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On March 06 2024 01:30 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 00:42 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 00:34 Jealous wrote:
Hi, vanilla town reporting. After losing yesterday to being ill, I'm going to be catching up over the next few hours. Will share any thoughts/reads I have as I do so. Thanks for being patient! The old 24 hour flu I hear that's going around Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 00:42 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 00:34 Jealous wrote:
Hi, vanilla town reporting. After losing yesterday to being ill, I'm going to be catching up over the next few hours. Will share any thoughts/reads I have as I do so. Thanks for being patient! The old 24 hour flu I hear that's going around the one that happens to start on the first day after seeing some red? More like alcohol poisoning after hanging out with an old friend all Sunday, combined with ramen that was way too spicy. Practically had an out-of-body experience. But, don't want to distract current ongoing discussion too much; I'm up to page 30 and am finding it interesting that some of the people who were being discussed the most back then are now seemingly not being brought up as much, so it's going to be interesting to review how discourse evolved here. Trying to keep an open mind as I catch up so I'll post my reads once I do so. Thank you.
So are you gonna play or what
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Day One Vote Count
Mayor
Vivax (10): raynpelikoneet, Rels, Vivax, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Koshi, Alakaslam, JacobStrangelove, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Palmar
raynpelikoneet (2): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Koshi (1): Koshi, justanothertownie
Not Voting (7): sandroba, Trfel, Jealous, CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes
With 10 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected!
Lynch
Palmar (6) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
ToTheStars (3): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove, Vivax
Justanothertownie (2): sandroba, Palmar
VisceraEyes (1): iamperfection, sandroba, Vivax, Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (1) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk
JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, DarthPunk
CopCake (1): Oatsmaster, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh
die_meatbaby (1): Oatsmaster
DarthPunk (0) : raynpelikoneet
iamperfection (0): DarthPunk
Koshi (0) : JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (0) : DarthPunk
Alakaslam (0) Oatsmaster, CopCake
Vivax (0): Alakaslam
Not Voting(5): Trfel, Jealous, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli, ToTheStars
With 6 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!
Let me know if you see any votes misplaced
The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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On March 06 2024 04:36 Koshi wrote:
Should I send in a name? Seems unnecessairy.
I am going to be early today. Yesterday drained me.
Can't hurt, right?
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Vivax please clearly state your action in the thread
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I leave come back for shenanigans later.
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On March 06 2024 05:04 iamperfection wrote:
Vivax please clearly state your action in the thread
I'm killing Hapa.
He didn't even place a vote or claim it's not debatable.
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I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along.
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On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along.
Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to.
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I'm still conflicted between jat and palmar. Mostly I've been lurking to see how the late voters will behave in the hopes of gathering more data points to make a better decision.
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What's your take on dmb vivax?
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On March 06 2024 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 01:30 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2024 00:42 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 00:34 Jealous wrote:
Hi, vanilla town reporting. After losing yesterday to being ill, I'm going to be catching up over the next few hours. Will share any thoughts/reads I have as I do so. Thanks for being patient! The old 24 hour flu I hear that's going around On March 06 2024 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 00:42 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 00:34 Jealous wrote:
Hi, vanilla town reporting. After losing yesterday to being ill, I'm going to be catching up over the next few hours. Will share any thoughts/reads I have as I do so. Thanks for being patient! The old 24 hour flu I hear that's going around the one that happens to start on the first day after seeing some red? More like alcohol poisoning after hanging out with an old friend all Sunday, combined with ramen that was way too spicy. Practically had an out-of-body experience. But, don't want to distract current ongoing discussion too much; I'm up to page 30 and am finding it interesting that some of the people who were being discussed the most back then are now seemingly not being brought up as much, so it's going to be interesting to review how discourse evolved here. Trying to keep an open mind as I catch up so I'll post my reads once I do so. On March 06 2024 00:45 iamperfection wrote:
Let's let him play Thank you. So are you gonna play or what
Finally caught up, read the whole thread. Now, time to parse the quotes I selected as interesting/potentially AI and make a reads list.
In the meantime, do want to say that I think the mafia!Vivax fake claim story doesn't make much sense to me, so I'm going to vote Vivax for mayor. I will admit that it took me a while to figure out why it wouldn't make sense for him to fake claim, so I appreciate everyone here who put in the effort to explain it and opine on it.
##mayor Vivax
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On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to.
That is true, historically at least. Doesn't mean anything for Palmar though.
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On March 06 2024 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. That is true, historically at least. Doesn't mean anything for Palmar though.
There are players this wouldn't hold for, I think sand isn't one of them.
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On March 05 2024 23:12 sandroba wrote:JAT: catches up to the thread but basically only ever comments on Koshi related stuff. A lot of his commentary is meaningless and his questions are not sharp. He apparently wants Koshi for mayor, but this is not a real position since koshi himself wants vivax and it doesn't seem like jat really wants it or thinks it's a realistic thing that will happen. It just fills up space and buddies up to koshi. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn? The above post is complacent and disinterested. The reasoning for Vivax possibly being mafia is very shallow analysis and very lazily written, not trying to convince anyone. JAT is solely focused on this mayor thing, he is not very involved and he is making no effort to actually find anyone that is suspicious. He is sticking to easy topics and being lazy in his comments. Even the mayor thing he doesn't care enough about to make any real contributions. He cares about nothing, yet he is still posting here pretending to engage. JAT is mafia.
Is that still all you have on me, sandro? I think I explained all I have done here more than sufficiently. Unlike you, I think the mayor vote is quite important. I post the same thing to you as I did to Rayn - what am I supposed to do about it at this point? The post you quote is not disinterested or complacent. It is rather resignating/annoyed. Of course I do not have very good reasoning for Vivax being mafia - I never even called him mafia in the first place. I just don't agree that the claim makes him confirmed town or even more likely town than Koshi.
I think that your characterization does not fit my play at all.
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I dunno Palmar feels very off after digesting for a bit. It's not normal that he buddies up to me so quickly, even if he agrees with my takes. If I had been insanely active I could see it, but here it seems he is trying to pocket me. He even exaggerates the fact that I backed off of him and started acting like I suddenly see him as town. The tone he entered the thread in general feels very different as well. It looks more like d4 reasonable palmar after raport has been built and he has a stronger grasp of people's possible alignment than d1 palmar who is more skeptical and has some plan.
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On March 06 2024 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. That is true, historically at least. Doesn't mean anything for Palmar though. There are players this wouldn't hold for, I think sand isn't one of them.
I was talking about the last part of the post. Should have made that clearer. I can absolutely see sandro concentrating on the mason chats. Even though I think it would be better to just post in the thread instead so all townies can draw their own conclusions.
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On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to.
He got masoned though in my understanding.
If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW.
Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him.
JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times.
He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so.
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On March 06 2024 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 23:12 sandroba wrote:JAT: catches up to the thread but basically only ever comments on Koshi related stuff. A lot of his commentary is meaningless and his questions are not sharp. He apparently wants Koshi for mayor, but this is not a real position since koshi himself wants vivax and it doesn't seem like jat really wants it or thinks it's a realistic thing that will happen. It just fills up space and buddies up to koshi. On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn? The above post is complacent and disinterested. The reasoning for Vivax possibly being mafia is very shallow analysis and very lazily written, not trying to convince anyone. JAT is solely focused on this mayor thing, he is not very involved and he is making no effort to actually find anyone that is suspicious. He is sticking to easy topics and being lazy in his comments. Even the mayor thing he doesn't care enough about to make any real contributions. He cares about nothing, yet he is still posting here pretending to engage. JAT is mafia. Is that still all you have on me, sandro? I think I explained all I have done here more than sufficiently. Unlike you, I think the mayor vote is quite important. I post the same thing to you as I did to Rayn - what am I supposed to do about it at this point? The post you quote is not disinterested or complacent. It is rather resignating/annoyed. Of course I do not have very good reasoning for Vivax being mafia - I never even called him mafia in the first place. I just don't agree that the claim makes him confirmed town or even more likely town than Koshi. I think that your characterization does not fit my play at all.
That's all I have, I've been looking at a couple of mafia games from you and the style seems similar. Compared to the town game I saw you had more pointed questions and relevant commentary. Granted all I found were old games and I confess the posting style between mafia and town is pretty similar. I think the sharpness of the content is the biggest difference and that is mostly subjective. I also confess that I like your posts more since after I called you out, but that doesn't mean you aren't mafia. What I'm dwelling on is would you as mafia make such low-effort replies when asked to explain your reads or would you be trying to come up with something more well thought out? I think the average mafia would tend towards the latter.
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On March 06 2024 06:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2024 05:22 Vivax wrote:
I'm untownreading sandroba upon review.
I think he's too okay with Palmar dying while voting elsewhere and JAT his main scumread is maybe superficially scummy and the ideal target a scum would latch onto.
Plus he called my posts shallow and generally looks like he's just dragging himself along. Are you factoring in a mason chat into the math? Like, I can see town Sand just kinda dragging in the thread if he's focusing activity in a mason chat. Not defending him per se, but I also disagree that jat an easy target, like me he can turn it on if he has to. He got masoned though in my understanding. If Palmar is scum here I see a lazy ass attempt from him to start a CW. Like I don't get otherwise why 1. He's not voting with marv here. 2. He's just letting Palmar die without having a real read on him while Palmar is voting with him. JAT just talked about the claim mostly that's true but then he could accuse cop of doing the same thing at times. He's also not factoring it that JAT has it out personally for me so he doesn't want me to be mayor which gives him a town motivation to do so.
I really don't "have it out personally for you". I just don't think your play warrants an election as mayor.
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