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Vivax it's mechanical, I don't think he has it out for you personally he disliked the claim and doesn't want it's slot having night kill protection. I'm pretty sure jat hasn't even said what he thinks of your alignment definitively, he just doesn't want the claimed jk to have protection. Which I agree with.
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On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor.
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Gotta delurk for now, will be back in a few hours
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On March 06 2024 06:06 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 23:12 sandroba wrote:JAT: catches up to the thread but basically only ever comments on Koshi related stuff. A lot of his commentary is meaningless and his questions are not sharp. He apparently wants Koshi for mayor, but this is not a real position since koshi himself wants vivax and it doesn't seem like jat really wants it or thinks it's a realistic thing that will happen. It just fills up space and buddies up to koshi. On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn? The above post is complacent and disinterested. The reasoning for Vivax possibly being mafia is very shallow analysis and very lazily written, not trying to convince anyone. JAT is solely focused on this mayor thing, he is not very involved and he is making no effort to actually find anyone that is suspicious. He is sticking to easy topics and being lazy in his comments. Even the mayor thing he doesn't care enough about to make any real contributions. He cares about nothing, yet he is still posting here pretending to engage. JAT is mafia. Is that still all you have on me, sandro? I think I explained all I have done here more than sufficiently. Unlike you, I think the mayor vote is quite important. I post the same thing to you as I did to Rayn - what am I supposed to do about it at this point? The post you quote is not disinterested or complacent. It is rather resignating/annoyed. Of course I do not have very good reasoning for Vivax being mafia - I never even called him mafia in the first place. I just don't agree that the claim makes him confirmed town or even more likely town than Koshi. I think that your characterization does not fit my play at all. That's all I have, I've been looking at a couple of mafia games from you and the style seems similar. Compared to the town game I saw you had more pointed questions and relevant commentary. Granted all I found were old games and I confess the posting style between mafia and town is pretty similar. I think the sharpness of the content is the biggest difference and that is mostly subjective. I also confess that I like your posts more since after I called you out, but that doesn't mean you aren't mafia. What I'm dwelling on is would you as mafia make such low-effort replies when asked to explain your reads or would you be trying to come up with something more well thought out? I think the average mafia would tend towards the latter.
Checks out.
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On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor.
Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor.
For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight.
If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs.
If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this.
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On March 06 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor. Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor. For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight. If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs. If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this.
Lol how does mafia look for BGs
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On March 06 2024 06:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor. Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor. For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight. If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs. If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this. Lol how does mafia look for BGs
That's the neat part, they can't.
Hapa foresaw this and just conceded when he saw me claiming JK.
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On March 06 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor. Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor. For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight. If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs. If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this.
I'm this thread, vivax wants to kill Jat for disagreeing with him on Mafia theory. Details at 11.
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On March 06 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor. Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor. For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight. If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs. If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this.
The logic only works if scum cannot roleblock you. Which they more than likely can. You have a tendency for really questionable plays as is evidenced by claiming here in the first place. I don't want a mayor like that. I want someone who I can be as confident as possible about regarding his alignment and who ideally can shepherd town in a good direction in the coming days when influential townies will die in the night. Koshi is the better choice for both these things in my opinion. But we are turning in circles at this point.
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On March 06 2024 06:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor. Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor. For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight. If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs. If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this. Lol how does mafia look for BGs That's the neat part, they can't. Hapa foresaw this and just conceded when he saw me claiming JK.
At this point, why would scum continue to fight against your election?
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At this point you are basically a VT if you are town.
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... This again? Just let Vivax be Mayor or call him scum.
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My apologies, I don't have time to play today. I'll try and catch up later tonight or tomorrow.
Voting for Vivax and Palmar, I don't particularly know why, I'll try and check in to see if I need to switch votes. If I get lynched so be it.
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On March 06 2024 06:33 Trfel wrote:
My apologies, I don't have time to play today. I'll try and catch up later tonight or tomorrow.
Voting for Vivax and Palmar, I don't particularly know why, I'll try and check in to see if I need to switch votes. If I get lynched so be it.
I mean ok
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I guess it's become my duty to play spot the mafia.
VE looks a little worse btw
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On March 06 2024 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor. Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor. For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight. If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs. If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this. I'm this thread, vivax wants to kill Jat for disagreeing with him on Mafia theory. Details at 11.
Not quite but it's all he keeps talking about.
Once this day is finally over we can talk reads. He acts as if mayor gives you superpowers besides unkillability and says he'd rather have Koshi alive but doesn't take a piece of any advice Koshi says lmao
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On March 06 2024 06:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor. Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor. For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight. If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs. If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this. I'm this thread, vivax wants to kill Jat for disagreeing with him on Mafia theory. Details at 11. Not quite but it's all he keeps talking about. Once this day is finally over we can talk reads. He acts as if mayor gives you superpowers besides unkillability and says he'd rather have Koshi alive but doesn't take a piece of any advice Koshi says lmao
In my experience that is the best way to deal with Koshi 100 % of the time :D
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On March 06 2024 06:25 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so. I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor. Me and DP laid it out already why it's beneficial to have a JK as mayor. For scum it's like having a clock ticking against them to fight. If you make a VT mayor they don't even give a damn about killing the mayor. With me as mayor you force them to look for BGs. If I agree with sandro wanting to kill you it's because you can't see this. The logic only works if scum cannot roleblock you. Which they more than likely can. You have a tendency for really questionable plays as is evidenced by claiming here in the first place. I don't want a mayor like that. I want someone who I can be as confident as possible about regarding his alignment and who ideally can shepherd town in a good direction in the coming days when influential townies will die in the night. Koshi is the better choice for both these things in my opinion. But we are turning in circles at this point.
So why do you think Koshi shepherds town in a good direction when you're not listening to a thing he says?
You must be bullshitting that's how.
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On March 06 2024 06:33 Trfel wrote:
My apologies, I don't have time to play today. I'll try and catch up later tonight or tomorrow.
Voting for Vivax and Palmar, I don't particularly know why, I'll try and check in to see if I need to switch votes. If I get lynched so be it.
Mafia
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