her as Town with emotinal breakdown, then it´s function very good. I could understand that she feels like this. I mean she has to defend herself since the begining and doesn´t even get lynched I would just hope to get lynched as well in her situation...
And when she is actually mafia with palmar. I would totally understand it. I mean playing with this dickhead would frustrate me as well and then fighting the hole time with dp in the thread. Both would take fun and energy away
wat ?
she is feeling bad in this game. Not friendly, no fun.
No fun maybe because of all the time fighting for her life in the thread mostly because of Dp
not friendly... this can only have something to do with palmar
On March 15 2024 09:05 DarthPunk wrote: I’m going to be around until the flip. We can be flexible I want to hear dmbs reads also interested in what was said in the mason chat.
WHY is she asking me in the mason chat that I should lynch her????????
I don’t fucking know. Why don’t you ask her?
She wrote I want to get lynched. Pls, do it. This game is like meh and no fun, nothing enjoybale, nothing friendly
If that is a just tyring to make me think of her as Town with emotinal breakdown, then it´s function very good. I could understand that she feels like this. I mean she has to defend herself since the begining and doesn´t even get lynched I would just hope to get lynched as well in her situation...
And when she is actually mafia with palmar. I would totally understand it. I mean playing with this dickhead would frustrate me as well and then fighting the hole time with dp in the thread. Both would take fun and energy away
Fighting with me is the most fun though. The thrill of the relentless challenge. Right? Right guys????
On March 15 2024 07:21 Palmar wrote: or even dmb as a punishment for just using the most important day in the game as a great opportunity to fuck right off.
sorry I am homeless but I still have to earn money for my nazi dildo collection
On March 15 2024 09:05 DarthPunk wrote: I’m going to be around until the flip. We can be flexible I want to hear dmbs reads also interested in what was said in the mason chat.
WHY is she asking me in the mason chat that I should lynch her????????
I don’t fucking know. Why don’t you ask her?
She wrote I want to get lynched. Pls, do it. This game is like meh and no fun, nothing enjoybale, nothing friendly
If that is a just tyring to make me think of her as Town with emotinal breakdown, then it´s function very good. I could understand that she feels like this. I mean she has to defend herself since the begining and doesn´t even get lynched I would just hope to get lynched as well in her situation...
And when she is actually mafia with palmar. I would totally understand it. I mean playing with this dickhead would frustrate me as well and then fighting the hole time with dp in the thread. Both would take fun and energy away
wat ?
She's had it with Palmar since he D1 lynched me. But I think she's being sincere.
i dont understand
He is saying dmb is pissed at palmar since last game when he lynched vivax day one.
No that was actually good. I tried to push the vivax wagon and just before the lynch I pretended that we only now realise that vivax is town because there were too few people online to change then lynch
On March 15 2024 09:06 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
WHY is she asking me in the mason chat that I should lynch her????????
I don’t fucking know. Why don’t you ask her?
She wrote I want to get lynched. Pls, do it. This game is like meh and no fun, nothing enjoybale, nothing friendly
If that is a just tyring to make me think of her as Town with emotinal breakdown, then it´s function very good. I could understand that she feels like this. I mean she has to defend herself since the begining and doesn´t even get lynched I would just hope to get lynched as well in her situation...
And when she is actually mafia with palmar. I would totally understand it. I mean playing with this dickhead would frustrate me as well and then fighting the hole time with dp in the thread. Both would take fun and energy away
wat ?
She's had it with Palmar since he D1 lynched me. But I think she's being sincere.
i dont understand
He is saying dmb is pissed at palmar since last game when he lynched vivax day one.
No that was actually good. I tried to push the vivax wagon and just before the lynch I pretended that we only now realise that vivax is town because there were too few people online to change then lynch
then i dont understand what you originally said
Maybe CC feels "not friendly" because she is with palmar togther in a team. When somebody writes she is feeling not friendly here, it has to be Palmar.
On March 15 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote: I'm chasing down dumb shit honestly.
My last attempt was to do an analysis on dmb based on how often she used the word "fucking". Cause I remember her being aggressive last game and much more mellow this one. But turns out she still loves dropping the f-bombs just as much.
Do you say you don´t like me to use the word fuck?? I can change that for you. Would you prefer ego busted dickhead again or something new like self-absorbed douchebag??
Do you really want to make a read based on my swearing here?
On March 15 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote: I'm chasing down dumb shit honestly.
My last attempt was to do an analysis on dmb based on how often she used the word "fucking". Cause I remember her being aggressive last game and much more mellow this one. But turns out she still loves dropping the f-bombs just as much.
Do you say you don´t like me to use the word fuck?? I can change that for you. Would you prefer ego busted dickhead again or something new like self-absorbed douchebag??
Do you really want to make a read based on my swearing here?
Did I miss something? Why so mad at Palmar?
I am always mad at Palmar. But he plays like moron as Town and now as well so I am not sure if I should vote him or fucking not.
On March 15 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote: I'm chasing down dumb shit honestly.
My last attempt was to do an analysis on dmb based on how often she used the word "fucking". Cause I remember her being aggressive last game and much more mellow this one. But turns out she still loves dropping the f-bombs just as much.
Do you say you don´t like me to use the word fuck?? I can change that for you. Would you prefer ego busted dickhead again or something new like self-absorbed douchebag??
Do you really want to make a read based on my swearing here?
Did I miss something? Why so mad at Palmar?
I am always mad at Palmar. But he plays like moron as Town and now as well so I am not sure if I should vote him or fucking not.
On March 15 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote: I'm chasing down dumb shit honestly.
My last attempt was to do an analysis on dmb based on how often she used the word "fucking". Cause I remember her being aggressive last game and much more mellow this one. But turns out she still loves dropping the f-bombs just as much.
Do you say you don´t like me to use the word fuck?? I can change that for you. Would you prefer ego busted dickhead again or something new like self-absorbed douchebag??
Do you really want to make a read based on my swearing here?
Did I miss something? Why so mad at Palmar?
I am always mad at Palmar. But he plays like moron as Town and now as well so I am not sure if I should vote him or fucking not.
On March 15 2024 10:04 iamperfection wrote: maybe we just lynch cake and pick up play next cycle. She has to be dealt with in some way and we will know 100% what happened in ve cop with rels talking to me right near the hammer.
It will clear up the thread and just be good for a purity mindset.
Lets make her wish come true.
I still believe now after the mason that she is just a depressed Townie.
I really feel bad about voting her, while seeing her finally as Town. But she doesn´t fell happy here anymore and she is self voting as well. So what else could we do?
On March 15 2024 10:12 die_meatbaby wrote: I really feel bad about voting her, while seeing her finally as Town. But she doesn´t fell happy here anymore and she is self voting as well. So what else could we do?
Lynch Rels
What good does that do for us? Wasted vote
nobody accept you and Palmar see that scummy clairvoyant
On March 15 2024 10:26 Rels wrote: Hey, I'm finally free. Daughter took a while to sleep, but I could catch up almost everything but the last 2-3 pages on my phone. I have a bunch of posts I want to talk about, to give a summary of my feeling: - Palmar is still scum. Didn't anything that made me change my mind. Him changing his lock town read based on a single post after I switch to him being scum is ridiculous - it's OMGUS. I hate how he's ready to lynch anyone that can be lynched too this phase - if I have the tabs open on my phone I'll post them - JAT is seeing the game 99% like me, with the same posts leading to the same thoughts. The only exception is Palmar - Jealous still didn't post anything that makes me think he could be town, on the contrary, he's awfully calm about being lynched. Would be happy with him being lynched
Ohh the village magician is here! Can you please shuffle the cards and show us what colour Queen CC is? (Before we lynch her)
On March 15 2024 10:32 iamperfection wrote: dmb will you shenany wherever dp goes?
no not whereever he goes but he has a damn good Townread from me so I trust him when I am felling unsure about voting. Trust makes it easy to manipulate me.
On March 15 2024 10:04 iamperfection wrote: maybe we just lynch cake and pick up play next cycle. She has to be dealt with in some way and we will know 100% what happened in ve cop with rels talking to me right near the hammer.
It will clear up the thread and just be good for a purity mindset.
Lets make her wish come true.
I still believe now after the mason that she is just a depressed Townie.
On March 15 2024 10:12 die_meatbaby wrote: I really feel bad about voting her, while seeing her finally as Town. But she doesn´t fell happy here anymore and she is self voting as well. So what else could we do?
Let her be? And vote for your scumread? lol Opportunistic mindset from DMB, following DP/iam
so I should vote you?! like just a wasted single vote on you? How does that help Town?
On March 15 2024 10:04 iamperfection wrote: maybe we just lynch cake and pick up play next cycle. She has to be dealt with in some way and we will know 100% what happened in ve cop with rels talking to me right near the hammer.
It will clear up the thread and just be good for a purity mindset.
Lets make her wish come true.
I still believe now after the mason that she is just a depressed Townie.
On March 15 2024 10:12 die_meatbaby wrote: I really feel bad about voting her, while seeing her finally as Town. But she doesn´t fell happy here anymore and she is self voting as well. So what else could we do?
Let her be? And vote for your scumread? lol Opportunistic mindset from DMB, following DP/iam
so I should vote you?! like just a wasted single vote on you? How does that help Town?
Interesting post. So in your worldview, both Jealous and Palmer are town? There is no good option for a vote?
Yes I Townread Palmar
Jealous is scummy for me but not enough for a vote. Still thinking about rather vote CC (who wished do die in the mason) and hope she is lonly treator and tired of non stop selfdefending instead of depressed town.
On March 15 2024 10:51 Rels wrote: Why is it so fucking hard to lynch Palmar Outside of the dumbtells, I never saw a reason to townread him I don't understand why you townread him so much DP. Can't remember what you wrote in your big list, I remember you listed marv like everybody else but what else?
On March 15 2024 11:16 Rels wrote: Fuck I don't know if I want to push that against you, it's so unfair if you're town. But it's also so EASY! "Yeah she asked me to vote her, a townread of mine, I guess I had no choice even though the opposite wagon is a scumread" ??????? THAT MAKES NO SENSE and yet it feels very very dirty to push it in case I'm wrong
WHAT SHOULD I DO INSTEAD? VOTE YOU WAS NOT AN OPTION!!!!!!!!!!
SHE FELT BAD HERE. SHE DIDN´T WANT TO PLAY WITH ASSHOLES HERE.
she is sad that rayn and marv are already in the obs heaven
I WOULD HAVE VOTE YOU OVER HER ANYTIMES. But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.
Sorry that I can not see the future like you You know fucking everthing. The perfect filter no misslynched always the right votes Not suspect at all...
Are you the speaking hat from harry potter. Pls tell me who flips Gryffindor???
On March 15 2024 11:25 die_meatbaby wrote: I WOULD HAVE VOTE YOU OVER HER ANYTIMES. But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.
Dropping the "CopCake told me" stuff, but this though I don't see it. Can you explain further?
you were not a wagon. Should I just let my vote on you and waste it, when I can make differnce with just one fucking vote? I want and really hope that she will join a future game and if she wish do die then pls fucking let her die before she never joins again for feeling so unhappy in this game. Sorry are you a player controlled by ai bots?? that would explain why you have emotion like a sheldon cooper and the jackpot Filter
On March 15 2024 11:25 die_meatbaby wrote: I WOULD HAVE VOTE YOU OVER HER ANYTIMES. But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.
Dropping the "CopCake told me" stuff, but this though I don't see it. Can you explain further?
you were not a wagon. Should I just let my vote on you and waste it, when I can make differnce with just one fucking vote? I want and really hope that she will join a future game and if she wish do die then pls fucking let her die before she never joins again for feeling so unhappy in this game. Sorry are you a player controlled by ai bots?? that would explain why you have emotion like a sheldon cooper and the jackpot Filter
On March 14 2024 09:22 Jealous wrote: Did a quick dive on Palmar before I have to head out again. Based on D1 alone, I think he basically has to be town. I'll explain my thinking in the form of questions:
1. Would scum!Palmar immediately bus scum!Oats and scum!TTS practically out the gate? 2. Would scum!Palmar go along with town sentiment to elect Vivax mayor instead of what he claims is his preference, which is to lynch him for the claim?
To make an addendum to #2, if we believe what Palmar is saying about wanting to lynch Vivax for the claim, I think the only world in which scum!Palmar simply gives up and lets Vivax have the election without offering resistance is if it's scum!Palmar and scum!Vivax, and if it's scum!Vivax then it basically has to be scum!DP and they bussed TTS. So, I think this is practically impossible. Therefore, I think based on this foundation, scum!Palmar is incredibly unlikely to me at this juncture.
I'll refine further when I get back but this is what I have so far.
Quotes for reference, non-exhaustive list (he makes other posts re: Vivax running for mayor, Oats, etc): + Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote: Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town.
Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?
I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.
You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:10 Palmar wrote: Good morning, I see we're up to a casual 60+ pages.
Where did you wake up from???
It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about?
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
On March 05 2024 10:07 Palmar wrote: If I was less lazy I would basically force everyone into either voting vivax mayor or voting to lynch him. Fencesitting on a blue claim is just bad.
I haven’t read his filter but my instinct is to mayor Vivax.
On March 05 2024 22:31 Palmar wrote: So thoughts on Vivax
1) His claim is dumb as shit and he shouldn't do it as town or mafia. 2) He did claim so we work with what we got 3) He didn't hide behind his claim which points to townie, he posted like 6 pages since that claim, so whatever the point was with his claim at least it wasn't "I'll just claim this and chill" 4) He is actually trying. Now I know I was wrong last game when I lynched him for not trying, but I still think there is merit in that kind of read with Vivax
In conclusion, I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, so I'm just gonna vote him for mayor.
There's also the completely stupid reason that absolutely no one seems to be calling him mafia, [/]and a bunch of people call him town but don't want to vote him as mayor. That's an indicator (admittedly a terrible one) of his sort of general standing within the town. It's like a minor town point.
That solves that problem for me.
I honestly don't feel like I know enough about the game to direct Vivax' lynch. Maybe I'll gather enough info today to help though.
I think, I said, he can do this as mafia.
Oh he can, what Vivax lacks in brains he has in balls.
I just don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is. Like make a case on him if you think this is wrong.
That's a false dichotomy. You don't have to think he is mafia in order to prefer someone else as mayor.
You don't have to, I'm not your mom. But it's still stupid.
Like it or not, by claiming Vivax made the game about himself.
The objectively correct play as town here is to lynch him. That is literally the best play. But we've decided not to do that and I kinda think that's the right call. Essentially we assume Vivax is bad town and not mafia. If that's the case he has a very, very strong power role and we think he's town, so we just make him mayor.
I really can't think of why we would not do one or the other if we're playing logically.
We can always force him to kill whoever we want dead, he's not without responsibility as mayor.
On March 05 2024 23:05 Palmar wrote: Dumbest scumread ever is that TTS just casually assumed he'd be alive by day 4 or something.
Also even talking about a random voting stage like we're some plebeian third world mafia site is pretty scummy.
But he's done nothing so there's no read. Good policy lynch though.
Going further on into D1, Palmar had some good reads. Sheeped Sandro. Outlook positive on VE (did mention they "looked at little worse" eventually though). But, they haven't all been consistent. He pulled back on Oats being bad a bit. He also thought marv was looking scummy, too. So, more of a mixed bag than my early analysis showed.
On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote: This is just random and for post-game purposes.
We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).
1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question 2) TTS - Complete inactivity 3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia 4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why
But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad.
Final list post isn't great, too. Oats is now a TR. So maybe it was fake pressure all along? Still SRing TTS though, but that's not exactly gold-star-worthy play at this point IMO.
On March 07 2024 00:31 Palmar wrote: So like preemptively, I'm trying to come to a conclusion why rayn wouldn't open up my filter and ctrl+f Vivax while shouting in caps at me and I just really can't think of one.
Secondly I already explained to him as confirmed town (last game) how I differ in my approach to people's alignment. I don't tie them together like that.
raynpelikoneet
Nested quote from rayn here about how Palmar's progression on VE was scummy is interesting in retrospect.
Palmar feels like he is just all over the place now, this is what sowing chaos looks like to me, especially given what was said before, especially about sandroba:
On March 07 2024 01:02 Palmar wrote: I think it's possible that marv, rayn and sandroba are mafia (varying degrees of possibility) and I don't care who masoned who.
Still, can't deny that he is pushing hard on the Oats wagon. I think scum!Palmar would be content to be more half-hearted about it and sheep a VE vote relatively quietly when it was gaining momentum. Notable that Koshi was one of the driving forces for the VE lynch, but I'm starting to understand that this is just Koshi things (not that I like it though).
--[b]Intermission--
So far, everything from the mid point to the 3/4 mark of Palmar's filter is just a big fat nothingburger. Granted there was some drunkposting in the middle and I really sympathize with that, but it was almost all entirely lazy one-liners. Definitely "coasting" until some semblance of pressure mounted on him:
On March 12 2024 21:54 justanothertownie wrote: But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy.
Yeah no worries.
It's actually kinda fun.
The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind.
The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly.
Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread.
The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try.
That won't be the case if I'm the target.
Instead what ended up happening is he just posted reasons why others were scum, so it felt like just fulfilled his town!Palmar obligations and went back to relative chill hard mode. I don't think that should be too difficult to do as scum, especially since just about everyone has some unfortunate/wrong/bad-looking stuff in their filters to latch onto, read in the most negative way, or misrep. So, I don't think that his activity today gives him all too many townie points because in the end he is just hopping from one wagon to the next, either as scum or as town for scum.
--"Conclusion"-- I think that Palmar is pretty hard to put a finger on. Did he type a lot of things? Yes. Were some of them good-sounding? Assuredly so. Does he have strong convictions, drive, and does he ever put himself into any significant danger? No.
I haven't had the chance to filter JAT recently so I'll probably do that next while out, but I won't make a post like this. If I had to go off of my overall gut feeling throughout the game, I'd say that they were even more wishy-washy than Palmar, but I don't want to discredit JAT before I actually do the work, so take that with a heavy grain of salt.
When done with JAT's filter, I will just insert them into my current list of scumminess (left is most town, right is most scum):
Iamp > Palmar > Koshi > Cake
DP and Vivax are not present because I am still operating in conftown! world for both of them, similar for DMB but obviously much less so to keep it clean and easy.
PS: It seems I fucked up the bold tags somewhere but fuck it, it's legible.
You don´t post this as mafia. Like come on that is townie under pressure
On March 15 2024 11:25 die_meatbaby wrote: I WOULD HAVE VOTE YOU OVER HER ANYTIMES. But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.
Dropping the "CopCake told me" stuff, but this though I don't see it. Can you explain further?
you were not a wagon. Should I just let my vote on you and waste it, when I can make differnce with just one fucking vote? I want and really hope that she will join a future game and if she wish do die then pls fucking let her die before she never joins again for feeling so unhappy in this game. Sorry are you a player controlled by ai bots?? that would explain why you have emotion like a sheldon cooper and the jackpot Filter
?????????? Can you expand on this sentence?
But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.
Why did you think that? I had the opposite reaction, and I wasn't the only one
He did not ask do die.
Second
On March 15 2024 09:07 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:22 Jealous wrote: Did a quick dive on Palmar before I have to head out again. Based on D1 alone, I think he basically has to be town. I'll explain my thinking in the form of questions:
1. Would scum!Palmar immediately bus scum!Oats and scum!TTS practically out the gate? 2. Would scum!Palmar go along with town sentiment to elect Vivax mayor instead of what he claims is his preference, which is to lynch him for the claim?
To make an addendum to #2, if we believe what Palmar is saying about wanting to lynch Vivax for the claim, I think the only world in which scum!Palmar simply gives up and lets Vivax have the election without offering resistance is if it's scum!Palmar and scum!Vivax, and if it's scum!Vivax then it basically has to be scum!DP and they bussed TTS. So, I think this is practically impossible. Therefore, I think based on this foundation, scum!Palmar is incredibly unlikely to me at this juncture.
I'll refine further when I get back but this is what I have so far.
Quotes for reference, non-exhaustive list (he makes other posts re: Vivax running for mayor, Oats, etc): + Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote: Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town.
Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?
I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.
You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:10 Palmar wrote: Good morning, I see we're up to a casual 60+ pages.
Where did you wake up from???
It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about?
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
On March 05 2024 10:07 Palmar wrote: If I was less lazy I would basically force everyone into either voting vivax mayor or voting to lynch him. Fencesitting on a blue claim is just bad.
I haven’t read his filter but my instinct is to mayor Vivax.
On March 05 2024 22:31 Palmar wrote: So thoughts on Vivax
1) His claim is dumb as shit and he shouldn't do it as town or mafia. 2) He did claim so we work with what we got 3) He didn't hide behind his claim which points to townie, he posted like 6 pages since that claim, so whatever the point was with his claim at least it wasn't "I'll just claim this and chill" 4) He is actually trying. Now I know I was wrong last game when I lynched him for not trying, but I still think there is merit in that kind of read with Vivax
In conclusion, I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, so I'm just gonna vote him for mayor.
There's also the completely stupid reason that absolutely no one seems to be calling him mafia, [/]and a bunch of people call him town but don't want to vote him as mayor. That's an indicator (admittedly a terrible one) of his sort of general standing within the town. It's like a minor town point.
That solves that problem for me.
I honestly don't feel like I know enough about the game to direct Vivax' lynch. Maybe I'll gather enough info today to help though.
I think, I said, he can do this as mafia.
Oh he can, what Vivax lacks in brains he has in balls.
I just don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is. Like make a case on him if you think this is wrong.
That's a false dichotomy. You don't have to think he is mafia in order to prefer someone else as mayor.
You don't have to, I'm not your mom. But it's still stupid.
Like it or not, by claiming Vivax made the game about himself.
The objectively correct play as town here is to lynch him. That is literally the best play. But we've decided not to do that and I kinda think that's the right call. Essentially we assume Vivax is bad town and not mafia. If that's the case he has a very, very strong power role and we think he's town, so we just make him mayor.
I really can't think of why we would not do one or the other if we're playing logically.
We can always force him to kill whoever we want dead, he's not without responsibility as mayor.
On March 05 2024 23:05 Palmar wrote: Dumbest scumread ever is that TTS just casually assumed he'd be alive by day 4 or something.
Also even talking about a random voting stage like we're some plebeian third world mafia site is pretty scummy.
But he's done nothing so there's no read. Good policy lynch though.
Going further on into D1, Palmar had some good reads. Sheeped Sandro. Outlook positive on VE (did mention they "looked at little worse" eventually though). But, they haven't all been consistent. He pulled back on Oats being bad a bit. He also thought marv was looking scummy, too. So, more of a mixed bag than my early analysis showed.
On March 06 2024 06:47 justanothertownie wrote: Uuuh, exciting.
Is it?
I think it is. The post itself is disappointing though. Smells like desperation and OMGUS.
hahaha. Yeah. It's a big nothing burger.
It's a "when I die post"
You can ignore it for now.
I'm going to be so mad if marv is alive by day 4 after this shit.
Like he can lynch me, but he KNOWS he should not be doing that unless he has a really good reason to, which he doesn't.
His lynch list at EOD1 isn't looking too hot:
On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote: This is just random and for post-game purposes.
We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).
1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question 2) TTS - Complete inactivity 3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia 4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why
But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad.
Final list post isn't great, too. Oats is now a TR. So maybe it was fake pressure all along? Still SRing TTS though, but that's not exactly gold-star-worthy play at this point IMO.
But does he bus this hard on D2?
On March 06 2024 19:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 14:21 DarthPunk wrote: Vig shot on TTS btw.
This is a good call.
Wonder what happened to this:
On March 06 2024 19:16 Palmar wrote: I hate pretty much all of your takes CopCake
This didn't age well, feels like a retaliatory SR:
On March 07 2024 00:31 Palmar wrote: So like preemptively, I'm trying to come to a conclusion why rayn wouldn't open up my filter and ctrl+f Vivax while shouting in caps at me and I just really can't think of one.
Secondly I already explained to him as confirmed town (last game) how I differ in my approach to people's alignment. I don't tie them together like that.
raynpelikoneet
Nested quote from rayn here about how Palmar's progression on VE was scummy is interesting in retrospect.
Palmar feels like he is just all over the place now, this is what sowing chaos looks like to me, especially given what was said before, especially about sandroba:
On March 07 2024 01:02 Palmar wrote: I think it's possible that marv, rayn and sandroba are mafia (varying degrees of possibility) and I don't care who masoned who.
Still, can't deny that he is pushing hard on the Oats wagon. I think scum!Palmar would be content to be more half-hearted about it and sheep a VE vote relatively quietly when it was gaining momentum. Notable that Koshi was one of the driving forces for the VE lynch, but I'm starting to understand that this is just Koshi things (not that I like it though).
--[b]Intermission--
So far, everything from the mid point to the 3/4 mark of Palmar's filter is just a big fat nothingburger. Granted there was some drunkposting in the middle and I really sympathize with that, but it was almost all entirely lazy one-liners. Definitely "coasting" until some semblance of pressure mounted on him:
On March 12 2024 22:09 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 21:54 justanothertownie wrote: But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy.
Yeah no worries.
It's actually kinda fun.
The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind.
The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly.
Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread.
The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try.
That won't be the case if I'm the target.
Instead what ended up happening is he just posted reasons why others were scum, so it felt like just fulfilled his town!Palmar obligations and went back to relative chill hard mode. I don't think that should be too difficult to do as scum, especially since just about everyone has some unfortunate/wrong/bad-looking stuff in their filters to latch onto, read in the most negative way, or misrep. So, I don't think that his activity today gives him all too many townie points because in the end he is just hopping from one wagon to the next, either as scum or as town for scum.
--"Conclusion"-- I think that Palmar is pretty hard to put a finger on. Did he type a lot of things? Yes. Were some of them good-sounding? Assuredly so. Does he have strong convictions, drive, and does he ever put himself into any significant danger? No.
I haven't had the chance to filter JAT recently so I'll probably do that next while out, but I won't make a post like this. If I had to go off of my overall gut feeling throughout the game, I'd say that they were even more wishy-washy than Palmar, but I don't want to discredit JAT before I actually do the work, so take that with a heavy grain of salt.
When done with JAT's filter, I will just insert them into my current list of scumminess (left is most town, right is most scum):
Iamp > Palmar > Koshi > Cake
DP and Vivax are not present because I am still operating in conftown! world for both of them, similar for DMB but obviously much less so to keep it clean and easy.
PS: It seems I fucked up the bold tags somewhere but fuck it, it's legible.
You don´t post this as mafia. Like come on that is townie under pressure
Really disagree. Posting a big post under pressure near the deadline is not townie specific
Okey yes then maybe I should have taken this post more seriously and sorry that I didn´t get how scummy that actually was. But I only had one thing on my mind and that is more personally important than J at the moment. This game takes a lot of time, nerves and energy. If you don't enjoy it anymore. No more energy and always on the verge of being lynched but not lynched. If you always have to defend yourself for 30 pages and therefore can't really try to find scum, then it's really depressing. I want Cake to come back in future games and not give up playing here. I just wanted the best for her, even if it wasn't the best for Town. I rather lose as Town as losing a player for ever Hope you're doing better in obs <3
On March 15 2024 11:24 Vivax wrote: Jealous/MZ/Iamp/Palmar/JAT could have them all from the nonvoters when we had 2 or possibly three wagons on mafia at once.
Jat and Palmar together unlikely
Yeah JAT has been so similar to me, the only way he's scum in my mind if is if he's purposefully copying everything I'm saying and pasting it back. Even though he shouldn't be by logic alone, I think he is my strongest townread. I would be like, honored, if he's scum and chose to mimic me. And also would learn from my mistakes for the next game hopefully lol
Maybe you are scum together
Mixing our fake reads in a big pastebin and taking them out when we need them?
It’s the next level of bussing wifom.
Makes sense if you bussed the other half of your team for example.
You just realized that you were wrong all game on CopCake. You were the main cause of that almost mislynch yesterday and actual mislynch today. PLEASE take the time to readjust
So I have been wrong once. Sorry I don’t know everyone’s fucking Alignments.
He is the the Oracle of Delphi. You don´t get prophecies from Apollo like he does. Maybe we should just book a flight to greek and we will know the aligment from everbody like he does
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote: [quote] wow how could have come to such a conclusion
Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.
Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?
i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.
yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?
he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.
Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO
BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves
With Vivax having to be RB though, I guess DP couldn't keep the shot actually. But could have killed the scummiest townie I guess it would have been me lol
If I was mafia, I just don't claim I have the shot at all.
This is just wrong though. JSL would get suspicious.
On March 16 2024 07:42 iamperfection wrote: Jealous if your town couldn't dmb just lurk?
They lynch town either way, CopCake's flip makes me look bad, she got the opportunity to call me scummy to boot, and she wasn't even the one that hammered CopCake. I think it works out pretty well in scum!DMB's favor.
Why should this be good for a scum DMB? I remember sombody was writing that if CC is Town then dmb has to be mafia or either way. I am not sure who wrote that but i think it was palmar. So why should I scumDMB risk such a thing?
The only thing I am seeing here is that people goeing mad again on people with a bad Towngame. Is this the plan because until now it didn´t help us. Lynch Ve because of Bad Town game (and he is known for that) CC playing strange means also bad Towngame and me same as well. Just voting bad Town after bad Town is not what will help us in any fucking way.
Did you filter C? Did you read her last scumreads? What about DP. How sure are we that he is really Town. I mean gunsmith can give the gun to mafia as well and shooting the inactiv mafia to get a hell of a Townread would be insane mafia move but not impossibole for DP. When DP is mafia he plays insane so why not?
Rels is the Endbos of TMI and it seems like nobody fucking cares about that and that pisses me off as hell
Another scumread of CC was Koshi. Did anybody from you maybe reread Koshi? What do we think about that? Is her read good or bad?
On March 14 2024 05:36 iamperfection wrote: And I feel like you just went through koshis filter trying to find any inconsistency possible. Also not explaining why said inconsistency makes koshi mafia
- Koshi says I am unreadable and then says he can read me, then even dares to say he tone reads me. - Koshi is like Oats I need to kill you and then says “yes, I was wrong about Oats” Oats also wanted to mayor Koshi. - He hardcore townreads DP but suspects Jacob??? Even when he claimed gunsmith? He even says “Is jacob even the gunsmith?”
Post #4745 so you can see his reads before
Is Jacob confirmed blue gunsmith? Because I also think he might be mafia. Bit if he is blue that is wrong ofc
Like I said, if he hardcore reads DP as town, why is he questioning jacob? Like if he thinks DP is town, shouldnt he believe Jacob’s claim?
- Many of his decisions are based on dead players: Marv would have liked, Sandro this, Rayn that.
I didnt went with the eyes of: I must find scum in Koshi. I didnt like how he reacted to me being lynched then no then yes. Felt like he was trying to prepare the scenario of “I told you so”, which I know, it will happen because I am VT.
There are more things quoted, and I am phoneposting atm. I dont think I am going to get on the computer because I am tired and almost midnight.
If you think is worth to talk to me please do so. If you think my case is trash ignore me.
fuck why didn´t I see that oats wanted to vote koshi as major
On March 05 2024 02:34 Grackaroni wrote: Day One VoteCount
I did not found him voting Koshi as mayjor as CC told us but he (lynch)vote out of nothing Koshi You look in his filter page 4. There is no reason explained why he votes Koshi. Like really nothing.
On March 05 2024 04:27 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote ##vote koshi
few hours later he posts this and unvote Koshi. Since that time Koshi got a Townread from him. How is this a Townread and what fucking kind of play is this.
On March 05 2024 05:53 Koshi wrote: So I am on page 36 and I am going to call marv mafia. and I am calling sandroba & rayn dummies for pushing the marv is town shit into this thread with literally nothing to back it up.
Fuck your shit.
town!marv is very capable to play this game and get mayor. He would be a good mayor and this game could be easy and fun.
The shit you 3 are doing is horrible and against town wincon. I also play against town wincon on purpose in previous games and marv was the one complaining and saying I shouldn't do it.
Well he is doing just that.
Now what mafia!marv would do this is an entire other story. And a very believable one.
I also dislike sandroba. I probably like rayn but not enough to say he is for sure not mafia. But ok. I can work with him most likely.
I do actually like this post from koshi
And then that:
On March 05 2024 10:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Anyway here’s where I’m at Town: koshi, iamp, rayn Mafia: VE, jacob,
He never explained the Townread on Koshi. But come on thats not a post where you gonna townread somebody or am I really this stupid????
This is by the way all on the same day. Oats filter page 4 and 5 and in between this quotes there are almost no posts or questions. This Townread from Oats on Koshi looks sus for me.
Then I made my list post what was requested by Rels. My list posts are bad and always looks scummy. I still do not know who to make a non sus listpost and I am sorry for that. I will try to figure that out for future games. Rels was co hosting games where I was in and had always the same problem as soon as I had to make a list post i got votes on me. So rels asking for that, maybe remembering that from last games and make me do it. Oats started to make this votedmb shit now.
On March 05 2024 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Thinking about it more, that dmb list is terrible
Town pls tell me that I am not goeing paranoid on Oats filter here!
On March 16 2024 09:35 die_meatbaby wrote: I filterd Cc
On March 13 2024 16:04 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 15:57 DarthPunk wrote: FFS cake are you scum claiming here again.
Like Koshi is your mafia read and you are asking why he was not killed by mafia.
No, the answer here is
Koshi didnt get killed because he is mafia.
Why is it so difficult to understand me?
Do i phrase things weirdly or something?
I am just asking you those questions to see if we go to the same conclusions.
I will filter koshi again but first CC
On March 14 2024 04:46 CopCake wrote: Would be stupid of mafia koshi to push mafia palmar.
On March 14 2024 05:56 CopCake wrote:
On March 14 2024 05:36 iamperfection wrote: And I feel like you just went through koshis filter trying to find any inconsistency possible. Also not explaining why said inconsistency makes koshi mafia
- Koshi says I am unreadable and then says he can read me, then even dares to say he tone reads me. - Koshi is like Oats I need to kill you and then says “yes, I was wrong about Oats” Oats also wanted to mayor Koshi. - He hardcore townreads DP but suspects Jacob??? Even when he claimed gunsmith? He even says “Is jacob even the gunsmith?”
Post #4745 so you can see his reads before
Is Jacob confirmed blue gunsmith? Because I also think he might be mafia. Bit if he is blue that is wrong ofc
Like I said, if he hardcore reads DP as town, why is he questioning jacob? Like if he thinks DP is town, shouldnt he believe Jacob’s claim?
- Many of his decisions are based on dead players: Marv would have liked, Sandro this, Rayn that.
I didnt went with the eyes of: I must find scum in Koshi. I didnt like how he reacted to me being lynched then no then yes. Felt like he was trying to prepare the scenario of “I told you so”, which I know, it will happen because I am VT.
There are more things quoted, and I am phoneposting atm. I dont think I am going to get on the computer because I am tired and almost midnight.
If you think is worth to talk to me please do so. If you think my case is trash ignore me.
fuck why didn´t I see that oats wanted to vote koshi as major
On March 05 2024 02:34 Grackaroni wrote: Day One VoteCount
I did not found him voting Koshi as mayjor as CC told us but he (lynch)vote out of nothing Koshi You look in his filter page 4. There is no reason explained why he votes Koshi. Like really nothing.
On March 05 2024 04:27 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote ##vote koshi
few hours later he posts this and unvote Koshi. Since that time Koshi got a Townread from him. How is this a Townread and what fucking kind of play is this.
On March 05 2024 06:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:53 Koshi wrote: So I am on page 36 and I am going to call marv mafia. and I am calling sandroba & rayn dummies for pushing the marv is town shit into this thread with literally nothing to back it up.
Fuck your shit.
town!marv is very capable to play this game and get mayor. He would be a good mayor and this game could be easy and fun.
The shit you 3 are doing is horrible and against town wincon. I also play against town wincon on purpose in previous games and marv was the one complaining and saying I shouldn't do it.
Well he is doing just that.
Now what mafia!marv would do this is an entire other story. And a very believable one.
I also dislike sandroba. I probably like rayn but not enough to say he is for sure not mafia. But ok. I can work with him most likely.
I do actually like this post from koshi
And then that:
On March 05 2024 10:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Anyway here’s where I’m at Town: koshi, iamp, rayn Mafia: VE, jacob,
He never explained the Townread on Koshi. But come on thats not a post where you gonna townread somebody or am I really this stupid????
This is by the way all on the same day. Oats filter page 4 and 5 and in between this quotes there are almost no posts or questions. This Townread from Oats on Koshi looks sus for me.
Then I made my list post what was requested by Rels. My list posts are bad and always looks scummy. I still do not know who to make a non sus listpost and I am sorry for that. I will try to figure that out for future games. Rels was co hosting games where I was in and had always the same problem as soon as I had to make a list post i got votes on me. So rels asking for that, maybe remembering that from last games and make me do it. Oats started to make this votedmb shit now.
On March 05 2024 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Thinking about it more, that dmb list is terrible
Town pls tell me that I am not goeing paranoid on Oats filter here!
On March 16 2024 07:42 iamperfection wrote: Jealous if your town couldn't dmb just lurk?
They lynch town either way, CopCake's flip makes me look bad, she got the opportunity to call me scummy to boot, and she wasn't even the one that hammered CopCake. I think it works out pretty well in scum!DMB's favor.
Why should this be good for a scum DMB? I remember sombody was writing that if CC is Town then dmb has to be mafia or either way. I am not sure who wrote that but i think it was palmar. So why should I scumDMB risk such a thing?
The only thing I am seeing here is that people goeing mad again on people with a bad Towngame. Is this the plan because until now it didn´t help us. Lynch Ve because of Bad Town game (and he is known for that) CC playing strange means also bad Towngame and me same as well. Just voting bad Town after bad Town is not what will help us in any fucking way.
Did you filter C? Did you read her last scumreads? What about DP. How sure are we that he is really Town. I mean gunsmith can give the gun to mafia as well and shooting the inactiv mafia to get a hell of a Townread would be insane mafia move but not impossibole for DP. When DP is mafia he plays insane so why not?
Rels is the Endbos of TMI and it seems like nobody fucking cares about that and that pisses me off as hell
Another scumread of CC was Koshi. Did anybody from you maybe reread Koshi? What do we think about that? Is her read good or bad?
"Lynch Ve because of Bad Town game" -> who did that? At least I was sure he was scum
"Just voting bad Town after bad Town is not what will help us in any fucking way." -> who fucking voted bad town yesterday though?
"Rels is the Endbos of TMI and it seems like nobody fucking cares about that and that pisses me off as hell" -> nobody cares? You stole that tmi read! At least Palmar and dp thinks the same! It's the only thing you're bringing over and over when talking about me!
Look back in my filter I called you scum before CC and Palmar...
On March 16 2024 09:33 DarthPunk wrote: I think DMB is out of her scum range jealous FWIW.
In other words that is a totally normal read progression for her?
DMB: "I think this post is townie." Someone else: "No, it's scummy." DMB: "Oh you're right, it's scummy."
???
When she was mafia she got 'stuck' on like one scum read only, when she is town, she is very paranoid, and changes reads quickly.
This is a town game from her IMO.
When she was mafia she was very aggressive and very tunnell-y
She's stuck on the same read and same point on me ...
thats because you are my main scum thought I thougt dp is scum then he got town again then slighty chance of scum because of Town CC but still unlikly so Town again I called you and Koshi scum. I tried to read koshi as Town because I believe that our mayjor and dP are town and they asked me to reread him because they think he is not scum. I tried Now I see him again as scum because of Oats filter. your filter is just too perfect for Town. No mistakes. Only safe posts nothing would could show any signs of scum... that drives me crazy. so sorry for calling you scum but you fucking are I am still pretty unsure of Jat both is possible I thought Palmar was scum but now I am pretty sure he is Town
It is really hard to believe that dp with this strong townreads is not getting night killed... When you and and Vivax are mafia togther then this would be the most insane mafia play I have ever seen. But it would be toooo fucking insane to be real, so I don´t believe it...
On March 16 2024 11:43 Vivax wrote: We can do the Oats thing and pretend Jealous is redchecked and lynch him, or we put our balls on the table and hero lynch DP.
On March 16 2024 12:45 Vivax wrote: Three people drunkposted in this game. That‘s gotta be it. Town would instantly lose their last braincells so all the drinkers are mafia.
Should we start do drink as well or even step further with some nazi gangbangs, methballons, dildo drones and some good old Cough syrup from 1940 with a bit of coke in it...
On March 16 2024 11:34 Jealous wrote: Okay so this is where I'm at.
Last Day of Safety DP, Vivax
Wouldn't lynch over the people below Iamp, JAT
Need to revisit: MZ, though this applies to some people below as noted
Lynchable DMB, Koshi (until further filtering)
More lynchable but this game is hard ... and you played well enough at least tbh Palmar, Rels
This guy is so mafia but it‘s hilarious tbh. First he calls Koshi death interesting then adds him to lynchable.
It‘s even worse than Palmar‘s case on dead rayn. At this point he‘s just flaunting around how dumb this town is for not lynching him
Lmao damn that was indeed bad. You'd think scum would know who they NK'd though?
My thinking at the time was "I didn't finish filtering them, should really do my due diligence" (which in retrospect and in context looks bad on me too lol).
On March 16 2024 12:45 Vivax wrote: Three people drunkposted in this game. That‘s gotta be it. Town would instantly lose their last braincells so all the drinkers are mafia.
Should we start do drink as well or even step further with some nazi gangbangs, methballons, dildo drones and some good old Cough syrup from 1940 with a bit of coke in it...
On March 16 2024 12:45 Vivax wrote: Three people drunkposted in this game. That‘s gotta be it. Town would instantly lose their last braincells so all the drinkers are mafia.
Should we start do drink as well or even step further with some nazi gangbangs, methballons, dildo drones and some good old Cough syrup from 1940 with a bit of coke in it...
Stop using the N-word ffs You make it sound more common here than it is
At this rate Austro Gandalf will come from his high tower and censor your posts
The famous balls of the royal rhino from Zimbabwe will save me
On March 17 2024 09:00 Vivax wrote: DMB don't let me down. PLEASE vote this guy with me.
I'll steal the flowers from the terrace if you do.
but the oracale of delphi voted Palmar. Is this another sign from God?
I'll read through the mafia games he just linked first. No vote until then. You and DP don't need to convince me to vote this time. I don't trust you two anymore. DP even less...
what useless games are that? First is one page with pic only Second one is 4 page filter?? Are you scared to link us a good mafia game you played or what??
what useless games are that? First is one page with pic only Second one is 4 page filter?? Are you scared to link us a good mafia game you played or what??
Those are the only two scum games I have, ever.
So you gonna tell me that you didn´t play as scum since 2008 on any page (you now mafiascum, etc,.. is also okey)???? What the fuck should I do with that? Do you at least have a Towngame i can read? Like maybe if it´s possibole not from decades ago.
what useless games are that? First is one page with pic only Second one is 4 page filter?? Are you scared to link us a good mafia game you played or what??
Those are the only two scum games I have, ever.
I have like 6 games total and one on another site from many years ago that I don't remember.
Fun fact, I was the one who invited Cal!x here from that site. Wonder how they are doing, they were good people.
@vivax did you know that he is not as experienced here? I mean playing under 10 games in like a decade means for me not experienced...
what useless games are that? First is one page with pic only Second one is 4 page filter?? Are you scared to link us a good mafia game you played or what??
Those are the only two scum games I have, ever.
So you gonna tell me that you didn´t play as scum since 2008 on any page (you now mafiascum, etc,.. is also okey)???? What the fuck should I do with that? Do you at least have a Towngame i can read? Like maybe if it´s possibole not from decades ago.
Frankly I don't care what you "should" do with anything. Calm down.
These are all my games ever played minus that one that is on some other site from 10 years ago that I don't remember. Starcraft2mafia or something? Anyway, if you are judging me for only playing 8 games of mafia in 16 years, it is what it is.
Of course I judge you for playing this less games....
If Jeouls is just Town playing bad as hell and also in easy lynch means that there are possible 2 mafia voting j right now and 1 on Palmar...
I scared that we have her an insane scum team like Palmar, Rels, DP
More realistic Rels, DP, Jat Rels, Palmar, Jat
On March 17 2024 09:31 Grackaroni wrote: Day Five VoteCount
On March 17 2024 10:46 Jealous wrote: I'm actually curious what die "why are there two nks?!" meatbaby considers "so bad" about my play. This should be good.
On March 17 2024 10:46 Jealous wrote: I'm actually curious what die "why are there two nks?!" meatbaby considers "so bad" about my play. This should be good.
I know I am playing bad.
Not really my question. My question was what you thought was "so bad" about MY play.
On March 16 2024 11:34 Jealous wrote: Okay so this is where I'm at.
Last Day of Safety DP, Vivax
Wouldn't lynch over the people below Iamp, JAT
Need to revisit: MZ, though this applies to some people below as noted
Lynchable DMB, Koshi (until further filtering)
More lynchable but this game is hard ... and you played well enough at least tbh Palmar, Rels
On March 17 2024 10:46 Jealous wrote: I'm actually curious what die "why are there two nks?!" meatbaby considers "so bad" about my play. This should be good.
I know I am playing bad.
Not really my question. My question was what you thought was "so bad" about MY play.
On March 16 2024 11:34 Jealous wrote: Okay so this is where I'm at.
Last Day of Safety DP, Vivax
Wouldn't lynch over the people below Iamp, JAT
Need to revisit: MZ, though this applies to some people below as noted
Lynchable DMB, Koshi (until further filtering)
More lynchable but this game is hard ... and you played well enough at least tbh Palmar, Rels
.............no words needed.........
Ok but pretend I'm a moron who does need words. Are you calling him out for putting you in his lunchable category?
that was posted after koshi´s nk Like come on when you make a list post like this you think about that. this is not a small mistake what happens. Making dead people in a list post who already flipped town...
On March 17 2024 23:45 Vivax wrote: You‘ve got your lynches for three days now and we‘re losing. Koshi is dead. DP isn‘t town
so why are we not voting DP? Feeling strange as fuck that mafia is not killing him after beeing this townconfirmed. Also looking back Dp pushed the Town vs Town lynchs.
On March 18 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote: Jealous what do you think of Rels scumreading TTS first then asking town for a lurker lynch?
So when we would have lynched tts and Rels were the first one scumreading him or just beeing the one who is the reason for lynching scum, then it would have got him Townreads...
TTS was useless for mafia. So pushing a lurker lynch would be okey for mafia also scum dp get a shot and using this to shoot useless mafia to get a hell of a Townreads is insane but insane enough for Dp´s mafia meta as well
On March 18 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote: Jealous what do you think of Rels scumreading TTS first then asking town for a lurker lynch?
So when we would have lynched tts and Rels were the first one scumreading him or just beeing the one who is the reason for lynching scum, then it would have got him Townreads...
TTS was useless for mafia. So pushing a lurker lynch would be okey for mafia also scum dp get a shot and using this to shoot useless mafia to get a hell of a Townreads is insane but insane enough for Dp´s mafia meta as well
Yeah that's the point he might have written TTS instead of lurker if he really scumread him
is it possibole Rels/DP together? who is the third
On March 18 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote: Jealous what do you think of Rels scumreading TTS first then asking town for a lurker lynch?
So when we would have lynched tts and Rels were the first one scumreading him or just beeing the one who is the reason for lynching scum, then it would have got him Townreads...
TTS was useless for mafia. So pushing a lurker lynch would be okey for mafia also scum dp get a shot and using this to shoot useless mafia to get a hell of a Townreads is insane but insane enough for Dp´s mafia meta as well
Yeah that's the point he might have written TTS instead of lurker if he really scumread him
is it possibole Rels/DP together? who is the third
Do you still think Jealous is scum?
I am not sure . this is simular to his towngames, that make me actually think of him as Town but then I don´t see Dp as Town anymore ans I see how he try to help j from the lynch and he wants to push more people on palmar. Thats something I experienced in my last game. When rayn helped me to not get lynched...
On March 18 2024 01:07 Vivax wrote: MZ are you reading this?
I'm reading your absolute insanity right now yes. You are so catastrophically tunneled that nothing you've said for the last few hours has been worth it.
Like why on earth are you asking Jealous why Rels is voting where he is. Ask Rels that. You seem to be setting up these questions that are designed to only scumread Jealous no matter what the answer is. At least Jealous is trying to answer the shit you're asking unlike Palmar who is probably having the time of his life watching you carry his defense this hard. Everything you accused DP of doing for Jealous, you're doing for Palmar at this point.
Yea I think I've already reached my quota of taking abuse from Vivax for today, the last three days have left my gas tank pretty low. Gonna go do actual productive stuff like reading Rels' filter instead of defending myself against a train that will always stay on the same track.
If you get a wagon going on him I'll join it
No fucking way lmfao.
You spend the last several hours screeching about lynching Jealous but if he gets a wagon on Rels you'll join?
Unreal.
What's unreal? I said it yesterday already.
I'm trying to preserve game integrity because it has to be broken if he doesn't get lynched today
On March 18 2024 01:23 Palmar wrote: Btw dmb got to the bottom of my list by being the least effective player in the game.
She has been perfectly happy letting town lynch itself and doing nothing.
She's a noob though. Less than our hundreds of games.
-.- ... but yeah kinda true. But you not seeing dp making his shit Townwagons what we vote all the time and got us to this point makes me depressed or feeling that you are a noob as well
J played 8 games and if you would read his old towngames you could see that he is more likly town here as well.
On March 18 2024 07:57 Palmar wrote: My list stands: from towny to scummy
Palmar DP Vivax iamp jat Rels MZ Jealous DMB
Yes I think DMB may be the scummiest person here.
I am almost certainly giving a shitty townread to a mafia somewhere in there. Despite the concerns regarding iamp it also may just be jat, or even one of the mechanically "confirmed" players. Sadly that probably won't be my job to deal with.
why am I the scummiest person here? I lynched Oats without any more thougts after Slam confirmed him. People here were actually trying to think that he could be miller (very small chance btw) and voted in between on other people and then before lynch back on oats. Like wtf was that. When a cop is telling us that he is scum then we vote him!!!!
On March 18 2024 08:38 Vivax wrote: Ah well. Palmar isn't mafia.
DMB Jealous DP final answer.
Why you changed you read on me?
I think Oats wanted to throw you under the bus
Oats saw the town dmb who plays strange, not playing since decades... and the only chance he had to not getting lynched is to get Town to lynch weak Town... as mafia did anyways thats why VE, CC, maybe even J and me not getting NK. Don´t kill bad Town in the night, better get Town to lynch them... Thats how it worked the hole game. You should seriously try to untunnel J for a moment and make a other team or stay on J maybe you are right. But when you just tunnel him since days and I don´t trust anyother person here then I will not vote on him, because I think you are just tunneld and mafia push the wagon on him because he plays bad as well. Better question on you WHY IS DP STILL ALIVE????????????????????????????????????????????????
On March 18 2024 06:06 Jealous wrote: I think Palmar + DMB could be a thing. I get lynched, DMB has their hands clean because they didn't help ML a townie while effectively saving Palmar with a non-vote.
Can't work out if that makes Vivax impossible as the 3rd or if it's still possible. Don't think it can be DP because DMB has been constantly reminding us that he could be scum who shot TTS for town cred.
If you die and flip town I promise to vote dmb
Why am I fucking scum??? It´s scummy that I voted CC even when I was thinking of her as Town because thats scummy... (And there were a personal reason for that) Now I don´t vote the wagons, because I have the same problem. I don´t think thats possibole scum so I vote Dp and now I am scum again? Wtf should I do that you guys call me fucking Town as I am?? Should I just say oh yes thats scum i vote them and don´t speak out my actuall thoughts on the voting wagons? Or should I just vote myself like town did it in the game?? what the fuck is wrong here? I don´t like the two wagons. I don´t want to vote them. What else should I do?? Should I vote again on somebody were I think he could more likly flip Town?? Is this what you guys want. Because when that is the reason why you scumreading me then you all just stupid noobs regardless of your aligments...
On March 18 2024 09:12 Vivax wrote: But I understand that cracking jokes while I‘m trying to lynch you could come across as the wrong intention.
Yea, I think I would have taken it better if the situation wasn't what it is. I honestly feel better about all this after you made a genuine joke and this post for my sake. Thanks.
Its really good English but it looks so similar to DPs style in certain posts that I think he could have written that.
Either way, what‘s your opinion on Oats‘ scumslip read of DMB ? Don‘t you think he was a bit too sure of himself ?
He is just fucking idiot pushing weak Town. How long you playing this game? Is it you first one??? Should I explain you what fucking mafia did this game and why VE and CC are misslynced... You know why Trfel was misslynced. He plays differnent then the rest of here. Thats why you all scumreading him. Thats why fucking Town lynched Town this hole fucking game.
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.
Oatsmaster
Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m running for mayor
Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.
On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote: [quote] You don’t seem to even want to be mayor
There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".
It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.
VisceraEyes
Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.
But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.
Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.
I have zero interest in lynching VE today.
DMB
So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.
On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM
She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.
She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.
But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.
Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either? Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly
Out of all the posts in the past like 12 hours DMB chooses this one to respond to, fence sits and doesn’t apply any of the bolded section to her list post earlier so where does that thinking even come out?
Normaly i have day off, but somebody is sick and I had to come in fast. Didn't have much time to read. Btw list Was requested by rels. No answer from him atm
So what have you learned from the bolded section?
I have already used a translator 3 times, which means I have learnt 3 new words in English But for real I think the lynch is goeing in a wrong direction
so what are you going to do?
I don´t know, but I will not vote for Trfl right now. I don´t see any majorly scum shit at his filter. He plays like in the last game and he was actually doeing amzing as Town last game. So I would not like to loss him if he is Town. Actually I would like to vote on DP because he seems more scummy for me in this game, but that would be a usless vote... Vote: Justanothertownie
This is very similar to Oats vote actually.
‚I don‘t think Trfel is scum, I‘ll just vote his CW I don‘t have an opinion on‘
Here you have the fucking example I vote on one of the two wagons even when I didn´t like both wagons. But I voted on one of the wagons so my vote is useless. Now I do the fucking opposite and vote my actual fucking scum read and its wrong again. I am sorry that I don´t see the same scum shit as you do. Either you are scum what I still doubt or you are actually big noob. DP pushing both wagons here. I don´t want to vote any wagon he made here. Like it or like it not. Town here is lost as hell and let a scum lead the fucking thread here.
On March 18 2024 01:39 Vivax wrote: DMB why are you ninjavoting DP. For the love of god please stay on Jealous. I can't handle so many betrayals.
I don't want to lynch jealous! Rels or dp... who do you want?
Neither of these lynches are going to happen today, who is the third scum? Why do you ask who vivax wants? It's abundantly clear he wants Jealous.
He is mayjor and he is doeing shit here. He tunnels this man. Tunneling leads to misslynch. I only played 5 games, but i was reading over 20 games for sure and when a townie was tunnel always shit happend
On March 05 2024 20:02 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
Sorry for not having you in my list post. You had like one page on you Filter. You came in the game after like 60 Pages or something. You posted some good one liners that i actually liked. Especially that one that either people should vote Vivax for mayjor or for lynch. That one made think a litte bit about the other players here. I understand that people think the claim is a scum move but why do they not lynch him when they are not voting him as mayjor either? Still it was to less posting from you to make any kind of opinions on your aligment. I can just say I was not suspicious about your few posts just kinda liked them. Atm you are more likely Town for me, but beware, this can change quickly
Out of all the posts in the past like 12 hours DMB chooses this one to respond to, fence sits and doesn’t apply any of the bolded section to her list post earlier so where does that thinking even come out?
Normaly i have day off, but somebody is sick and I had to come in fast. Didn't have much time to read. Btw list Was requested by rels. No answer from him atm
So what have you learned from the bolded section?
I have already used a translator 3 times, which means I have learnt 3 new words in English But for real I think the lynch is goeing in a wrong direction
so what are you going to do?
I don´t know, but I will not vote for Trfl right now. I don´t see any majorly scum shit at his filter. He plays like in the last game and he was actually doeing amzing as Town last game. So I would not like to loss him if he is Town. Actually I would like to vote on DP because he seems more scummy for me in this game, but that would be a usless vote... Vote: Justanothertownie
This is very similar to Oats vote actually.
‚I don‘t think Trfel is scum, I‘ll just vote his CW I don‘t have an opinion on‘
Here you have the fucking example I vote on one of the two wagons even when I didn´t like both wagons. But I voted on one of the wagons so my vote is useless. Now I do the fucking opposite and vote my actual fucking scum read and its wrong again. I am sorry that I don´t see the same scum shit as you do. Either you are scum what I still doubt or you are actually big noob. DP pushing both wagons here. I don´t want to vote any wagon he made here. Like it or like it not. Town here is lost as hell and let a scum lead the fucking thread here.
You‘re panicking. Relax. Listen, why did you vote Jat D1 ?
Like aside from the trfel townread, did you have a single reason to think he was scum ?
No but when I do not use my vote on one of the wagons I am getting a zepplin full of shit from townies. So I had to choose one of the Wagons. Trfel had the best reads about mafia in the last game. So either he had luck or he is actually very good and usefull as Town. Lynch the other wagon or waste my vote. So no I didn´t have a real scum read on Jat but either way I should not waste vote. So what was I suposed to do?!
don´t tell me to relax. Buy my flowers, bake some cookies or eat some tiramisu out of my pussy, maybe then I will relax.
On March 18 2024 09:12 Vivax wrote: But I understand that cracking jokes while I‘m trying to lynch you could come across as the wrong intention.
Yea, I think I would have taken it better if the situation wasn't what it is. I honestly feel better about all this after you made a genuine joke and this post for my sake. Thanks.
Its really good English but it looks so similar to DPs style in certain posts that I think he could have written that.
Either way, what‘s your opinion on Oats‘ scumslip read of DMB ? Don‘t you think he was a bit too sure of himself ?
He is just fucking idiot pushing weak Town. How long you playing this game? Is it you first one??? Should I explain you what fucking mafia did this game and why VE and CC are misslynced... You know why Trfel was misslynced. He plays differnent then the rest of here. Thats why you all scumreading him. Thats why fucking Town lynched Town this hole fucking game.
I know that you are having a moment here but I would like to point out that you only started calling me "weak Town" when you found out how many games I've played. Before that you didn't seem to have any verbalized judgment of my play as being scrubby. Furthermore, I've played with many of the people here before so they know I've been around a long time and I don't think they'd have any reason to assume I'm "noob" until I revealed my game count, which was well into today's push against me. So, I don't think the "kill noob towns" motif makes sense here, it's more like "noob towns look scummy af" and objectively speaking CC and VE both had significant issues with their play that could reasonably lead to a scum read IMO.
On March 18 2024 09:12 Vivax wrote: But I understand that cracking jokes while I‘m trying to lynch you could come across as the wrong intention.
Yea, I think I would have taken it better if the situation wasn't what it is. I honestly feel better about all this after you made a genuine joke and this post for my sake. Thanks.
Its really good English but it looks so similar to DPs style in certain posts that I think he could have written that.
Either way, what‘s your opinion on Oats‘ scumslip read of DMB ? Don‘t you think he was a bit too sure of himself ?
He is just fucking idiot pushing weak Town. How long you playing this game? Is it you first one??? Should I explain you what fucking mafia did this game and why VE and CC are misslynced... You know why Trfel was misslynced. He plays differnent then the rest of here. Thats why you all scumreading him. Thats why fucking Town lynched Town this hole fucking game.
I know that you are having a moment here but I would like to point out that you only started calling me "weak Town" when you found out how many games I've played. Before that you didn't seem to have any verbalized judgment of my play as being scrubby. Furthermore, I've played with many of the people here before so they know I've been around a long time and I don't think they'd have any reason to assume I'm "noob" until I revealed my game count, which was well into today's push against me. So, I don't think the "kill noob towns" motif makes sense here, it's more like "noob towns look scummy af" and objectively speaking CC and VE both had significant issues with their play that could reasonably lead to a scum read IMO.
DP is making Town vs Town lynchs the hole game... most of the time he made all two vote wagons. I don´t trust this man anymore. I don´t vote on his wagons!! Thats the mean reason why I don´t want to vote on you. And I already explaind why I voted CC even I thought of her as Town. But if she wants do die and ask me did that out of desperation because this Town plays here like Garbodor
On March 18 2024 09:12 Vivax wrote: But I understand that cracking jokes while I‘m trying to lynch you could come across as the wrong intention.
Yea, I think I would have taken it better if the situation wasn't what it is. I honestly feel better about all this after you made a genuine joke and this post for my sake. Thanks.
Its really good English but it looks so similar to DPs style in certain posts that I think he could have written that.
Either way, what‘s your opinion on Oats‘ scumslip read of DMB ? Don‘t you think he was a bit too sure of himself ?
He is just fucking idiot pushing weak Town. How long you playing this game? Is it you first one??? Should I explain you what fucking mafia did this game and why VE and CC are misslynced... You know why Trfel was misslynced. He plays differnent then the rest of here. Thats why you all scumreading him. Thats why fucking Town lynched Town this hole fucking game.
I know that you are having a moment here but I would like to point out that you only started calling me "weak Town" when you found out how many games I've played. Before that you didn't seem to have any verbalized judgment of my play as being scrubby. Furthermore, I've played with many of the people here before so they know I've been around a long time and I don't think they'd have any reason to assume I'm "noob" until I revealed my game count, which was well into today's push against me. So, I don't think the "kill noob towns" motif makes sense here, it's more like "noob towns look scummy af" and objectively speaking CC and VE both had significant issues with their play that could reasonably lead to a scum read IMO.
DP is making Town vs Town lynchs the hole game... most of the time he made all two vote wagons. I don´t trust this man anymore. I don´t vote on his wagons!! Thats the mean reason why I don´t want to vote on you. And I already explaind why I voted CC even I thought of her as Town. But if she wants do die and ask me did that out of desperation because this Town plays here like Garbodor
For what it's worth, I support you not voting for either wagon, and not even because I am one of them. I think that people should vote for their read for the most part (obvious exceptions apply, like Oats). I believe the same thing IRL regarding 3rd party candidates.
I voted for oats, because it made sense. A cop reads him... when somebody doesn´t lynch oats directly after that he is either missing brain cells or is scum. I voted JAT over trfel because I really hoped that maybe less people would vote Trfl, because his last Town game was really nice. I voted CC over you because she wished do die. And I will not vote any other DP wagon because this man should already be that from mafia when he would be Town!
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
Pretty much where I've been at
so you all just give up and accept that dp scum is to good with his Town wagons that he pushed and made us vote them?
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL.
Grack already told us he‘s scum either way
great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him.
I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw.
On March 18 2024 10:07 Rels wrote: Finally home, caught up about half way in the way home. Only one comment for now: Vivax you moron, I fucking hammered Jealous yesterday, and you're the only reason he's still alive!
With that out of my chest, carrying on with the catch up
that one is correct our Diamond Joe major behaves like a moron
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL.
Grack already told us he‘s scum either way
great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him.
I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw.
I hope I‘m right. It‘d suck to ML him after copcake I‘d fall into catatonic coma.
On March 18 2024 10:07 Rels wrote: Finally home, caught up about half way in the way home. Only one comment for now: Vivax you moron, I fucking hammered Jealous yesterday, and you're the only reason he's still alive!
With that out of my chest, carrying on with the catch up
that one is correct our Diamond Joe major behaves like a moron
But if I lynch Palmar here and if he flips town, am I unmoroned ?
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL.
Grack already told us he‘s scum either way
great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him.
I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw.
Say the person that literally has the power to save him right there right now Why do you townread Palmar again?
He behaves as the same dickhead as last game. and I refuse do vote on any wagon thats pushed and made by DP
On March 18 2024 10:07 Rels wrote: Finally home, caught up about half way in the way home. Only one comment for now: Vivax you moron, I fucking hammered Jealous yesterday, and you're the only reason he's still alive!
With that out of my chest, carrying on with the catch up
that one is correct our Diamond Joe major behaves like a moron
But if I lynch Palmar here and if he flips town, am I unmoroned ?
did I tell you to lynch palmar? no i didn´t
Tell me the lynch that raises my IQ then
get you fucking as on the pc and put some work in you reads if you are Town
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL.
Grack already told us he‘s scum either way
great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him.
I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw.
I DIDNT PLAY IN THE GAME YOU LINKED
It´s about j´s play not yours He play there Town. Got almost lynched. the reads, the way he make lists, shit mistakes, (drunk posts), its just to simular to his game here.
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL.
Grack already told us he‘s scum either way
great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him.
I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw.
I DIDNT PLAY IN THE GAME YOU LINKED
do you get nervous now while i am voting on you? nobody is voting with me. So sadly you are still alive until the next lynch. read the thread!
On March 18 2024 10:22 Vivax wrote: Jealous can you see dmb/DP/Rels now in this very moment ? We have the technology, we can rebuild you.
I address this here:
On March 18 2024 09:35 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:20 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:15 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:12 Vivax wrote: But I understand that cracking jokes while I‘m trying to lynch you could come across as the wrong intention.
Yea, I think I would have taken it better if the situation wasn't what it is. I honestly feel better about all this after you made a genuine joke and this post for my sake. Thanks.
Its really good English but it looks so similar to DPs style in certain posts that I think he could have written that.
Either way, what‘s your opinion on Oats‘ scumslip read of DMB ? Don‘t you think he was a bit too sure of himself ?
For a long time I thought the opposite tbh. He voted her immediately on D2. According to Slam, it was within 13 seconds of Slam revealing Oats' alignment. To me that feels like it can't be a bus, therefore DMB has to be town. Here comes the WIFOM:
However, Rels introduced reasonable doubt into my thinking process when he pointed out that Oats had cased her for 24 hours. Maybe you and others can help me with the meta read here, but I don't think that is typical for scum: to start bussing with posts/reads and then votes on D1/N1 -> N2.
That being said, in one of my two scum games, I was bussed by HF and scum ended up winning in 3 days because of that IIRC. So, I know it does happen. Furthermore, we know Oats bussed TTS this game.
So, the team would have to be Oats, DMB, and Rels.
The problem with that is that Rels filter until page 22 (where I am at now) has been townie to me, DMB is now defending me and has been playing like CopCake 2.0 and is being defended by you and DP. I feel like this is just chaotic. Furthermore, Rels has been critical of DMB several times and supported others' reads of DMB = scum. Does scum team double bus DMB this way? Do scum!DMB and scum!Rels both make a Palmar lynch a reality by either voting for him or not voting for town!Jealous? FML.
TLDR: I think it may be plausible but it depends on whether this is in character for the parties involved and a more common practice than it feels like it would be. It also has far-reaching and WIFOMy implications.
Like yea, it is plausible. It would have to be well-orchestrated, which is something that I am sure DP and Oats are capable of, and Rels and DMB just have to sheep (no slight against Rels and DMB btw). Rels filter made me believe they are pretty dang town, though, and so does DMB's recent "no DP voting" push. However, not voting for either side of the current lynch pool could just be a great TvT ploy.
he pushed trfel because Trfel is a good Townplayer as I saw in the last game he pushed VE wagon because we looked scummy but he always does he pushed CC wagon because she plays differnt and can not handle the dp discussions for dayss
he go a gun he shoot the non activ mafia, because he is useless anyways, so why not getting townreads for shooting his teammate. Thats insanse but insane enough for a scum DP
On March 18 2024 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote: he pushed trfel because Trfel is a good Townplayer as I saw in the last game he pushed VE wagon because we looked scummy but he always does he pushed CC wagon because she plays differnt and can not handle the dp discussions for dayss
he go a gun he shoot the non activ mafia, because he is useless anyways, so why not getting townreads for shooting his teammate. Thats insanse but insane enough for a scum DP
When did I push the VE wagon?
go find the posts. I was on cake that day.
On March 11 2024 09:26 Grackaroni wrote: Day Three VoteCount
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.
This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.
why do you townread dp so strong? why would he shoot TTS? Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it. Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed how does that make sense?
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.
This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.
why do you townread dp so strong? why would he shoot TTS? Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it. Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed how does that make sense?
I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.
No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.
You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.
why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk. Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch????? How can you not see that DP/Rels
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.
This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.
why do you townread dp so strong? why would he shoot TTS? Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it. Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed how does that make sense?
I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.
No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.
You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.
why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk. Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch????? How can you not see that
because palmar is just a fucking dick of town! DP/Rels
Stop saying that, its not true, I have a better fucking record than the person I am voting for, so why do you not scum read palmar for never voting for scum this game.
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.
This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.
why do you townread dp so strong? why would he shoot TTS? Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it. Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed how does that make sense?
I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.
No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.
You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.
why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk. Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch????? How can you not see that
DP/Rels
Stop saying that, its not true, I have a better fucking record than the person I am voting for, so why do you not scum read palmar for never voting for scum this game.
because palmar is just a fucking dick of town! and I refuse to vote on any of your wagons
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.
This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.
why do you townread dp so strong? why would he shoot TTS? Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it. Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed how does that make sense?
I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.
No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.
You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.
why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk. Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch????? How can you not see that
DP/Rels
Stop saying that, its not true, I have a better fucking record than the person I am voting for, so why do you not scum read palmar for never voting for scum this game.
because palmar is just a fucking dick of town! and I refuse to vote on any of your wagons
vote on dps wagon and you will see it will be another Town...
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.
This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.
why do you townread dp so strong? why would he shoot TTS? Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it. Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed how does that make sense?
I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.
No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.
You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.
why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk. Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch????? How can you not see that
DP/Rels
Stop saying that, its not true, I have a better fucking record than the person I am voting for, so why do you not scum read palmar for never voting for scum this game.
because palmar is just a fucking dick of town! and I refuse to vote on any of your wagons
You're mafia then I guess.
Half the wagons I have pushed haven't even flipped.
you basiclly pushed on everybody
CC had the hardest time here VE trfel
I blame you for that. You shoot you teammate because it make sense. You voted oats because every other vote would be scum as hell Not voting on a cop confirmed red one is scum as hell not other option. So that does not make you town thats makes you scum for me
On March 18 2024 11:12 Rels wrote: Fuck I guess I'll revisit the game tomorrow after sleeping on it Masterfully played if it's still jealous dmb. Not relying on scumreading Palmar
really you still thinking of me and J? you are fucking serious?
It´s over. You and DP are scum and i will vote nobody else expect one of you two!!!!!!!
I am still not sure who the 3rd on is but I will find out. Just first you and fucking dp.
On March 18 2024 11:19 Rels wrote: Blaming the host if we only had 3 blues. At least I have an excuse there lol
It‘s kinda town favoured if we have another lynch… 3 MLs is a lot.
Scum is good. DP and Jealous being on it, Oats trying that hard with a redcheck makes sense.
It's possible that my mind is coping and doesn't want to be 100% wrong, but I m seeing scum explanation for everything dmb did. What's your take on her now? But as said earlier, I'll sleep on it and try to reread some parts of the game tomorrow with fresh eyes. It should be the point when I reread the entire game, but not with 500 pages ...
so I am scum because i did not vote palmar because i saw him just as a usuall dick of town and I didn´t want to vote j because this old towngame of him felt too simular. And now i am scum because I refused to vote any wagon made by dp? wow nice game from you two
On March 18 2024 11:19 Rels wrote: Blaming the host if we only had 3 blues. At least I have an excuse there lol
It‘s kinda town favoured if we have another lynch… 3 MLs is a lot.
Scum is good. DP and Jealous being on it, Oats trying that hard with a redcheck makes sense.
It's possible that my mind is coping and doesn't want to be 100% wrong, but I m seeing scum explanation for everything dmb did. What's your take on her now? But as said earlier, I'll sleep on it and try to reread some parts of the game tomorrow with fresh eyes. It should be the point when I reread the entire game, but not with 500 pages ...
so I am scum because i did not vote palmar because i saw him just as a usuall dick of town and I didn´t want to vote j because this old towngame of him felt too simular. And now i am scum because I refused to vote any wagon made by dp? wow nice game from you two
Nope that would not be why. It's your attitude and sureness
my attitude is the same as that of vivax snake. it changes depending on the situation And I wasn't so sure during the first few lynches whether I was really voting correctly. Now it's just enough for me, you can all townread dp but I'm not doing that anymore. The only right thing I could do now was not to vote any of his wagons. Sorry for getting paranoid for thinking on dp and you as scum!
also good that you voted palmar. Your perfect filter is evaporating...the oracle fails...
On March 18 2024 11:19 Rels wrote: Blaming the host if we only had 3 blues. At least I have an excuse there lol
It‘s kinda town favoured if we have another lynch… 3 MLs is a lot.
Scum is good. DP and Jealous being on it, Oats trying that hard with a redcheck makes sense.
It's possible that my mind is coping and doesn't want to be 100% wrong, but I m seeing scum explanation for everything dmb did. What's your take on her now? But as said earlier, I'll sleep on it and try to reread some parts of the game tomorrow with fresh eyes. It should be the point when I reread the entire game, but not with 500 pages ...
so I am scum because i did not vote palmar because i saw him just as a usuall dick of town and I didn´t want to vote j because this old towngame of him felt too simular. And now i am scum because I refused to vote any wagon made by dp? wow nice game from you two
Nope that would not be why. It's your attitude and sureness
my attitude is the same as that of vivax snake. it changes depending on the situation And I wasn't so sure during the first few lynches whether I was really voting correctly. Now it's just enough for me, you can all townread dp but I'm not doing that anymore. The only right thing I could do now was not to vote any of his wagons. Sorry for getting paranoid for thinking on dp and you as scum!
also good that you voted palmar. Your perfect filter is evaporating...the oracle fails...
On March 18 2024 11:19 Rels wrote: Blaming the host if we only had 3 blues. At least I have an excuse there lol
It‘s kinda town favoured if we have another lynch… 3 MLs is a lot.
Scum is good. DP and Jealous being on it, Oats trying that hard with a redcheck makes sense.
It's possible that my mind is coping and doesn't want to be 100% wrong, but I m seeing scum explanation for everything dmb did. What's your take on her now? But as said earlier, I'll sleep on it and try to reread some parts of the game tomorrow with fresh eyes. It should be the point when I reread the entire game, but not with 500 pages ...
so I am scum because i did not vote palmar because i saw him just as a usuall dick of town and I didn´t want to vote j because this old towngame of him felt too simular. And now i am scum because I refused to vote any wagon made by dp? wow nice game from you two
Nope that would not be why. It's your attitude and sureness
my attitude is the same as that of vivax snake. it changes depending on the situation And I wasn't so sure during the first few lynches whether I was really voting correctly. Now it's just enough for me, you can all townread dp but I'm not doing that anymore. The only right thing I could do now was not to vote any of his wagons. Sorry for getting paranoid for thinking on dp and you as scum!
also good that you voted palmar. Your perfect filter is evaporating...the oracle fails...
Now I guess you'll have to change your reason to scumread me
why? i don´t have to chance the reason. It´s logic. It was too perfect now you had to change it. You are still the oracle of delphi
On March 18 2024 11:45 Vivax wrote: Refuge in audacity stage for mafia here. DP trying to undermine my claim, Rels biting his teeth out. Jealous recovering for a little
On March 18 2024 11:53 DarthPunk wrote: Vivax if you thought I was never going to get lynched today, why did you vote me over your top scumread thereby essentially ensuring that palmar would be lynched and not your top scumread?
That‘s a lie because it wouldn‘t have tied. You should be asking mz that not me.
Mz stayed on his top scum read who was palmar.
You screeched for 12 hours about how no one is not lynching jealous but for two straight phases have directly saved jealous with moving your own vote.
Please explain
should i explain it for you? because even I understand that.
you pushed us do vote on cc!!
the second time he changed his vote on you.
we both felt bad about cc and what you did do her in this game. a vote on dp is a sign of respect for CC
On March 18 2024 12:08 Rels wrote: FUCK well played on the emotional attacks if you're both scum. FUCKING insufferable DID PEOPLE ATTACK YOU LIKE THAT WHEN YOU FUCKING LYNCHED YOUR FUCKING TOWNREAD YESTERDAY? I BACKED off you DMB because I was afraid I was gonna hurt your feelings because of your pity vote on CC. FUCK I was stupid
what you doeing turning the shit around? sorry that I helped CC with her wish do die. After what your emtional dead DP mate made with her
On March 18 2024 12:08 Rels wrote: FUCK well played on the emotional attacks if you're both scum. FUCKING insufferable DID PEOPLE ATTACK YOU LIKE THAT WHEN YOU FUCKING LYNCHED YOUR FUCKING TOWNREAD YESTERDAY? I BACKED off you DMB because I was afraid I was gonna hurt your feelings because of your pity vote on CC. FUCK I was stupid
Just got to bed Rels, not worth getting worked up like this.
On March 18 2024 12:15 DarthPunk wrote: Cake, do me a favor and make a proper case on me, without using associations, just with stuff I have done in this game.
If I am guaranteed mafia, you should be able to make a pretty strong case with my 80 page filter right.
Then I want you to go back and look at all my mafia games from all time.
and find the longest filter I ever had as mafia and compare it to this game.
Then explain how I am mafia through meta.
DP with the cake flashbacks
strg + C, strg + V and forgotte to change the names... you would do better dp
On March 18 2024 12:15 DarthPunk wrote: Cake, do me a favor and make a proper case on me, without using associations, just with stuff I have done in this game.
If I am guaranteed mafia, you should be able to make a pretty strong case with my 80 page filter right.
Then I want you to go back and look at all my mafia games from all time.
and find the longest filter I ever had as mafia and compare it to this game.
On March 18 2024 12:15 DarthPunk wrote: Cake, do me a favor and make a proper case on me, without using associations, just with stuff I have done in this game.
If I am guaranteed mafia, you should be able to make a pretty strong case with my 80 page filter right.
Then I want you to go back and look at all my mafia games from all time.
and find the longest filter I ever had as mafia and compare it to this game.
Then explain how I am mafia through meta.
DP with the cake flashbacks
He traumatised himself while he traumatised her.
Fuck off, I didn't cross a line with cake at all, I am playing the game and thought she was mafia.
On March 18 2024 12:15 DarthPunk wrote: Cake, do me a favor and make a proper case on me, without using associations, just with stuff I have done in this game.
If I am guaranteed mafia, you should be able to make a pretty strong case with my 80 page filter right.
Then I want you to go back and look at all my mafia games from all time.
and find the longest filter I ever had as mafia and compare it to this game.
Then explain how I am mafia through meta.
DP with the cake flashbacks
He traumatised himself while he traumatised her.
Fuck off, I didn't cross a line with cake at all, I am playing the game and thought she was mafia.
are you a bad loser?
No, you said I traumatized cake which is a serious and unfounded allegation.
So I am telling you to fuck right off with that bullshit.
I am happy to play hard in the game, but when you bring that shit into it you cross a line.
Okey traumatized is not what you did sorry. It is still just a game. But you were still goeing hard on her in this game and it is also our fault because nobody helped her...
If anyone votes outside these three after this lynch then we can agree the game was rigged.
I am just sorry for grack he will get so much shit from dp for that gif
Honestly think this whole narrative is stupid. Most penguins are dark. Adding "dark" to it doesn't really make sense in context, and we have two players whose names start with a "P" in the game.
Starting to think there must be something in the water in Austria, and frankly I'm envious of all the free acid y'all must be getting.
the freshly melted water of the melting gletscher is delicious and refreshingly chalky, may my plant based smoking sticks give me great visibility
If anyone votes outside these three after this lynch then we can agree the game was rigged.
I am just sorry for grack he will get so much shit from dp for that gif
Honestly think this whole narrative is stupid. Most penguins are dark. Adding "dark" to it doesn't really make sense in context, and we have two players whose names start with a "P" in the game.
Starting to think there must be something in the water in Austria, and frankly I'm envious of all the free acid y'all must be getting.
the freshly melted water of the melting gletscher is delicious and refreshingly chalky, may my plant based smoking sticks give me great visibility
oh and just to calm people down here. The gif has nothing to do with my reads. I just think it´s funny
On March 19 2024 10:40 DarthPunk wrote: We need to establish townies and just roll the dice here, if we are all town fighting with ourselves and blaming for the mess we are in while Jealous and DMB are fucking preening about their impending victory we can never win here.
those are the two lynches before 2-1 LYLO imo.
then there should be enough spew to find the last mafia.
Jealous is scum, but with you and Rels! If I get nk pls Town do the right thing and vote for them.
On March 19 2024 10:45 Rels wrote: I'm onboard with the all in on Jealous tomorrow
it puts dmb in an uncomfortable position too, cause she scum reading him this night, but she also town read him and saved him twice, and I don't think she will want to vote him tomorrow either.
Ohh fuck I will vote you or him or Rels. Who ever want do die first from you guys can tell us directly.
On March 19 2024 10:59 Jealous wrote: Name two people who spent most of the last day cycle saying that DMB isn't on the table and is beyond judgment/analysis. Only for DMB to be AFK for most of it and then go absolutely crazy just before and after flip.
On March 19 2024 11:15 Rels wrote: I relate to that Jealous post I think I want to go with DMB today, as stupid as letting Jealous live for a 3rd day in a row looks like
first day yeah was kinda dumb bad I wanted to vote CC sorry second day I didn´t want to vote on any wagon pushed by DP third day he will fucking die!
you and Dp voting on Palmar and J changing with me do DP means is smart so not all 3 mafia are voting the same town!!! Now I know who is fucking scum and I will not let you live anylonger. I swear that one. You fooled me now for days but killing my amore is one to much! I will get you! I will vote you all!
On March 19 2024 11:15 Rels wrote: I relate to that Jealous post I think I want to go with DMB today, as stupid as letting Jealous live for a 3rd day in a row looks like
first day yeah was kinda dumb bad I wanted to vote CC sorry second day I didn´t want to vote on any wagon pushed by DP third day he will fucking die!
you and Dp voting on Palmar and J changing with me do DP means is smart so not all 3 mafia are voting the same town!!! Now I know who is fucking scum and I will not let you live anylonger. I swear that one. You fooled me now for days but killing my amore is one to much! I will get you! I will vote you all!
who is "you" in "you fooled me"?
you you you DP, Rels , j thats you all scumteam you fooled that town to lynch weak player you fooled that town to lynch one of the wagons you guys pushed. It´s over. This Town can lynch me and choose to lose of voting another wagon pushed by Dp or lynch J as we should have done it in the last lynchs
I ruined the lynch yesterday because of my paranoia I had to vote on any wagons pushed by Dp but now i am sure we were on the right lynch and I am sorry for that but I just got sick of all this wagons that DP pushed that we voted and were just Town
Not Voting (3): Meapak_Ziphh, Justanothertownie, iamperfection
With 3 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Thursday, Mar 21 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Looks like mafia already voting me out.
But it´s okey if I am dying and we lose here. At least I still found the mafia team and I am happy about it. If the rest of Town don´t want to vote with me then I guess it´s okey and understandebul but pls I hope in any future game you will rember you misslynch dmbtown and lost the game for lynchen the 3rd time weak/bad Town.
On March 19 2024 11:28 die_meatbaby wrote: I ruined the lynch yesterday because of my paranoia I had to vote on any wagons pushed by Dp but now i am sure we were on the right lynch and I am sorry for that but I just got sick of all this wagons that DP pushed that we voted and were just Town
Thats not why you had him as town though, you had him as town the previous day too.
And you used meta to justify that read, so what happened with that?
You had a vote on J as well Where did your scum read of him go?
The game is over anyway. Mafia is bussing the last weak town. The rest of Town doesn´t see that DP and Rels are scum togther. Maybe I was wrong with j maybe not. I am stil sure its either Dp/Rels/J or DP/Rels/JAT Whatever, I don´t want to discuss here anymore how this scum just kills strong town in the night and mafia make wagons on weak Town as they did already on VE, CC and now of course me. I am happy that I found out who is the main scum and thats what matter for me. I can not change the lynch and I don´t want to invest more energy in this game anymore We would have to make 3 correct lynchs, but that will not happen anyway. I can not get trough this with this kind of Townplayers who are left.
And I dare you do never call me bad Town in the next game again if I was the first one realising that Rels/DP are scum togther and no one accept vivax believed me. Never ever are you guys allowed to call me fucking bad Town in any future game because I did not play any bad in this game, just this Townplayers are all so fucking noobs that I can´t believe that this is actually real.
This lynchs seems more like the Putin election 2024
Please tick the box of your choice [ ]Wladimir Putin [ ] Putin Wladmir [x] I want to go to prison or/and die
Lynch votes in this game Pls Vote: [ ] Town [ ] Town [x] scum but no body will vote and you get lynced next
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
On March 20 2024 04:39 die_meatbaby wrote: ##Unvote J ##Vote DP
The game is over anyway. Mafia is bussing the last weak town. The rest of Town doesn´t see that DP and Rels are scum togther. Maybe I was wrong with j maybe not. I am stil sure its either Dp/Rels/J or DP/Rels/JAT Whatever, I don´t want to discuss here anymore how this scum just kills strong town in the night and mafia make wagons on weak Town as they did already on VE, CC and now of course me. I am happy that I found out who is the main scum and thats what matter for me. I can not change the lynch and I don´t want to invest more energy in this game anymore We would have to make 3 correct lynchs, but that will not happen anyway. I can not get trough this with this kind of Townplayers who are left.
And I dare you do never call me bad Town in the next game again if I was the first one realising that Rels/DP are scum togther and no one accept vivax believed me. Never ever are you guys allowed to call me fucking bad Town in any future game because I did not play any bad in this game, just this Townplayers are all so fucking noobs that I can´t believe that this is actually real.
This lynchs seems more like the Putin election 2024
Please tick the box of your choice [ ]Wladimir Putin [ ] Putin Wladmir [x] I want to go to prison or/and die
Lynch votes in this game Pls Vote: [ ] Town [ ] Town [x] scum but no body will vote and you get lynced next
I mean, the reason you are being lynched is because you are objectively playing bad town, in other words scummy... That doesn't change if one of your reads was right.
Friendly reminder that you voted to lynch CopCake twice yourself, too.
Furthermore, DP protected you from even being discussed yesterday. You seemed to be quite content to do absolutely nothing for most of the day until the last few hours after that. What do you make of that?
I was against the VE lynch. He should have lived longer. Second vote on her was only her wish
On March 20 2024 04:39 die_meatbaby wrote: ##Unvote J ##Vote DP
The game is over anyway. Mafia is bussing the last weak town. The rest of Town doesn´t see that DP and Rels are scum togther. Maybe I was wrong with j maybe not. I am stil sure its either Dp/Rels/J or DP/Rels/JAT Whatever, I don´t want to discuss here anymore how this scum just kills strong town in the night and mafia make wagons on weak Town as they did already on VE, CC and now of course me. I am happy that I found out who is the main scum and thats what matter for me. I can not change the lynch and I don´t want to invest more energy in this game anymore We would have to make 3 correct lynchs, but that will not happen anyway. I can not get trough this with this kind of Townplayers who are left.
And I dare you do never call me bad Town in the next game again if I was the first one realising that Rels/DP are scum togther and no one accept vivax believed me. Never ever are you guys allowed to call me fucking bad Town in any future game because I did not play any bad in this game, just this Townplayers are all so fucking noobs that I can´t believe that this is actually real.
This lynchs seems more like the Putin election 2024
Please tick the box of your choice [ ]Wladimir Putin [ ] Putin Wladmir [x] I want to go to prison or/and die
Lynch votes in this game Pls Vote: [ ] Town [ ] Town [x] scum but no body will vote and you get lynced next
I mean, the reason you are being lynched is because you are objectively playing bad town, in other words scummy... That doesn't change if one of your reads was right.
Friendly reminder that you voted to lynch CopCake twice yourself, too.
Furthermore, DP protected you from even being discussed yesterday. You seemed to be quite content to do absolutely nothing for most of the day until the last few hours after that. What do you make of that?
I worked until 12 am (europe time zone) thats 3 hours before lynch. I am working until late night. I even closed earlier so I could play more here, before the lynch happend
On March 20 2024 04:48 iamperfection wrote: Kind of funny how she calls herself weak town but don't you dare call her weak town.
I am weak town because it´s hard for me to defand myself
but i was insane good for finding out DP and Rels are scum
Having good reads is only half the battle. That's is even if your read is right.
Vivax was the only one realising that I am not wrong with my reads. Anyways I can not lead this Town to vote the correct lynch 3x times in a row. So it´s okey if I lose as Town but I won for myself when I finally get know that I was right so fucking right...
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
"I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch"
Then why did you call me scum right after the Palmar flip?
Answer this.
behavier. but could also be JAT after looking at the votes back on oats
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
"I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch"
Then why did you call me scum right after the Palmar flip?
Answer this.
behavier. but could also be JAT after looking at the votes back on oats
Behavior?
There was no logical reason that he swapped his vote on Dp with me. Thinking of his situation it would be better to stick on Palmar and save himself... But it would make more sense to have the vote on dp so that not all 3 scum a voting the same person.
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
"I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch"
Then why did you call me scum right after the Palmar flip?
Answer this.
behavier. but could also be JAT after looking at the votes back on oats
Behavior?
There was no logical reason that he swapped his vote on Dp with me. Thinking of his situation it would be better to stick on Palmar and save himself... But it would make more sense to have the vote on dp so that not all 3 scum a voting the same person.
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
"I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch"
Then why did you call me scum right after the Palmar flip?
Answer this.
behavier. but could also be JAT after looking at the votes back on oats
Behavior?
There was no logical reason that he swapped his vote on Dp with me. Thinking of his situation it would be better to stick on Palmar and save himself... But it would make more sense to have the vote on dp so that not all 3 scum a voting the same person.
and the meme
maybe the meme doesn't have the impact we think it does. Maybe it's a provocation for town that we didn't lynch him again
I'm sorry I forgot that we have a tradition in this game of Town voting themselves, but I'm not that weak. I'd rather die as the only vote on dp before I give up just because no one else realises who is mafia here
On March 20 2024 05:06 iamperfection wrote: Why did you vote Jealous immediately at start of day?
because of his voting switch
[QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
[QUOTE] There was no logical reason that he swapped his vote on Dp with me. Thinking of his situation it would be better to stick on Palmar and save himself... But it would make more sense to have the vote on dp so that not all 3 scum a voting the same person.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:12 iamperfection wrote: [QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:09 die_meatbaby wrote: [QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:06 iamperfection wrote: Why did you vote Jealous immediately at start of day?[/QUOTE] because of his voting switch
[QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
[QUOTE] There was no logical reason that he swapped his vote on Dp with me. Thinking of his situation it would be better to stick on Palmar and save himself... But it would make more sense to have the vote on dp so that not all 3 scum a voting the same person.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] I don't understand so he's scum because he didn't risk self preservation.[/QUOTE]
Yeah thats what I was thought and still kinda think why he could be scum. I just assume it´s 100 % dp and Rels togther the 3rd person is either him or Jat. But if you all still think of dp and rels as Town. I will just accept my death, the end of the game, that town lost and congratulation on dp and Rels for getting so many Town wagons to a lynch 80 page scum filter amazing but not for dp.
On March 20 2024 05:06 iamperfection wrote: Why did you vote Jealous immediately at start of day?
Just about to ask this myself, kinda feels like she's opportunistically trying to vote whoever she thinks others will follow her on. Vivax had jealous lined up last night, maybe she thought more would bite, I was certainly leaning that way initially.
And now the DP vote since that got traction yesterday.
Won't be surprised if she tries Rels later. The trick is going to be figuring out if she's bussing or just trying to throw us off her teammates for tomorrow.
I still think Jealous is a reasonable teammate for her to have, one of the only ways yesterday makes sense.
Eh I don't think dmb would think that for either alignment.
yes ...
Btw why would i push vivax to major on the day1 when i would know that he is possible JK?
'm pretty sure that vivax would be one of the first to find out that I'm mafia if I were. He would have to die pretty quickly for me to stay safe. Would not push him to get major
On March 20 2024 05:22 die_meatbaby wrote: 'm pretty sure that vivax would be one of the first to find out that I'm mafia if I were. He would have to die pretty quickly for me to stay safe. Would not push him to get major
He was literally wrong in the last game in the obs and called me an idiot for saying you were.
yeah I tricked him im RL so he believed I was Town because something what happend out of the game I faked a reaction to a nk and he got mad on me because now he "know my aligment"... even when I am out of the game I don´t want to know... blabla.. tricked him. Before that he thought I was mafia
On March 20 2024 05:21 justanothertownie wrote: DMB, can you please explain to me why you think Rels is mafia. Just pretend I was some outside spectator who did not read a single page of this game.
Look at the voting filter. He always voted the right person, his filter is perfect. Am I fucking wrong to get paranoid about such a perfect filter. If you are town you just fucking write you opinion and there is always a wrong thougt and a wrong vote included as Town. The filter was to perfect to be Town. Reading the filter is like talking to a clairvoyant. Then the thread got attention to his TMI Filter so he voted on Town Palmar to not look like a oracle of delphi anymore.
On March 20 2024 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: I really think it would be a lot more productive and helpful if you reasoned out your read on Rels and Jealous a bit, dmb. Probably even DP. So far I just see: "I know they are mafia". Which is not very convincing to people who don't know that.
Okey so I write it again and again and again. TTS looked scummy even with just his few posts. Was not playing and usless for mafia anyway DP getting the gun and knows shooting his usless non activ mafia mate for townreads would be the best way to get townpoints DP pushing us all the time to vote on Town (seems like nobody cares about that) DP and Rels did not really communicate or talk about each other in the thread until i called the scum togther. DP is not town. No fucking way.
Rels has licked the hand of the seer´s to get such good information and never made any mistakes here. No voting mistakes no writing mistakes... first mistake was palmar. Happend after the thread got attention...
J. Says koshi is scum after koshi got nk....wtf... how the fuck?
The voting switch triggers me still in my head. Doesn´t make him Town for me.
On March 20 2024 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: I really think it would be a lot more productive and helpful if you reasoned out your read on Rels and Jealous a bit, dmb. Probably even DP. So far I just see: "I know they are mafia". Which is not very convincing to people who don't know that.
Okey so I write it again and again and again. TTS looked scummy even with just his few posts. Was not playing and usless for mafia anyway DP getting the gun and knows shooting his usless non activ mafia mate for townreads would be the best way to get townpoints DP pushing us all the time to vote on Town (seems like nobody cares about that) DP and Rels did not really communicate or talk about each other in the thread until i called the scum togther. DP is not town. No fucking way.
Rels has licked the hand of the seer´s to get such good information and never made any mistakes here. No voting mistakes no writing mistakes... first mistake was palmar. Happend after the thread got attention...
J. Says koshi is scum after koshi got nk....wtf... how the fuck?
The voting switch triggers me still in my head. Doesn´t make him Town for me.
I repeat - Rels voted me day1. He also hammered VE together with Iamp. Wtf are you even smoking. I get the DP thing - that is fine. But your Rels read is just lazy. I don't buy it. Is the Koshi thing the only reason you think jealous is mafia?
you want a better read on rels i give you one after you give me a read on me!
when you are town why you don´t see that dp shit? why you think I am scum? Why you actually trusting another wagon pushed mainly by dp? Why you don´t see what kinda shit is happening here for Town? Make a case on me. Tell me why you really voting me and I take my time to make a case on Rels. Because now it´s just useless I will die anyway and we lose this game as Town, because some kangroo is jumping 24/7 in this thread around and let us vote (bad)town after (bad)town after town
On March 20 2024 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: I really think it would be a lot more productive and helpful if you reasoned out your read on Rels and Jealous a bit, dmb. Probably even DP. So far I just see: "I know they are mafia". Which is not very convincing to people who don't know that.
Okey so I write it again and again and again. TTS looked scummy even with just his few posts. Was not playing and usless for mafia anyway DP getting the gun and knows shooting his usless non activ mafia mate for townreads would be the best way to get townpoints DP pushing us all the time to vote on Town (seems like nobody cares about that) DP and Rels did not really communicate or talk about each other in the thread until i called the scum togther. DP is not town. No fucking way.
Rels has licked the hand of the seer´s to get such good information and never made any mistakes here. No voting mistakes no writing mistakes... first mistake was palmar. Happend after the thread got attention...
J. Says koshi is scum after koshi got nk....wtf... how the fuck?
The voting switch triggers me still in my head. Doesn´t make him Town for me.
I repeat - Rels voted me day1. He also hammered VE together with Iamp. Wtf are you even smoking. I get the DP thing - that is fine. But your Rels read is just lazy. I don't buy it. Is the Koshi thing the only reason you think jealous is mafia?
[QUOTE]On March 06 2024 11:58 Grackaroni wrote: Day One VoteCount
[blue]With 8 votes, Trfel is currently set to be lynched!
Let me know if you see any votes misplaced
The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in yeah you right was the other way arround all day on TTS and then 1 hour before lynch changed to JAT after it was clear the most likley Trfel gets lynched. So he is not involved in the first misslynch
On March 20 2024 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: I really think it would be a lot more productive and helpful if you reasoned out your read on Rels and Jealous a bit, dmb. Probably even DP. So far I just see: "I know they are mafia". Which is not very convincing to people who don't know that.
Okey so I write it again and again and again. TTS looked scummy even with just his few posts. Was not playing and usless for mafia anyway DP getting the gun and knows shooting his usless non activ mafia mate for townreads would be the best way to get townpoints DP pushing us all the time to vote on Town (seems like nobody cares about that) DP and Rels did not really communicate or talk about each other in the thread until i called the scum togther. DP is not town. No fucking way.
Rels has licked the hand of the seer´s to get such good information and never made any mistakes here. No voting mistakes no writing mistakes... first mistake was palmar. Happend after the thread got attention...
J. Says koshi is scum after koshi got nk....wtf... how the fuck?
The voting switch triggers me still in my head. Doesn´t make him Town for me.
I repeat - Rels voted me day1. He also hammered VE together with Iamp. Wtf are you even smoking. I get the DP thing - that is fine. But your Rels read is just lazy. I don't buy it. Is the Koshi thing the only reason you think jealous is mafia?
you want a better read on rels i give you one after you give me a read on me!
when you are town why you don´t see that dp shit? why you think I am scum? Why you actually trusting another wagon pushed mainly by dp? Why you don´t see what kinda shit is happening here for Town? Make a case on me. Tell me why you really voting me and I take my time to make a case on Rels. Because now it´s just useless I will die anyway and we lose this game as Town, because some kangroo is jumping 24/7 in this thread around and let us vote (bad)town after (bad)town after town
I see the "dp shit". He has not died so far and pushed mislynches. He could be mafia. But to be fair if he did not shoot mafia he could have won already if that was the case. And there is only one nightkill who he realistically should have been killed instead. That is Koshi.
I think you are mafia because Oats thought you scumslipped, because you lynched CC while overexplaining and because you ensured Palmars death while your supposed scumread Jealous was his counterwagon.
Your wagon is not mainly pushed by dp at all. He shielded you the last 2 days.
Oats pushed the scummiest Town that exists at that moment. For good sake how long do you play this game? He got a red check the only way he could maybe get saved is to make a case on the scmmiest looking town that was me for my lazy list post i made (requested by Rels... he knew my list post always give me scumreads....)
CC wanted to die and I accept her wish and was stupid anoth to still listing do dp
then I was getting completely paranoid about dp so I wouldn´t vote any wagon pushed by him. Not Palmar Not J. J switching to DP still doesn´t make sense for me. Because he should have just stayed on Palmar to not lose... because either way the wagons were all kinda close with the same vote amounts.
I thougts of Palmar as town and didn´t vote.
And here you have the fucking unlogical that vote make you scum example CC and VE. I didn´t like both wagons voted still for one of the wagons so my vote is not useless or scummy looking. What happpend? I got called scum for that.
Other lynch. Same situation I don´t like the main wagons. I vote somebody else
IT MAKE ME FUCKING SCUM AGAIN
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
THE HELL SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YOU ALL WANT FROM THIS SHIT RUSSIAN DICTURE LYNCHS?????????
Do you seriously expect me to have the same opinions, do the same reads as you and convince myself that one of the wagons is fucking scum even if I don't believe it????????
On March 20 2024 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: I really think it would be a lot more productive and helpful if you reasoned out your read on Rels and Jealous a bit, dmb. Probably even DP. So far I just see: "I know they are mafia". Which is not very convincing to people who don't know that.
Okey so I write it again and again and again. TTS looked scummy even with just his few posts. Was not playing and usless for mafia anyway DP getting the gun and knows shooting his usless non activ mafia mate for townreads would be the best way to get townpoints DP pushing us all the time to vote on Town (seems like nobody cares about that) DP and Rels did not really communicate or talk about each other in the thread until i called the scum togther. DP is not town. No fucking way.
Rels has licked the hand of the seer´s to get such good information and never made any mistakes here. No voting mistakes no writing mistakes... first mistake was palmar. Happend after the thread got attention...
J. Says koshi is scum after koshi got nk....wtf... how the fuck?
The voting switch triggers me still in my head. Doesn´t make him Town for me.
I repeat - Rels voted me day1. He also hammered VE together with Iamp. Wtf are you even smoking. I get the DP thing - that is fine. But your Rels read is just lazy. I don't buy it. Is the Koshi thing the only reason you think jealous is mafia?
you want a better read on rels i give you one after you give me a read on me!
when you are town why you don´t see that dp shit? why you think I am scum? Why you actually trusting another wagon pushed mainly by dp? Why you don´t see what kinda shit is happening here for Town? Make a case on me. Tell me why you really voting me and I take my time to make a case on Rels. Because now it´s just useless I will die anyway and we lose this game as Town, because some kangroo is jumping 24/7 in this thread around and let us vote (bad)town after (bad)town after town
I see the "dp shit". He has not died so far and pushed mislynches. He could be mafia. But to be fair if he did not shoot mafia he could have won already if that was the case. And there is only one nightkill who he realistically should have been killed instead. That is Koshi.
I think you are mafia because Oats thought you scumslipped, because you lynched CC while overexplaining and because you ensured Palmars death while your supposed scumread Jealous was his counterwagon.
Your wagon is not mainly pushed by dp at all. He shielded you the last 2 days.
Oats pushed the scummiest Town that exists at that moment. For good sake how long do you play this game? He got a red check the only way he could maybe get saved is to make a case on the scmmiest looking town that was me for my lazy list post i made (requested by Rels... he knew my list post always give me scumreads....)
CC wanted to die and I accept her wish and was stupid anoth to still listing do dp
then I was getting completely paranoid about dp so I wouldn´t vote any wagon pushed by him. Not Palmar Not J. J switching to DP still doesn´t make sense for me. Because he should have just stayed on Palmar to not lose... because either way the wagons were all kinda close with the same vote amounts.
I thougts of Palmar as town and didn´t vote.
And here you have the fucking unlogical that vote make you scum example CC and VE. I didn´t like both wagons voted still for one of the wagons so my vote is not useless or scummy looking. What happpend? I got called scum for that.
Other lynch. Same situation I don´t like the main wagons. I vote somebody else
IT MAKE ME FUCKING SCUM AGAIN
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
THE HELL SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YOU ALL WANT FROM THIS SHIT RUSSIAN DICTURE LYNCHS?????????
Do you seriously expect me to have the same opinions, do the same reads as you and convince myself that one of the wagons is fucking scum even if I don't believe it????????
I don't expect you to have the same reads. I expect you to have reasons for your reads though. And some of those are really really hard to take serious. The only read from you that I feel being genuine is dp. And I can't shake the feeling that is because you are both mafia... Oats pushed you long before he was redchecked too. Did you care so little about this game that you are forgetting all of this?
Es exestieren 2 wagons die ich nicht wählen möchte. Nach längeren nachdenken wähl ich jemanden der eher flippen könnte oder wie im cc fahl um ihr ihren wunsch zu erfüllen. THAT MAKE ME SCUM Es exestieren 2 wagons die ich aus parnoiden gedanken wegen Dp nicht wählen möchte. Ich wähle keinen vonen wagons THAT MAKE ME SCUM
I thougt about who I am gonna lynch I just wasn´t happy with both wagons most of the time. And as soon as I don´t fucking vote this shit dp pushed wagons I AM SCUM. Wuhuuu
This voting shit doesn´t make any sense. I thougt about who i was voting even tough I didn´t like my 2 option. I voted CC over Ve because VE is often a misslynch target. I voted CC over J because i wanted to do her the favor she asked for in mason.
At some point I just got suck of all this wagons pushed by the scum thread thing and don´t vote any of them.
If you believe I am Mafia with dp then vote dp with me. there is still a chance to lynch me after dp flips. I just want to finally get him lynched after this cc shitshow he deserves to get lynced and now killing our major is breaking the top of the iceberg. Lynch Dp with me or lynch me and we all can finally read the obs tomorrow.
On March 20 2024 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: I really think it would be a lot more productive and helpful if you reasoned out your read on Rels and Jealous a bit, dmb. Probably even DP. So far I just see: "I know they are mafia". Which is not very convincing to people who don't know that.
Okey so I write it again and again and again. TTS looked scummy even with just his few posts. Was not playing and usless for mafia anyway DP getting the gun and knows shooting his usless non activ mafia mate for townreads would be the best way to get townpoints DP pushing us all the time to vote on Town (seems like nobody cares about that) DP and Rels did not really communicate or talk about each other in the thread until i called the scum togther. DP is not town. No fucking way.
Rels has licked the hand of the seer´s to get such good information and never made any mistakes here. No voting mistakes no writing mistakes... first mistake was palmar. Happend after the thread got attention...
J. Says koshi is scum after koshi got nk....wtf... how the fuck?
The voting switch triggers me still in my head. Doesn´t make him Town for me.
I repeat - Rels voted me day1. He also hammered VE together with Iamp. Wtf are you even smoking. I get the DP thing - that is fine. But your Rels read is just lazy. I don't buy it. Is the Koshi thing the only reason you think jealous is mafia?
you want a better read on rels i give you one after you give me a read on me!
when you are town why you don´t see that dp shit? why you think I am scum? Why you actually trusting another wagon pushed mainly by dp? Why you don´t see what kinda shit is happening here for Town? Make a case on me. Tell me why you really voting me and I take my time to make a case on Rels. Because now it´s just useless I will die anyway and we lose this game as Town, because some kangroo is jumping 24/7 in this thread around and let us vote (bad)town after (bad)town after town
I see the "dp shit". He has not died so far and pushed mislynches. He could be mafia. But to be fair if he did not shoot mafia he could have won already if that was the case. And there is only one nightkill who he realistically should have been killed instead. That is Koshi.
I think you are mafia because Oats thought you scumslipped, because you lynched CC while overexplaining and because you ensured Palmars death while your supposed scumread Jealous was his counterwagon.
Your wagon is not mainly pushed by dp at all. He shielded you the last 2 days.
Oats pushed the scummiest Town that exists at that moment. For good sake how long do you play this game? He got a red check the only way he could maybe get saved is to make a case on the scmmiest looking town that was me for my lazy list post i made (requested by Rels... he knew my list post always give me scumreads....)
CC wanted to die and I accept her wish and was stupid anoth to still listing do dp
then I was getting completely paranoid about dp so I wouldn´t vote any wagon pushed by him. Not Palmar Not J. J switching to DP still doesn´t make sense for me. Because he should have just stayed on Palmar to not lose... because either way the wagons were all kinda close with the same vote amounts.
I thougts of Palmar as town and didn´t vote.
And here you have the fucking unlogical that vote make you scum example CC and VE. I didn´t like both wagons voted still for one of the wagons so my vote is not useless or scummy looking. What happpend? I got called scum for that.
Other lynch. Same situation I don´t like the main wagons. I vote somebody else
IT MAKE ME FUCKING SCUM AGAIN
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
THE HELL SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YOU ALL WANT FROM THIS SHIT RUSSIAN DICTURE LYNCHS?????????
Do you seriously expect me to have the same opinions, do the same reads as you and convince myself that one of the wagons is fucking scum even if I don't believe it????????
I don't expect you to have the same reads. I expect you to have reasons for your reads though. And some of those are really really hard to take serious. The only read from you that I feel being genuine is dp. And I can't shake the feeling that is because you are both mafia... Oats pushed you long before he was redchecked too. Did you care so little about this game that you are forgetting all of this?
Es exestieren 2 wagons die ich nicht wählen möchte. Nach längeren nachdenken wähl ich jemanden der eher flippen könnte oder wie im cc fahl um ihr ihren wunsch zu erfüllen. THAT MAKE ME SCUM Es exestieren 2 wagons die ich aus parnoiden gedanken wegen Dp nicht wählen möchte. Ich wähle keinen vonen wagons THAT MAKE ME SCUM
I thougt about who I am gonna lynch I just wasn´t happy with both wagons most of the time. And as soon as I don´t fucking vote this shit dp pushed wagons I AM SCUM. Wuhuuu
This voting shit doesn´t make any sense. I thougt about who i was voting even tough I didn´t like my 2 option. I voted CC over Ve because VE is often a misslynch target. I voted CC over J because i wanted to do her the favor she asked for in mason.
At some point I just got suck of all this wagons pushed by the scum thread thing and don´t vote any of them.
If you believe I am Mafia with dp then vote dp with me. there is still a chance to lynch me after dp flips. I just want to finally get him lynched after this cc shitshow he deserves to get lynced and now killing our major is breaking the top of the iceberg. Lynch Dp with me or lynch me and we all can finally read the obs tomorrow.
fuck sorry for the german part: There are 2 wagons that I don't want to choose. After some thought, I choose someone who is more likely to flip or, as in cc, pale to fulfil her wish. THAT MAKE ME SCUM There are 2 wagons that I don't want to choose out of parnoid thoughts because of Dp. I choose none of them THAT MAKE ME SCUM
On March 20 2024 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: I really think it would be a lot more productive and helpful if you reasoned out your read on Rels and Jealous a bit, dmb. Probably even DP. So far I just see: "I know they are mafia". Which is not very convincing to people who don't know that.
Okey so I write it again and again and again. TTS looked scummy even with just his few posts. Was not playing and usless for mafia anyway DP getting the gun and knows shooting his usless non activ mafia mate for townreads would be the best way to get townpoints DP pushing us all the time to vote on Town (seems like nobody cares about that) DP and Rels did not really communicate or talk about each other in the thread until i called the scum togther. DP is not town. No fucking way.
Rels has licked the hand of the seer´s to get such good information and never made any mistakes here. No voting mistakes no writing mistakes... first mistake was palmar. Happend after the thread got attention...
J. Says koshi is scum after koshi got nk....wtf... how the fuck?
The voting switch triggers me still in my head. Doesn´t make him Town for me.
I repeat - Rels voted me day1. He also hammered VE together with Iamp. Wtf are you even smoking. I get the DP thing - that is fine. But your Rels read is just lazy. I don't buy it. Is the Koshi thing the only reason you think jealous is mafia?
you want a better read on rels i give you one after you give me a read on me!
when you are town why you don´t see that dp shit? why you think I am scum? Why you actually trusting another wagon pushed mainly by dp? Why you don´t see what kinda shit is happening here for Town? Make a case on me. Tell me why you really voting me and I take my time to make a case on Rels. Because now it´s just useless I will die anyway and we lose this game as Town, because some kangroo is jumping 24/7 in this thread around and let us vote (bad)town after (bad)town after town
I see the "dp shit". He has not died so far and pushed mislynches. He could be mafia. But to be fair if he did not shoot mafia he could have won already if that was the case. And there is only one nightkill who he realistically should have been killed instead. That is Koshi.
I think you are mafia because Oats thought you scumslipped, because you lynched CC while overexplaining and because you ensured Palmars death while your supposed scumread Jealous was his counterwagon.
Your wagon is not mainly pushed by dp at all. He shielded you the last 2 days.
Oats pushed the scummiest Town that exists at that moment. For good sake how long do you play this game? He got a red check the only way he could maybe get saved is to make a case on the scmmiest looking town that was me for my lazy list post i made (requested by Rels... he knew my list post always give me scumreads....)
CC wanted to die and I accept her wish and was stupid anoth to still listing do dp
then I was getting completely paranoid about dp so I wouldn´t vote any wagon pushed by him. Not Palmar Not J. J switching to DP still doesn´t make sense for me. Because he should have just stayed on Palmar to not lose... because either way the wagons were all kinda close with the same vote amounts.
I thougts of Palmar as town and didn´t vote.
And here you have the fucking unlogical that vote make you scum example CC and VE. I didn´t like both wagons voted still for one of the wagons so my vote is not useless or scummy looking. What happpend? I got called scum for that.
Other lynch. Same situation I don´t like the main wagons. I vote somebody else
IT MAKE ME FUCKING SCUM AGAIN
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
THE HELL SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YOU ALL WANT FROM THIS SHIT RUSSIAN DICTURE LYNCHS?????????
Do you seriously expect me to have the same opinions, do the same reads as you and convince myself that one of the wagons is fucking scum even if I don't believe it????????
I don't expect you to have the same reads. I expect you to have reasons for your reads though. And some of those are really really hard to take serious. The only read from you that I feel being genuine is dp. And I can't shake the feeling that is because you are both mafia... Oats pushed you long before he was redchecked too. Did you care so little about this game that you are forgetting all of this?
Es exestieren 2 wagons die ich nicht wählen möchte. Nach längeren nachdenken wähl ich jemanden der eher flippen könnte oder wie im cc fahl um ihr ihren wunsch zu erfüllen. THAT MAKE ME SCUM Es exestieren 2 wagons die ich aus parnoiden gedanken wegen Dp nicht wählen möchte. Ich wähle keinen vonen wagons THAT MAKE ME SCUM
I thougt about who I am gonna lynch I just wasn´t happy with both wagons most of the time. And as soon as I don´t fucking vote this shit dp pushed wagons I AM SCUM. Wuhuuu
This voting shit doesn´t make any sense. I thougt about who i was voting even tough I didn´t like my 2 option. I voted CC over Ve because VE is often a misslynch target. I voted CC over J because i wanted to do her the favor she asked for in mason.
At some point I just got suck of all this wagons pushed by the scum thread thing and don´t vote any of them.
If you believe I am Mafia with dp then vote dp with me. there is still a chance to lynch me after dp flips. I just want to finally get him lynched after this cc shitshow he deserves to get lynced and now killing our major is breaking the top of the iceberg. Lynch Dp with me or lynch me and we all can finally read the obs tomorrow.
Good thing I can read german
Even if I thought DP was as likely mafia as you (and lets be honest you can be mafia if he is town) that would only make sense if all other townies are with us.
sorry already translated it.
Who would be mafia if you could just think for one moment on me as Town? Pls try at least one time and then look who voted me first
On March 20 2024 05:43 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote]
Okey so I write it again and again and again. TTS looked scummy even with just his few posts. Was not playing and usless for mafia anyway DP getting the gun and knows shooting his usless non activ mafia mate for townreads would be the best way to get townpoints DP pushing us all the time to vote on Town (seems like nobody cares about that) DP and Rels did not really communicate or talk about each other in the thread until i called the scum togther. DP is not town. No fucking way.
Rels has licked the hand of the seer´s to get such good information and never made any mistakes here. No voting mistakes no writing mistakes... first mistake was palmar. Happend after the thread got attention...
J. Says koshi is scum after koshi got nk....wtf... how the fuck?
The voting switch triggers me still in my head. Doesn´t make him Town for me.
I repeat - Rels voted me day1. He also hammered VE together with Iamp. Wtf are you even smoking. I get the DP thing - that is fine. But your Rels read is just lazy. I don't buy it. Is the Koshi thing the only reason you think jealous is mafia?
you want a better read on rels i give you one after you give me a read on me!
when you are town why you don´t see that dp shit? why you think I am scum? Why you actually trusting another wagon pushed mainly by dp? Why you don´t see what kinda shit is happening here for Town? Make a case on me. Tell me why you really voting me and I take my time to make a case on Rels. Because now it´s just useless I will die anyway and we lose this game as Town, because some kangroo is jumping 24/7 in this thread around and let us vote (bad)town after (bad)town after town
I see the "dp shit". He has not died so far and pushed mislynches. He could be mafia. But to be fair if he did not shoot mafia he could have won already if that was the case. And there is only one nightkill who he realistically should have been killed instead. That is Koshi.
I think you are mafia because Oats thought you scumslipped, because you lynched CC while overexplaining and because you ensured Palmars death while your supposed scumread Jealous was his counterwagon.
Your wagon is not mainly pushed by dp at all. He shielded you the last 2 days.
Oats pushed the scummiest Town that exists at that moment. For good sake how long do you play this game? He got a red check the only way he could maybe get saved is to make a case on the scmmiest looking town that was me for my lazy list post i made (requested by Rels... he knew my list post always give me scumreads....)
CC wanted to die and I accept her wish and was stupid anoth to still listing do dp
then I was getting completely paranoid about dp so I wouldn´t vote any wagon pushed by him. Not Palmar Not J. J switching to DP still doesn´t make sense for me. Because he should have just stayed on Palmar to not lose... because either way the wagons were all kinda close with the same vote amounts.
I thougts of Palmar as town and didn´t vote.
And here you have the fucking unlogical that vote make you scum example CC and VE. I didn´t like both wagons voted still for one of the wagons so my vote is not useless or scummy looking. What happpend? I got called scum for that.
Other lynch. Same situation I don´t like the main wagons. I vote somebody else
IT MAKE ME FUCKING SCUM AGAIN
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
THE HELL SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YOU ALL WANT FROM THIS SHIT RUSSIAN DICTURE LYNCHS?????????
Do you seriously expect me to have the same opinions, do the same reads as you and convince myself that one of the wagons is fucking scum even if I don't believe it????????
I don't expect you to have the same reads. I expect you to have reasons for your reads though. And some of those are really really hard to take serious. The only read from you that I feel being genuine is dp. And I can't shake the feeling that is because you are both mafia... Oats pushed you long before he was redchecked too. Did you care so little about this game that you are forgetting all of this?
Es exestieren 2 wagons die ich nicht wählen möchte. Nach längeren nachdenken wähl ich jemanden der eher flippen könnte oder wie im cc fahl um ihr ihren wunsch zu erfüllen. THAT MAKE ME SCUM Es exestieren 2 wagons die ich aus parnoiden gedanken wegen Dp nicht wählen möchte. Ich wähle keinen vonen wagons THAT MAKE ME SCUM
I thougt about who I am gonna lynch I just wasn´t happy with both wagons most of the time. And as soon as I don´t fucking vote this shit dp pushed wagons I AM SCUM. Wuhuuu
This voting shit doesn´t make any sense. I thougt about who i was voting even tough I didn´t like my 2 option. I voted CC over Ve because VE is often a misslynch target. I voted CC over J because i wanted to do her the favor she asked for in mason.
At some point I just got suck of all this wagons pushed by the scum thread thing and don´t vote any of them.
If you believe I am Mafia with dp then vote dp with me. there is still a chance to lynch me after dp flips. I just want to finally get him lynched after this cc shitshow he deserves to get lynced and now killing our major is breaking the top of the iceberg. Lynch Dp with me or lynch me and we all can finally read the obs tomorrow.
Good thing I can read german
Even if I thought DP was as likely mafia as you (and lets be honest you can be mafia if he is town) that would only make sense if all other townies are with us.
sorry already translated it.
Who would be mafia if you could just think for one moment on me as Town? Pls try at least one time and then look who voted me first
If you are town my guess would be something like Jealous/DP/MZ maybe.
On March 20 2024 06:30 justanothertownie wrote: Do you use a translator or did you really switch languages for individual sentences?
I use translater for more specialised word translation if needet but not for fully sentences. And AI for getting better swear words so I would not use fuck all the time
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote: Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.
Why is that amazing?
Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.
I don´t think it´s funny when I get this fucking mad that I can not write in one language anymore
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote: Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.
Why is that amazing?
Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.
When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.
I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages. I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote: Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.
Why is that amazing?
Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.
When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.
I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages. I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.
But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok.
wtf It´s not mandarin or arabic I use the same keyboard with the same order of letters to write german or english. I am learning with the same keyboard italien. I don´t need to change any settings for that.
I don´t turn anything of or on at the keyboard. We use the same 26 letters of the alphabet +äöü
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote: Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.
Why is that amazing?
Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.
When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.
I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages. I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.
But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok.
wtf It´s not mandarin or arabic I use the same keyboard with the same order of letters to write german or english. I am learning with the same keyboard italien. I don´t need to change any settings for that.
I don´t turn anything of or on at the keyboard. We use the same 26 letters of the alphabet +äöü
are you trying to make a case on me for switching in my motherlanguage when I am getting so pissed?
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote: Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.
Why is that amazing?
Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.
When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.
I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages. I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.
But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok.
wtf It´s not mandarin or arabic I use the same keyboard with the same order of letters to write german or english. I am learning with the same keyboard italien. I don´t need to change any settings for that.
I don´t turn anything of or on at the keyboard. We use the same 26 letters of the alphabet +äöü
On March 20 2024 07:03 die_meatbaby wrote: Is this here a serious question with the keyboard
I think jealous is serious. This line of questioning is not very productive though.
yeah and you are voting me instead of the one who want to make a case on me because of my german keyboard thats even worse then palmar who made a case on me by counting how often I used the word fuck
On March 20 2024 07:03 die_meatbaby wrote: Is this here a serious question with the keyboard
I think jealous is serious. This line of questioning is not very productive though.
yeah and you are voting me instead of the one who want to make a case on me because of my german keyboard thats even worse then palmar who made a case on me by counting how often I used the word fuck
Fair. Not why I am voting you though.
I'll say it again. He wants to make a case on me because of my keyboard.
On March 20 2024 07:03 die_meatbaby wrote: Is this here a serious question with the keyboard
I think jealous is serious. This line of questioning is not very productive though.
yeah and you are voting me instead of the one who want to make a case on me because of my german keyboard thats even worse then palmar who made a case on me by counting how often I used the word fuck
Fair. Not why I am voting you though.
I'll say it again. He wants to make a case on me because of my keyboard.
On March 20 2024 07:33 DarthPunk wrote: I’m jumping on the pc to explain why.
be aware writing on a non american keyboard is scummy
I didn't mean an actual physical keyboard obviously. I meant going through the process of switching languages on the same device. I didn't know those German keyboards looked like that where you could legitimately type in both languages without changing input methods.
Still, super unlikely to be unintentional.
I have 50% guests who speaking Englisch and the other half german. So I am switching from order to order my language in seconds. I am sorry that it happend here. It also happend to me that i turned around and spoke english with my german boss. And also to Vivax who speaks 3 languages fluent. It happend that he spoke italien to me. Or switched do english because dirty talks in german sucks and swearing in german is amazing.
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL.
Grack already told us he‘s scum either way
great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him.
I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw.
I DIDNT PLAY IN THE GAME YOU LINKED
It´s about j´s play not yours He play there Town. Got almost lynched. the reads, the way he make lists, shit mistakes, (drunk posts), its just to simular to his game here.
On March 18 2024 11:12 Rels wrote: Fuck I guess I'll revisit the game tomorrow after sleeping on it Masterfully played if it's still jealous dmb. Not relying on scumreading Palmar
really you still thinking of me and J? you are fucking serious?
It´s over. You and DP are scum and i will vote nobody else expect one of you two!!!!!!!
I am still not sure who the 3rd on is but I will find out. Just first you and fucking dp.
On March 19 2024 10:40 DarthPunk wrote: We need to establish townies and just roll the dice here, if we are all town fighting with ourselves and blaming for the mess we are in while Jealous and DMB are fucking preening about their impending victory we can never win here.
those are the two lynches before 2-1 LYLO imo.
then there should be enough spew to find the last mafia.
Jealous is scum, but with you and Rels! If I get nk pls Town do the right thing and vote for them.
She actively calls Jealous town, and defends him preflip and then calls him mafia with supreme confidence out of nowhere for no apparent reason.
That progression makes no sense from a town!DMB world view.
On March 19 2024 11:04 die_meatbaby wrote: #vote Jealous
that was the wrong nk. you don´t kill my mayor
After she had literally said, no matter what me and rels were first.
Weird and historically untrue justification for her town read on Jealous from the past few days, that pinged me earlier: + Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2024 11:28 die_meatbaby wrote: I ruined the lynch yesterday because of my paranoia I had to vote on any wagons pushed by Dp but now i am sure we were on the right lynch and I am sorry for that but I just got sick of all this wagons that DP pushed that we voted and were just Town
On March 19 2024 11:28 die_meatbaby wrote: I ruined the lynch yesterday because of my paranoia I had to vote on any wagons pushed by Dp but now i am sure we were on the right lynch and I am sorry for that but I just got sick of all this wagons that DP pushed that we voted and were just Town
Thats not why you had him as town though, you had him as town the previous day too.
And you used meta to justify that read, so what happened with that?
You had a vote on J as well Where did your scum read of him go?
Gets defensive about it and tries to flip it around on me.
On March 20 2024 04:39 die_meatbaby wrote: ##Unvote J ##Vote DP
The game is over anyway. Mafia is bussing the last weak town. The rest of Town doesn´t see that DP and Rels are scum togther. Maybe I was wrong with j maybe not. I am stil sure its either Dp/Rels/J or DP/Rels/JAT Whatever, I don´t want to discuss here anymore how this scum just kills strong town in the night and mafia make wagons on weak Town as they did already on VE, CC and now of course me. I am happy that I found out who is the main scum and thats what matter for me. I can not change the lynch and I don´t want to invest more energy in this game anymore We would have to make 3 correct lynchs, but that will not happen anyway. I can not get trough this with this kind of Townplayers who are left.
And I dare you do never call me bad Town in the next game again if I was the first one realising that Rels/DP are scum togther and no one accept vivax believed me. Never ever are you guys allowed to call me fucking bad Town in any future game because I did not play any bad in this game, just this Townplayers are all so fucking noobs that I can´t believe that this is actually real.
This lynchs seems more like the Putin election 2024
Please tick the box of your choice [ ]Wladimir Putin [ ] Putin Wladmir [x] I want to go to prison or/and die
Lynch votes in this game Pls Vote: [ ] Town [ ] Town [x] scum but no body will vote and you get lynced next
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
Weak as fuck backtrack on the jealous scum read: + Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
"I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch"
Then why did you call me scum right after the Palmar flip?
On March 20 2024 07:30 die_meatbaby wrote: ##Vote Jealous
Damning and inexusable.
If she is as convinced and as emotional as she is performing that me and rels are mafia together, the easy flip back onto jealous who she talked to as if he is town and conceded could not be mafia over someone like JAT is just a scumclaim imo.
Not sure why you all were taken in by any of that, but here we are.
behavier. but could also be JAT after looking at the votes back on oats
hey dp you already won. They lynch scummy Town DMB and you and your team will win. I can not change my bad Towngame anymore. I am happy that at least I found out who actually mafia is.
haha also when I would be mafia thats not a scumslip. When everybody who is still in the game is voting me, then of course mafia is busing on me Lol what kind of case is that
You did already better dp. But why should you give more effort in you scumdmb reads they will make the last misslynch and vote again a badtown and even if I am wrong on J. I am still so sure that is you and rels
I already explained why I called J scum after the Palmar flip. Otherwise all 3 of you would stick on the same townlynch. Not good. So he changed to dp lynch so you are not voting the same towntarget. I don´t see any reason for a Townjealous to switch to dp and may risk a lynch on himself.
I am not able to get Town to vote on you and I am to lazy and tired to make a case on rels and I know that would even be harder to get people to vote on rels. So I will stick with my 3rd and not main but still scumthought.
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL.
Grack already told us he‘s scum either way
great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him.
I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw.
I DIDNT PLAY IN THE GAME YOU LINKED
It´s about j´s play not yours He play there Town. Got almost lynched. the reads, the way he make lists, shit mistakes, (drunk posts), its just to simular to his game here.
On March 18 2024 11:12 Rels wrote: Fuck I guess I'll revisit the game tomorrow after sleeping on it Masterfully played if it's still jealous dmb. Not relying on scumreading Palmar
really you still thinking of me and J? you are fucking serious?
It´s over. You and DP are scum and i will vote nobody else expect one of you two!!!!!!!
I am still not sure who the 3rd on is but I will find out. Just first you and fucking dp.
On March 19 2024 10:40 DarthPunk wrote: We need to establish townies and just roll the dice here, if we are all town fighting with ourselves and blaming for the mess we are in while Jealous and DMB are fucking preening about their impending victory we can never win here.
those are the two lynches before 2-1 LYLO imo.
then there should be enough spew to find the last mafia.
Jealous is scum, but with you and Rels! If I get nk pls Town do the right thing and vote for them.
She actively calls Jealous town, and defends him preflip and then calls him mafia with supreme confidence out of nowhere for no apparent reason.
That progression makes no sense from a town!DMB world view.
Further it happens again.
we go from this weird vote,
On March 19 2024 11:04 die_meatbaby wrote: #vote Jealous
that was the wrong nk. you don´t kill my mayor
After she had literally said, no matter what me and rels were first.
Weird and historically untrue justification for her town read on Jealous from the past few days, that pinged me earlier: + Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2024 11:28 die_meatbaby wrote: I ruined the lynch yesterday because of my paranoia I had to vote on any wagons pushed by Dp but now i am sure we were on the right lynch and I am sorry for that but I just got sick of all this wagons that DP pushed that we voted and were just Town
On March 19 2024 11:28 die_meatbaby wrote: I ruined the lynch yesterday because of my paranoia I had to vote on any wagons pushed by Dp but now i am sure we were on the right lynch and I am sorry for that but I just got sick of all this wagons that DP pushed that we voted and were just Town
Thats not why you had him as town though, you had him as town the previous day too.
And you used meta to justify that read, so what happened with that?
You had a vote on J as well Where did your scum read of him go?
Gets defensive about it and tries to flip it around on me.
On March 20 2024 04:39 die_meatbaby wrote: ##Unvote J ##Vote DP
The game is over anyway. Mafia is bussing the last weak town. The rest of Town doesn´t see that DP and Rels are scum togther. Maybe I was wrong with j maybe not. I am stil sure its either Dp/Rels/J or DP/Rels/JAT Whatever, I don´t want to discuss here anymore how this scum just kills strong town in the night and mafia make wagons on weak Town as they did already on VE, CC and now of course me. I am happy that I found out who is the main scum and thats what matter for me. I can not change the lynch and I don´t want to invest more energy in this game anymore We would have to make 3 correct lynchs, but that will not happen anyway. I can not get trough this with this kind of Townplayers who are left.
And I dare you do never call me bad Town in the next game again if I was the first one realising that Rels/DP are scum togther and no one accept vivax believed me. Never ever are you guys allowed to call me fucking bad Town in any future game because I did not play any bad in this game, just this Townplayers are all so fucking noobs that I can´t believe that this is actually real.
This lynchs seems more like the Putin election 2024
Please tick the box of your choice [ ]Wladimir Putin [ ] Putin Wladmir [x] I want to go to prison or/and die
Lynch votes in this game Pls Vote: [ ] Town [ ] Town [x] scum but no body will vote and you get lynced next
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
Weak as fuck backtrack on the jealous scum read: + Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
"I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch"
Then why did you call me scum right after the Palmar flip?
Answer this.
all of which make this vote here:
On March 20 2024 07:30 die_meatbaby wrote: ##Vote Jealous
Damning and inexusable.
If she is as convinced and as emotional as she is performing that me and rels are mafia together, the easy flip back onto jealous who she talked to as if he is town and conceded could not be mafia over someone like JAT is just a scumclaim imo.
Not sure why you all were taken in by any of that, but here we are.
behavier. but could also be JAT after looking at the votes back on oats
hey dp you already won. They lynch scummy Town DMB and you and your team will win. I can not change my bad Towngame anymore. I am happy that at least I found out who actually mafia is.
haha also when I would be mafia thats not a scumslip. When everybody who is still in the game is voting me, then of course mafia is busing on me Lol what kind of case is that
You did already better dp. But why should you give more effort in you scumdmb reads they will make the last misslynch and vote again a badtown and even if I am wrong on J. I am still so sure that is you and rels
I already explained why I called J scum after the Palmar flip. Otherwise all 3 of you would stick on the same townlynch. Not good. So he changed to dp lynch so you are not voting the same towntarget. I don´t see any reason for a Townjealous to switch to dp and may risk a lynch on himself.
I am not able to get Town to vote on you and I am to lazy and tired to make a case on rels and I know that would even be harder to get people to vote on rels. So I will stick with my 3rd and not main but still scumthought.
But you called him town again after the bolded.
yeah because I try to untunnel myself for a bit to see if I find other possible scum members. But I failed. I still think it´s him
On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway
so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol.
I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now.
did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here
The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL.
Grack already told us he‘s scum either way
great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him.
I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw.
I DIDNT PLAY IN THE GAME YOU LINKED
It´s about j´s play not yours He play there Town. Got almost lynched. the reads, the way he make lists, shit mistakes, (drunk posts), its just to simular to his game here.
On March 18 2024 11:12 Rels wrote: Fuck I guess I'll revisit the game tomorrow after sleeping on it Masterfully played if it's still jealous dmb. Not relying on scumreading Palmar
really you still thinking of me and J? you are fucking serious?
It´s over. You and DP are scum and i will vote nobody else expect one of you two!!!!!!!
I am still not sure who the 3rd on is but I will find out. Just first you and fucking dp.
On March 19 2024 10:40 DarthPunk wrote: We need to establish townies and just roll the dice here, if we are all town fighting with ourselves and blaming for the mess we are in while Jealous and DMB are fucking preening about their impending victory we can never win here.
those are the two lynches before 2-1 LYLO imo.
then there should be enough spew to find the last mafia.
Jealous is scum, but with you and Rels! If I get nk pls Town do the right thing and vote for them.
She actively calls Jealous town, and defends him preflip and then calls him mafia with supreme confidence out of nowhere for no apparent reason.
That progression makes no sense from a town!DMB world view.
Further it happens again.
we go from this weird vote,
On March 19 2024 11:04 die_meatbaby wrote: #vote Jealous
that was the wrong nk. you don´t kill my mayor
After she had literally said, no matter what me and rels were first.
Weird and historically untrue justification for her town read on Jealous from the past few days, that pinged me earlier: + Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2024 11:28 die_meatbaby wrote: I ruined the lynch yesterday because of my paranoia I had to vote on any wagons pushed by Dp but now i am sure we were on the right lynch and I am sorry for that but I just got sick of all this wagons that DP pushed that we voted and were just Town
On March 19 2024 11:28 die_meatbaby wrote: I ruined the lynch yesterday because of my paranoia I had to vote on any wagons pushed by Dp but now i am sure we were on the right lynch and I am sorry for that but I just got sick of all this wagons that DP pushed that we voted and were just Town
Thats not why you had him as town though, you had him as town the previous day too.
And you used meta to justify that read, so what happened with that?
You had a vote on J as well Where did your scum read of him go?
Gets defensive about it and tries to flip it around on me.
On March 20 2024 04:39 die_meatbaby wrote: ##Unvote J ##Vote DP
The game is over anyway. Mafia is bussing the last weak town. The rest of Town doesn´t see that DP and Rels are scum togther. Maybe I was wrong with j maybe not. I am stil sure its either Dp/Rels/J or DP/Rels/JAT Whatever, I don´t want to discuss here anymore how this scum just kills strong town in the night and mafia make wagons on weak Town as they did already on VE, CC and now of course me. I am happy that I found out who is the main scum and thats what matter for me. I can not change the lynch and I don´t want to invest more energy in this game anymore We would have to make 3 correct lynchs, but that will not happen anyway. I can not get trough this with this kind of Townplayers who are left.
And I dare you do never call me bad Town in the next game again if I was the first one realising that Rels/DP are scum togther and no one accept vivax believed me. Never ever are you guys allowed to call me fucking bad Town in any future game because I did not play any bad in this game, just this Townplayers are all so fucking noobs that I can´t believe that this is actually real.
This lynchs seems more like the Putin election 2024
Please tick the box of your choice [ ]Wladimir Putin [ ] Putin Wladmir [x] I want to go to prison or/and die
Lynch votes in this game Pls Vote: [ ] Town [ ] Town [x] scum but no body will vote and you get lynced next
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
Weak as fuck backtrack on the jealous scum read: + Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2024 04:40 Jealous wrote: You've also been one of the players I've TR'd basically all game so keeping me in the game over wildcards like CopCake would make sense, or more respected players like Palmar.
I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch and thats the reason why we are here, still left with 3 scums and so less Town. With this behavier and blindness I will not try to lead this Town-moles to the daylight they want. I am not able to go in war with Rels and DP alone. They turning my words around and I am just happy about myself for at least knowing better who is scum then you guys, who are all playing here since at least on decade...
"I didn´t vote on you because I am sure that dp is trying to push two Town wagons up for lynch"
Then why did you call me scum right after the Palmar flip?
Answer this.
all of which make this vote here:
On March 20 2024 07:30 die_meatbaby wrote: ##Vote Jealous
Damning and inexusable.
If she is as convinced and as emotional as she is performing that me and rels are mafia together, the easy flip back onto jealous who she talked to as if he is town and conceded could not be mafia over someone like JAT is just a scumclaim imo.
Not sure why you all were taken in by any of that, but here we are.
behavier. but could also be JAT after looking at the votes back on oats
hey dp you already won. They lynch scummy Town DMB and you and your team will win. I can not change my bad Towngame anymore. I am happy that at least I found out who actually mafia is.
haha also when I would be mafia thats not a scumslip. When everybody who is still in the game is voting me, then of course mafia is busing on me Lol what kind of case is that
You did already better dp. But why should you give more effort in you scumdmb reads they will make the last misslynch and vote again a badtown and even if I am wrong on J. I am still so sure that is you and rels
I already explained why I called J scum after the Palmar flip. Otherwise all 3 of you would stick on the same townlynch. Not good. So he changed to dp lynch so you are not voting the same towntarget. I don´t see any reason for a Townjealous to switch to dp and may risk a lynch on himself.
I am not able to get Town to vote on you and I am to lazy and tired to make a case on rels and I know that would even be harder to get people to vote on rels. So I will stick with my 3rd and not main but still scumthought.
But you called him town again after the bolded.
yeah because I try to untunnel myself for a bit to see if I find other possible scum members. But I failed. I still think it´s him
No you didn't, you unvoted him to tunnel on me who you were already tunneled, you didn't do anything new at all.
Then you voted for him again as soon as anyone suggested it.
Really if you were town I think you would have voted me or rels, you haven't even talked about rels this phase/
My amore get nk. I vote direcetly J I was mad about killing vivax instead of me or someone else. I was(am still) not happy about his voting switch on dp Mafia votes me. town votes. The gost of chez votes me. Everybodys vote was on me. I accept my death for town. I am sorry that town will lose because I just accepted it. I want to die with a vote on you! If Town is believing your stupid case on me. Or J case because of my keyboard and still votes me then yes I will switch on you again just, because you are for 100% scum. No other option open
So just to make this clear I have to make a case on DP on Rels and J now. Because just making a case on one person for one lynch is not enough.. sorry not gonna waste my time for 3 cases at one lynch were I get lynched obv.
On March 20 2024 08:37 DarthPunk wrote: The thing is DMB, you said that you flipped your read on Jealous to 'untunnel' and try and see something else, even though you are posting that appeal to emotion in response to this, there is no evidence of you 'untunnelling' and looking at others, or reasons for considering others, so I just have to discount that as the case.
I tried to untunnel. I failed. He is scum in my eyes again or still or however you want to call that.
On March 20 2024 08:37 DarthPunk wrote: The thing is DMB, you said that you flipped your read on Jealous to 'untunnel' and try and see something else, even though you are posting that appeal to emotion in response to this, there is no evidence of you 'untunnelling' and looking at others, or reasons for considering others, so I just have to discount that as the case.
I tried to untunnel. I failed. He is scum in my eyes again or still or however you want to call that.
On March 05 2024 05:57 justanothertownie wrote: I think I like the direction that seems to have formed of Iamp, Rayn, marv and to a lesser degree sandro as a council of sorts. I had at least 3-4 moments in the early pages where Iamp posted exactly what I was thinking at the time. Rayn seems reasonable so far (but him masoning marv is probably something he does as either alignment) and I agree that marv masoning sandro is a move that is more likely to come from town. Would still prefer if people used the thread to communicate even though it would make catching up even harder.
On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote: Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia?
Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that.
On March 06 2024 12:37 CopCake wrote: So my theory is that Tfrel got lynched because mafia big boys are scared of him.
He got lynched because of his end of day posts.
I was about to swap to JAT and he basically claimed mafia ITT
O_o
Who are the mafia big boys who lynched Trfel though?
My filter is there. Why are you asking me this?
Because I thought you might enlighten me without me having to go to your filter. DP obviously. Who else?
Iamp, Vivax, Palmar
Ok. Vivax and Iamp pushed that for sure - I just don't think they are very likely to be mafia. Palmar was happy to sit on me through the whole thing. I don't remember him pushing Trfel.
On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote: [quote] Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list: 2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA. 3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus" 3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows. 3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.* 4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia" 4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree "
Scum: JAT Meapak_Ziphh Jacob ToTheStars VE DMB CopCake
Can you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate.
On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote: How did you get jat is town from my filter
From this, quoted above in response to the original list:
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now
Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum
Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one.
1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct? 2. Why is JAT scum? 3. And why is CopCake town?
I really don’t like the way he was absolving himself of responsibility on day 1 and sheeping marv wholesale while claiming marv wasn’t a townread for him. Today hes said twice now about the check possibly being altered but he’s seems to have said it just to say it without fully considering what the options are
There are no options, Oats. If you are town you have been very unfortunate. Or slam is mafia, which I think is very unlikely. In each case, the correct play is always to lynch you today.
The correct play is to lynch mafia.
The man makes a good point.
Such smart
On March 07 2024 02:43 justanothertownie wrote: Trfel (11): iamperfection, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, sandroba
I think this wagon is overall quite towny (both claimants, marv, koshi, iamp, sandro). The only player that really seems suspicious at first glance is VE. There is probably someone else hiding in here but the people on my wagon look markedly worse on average. Which makes sense since they would probably rather be on the townie that doesn't immediately flip.
^ This is just from the first two days and they are practically blowing each other. I'm gonna keep digging to see if there are any discrepancies but to my recollection it was never like they filtered one another or anything.
Then there is the fact that they just both happened to switch to me and then say "ah yea won't be around much tomorrow btw." Like, yea, plausible, but could easily be a coordinated push that only appears whimsical. They also seemed to just give DMB a free pass way too often this game. Combine that with this:
--- So this is Oats' updated "read list." We know he was bussing DMB hard if it's scumgoon!DMB, which I think would make the most sense to be honest, as it would paint him in a really good light when she flips red, let him survive one day longer at minimum as framer.
This would then make his town "reads" of JAT/iamp have a lot of value, and putting them with other confirmed town would give them good insulation. Let's not forget who voted for VE over Oats:
With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Hint: It's iamp.
Both of them were on TTS at one point. Iamp was moving his vote almost as much as Oats was. Iamp was on three different townies' wagons on the day of a red flip, and stuck to it in the end.
haha the top master TL players not seeing that oats just put bad town/easy Townlynch in his scumlist.
On March 20 2024 09:37 DarthPunk wrote: Also Jealous, all the Jealous/dmb arguments that you made with it making no sense to be teamed also apply to me and DMB.
sure you can say we are bussing now, but the same can be said for you and her so...
well i think the argument would be you were defending her for a majority of the game to steer discussion away. Could say the same to me.
of course there were better lynchs at ealier moments. They easiest townlynch comes last for mafia safty. Thats why he helped me earlier in the game or gave me a townread
On March 20 2024 09:37 DarthPunk wrote: Also Jealous, all the Jealous/dmb arguments that you made with it making no sense to be teamed also apply to me and DMB.
sure you can say we are bussing now, but the same can be said for you and her so...
well i think the argument would be you were defending her for a majority of the game to steer discussion away. Could say the same to me.
of course there were better lynchs at ealier moments. They easiest townlynch comes last for mafia safty. Thats why he helped me earlier in the game or gave me a townread
On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote: There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team.
I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia.
Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.-
On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote: There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team.
I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia.
Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.-
i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now.
Because the game is over us. We will not get 3 mafia lynchs in a row Even when we lynch J today and he is scum and I am right I still could not handle another 2 days conviencing town here that I am Town I would be the misslynch anyway when it is not today then nice that I could defent myself from scum dp for 1 day but I will get lynched d2 or at the latest in three days if we come this far.
On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote: There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team.
I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia.
Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.-
i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now.
It’s continued appeal to emotion obviously
It´s just Town DMB giving up because we can not win this game anymore anyways
On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote: There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team.
I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia.
Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.-
i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now.
Because the game is over us. We will not get 3 mafia lynchs in a row Even when we lynch J today and he is scum and I am right I still could not handle another 2 days conviencing town here that I am Town I would be the misslynch anyway when it is not today then nice that I could defent myself from scum dp for 1 day but I will get lynched d2 or at the latest in three days if we come this far.
On March 21 2024 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: I mean, the iamp dp idea is frightening but I don't think that is very likely.
Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here.
It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town.
Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it.
Also, I mean, does this movement from town make sense to you?
In theory it could be three scum just eating popcorn, but that would then have to be (assuming you are town) DMB, Rels, and MZ. Does that team sound plausible to you?
How could I be in a team with Rels? Nobody was suspicious about Rels until I drew DP and Vivax's attention to my theory and they discussed it. Why should I draw people's attention to Rels in the first place if nobody finds anything suspicious about him and if he would be my "scum colleague"?
On March 21 2024 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: I mean, the iamp dp idea is frightening but I don't think that is very likely.
Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here.
It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town.
Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it.
It's just one possibility, I plan on doing more but work is demanding today.
It's one of the first I explored because it is indeed scary as mentioned above, and if it is the case, the game is shaping up almost exactly in their favor. Hammer Palmar, receive 0% of the heat for it, say "I am never voting iamp" and then ride off into the sunset on free ML on me or potential ML on DMB.
My feeling still is that DMB is objectively scummy, that her reads flip on me makes 0 fucking sense, the multiple slips/near-slips, and that stuff like the German thing/all of the dumbtells is just too much. However, it is counterbalanced by my having made basically the same exact "mistake" with CopCake. There is undeniably a non-zero chance that DMB is town, and if that is the case, then the game will have played out exactly as scum would want. And who was the scum that set up this situation, then? That's what this first proposed analysis was about.
And again, I see almost no way that DMB and DP are on a team together, unless their plan to spread scum around when she went to DP. However, around that time, Vivax was openly thirsting to lynch DP IIRC, so that would have been a really dumb plan. So, I find it more likely that DMB and DP can't both be scum.
I know that I'm not scum with DMB and that's the theory that several others have been pushing, so I know that town is going into an objectively wrong direction, too. That's why I felt like I had to do something, because I know that if town sentiment is "lynch DMB or Jealous, then lynch the other," that is an autoloss for town.
I was long unsure what aligment you could most likely have. I like to compare games from the people. Your old game (even when it was 8 years ago) made me think you are kinda Town, but I didn´t like how you were posting after the Koshi nk. That was the point were I was more sure you could possibly be scum. At the time were you and CC were the vote wagons. I was really not so sure about your aligment and I am not supposed to vote outside of the wagons otherwise I get shit on my head from Town. I had to deside which one of you two I should vote, so I rather voted on CC who wanted to get out of the game and yes I thougt of her as town, but I was also unsure about you. So sorry to vote the one who really seemed sad in the game. When there was the next lynch between you and Palmar, I already got so annoyed and paranoid about two wagons who are pushed by Dp again, that I didn´t want to vote any wagon pushed by him. And there happend the (Town)mistake that I tried to avoid one lynch before. Not voting outside of the wagons or I will get called scum. I knew that voting outside will get me scumpoints. So my question is why should I make chaos here and getting more attantion instead of just voting Palmar or you? After the lynch and the Koshi nightkill I was more pissed about my self because maybe I should have voted for you.
Also vivax changed his vote to cc because of dp pushing and asking us to vote CC. He was Town. I am Town. We were morons for listining to scumDP for this.
On March 21 2024 07:40 DarthPunk wrote: If dmb is mafia she would be bussed here 1000% of the time.
I am not bussing my teammates Look back. I kinda tried to ignore my teammates. made a short read on rayn in a list post. Didn´t talk to him in thread. Just tried to talk to everbody else. Thats not how I played and how I would play
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.
This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.
why do you townread dp so strong? why would he shoot TTS? Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it. Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed how does that make sense?
I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.
No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.
You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.
why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk. Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch????? How can you not see that
DP/Rels
Stop saying that, its not true, I have a better fucking record than the person I am voting for, so why do you not scum read palmar for never voting for scum this game.
because palmar is just a fucking dick of town! and I refuse to vote on any of your wagons
You're mafia then I guess.
Half the wagons I have pushed haven't even flipped.
you basiclly pushed on everybody
CC had the hardest time here VE trfel
I blame you for that. You shoot you teammate because it make sense. You voted oats because every other vote would be scum as hell Not voting on a cop confirmed red one is scum as hell not other option. So that does not make you town thats makes you scum for me
I will not vote on your wagons! Never !
Ugh, but DMB says "I will never vote on your wagons" then at the first possible chance votes for me anyway. How are all of these discordant ideas capable of living inside one person and how does one read a person like that as anything but scummy?
Yeah because as Town you could not forgett who got nk few minutes before. This made think of you as mafia. This hole shit after we didn´t lynch you this made me suspioses about you
On March 21 2024 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: I mean, the iamp dp idea is frightening but I don't think that is very likely.
Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here.
It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town.
Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it.
Also, I mean, does this movement from town make sense to you?
In theory it could be three scum just eating popcorn, but that would then have to be (assuming you are town) DMB, Rels, and MZ. Does that team sound plausible to you?
I wouldn't call that eating popcorn considering the time in which this happened. Also, I really do not know why you think iamp and dp have to be of the same alignment.
I mean, the remaining four players are the only ones who didn't change their vote, and none were potential lynch targets. So, that's basically eating popcorn.
Okay, so what alignments do you think make sense with this vote movement?
Various different ones. Obviously the easiest would be you are mafia with dmb and one of mz/dp. Just from the voting it obviously also could be iamp or Rels. If you are town it can be dp + any of those too. I don't think the wagon was ever a realistic one. Tinfoil theory here is still that dp told dmb to bus him. That's why just looking at votes alone is quite useless.
Yea... Now that I am going through DMB's filter from that day, the way she went berserk feels overly dramatic as hell (quoted recently), just like yesterday's German.
I think that DMB wouldn't also try to bus a non-factor Rels at the same time, though. So I think Rels would be town there, unless scum's whole plan was to bus the entire game and somehow get away with (Oats on TTS, and DMB, DMB on Oats, DP on DMB and DMB on DP, etc.).
I already said it and I say it again. Nobody suspected Rels. Nobody besides maybe Palmar talked about Rels. Rels were in such a safe postion that it would be so unnecessary of a scumDMB to make people pay attention on Rels.
On March 18 2024 10:46 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote] why do you townread dp so strong? why would he shoot TTS? Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it. Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed how does that make sense?
I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.
No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.
You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.
why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk. Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch????? How can you not see that
DP/Rels
Stop saying that, its not true, I have a better fucking record than the person I am voting for, so why do you not scum read palmar for never voting for scum this game.
because palmar is just a fucking dick of town! and I refuse to vote on any of your wagons
You're mafia then I guess.
Half the wagons I have pushed haven't even flipped.
you basiclly pushed on everybody
CC had the hardest time here VE trfel
I blame you for that. You shoot you teammate because it make sense. You voted oats because every other vote would be scum as hell Not voting on a cop confirmed red one is scum as hell not other option. So that does not make you town thats makes you scum for me
I will not vote on your wagons! Never !
Ugh, but DMB says "I will never vote on your wagons" then at the first possible chance votes for me anyway. How are all of these discordant ideas capable of living inside one person and how does one read a person like that as anything but scummy?
Yeah because as Town you could not forgett who got nk few minutes before. This made think of you as mafia. This hole shit after we didn´t lynch you this made me suspioses about you
This makes no sense mafia are less likely to forget nk than town.
why that? The first thing I do is to go back on the last nk. Reading this man again. Try to find out why koshi or whoever got night killed and try to get information out of it. Who would need him dead. Who was his last reads. Are his reads possibly good or just so bad the they kill him for making town to lynch his wrong reads .... How the hell can you forgett the nk. It´s such importend to find out who scum is and to get more sure about the reads a townmember already has
On March 21 2024 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: I mean, the iamp dp idea is frightening but I don't think that is very likely.
Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here.
It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town.
Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it.
It's just one possibility, I plan on doing more but work is demanding today.
It's one of the first I explored because it is indeed scary as mentioned above, and if it is the case, the game is shaping up almost exactly in their favor. Hammer Palmar, receive 0% of the heat for it, say "I am never voting iamp" and then ride off into the sunset on free ML on me or potential ML on DMB.
My feeling still is that DMB is objectively scummy, that her reads flip on me makes 0 fucking sense, the multiple slips/near-slips, and that stuff like the German thing/all of the dumbtells is just too much. However, it is counterbalanced by my having made basically the same exact "mistake" with CopCake. There is undeniably a non-zero chance that DMB is town, and if that is the case, then the game will have played out exactly as scum would want. And who was the scum that set up this situation, then? That's what this first proposed analysis was about.
And again, I see almost no way that DMB and DP are on a team together, unless their plan to spread scum around when she went to DP. However, around that time, Vivax was openly thirsting to lynch DP IIRC, so that would have been a really dumb plan. So, I find it more likely that DMB and DP can't both be scum.
I know that I'm not scum with DMB and that's the theory that several others have been pushing, so I know that town is going into an objectively wrong direction, too. That's why I felt like I had to do something, because I know that if town sentiment is "lynch DMB or Jealous, then lynch the other," that is an autoloss for town.
I was long unsure what aligment you could most likely have. I like to compare games from the people. Your old game (even when it was 8 years ago) made me think you are kinda Town, but I didn´t like how you were posting after the Koshi nk. That was the point were I was more sure you could possibly be scum. At the time were you and CC were the vote wagons. I was really not so sure about your aligment and I am not supposed to vote outside of the wagons otherwise I get shit on my head from Town. I had to deside which one of you two I should vote, so I rather voted on CC who wanted to get out of the game and yes I thougt of her as town, but I was also unsure about you. So sorry to vote the one who really seemed sad in the game. When there was the next lynch between you and Palmar, I already got so annoyed and paranoid about two wagons who are pushed by Dp again, that I didn´t want to vote any wagon pushed by him. And there happend the (Town)mistake that I tried to avoid one lynch before. Not voting outside of the wagons or I will get called scum. I knew that voting outside will get me scumpoints. So my question is why should I make chaos here and getting more attantion instead of just voting Palmar or you? After the lynch and the Koshi nightkill I was more pissed about my self because maybe I should have voted for you.
Also vivax changed his vote to cc because of dp pushing and asking us to vote CC. He was Town. I am Town. We were morons for listining to scumDP for this.
So you think the team is Rels + DP + me, then?
Pretty sure. But I wouldn't put it past Dp to turn it around and try to make 2 townies the vote wagons in the last lynch. So there could be a litte chance that you are town just because I am getting so fucking paranoid about DP
On March 21 2024 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: I mean, the iamp dp idea is frightening but I don't think that is very likely.
Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here.
It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town.
Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it.
Also, I mean, does this movement from town make sense to you?
In theory it could be three scum just eating popcorn, but that would then have to be (assuming you are town) DMB, Rels, and MZ. Does that team sound plausible to you?
I wouldn't call that eating popcorn considering the time in which this happened. Also, I really do not know why you think iamp and dp have to be of the same alignment.
I mean, the remaining four players are the only ones who didn't change their vote, and none were potential lynch targets. So, that's basically eating popcorn.
Okay, so what alignments do you think make sense with this vote movement?
Various different ones. Obviously the easiest would be you are mafia with dmb and one of mz/dp. Just from the voting it obviously also could be iamp or Rels. If you are town it can be dp + any of those too. I don't think the wagon was ever a realistic one. Tinfoil theory here is still that dp told dmb to bus him. That's why just looking at votes alone is quite useless.
Yea... Now that I am going through DMB's filter from that day, the way she went berserk feels overly dramatic as hell (quoted recently), just like yesterday's German.
I think that DMB wouldn't also try to bus a non-factor Rels at the same time, though. So I think Rels would be town there, unless scum's whole plan was to bus the entire game and somehow get away with (Oats on TTS, and DMB, DMB on Oats, DP on DMB and DMB on DP, etc.).
I already said it and I say it again. Nobody suspected Rels. Nobody besides maybe Palmar talked about Rels. Rels were in such a safe postion that it would be so unnecessary of a scumDMB to make people pay attention on Rels.
You still have not reevaluated or justified that read after being told it is based on totally incorrect assumptions though.
So I have to make a read on 3 people to stop my lycnh what will anyways not happen? For today I would just be happy if town would see who dp pushed the town in the wrong direction as director of the thread.
On March 21 2024 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: I mean, the iamp dp idea is frightening but I don't think that is very likely.
Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here.
It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town.
Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it.
It's just one possibility, I plan on doing more but work is demanding today.
It's one of the first I explored because it is indeed scary as mentioned above, and if it is the case, the game is shaping up almost exactly in their favor. Hammer Palmar, receive 0% of the heat for it, say "I am never voting iamp" and then ride off into the sunset on free ML on me or potential ML on DMB.
My feeling still is that DMB is objectively scummy, that her reads flip on me makes 0 fucking sense, the multiple slips/near-slips, and that stuff like the German thing/all of the dumbtells is just too much. However, it is counterbalanced by my having made basically the same exact "mistake" with CopCake. There is undeniably a non-zero chance that DMB is town, and if that is the case, then the game will have played out exactly as scum would want. And who was the scum that set up this situation, then? That's what this first proposed analysis was about.
And again, I see almost no way that DMB and DP are on a team together, unless their plan to spread scum around when she went to DP. However, around that time, Vivax was openly thirsting to lynch DP IIRC, so that would have been a really dumb plan. So, I find it more likely that DMB and DP can't both be scum.
I know that I'm not scum with DMB and that's the theory that several others have been pushing, so I know that town is going into an objectively wrong direction, too. That's why I felt like I had to do something, because I know that if town sentiment is "lynch DMB or Jealous, then lynch the other," that is an autoloss for town.
I was long unsure what aligment you could most likely have. I like to compare games from the people. Your old game (even when it was 8 years ago) made me think you are kinda Town, but I didn´t like how you were posting after the Koshi nk. That was the point were I was more sure you could possibly be scum. At the time were you and CC were the vote wagons. I was really not so sure about your aligment and I am not supposed to vote outside of the wagons otherwise I get shit on my head from Town. I had to deside which one of you two I should vote, so I rather voted on CC who wanted to get out of the game and yes I thougt of her as town, but I was also unsure about you. So sorry to vote the one who really seemed sad in the game. When there was the next lynch between you and Palmar, I already got so annoyed and paranoid about two wagons who are pushed by Dp again, that I didn´t want to vote any wagon pushed by him. And there happend the (Town)mistake that I tried to avoid one lynch before. Not voting outside of the wagons or I will get called scum. I knew that voting outside will get me scumpoints. So my question is why should I make chaos here and getting more attantion instead of just voting Palmar or you? After the lynch and the Koshi nightkill I was more pissed about my self because maybe I should have voted for you.
Also vivax changed his vote to cc because of dp pushing and asking us to vote CC. He was Town. I am Town. We were morons for listining to scumDP for this.
So you think the team is Rels + DP + me, then?
Pretty sure. But I wouldn't put it past Dp to turn it around and try to make 2 townies the vote wagons in the last lynch. So there could be a litte chance that you are town just because I am getting so fucking paranoid about DP
You started the fucking wagon on jealous! I have been on you the whole time!!
after the koshi nk before I had nothing to do with the vote wagons who were up
On March 21 2024 07:59 die_meatbaby wrote: you pushed all the vote wagons you are the reason why there are still mafia alive you were so activ that nobody is thinking it´s possibole as mafia
On March 21 2024 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: I mean, the iamp dp idea is frightening but I don't think that is very likely.
Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here.
It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town.
Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it.
It's just one possibility, I plan on doing more but work is demanding today.
It's one of the first I explored because it is indeed scary as mentioned above, and if it is the case, the game is shaping up almost exactly in their favor. Hammer Palmar, receive 0% of the heat for it, say "I am never voting iamp" and then ride off into the sunset on free ML on me or potential ML on DMB.
My feeling still is that DMB is objectively scummy, that her reads flip on me makes 0 fucking sense, the multiple slips/near-slips, and that stuff like the German thing/all of the dumbtells is just too much. However, it is counterbalanced by my having made basically the same exact "mistake" with CopCake. There is undeniably a non-zero chance that DMB is town, and if that is the case, then the game will have played out exactly as scum would want. And who was the scum that set up this situation, then? That's what this first proposed analysis was about.
And again, I see almost no way that DMB and DP are on a team together, unless their plan to spread scum around when she went to DP. However, around that time, Vivax was openly thirsting to lynch DP IIRC, so that would have been a really dumb plan. So, I find it more likely that DMB and DP can't both be scum.
I know that I'm not scum with DMB and that's the theory that several others have been pushing, so I know that town is going into an objectively wrong direction, too. That's why I felt like I had to do something, because I know that if town sentiment is "lynch DMB or Jealous, then lynch the other," that is an autoloss for town.
I was long unsure what aligment you could most likely have. I like to compare games from the people. Your old game (even when it was 8 years ago) made me think you are kinda Town, but I didn´t like how you were posting after the Koshi nk. That was the point were I was more sure you could possibly be scum. At the time were you and CC were the vote wagons. I was really not so sure about your aligment and I am not supposed to vote outside of the wagons otherwise I get shit on my head from Town. I had to deside which one of you two I should vote, so I rather voted on CC who wanted to get out of the game and yes I thougt of her as town, but I was also unsure about you. So sorry to vote the one who really seemed sad in the game. When there was the next lynch between you and Palmar, I already got so annoyed and paranoid about two wagons who are pushed by Dp again, that I didn´t want to vote any wagon pushed by him. And there happend the (Town)mistake that I tried to avoid one lynch before. Not voting outside of the wagons or I will get called scum. I knew that voting outside will get me scumpoints. So my question is why should I make chaos here and getting more attantion instead of just voting Palmar or you? After the lynch and the Koshi nightkill I was more pissed about my self because maybe I should have voted for you.
Also vivax changed his vote to cc because of dp pushing and asking us to vote CC. He was Town. I am Town. We were morons for listining to scumDP for this.
So you think the team is Rels + DP + me, then?
Pretty sure. But I wouldn't put it past Dp to turn it around and try to make 2 townies the vote wagons in the last lynch. So there could be a litte chance that you are town just because I am getting so fucking paranoid about DP
You started the fucking wagon on jealous! I have been on you the whole time!!
you told town to not vote me until you needed the last misslynch nice plan. Sad that it function
On March 21 2024 06:57 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it.
Also, I mean, does this movement from town make sense to you?
In theory it could be three scum just eating popcorn, but that would then have to be (assuming you are town) DMB, Rels, and MZ. Does that team sound plausible to you?
I wouldn't call that eating popcorn considering the time in which this happened. Also, I really do not know why you think iamp and dp have to be of the same alignment.
I mean, the remaining four players are the only ones who didn't change their vote, and none were potential lynch targets. So, that's basically eating popcorn.
Okay, so what alignments do you think make sense with this vote movement?
Various different ones. Obviously the easiest would be you are mafia with dmb and one of mz/dp. Just from the voting it obviously also could be iamp or Rels. If you are town it can be dp + any of those too. I don't think the wagon was ever a realistic one. Tinfoil theory here is still that dp told dmb to bus him. That's why just looking at votes alone is quite useless.
Yea... Now that I am going through DMB's filter from that day, the way she went berserk feels overly dramatic as hell (quoted recently), just like yesterday's German.
I think that DMB wouldn't also try to bus a non-factor Rels at the same time, though. So I think Rels would be town there, unless scum's whole plan was to bus the entire game and somehow get away with (Oats on TTS, and DMB, DMB on Oats, DP on DMB and DMB on DP, etc.).
I already said it and I say it again. Nobody suspected Rels. Nobody besides maybe Palmar talked about Rels. Rels were in such a safe postion that it would be so unnecessary of a scumDMB to make people pay attention on Rels.
You still have not reevaluated or justified that read after being told it is based on totally incorrect assumptions though.
So I have to make a read on 3 people to stop my lycnh what will anyways not happen? For today I would just be happy if town would see who dp pushed the town in the wrong direction as director of the thread.
Yeah, after well over 500 pages I would except your second strongest scumread to be based on more than "was too correct voting early in the game". Especially since it is not even true that he was particularly correct. That does not suggest you are thinking about the game critically at all.
Rels and dp didn´t really talk to each other until the had to because of me. The just feels like the same I did in my last game. I didn´t talk to rayn or tried to commicate as less as possibole with him. Solid read where I don´t need talk about more with town. Same thing I saw with CC and Vivax when they were mafia togther in an older game.
On March 21 2024 07:59 die_meatbaby wrote: you pushed all the vote wagons you are the reason why there are still mafia alive you were so activ that nobody is thinking it´s possibole as mafia
3 mafia
I’m also why 2 mafia are dead.
You had nothing to do with oats death. Like, come on.
Yes I did I made sure town didn’t lose its damn mind and lynch ve instead.
Go read back. It was fucking close too.
so why didn´t you stop the Ve lynch? you had even a vote on him and switched it back to cc
your are leading town here. You are the master of the thread. When you were saying stop lynching weak/bad town like DMB or Ve. Then why didn´t you stop that lynch. You played often enough with Ve. You knew he get easy lynch with slow pushing. You even had a vote on him. You didn´t to a shit about that. You were like no no I am just for a CC lynch. Fuck that shit you pushed the ve lynch slightly and stayed mostly on the CC vote because Ve is anyways so scummy that you don´t have to do much to get Town lynching him.
On March 21 2024 07:59 die_meatbaby wrote: you pushed all the vote wagons you are the reason why there are still mafia alive you were so activ that nobody is thinking it´s possibole as mafia
3 mafia
I’m also why 2 mafia are dead.
You had nothing to do with oats death. Like, come on.
Yes I did I made sure town didn’t lose its damn mind and lynch ve instead.
Go read back. It was fucking close too.
so why didn´t you stop the Ve lynch? you had even a vote on him and switched it back to cc
your are leading town here. You are the master of the thread. When you were saying stop lynching weak/bad town like DMB or Ve. Then why didn´t you stop that lynch. You played often enough with Ve. You knew he get easy lynch with slow pushing. You even had a vote on him. You didn´t to a shit about that. You were like no no I am just for a CC lynch. Fuck that shit you pushed the ve lynch slightly and stayed mostly on the CC vote because Ve is anyways so scummy that you don´t have to do much to get Town lynching him.
I tried really hard to lynch cake over ve if you remember.
I wasn’t on the ve lynch at all.
But it wasn’t clear to me that he was not mafia either. Or too anyone that was town.
On March 11 2024 22:31 Grackaroni wrote: Day Three VoteCount
With 6 votes, VisceraEyes is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
On March 13 2024 06:16 DarthPunk wrote: I’m just assuming cake is town now. You all can deal with her at mylo I don’t care anymore
okey read her as town and directly got back on her
On March 13 2024 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:
I blame everyone not on her wagon.
Him pushing the CC lynch and making Rels looking good because he know cc will flip green wouldn´t make sense that rels and cc were mafia together
On March 12 2024 12:03 DarthPunk wrote: Rels is mafia if cop is mafia btw
why can you not just give your read or do you have to wait until town make reads and you can see why they are making this read and simply adapt yourself
On March 13 2024 12:58 die_meatbaby wrote: @dp do you think vivax could be mafia?
I don't want to answer this yet. See what people say first.
So when mafia flips then rels looks bad? what happend after the cake flip? Where you suspicious of Rels after the flip? No you were not. You talked about Rels at the moment I told you and vivax that I am suspicious about the perfect filter...
On March 13 2024 14:29 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah I think it’s more likely. I think your alignment is really important because if you are town some people look way worse. Rels in particular also jealous to a certain extent.
If you are mafia, then koshi and perfection look worse for example.
What’s the most posts you ever had in a game cake?
What changed? Do I have another mafia game with another meta? You think this is my mafia meta right now?
On March 13 2024 17:19 DarthPunk wrote: Actually I think DMB is just completely cleared.
With the multiple wagons forming on her from oats, the weird oats vote.
DMB looking town in her own right, plus meta differences.
You were voting rels after I told you why I don´t like the oracle but only for a half hour and this last senctence her. Why do I not fucking forget this senctence. Why do I have the feeling you told us already the truth QUOTE]On March 15 2024 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 22:37 sandroba wrote: I'm liking palmar more and more. His night posts read really genuine to me, maybe I'm a fool but I'm prob not going after palmar d2. Marv had some paranoind behavior in the qt which has fully convinced me he is town. I think these are the big question marks for people and I think they are both town.
By process of elimination here is what I'm at: Likely mafia: ve + rels - both didn't care one bit about the lynch imo Depending on TTS being mafia or town it leave us 2/3 mafia in this pile: mz, jsl, jat, cop, dmb, slam
This is where I'm at.
Aside from sandro thinking JSL mafia at end of night at most we have this as slightly indicative of Rels. Makes me a tad paranoid Jealous isn't among those but do I want to resort to NK wifom?
I'll accept shenannies onto Rels maybe.
I prefer a Rels lynch but I also realise that is going to trigger all your jealous and dp are partnered paranoia.
sadly I didn´t found the main post from Dp that I searched for were he was writing. Town do not lynch any weak town because this will more likly get us to misslynch So this is what you doeing right now. Makeing the next fucking misslynch with weaktown
On March 21 2024 08:55 DarthPunk wrote: I don't know what you are getting at there aside from demonstrating how reads change and develop over time.
For example, I once thought rels was mafia for TMI, now I think he is town. Things change.
oh yeah rels has to be mafia when cake flips mafia.. ohhh if cake flips green rels has to be mafia...
4 hours between this two posts... no reasons for that or why this would clear rels aligment and switching from he has to be in her team to oh he defently is not with her in a team
there were no fucking reasons for you to chance you mind about this There were no reasons that cakes aligment clears rels aligment
On March 21 2024 08:55 DarthPunk wrote: I don't know what you are getting at there aside from demonstrating how reads change and develop over time.
For example, I once thought rels was mafia for TMI, now I think he is town. Things change.
oh yeah rels has to be mafia when cake flips mafia.. ohhh if cake flips green rels has to be mafia...
4 hours between this two posts... no reasons for that or why this would clear rels aligment and switching from he has to be in her team to oh he defently is not with her in a team
there were no fucking reasons for you to chance you mind about this There were no reasons that cakes aligment clears rels aligment
The obvious thing is I thought both were true.
HOW would have cakes aligment cleard rels aligment in any fucking way?
On March 21 2024 08:55 DarthPunk wrote: I don't know what you are getting at there aside from demonstrating how reads change and develop over time.
For example, I once thought rels was mafia for TMI, now I think he is town. Things change.
oh yeah rels has to be mafia when cake flips mafia.. ohhh if cake flips green rels has to be mafia...
4 hours between this two posts... no reasons for that or why this would clear rels aligment and switching from he has to be in her team to oh he defently is not with her in a team
there were no fucking reasons for you to chance you mind about this There were no reasons that cakes aligment clears rels aligment
The obvious thing is I thought both were true.
HOW would have cakes aligment cleard rels aligment in any fucking way?
obviously it wouldn't because I said he was mafia if she was green or red.
This just doesn´t make any sense you were just trying to get Rels more towncreds for none available reasons why would a TownDP to such a thing
this game feels like the austrian government in 1940 And the votes I have to make in order not to look scummy feels like voting for russian president. Something is very wrong in this game Corruption... I want a lawyer
On March 21 2024 08:55 DarthPunk wrote: I don't know what you are getting at there aside from demonstrating how reads change and develop over time.
For example, I once thought rels was mafia for TMI, now I think he is town. Things change.
oh yeah rels has to be mafia when cake flips mafia.. ohhh if cake flips green rels has to be mafia...
4 hours between this two posts... no reasons for that or why this would clear rels aligment and switching from he has to be in her team to oh he defently is not with her in a team
there were no fucking reasons for you to chance you mind about this There were no reasons that cakes aligment clears rels aligment
The obvious thing is I thought both were true.
HOW would have cakes aligment cleard rels aligment in any fucking way?
obviously it wouldn't because I said he was mafia if she was green or red.
This just doesn´t make any sense you were just trying to get Rels more towncreds for none available reasons why would a TownDP to such a thing
Wasnt I calling him mafia at the time?
why is that town creds?
because you make it look like rels has to be town if cake is town and there were no reason that this two were playing together. Just doesn´t make sense for a downDP to do this. No conection nothing in eithe filter what could let us think that they were playing togther. Just no reason that this would make sense. pointless reason that cakes flip would have told us anything about rels aligment
And you no what. I don´t fucking care anymore You played you scum game good but not good enough for me. But you wish is getting true they lynching the last weak town.
This Town does not give any shit about what I post here. This town is lost as fuck and does not accept that there is a reason why DMB is left and why he safed my for any earlier misslynch or chance to be on a vote wagon because I am looking so scummy lets be her the last and most importend misslynch. This Town does not chance the votes and don´t give a fuck about what cases I make her
I accept my death and the end of the game and the loss for Town But I want do die in honour and vote my main scumread ##Unvote ## Vote DarthPunk
are you guys really think I believe that there is nobody online besides Dp one hour before the lynch who will either end the game or give us finally a scum I don´t even get a chance here. My feeling is right with the corruption I shouldn´t even invested time today in this game when nobody is interested in my posts anyway. And this town is not allowed to be mad on me after the game is over and is like yeah but she looked so scummy. Fuck off to this town. You didn´t even care about what I was writting. I take no blame on this high lost game, because your egos are too big for a reread and accepting that I may be right with my dp reads and you just don´t accept that there is a possibilty that I am Town. Pls believe you master dp. Did you all not reserve a sock full of shit to get free?
I'm trapped in a hole. Surrounded by people. People who belong to me People who are against me Who has the ladder? How do I get out of here? The landslide will drag my nice neighbours in with me and together we'll go to holy obs heaven
On March 21 2024 10:13 Rels wrote: Even as scum TBH, this level of effort for what should be a bus day is impressive
and what does it change? I am still in the same postion as before I am the reason that town gonna lose I have less energy then before and I am getting even more sorrowful, while writing for nobody, because nobody is interested on what I am really
On March 21 2024 10:13 die_meatbaby wrote: I'm trapped in a hole. Surrounded by people. People who belong to me People who are against me Who has the ladder? How do I get out of here? The landslide will drag my nice neighbours in with me and together we'll go to holy obs heaven
Like even this is a slip IMO, cause its implying the game will continue after her death, which if she is town, it will not.
nope I ment town is falling with me in the same hole because they are not helping me
On March 21 2024 10:22 Rels wrote: I'm really sorry DMB. I cannot see you as not scum. Those in particular seal the deal for me: - the forced dumbtell D2 that went on for abnormally long - the Palmar townread based on very thin meta that wasn't even true in my opinion - the CopCake vote on someone you townread was pretty opportunistic, especialyl since CopCake was probably never going to get lynched past that point. I really made town lose a mislynch - you playing like your scum meta last night and today, very sure of your target, very relentless and aggressive. Even going from "I know I'm bad town" which I found kinda townie before that, to some kind of variation of "don't you dare call me bad" lately
The dumbtell was a real question sorry for that. I thought it isn´t that importend to make a solid and long townread on somebody else. I am always compare the meter with old games. That is what I always do as Town. I voted CC because I still have emtions. Believe it or not. I can not change they way I am. I could not see how I played last night like my scum meta. I would have voted the one I am tunneld and not the one were is more chance that town votes this one scumread with me togther
The light at the end of the tunnel, so far away feeling like I am in this place to always stay, the chains around me, pulling me down, tears in my eyes, in despair I drown. The feelings of hopelessnes, taking control, making my emtions flying out of my own soul, Sitting in the cold dark hole, no fun, no joy, no light and all alone.
On March 21 2024 09:49 die_meatbaby wrote: are you guys really think I believe that there is nobody online besides Dp one hour before the lynch who will either end the game or give us finally a scum I don´t even get a chance here. My feeling is right with the corruption I shouldn´t even invested time today in this game when nobody is interested in my posts anyway. And this town is not allowed to be mad on me after the game is over and is like yeah but she looked so scummy. Fuck off to this town. You didn´t even care about what I was writting. I take no blame on this high lost game, because your egos are too big for a reread and accepting that I may be right with my dp reads and you just don´t accept that there is a possibilty that I am Town. Pls believe you master dp. Did you all not reserve a sock full of shit to get free?
I tried. I really tried to see past the fact that your behavior was objectively scummy. I entertained the thought of a DP/iamp team and shared it here. I voted DP with you yesterday.
However, your begging and pleading after you pulled a 180 on me will get you nowhere here. The only person responsible for your position is yourself, regardless of your alignment.
changing fast my reads if I see something what is in my eyes scummy. That is what should make me turn here. Read my mafia game. Thats to risky to make as mafia. Also voting outside of the wagon to risky would have not done that either
Where is the ladder. Please. I am screaming for help It´s cold and lonly here. Town is against me. buried alive my biggest fear it´s coming true Please. Help It´s cold and I can not handle it alone. Where are the humans. Where are the wolves? I just see the moon shining in the darkness
On March 21 2024 09:49 die_meatbaby wrote: are you guys really think I believe that there is nobody online besides Dp one hour before the lynch who will either end the game or give us finally a scum I don´t even get a chance here. My feeling is right with the corruption I shouldn´t even invested time today in this game when nobody is interested in my posts anyway. And this town is not allowed to be mad on me after the game is over and is like yeah but she looked so scummy. Fuck off to this town. You didn´t even care about what I was writting. I take no blame on this high lost game, because your egos are too big for a reread and accepting that I may be right with my dp reads and you just don´t accept that there is a possibilty that I am Town. Pls believe you master dp. Did you all not reserve a sock full of shit to get free?
I tried. I really tried to see past the fact that your behavior was objectively scummy. I entertained the thought of a DP/iamp team and shared it here. I voted DP with you yesterday.
However, your begging and pleading after you pulled a 180 on me will get you nowhere here. The only person responsible for your position is yourself, regardless of your alignment.
changing fast my reads if I see something what is in my eyes scummy. That is what should make me turn here. Read my mafia game. Thats to risky to make as mafia. Also voting outside of the wagon to risky would have not done that either
Okay but you understand that if you're town, you lost one of the only potential allies you had in me the moment you flipped a 180 on me, called me scum, and voted to lynch me after I jumped on DP with you, right? Think about it. I have been one of the few people even willing to entertain the idea that DP could be scum, and you basically decided to bury me despite saying "I WiLl NeVeR vOtE fOr a DP wAgOn AgAiN." So, even if you flip town, you have no one to blame but yourself.
Thats because in my opinion vivax would have deserved to finally see you lynch after I ruined it almost 2 times
On March 21 2024 10:53 Rels wrote: Really hope we see some red, pretty awful game from me otherwise Who would it even be in that case, JAT/MZ/Jealous I guess? DP if you're scum, fucking kudos, most incredible performance ever
On March 21 2024 10:53 Rels wrote: Really hope we see some red, pretty awful game from me otherwise Who would it even be in that case, JAT/MZ/Jealous I guess? DP if you're scum, fucking kudos, most incredible performance ever
I think she flips red, but yes. Otherwise it was Jat/MZ/Jealous I think.
On March 21 2024 10:53 Rels wrote: Really hope we see some red, pretty awful game from me otherwise Who would it even be in that case, JAT/MZ/Jealous I guess? DP if you're scum, fucking kudos, most incredible performance ever
I think she flips red, but yes. Otherwise it was Jat/MZ/Jealous I think.
but I think that is much less likely.
This is a pretty great performance from DMB.
you know that this is already way over my mafia meta
On March 21 2024 10:53 Rels wrote: Really hope we see some red, pretty awful game from me otherwise Who would it even be in that case, JAT/MZ/Jealous I guess? DP if you're scum, fucking kudos, most incredible performance ever
I think she flips red, but yes. Otherwise it was Jat/MZ/Jealous I think.
but I think that is much less likely.
This is a pretty great performance from DMB.
it great because its not a perfomance
I hope this is not true.
I have a 90% winrate at endgames, and this would give it a beating.
when you are really town then I have to say this is the worst town game I have ever seen by you
On March 21 2024 10:53 Rels wrote: Really hope we see some red, pretty awful game from me otherwise Who would it even be in that case, JAT/MZ/Jealous I guess? DP if you're scum, fucking kudos, most incredible performance ever
I think she flips red, but yes. Otherwise it was Jat/MZ/Jealous I think.
but I think that is much less likely.
This is a pretty great performance from DMB.
it great because its not a perfomance
I hope this is not true.
I have a 90% winrate at endgames, and this would give it a beating.
when you are really town then I have to say this is the worst town game I have ever seen by you
Fuck off DMB, I fucking shot mafia.
yeah and not seeing the lonly depressing town getting the reason that this game is lost for town.. uhh what a good town game from you..
EPT
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