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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
March 05 2024 23:48 GMT
#2541
On March 06 2024 08:28 Palmar wrote:
I think Jealous is complaining (he didn't quote it correctly) about my post encouraging Hapa to just play at a lower effort level.

I disagree with Jealous, I think that was a very townie post by me.

Yea, my apologies, I only realized on the re-read that I somehow lost that post into somewhere else. But, I'm glad you brought it up. For posterity (so everyone else knows what I was referring to):

On March 05 2024 23:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 23:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Not a damn thing. I don't want to be a buzz kill or anything, but I literally cannot bring myself to even try every time I sit down and try to start

You don't actually have to read the thread, god knows I haven't.

Just start talking with people. Mafia is incredibly hard and these people spam like their life depends on it. You just kinda have to accept that you're not playing at 100% capacity and be okay with it.


Admitting you haven't read the thread just doesn't feel like a smart thing to be doing regardless of whether you're mafia or town IMO, but especially town. If you're not trying to catch inconsistencies, see apparent partnerships or dissect whether a conflict is genuine or manufactured, what are we doing here? Like, yea, asking questions and using that info to inform your decisions is a thing you're supposed to do, but without a frame of reference it just feels like it's not helping town and can just lead to more confusion than anything.

But, you're a more experienced player than me and might have just been trying to be kind to Hapa, I can concede that. In general I liked how you've been posting recently for the most part, but you were also under the microscope for a bit so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Looking forward to see what you do going forward.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2024 23:48 GMT
#2542
On March 06 2024 08:45 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote:
This is just random and for post-game purposes.

We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).

1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question
2) TTS - Complete inactivity
3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia
4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why

But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad.


Technically 5 with The slam claim but somehow we're all collectively forgetting it happened at seperate times.

Right

Like I'm going to be mad if Vivax is mafia because I know in my heart that I'm being incredibly dumb not lynching him. But I'm allowing my gut to win against my inner fascist.
Computer says mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 05 2024 23:49 GMT
#2543
On March 06 2024 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:38 Rels wrote:
If Palmar was the leading wagon or counterwagon to him at the time, I don't see the issue? I can relate to not having the time



It's a stark difference to his level last game.

He posted a bit at the start of the game, got town read and noped out.

But hey, you can vote Jat with me if you want instead, or propose something else.

Will try to filter JAT before I have to go
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2024 23:49 GMT
#2544
On March 06 2024 08:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:38 Rels wrote:
If Palmar was the leading wagon or counterwagon to him at the time, I don't see the issue? I can relate to not having the time



It's a stark difference to his level last game.

He posted a bit at the start of the game, got town read and noped out.

But hey, you can vote Jat with me if you want instead, or propose something else.

Will try to filter JAT before I have to go

I mean you could just go
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 05 2024 23:50 GMT
#2545
On March 06 2024 08:48 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:45 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote:
This is just random and for post-game purposes.

We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).

1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question
2) TTS - Complete inactivity
3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia
4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why

But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad.


Technically 5 with The slam claim but somehow we're all collectively forgetting it happened at seperate times.

Right

Like I'm going to be mad if Vivax is mafia because I know in my heart that I'm being incredibly dumb not lynching him. But I'm allowing my gut to win against my inner fascist.


Your inner fascist is secretly okay with an Austrian chancellor admit it
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 05 2024 23:53 GMT
#2546
On March 06 2024 08:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:49 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:38 Rels wrote:
If Palmar was the leading wagon or counterwagon to him at the time, I don't see the issue? I can relate to not having the time



It's a stark difference to his level last game.

He posted a bit at the start of the game, got town read and noped out.

But hey, you can vote Jat with me if you want instead, or propose something else.

Will try to filter JAT before I have to go

I mean you could just go

LOL
I really have a hard time understanding this:
On March 06 2024 08:30 Rels wrote:
"I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it." => then 1 hour later "Wait you still think I'm mafia?"

?????

I don't know if there is any explanation you could give that would satisfy me, but, maybe try?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2024 23:54 GMT
#2547
On March 06 2024 08:48 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:28 Palmar wrote:
I think Jealous is complaining (he didn't quote it correctly) about my post encouraging Hapa to just play at a lower effort level.

I disagree with Jealous, I think that was a very townie post by me.

Yea, my apologies, I only realized on the re-read that I somehow lost that post into somewhere else. But, I'm glad you brought it up. For posterity (so everyone else knows what I was referring to):

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 23:58 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Not a damn thing. I don't want to be a buzz kill or anything, but I literally cannot bring myself to even try every time I sit down and try to start

You don't actually have to read the thread, god knows I haven't.

Just start talking with people. Mafia is incredibly hard and these people spam like their life depends on it. You just kinda have to accept that you're not playing at 100% capacity and be okay with it.


Admitting you haven't read the thread just doesn't feel like a smart thing to be doing regardless of whether you're mafia or town IMO, but especially town. If you're not trying to catch inconsistencies, see apparent partnerships or dissect whether a conflict is genuine or manufactured, what are we doing here? Like, yea, asking questions and using that info to inform your decisions is a thing you're supposed to do, but without a frame of reference it just feels like it's not helping town and can just lead to more confusion than anything.

But, you're a more experienced player than me and might have just been trying to be kind to Hapa, I can concede that. In general I liked how you've been posting recently for the most part, but you were also under the microscope for a bit so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Looking forward to see what you do going forward.

What in the actual fuck is this post
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2024 23:55 GMT
#2548
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa


then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2024 23:55 GMT
#2549
On March 06 2024 08:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:49 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:49 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:38 Rels wrote:
If Palmar was the leading wagon or counterwagon to him at the time, I don't see the issue? I can relate to not having the time



It's a stark difference to his level last game.

He posted a bit at the start of the game, got town read and noped out.

But hey, you can vote Jat with me if you want instead, or propose something else.

Will try to filter JAT before I have to go

I mean you could just go

LOL
I really have a hard time understanding this:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:30 Rels wrote:
"I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it." => then 1 hour later "Wait you still think I'm mafia?"

?????

I don't know if there is any explanation you could give that would satisfy me, but, maybe try?


Nah
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2024 23:55 GMT
#2550
On March 06 2024 08:36 DarthPunk wrote:
BTW, why does JAT need to wait for marv's permission to vote trfel to save himself, seems really fucking off to me.

Is Jat the kind of player who sucks up to marv.

A million percent he is.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
March 05 2024 23:56 GMT
#2551
On March 06 2024 08:34 Koshi wrote:
Oh man. Just search for tfrel in my filter and you will read all the things why he is mafia.

oof if he flips mafia I will have to vote rayn next. It's all in my filter.

Thanks, I'll take a look and come back with some quotes if I find them. Do remember really liking your posts from ~24 hours ago if memory serves correct.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2024 23:56 GMT
#2552
oh and I'm always wrong on some mafia that I just give random town reads for no good reason. But it's not far enough into the game for me to know what's what.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2024 23:56 GMT
#2553
On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa


then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.

I sort of agree with you about Trfel tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 05 2024 23:57 GMT
#2554
I just finished debriefing, I'm still at work and can't catch up on 600 posts. Can a couple of people please summarize what's happened?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 05 2024 23:59 GMT
#2555
Not gonna lie Palmar might have just called out all the mafia in the top part of his post.
Good job team.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 23:59 GMT
#2556
On March 06 2024 08:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:36 DarthPunk wrote:
BTW, why does JAT need to wait for marv's permission to vote trfel to save himself, seems really fucking off to me.

Is Jat the kind of player who sucks up to marv.

A million percent he is.


ew.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2024 23:59 GMT
#2557
On March 06 2024 08:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I just finished debriefing, I'm still at work and can't catch up on 600 posts. Can a couple of people please summarize what's happened?

Palmar mafia, palmar maybe not mafia. Jat and Trfel maybe mafia

Marv looking sexy in Speedos
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 05 2024 23:59 GMT
#2558
On March 06 2024 08:56 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa


then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.

I sort of agree with you about Trfel tbh.


Lynch Jat with me then.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 06 2024 00:00 GMT
#2559
On March 06 2024 08:59 Vivax wrote:
Not gonna lie Palmar might have just called out all the mafia in the top part of his post.
Good job team.


I think rels is town when he posts.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2024 00:00 GMT
#2560
On March 06 2024 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:55 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:36 DarthPunk wrote:
BTW, why does JAT need to wait for marv's permission to vote trfel to save himself, seems really fucking off to me.

Is Jat the kind of player who sucks up to marv.

A million percent he is.


ew.

Maybe. But he is. I know you could find games in DB if you went looking

He might do it as Both alignments but I only remember as town. Just NAI probably
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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