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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 06 2024 15:40 GMT
#3321
At least the parts i base my read on you.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2024 15:40 GMT
#3322
On March 07 2024 00:38 Palmar wrote:
Sorry turned Irish there for a moment

You really did
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:40 GMT
#3323
Can someone else chime in here, am I crazy? Didn't everyone else know how I felt about Vivax? At least everyone that had looked into anything I said..
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:40 GMT
#3324
On March 07 2024 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least the parts i base my read on you.

Which parts are those?
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 06 2024 15:41 GMT
#3325
On March 07 2024 00:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax point is not important, it just came to my head when i quoted your post to show how that list post is not townie.

I find it important.

Also if it's not important, why all the caps?

because in the heat of the moment i thought it is important.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 06 2024 15:41 GMT
#3326
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least the parts i base my read on you.

Which parts are those?

On March 06 2024 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Adding to palmar from me/marv QT:

"Palmar was trying to buddy sandroba and me, when it didnt work on me he called me mafia WITH marv. His read progression on VE is trash, or like the lack of it."

And earlier:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar says its possible mafia rayn masoned mafia marv, that should already be like 100% scum claim.

Palmar claims VE lloks worse does absolutely nothing about it, while VE is his best buddy he is really really really good at reading. scumclaim #2

On first point, that's completely unreasonable thought. Like scum rayn masons scum marv and THEN scum marv masons town sandroba. Never ever in his head the thought of this being ridiculous on all fronts appears.

Second point needs no explaining.

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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
March 06 2024 15:41 GMT
#3327
On March 07 2024 00:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 00:20 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa



then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.

where is your case on vivax?


There's no case I think he's town.

I've said multiple times correct play would have been to policy lynch him day 1.

Very helpful. As it was the last time you mentioned it.


Last 7 times.

I like talking about policy lynches, sue me.

Do you find it interesting that rayn is apparently not aware of this stance on Vivax despite me being his #1 lynch target?

Only mildly. You think he would be this careless as mafia rather than town?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
March 06 2024 15:42 GMT
#3328
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Can someone else chime in here, am I crazy? Didn't everyone else know how I felt about Vivax? At least everyone that had looked into anything I said..

Yes, I knew how you felt about Vivax.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2024 15:43 GMT
#3329
On March 07 2024 00:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Can someone else chime in here, am I crazy? Didn't everyone else know how I felt about Vivax? At least everyone that had looked into anything I said..

Yes, I knew how you felt about Vivax.

We know :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 06 2024 15:45 GMT
#3330
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.

I entirely dislike that you even have a thought in your head at any point of the game that me and marv are mafia together (which you had as per your posts). And i think it makes you mafia.

Rels made a good point about your stance on marv's scumread on you. Maybe Rels is mafia with you as JAT thinks, but nevertheless it's a good point, you just shrug it off like it's nothing. And people buy that shit from you.

JAT makes a good point about your case on him. Your thinking is not coherent there, as it is not in other cases as well above. I think it also makes you mafia.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
March 06 2024 15:45 GMT
#3331
On March 07 2024 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Can someone else chime in here, am I crazy? Didn't everyone else know how I felt about Vivax? At least everyone that had looked into anything I said..

Yes, I knew how you felt about Vivax.

We know :p

:D
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:47 GMT
#3332
On March 07 2024 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2024 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least the parts i base my read on you.

Which parts are those?

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Adding to palmar from me/marv QT:

"Palmar was trying to buddy sandroba and me, when it didnt work on me he called me mafia WITH marv. His read progression on VE is trash, or like the lack of it."

And earlier:
On March 06 2024 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar says its possible mafia rayn masoned mafia marv, that should already be like 100% scum claim.

Palmar claims VE lloks worse does absolutely nothing about it, while VE is his best buddy he is really really really good at reading. scumclaim #2

On first point, that's completely unreasonable thought. Like scum rayn masons scum marv and THEN scum marv masons town sandroba. Never ever in his head the thought of this being ridiculous on all fronts appears.

Second point needs no explaining.



I don't think I ever tried to buddy anyone. I give reads who are independent and you know this. If you are town you should be stopping and thinking "oh yeah, Palmar, as town, last game talked about how he doesn't make associative reads and does things independently".

Now I won't fault you for forgetting that, but when I point it out to you it should greatly weaken your first point.

The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 06 2024 15:48 GMT
#3333
On March 07 2024 00:47 Palmar wrote:

The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.

because youre super good at reading VE
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2024 15:52 GMT
#3334
On March 07 2024 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:47 Palmar wrote:

The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.

because youre super good at reading VE

Honestly his read progression on VE has mirrored mine quite a bit. I don’t think palmar has any more special insight into VE than I do
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:52 GMT
#3335
On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.


Let's break this down.

I initially made a tone read on VE and explained that it was mostly that, along with some theorycrafting, shitting on people using unccd as a thing. That latter part is NAI but whatever.

The second time I talked about him I mentioned him looking a little worse, and then I made another post about him and Trfel needing to step up. I feel like this makes perfect sense given VE's lack of activity in the later parts of D1

And now during the night I said he's fallen off a cliff, which I kinda think is a fair characterization of his play.

What's the problem with this? I admit, he's not been a primary investigative target of mine, but I don't think I've said anything weird.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:54 GMT
#3336
On March 07 2024 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:47 Palmar wrote:

The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.

because youre super good at reading VE

I'm not though.

We have played a bunch of games together, but he's not really one of those players I have a set of expectations for. I enjoy playing with him when he's on, but again, no idea where you get this idea from that I'm some VE oracle.

I don't think I'm bad at reading him, mind you, just not really any better than other people have played with him, or better at reading him than other people.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:56 GMT
#3337
On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike that you even have a thought in your head at any point of the game that me and marv are mafia together (which you had as per your posts). And i think it makes you mafia.


Again, I understand you disliking it, but now that I've reminded you that these kind of associative reads don't really matter to me as town, doesn't that change your stance?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:58 GMT
#3338
On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Rels made a good point about your stance on marv's scumread on you. Maybe Rels is mafia with you as JAT thinks, but nevertheless it's a good point, you just shrug it off like it's nothing. And people buy that shit from you.



Just didn't want to talk to Rels really. His entire point is based on some perceived strangeness regarding marv, that if shit ever hits the fan I could cajole marv himself into confirming isn't weird. And at that point Rels had no thread presence and I felt like arguing something so dumb was just gonna mess with the thread.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 06 2024 16:00 GMT
#3339
On March 07 2024 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.


Let's break this down.

I initially made a tone read on VE and explained that it was mostly that, along with some theorycrafting, shitting on people using unccd as a thing. That latter part is NAI but whatever.

The second time I talked about him I mentioned him looking a little worse, and then I made another post about him and Trfel needing to step up. I feel like this makes perfect sense given VE's lack of activity in the later parts of D1

And now during the night I said he's fallen off a cliff, which I kinda think is a fair characterization of his play.

What's the problem with this? I admit, he's not been a primary investigative target of mine, but I don't think I've said anything weird.

So did you or did you not read VE's fliter?

Because you have basically claimed to follow the thread with ctrl+f palmar on people's filter?
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 16:00 GMT
#3340
On March 05 2024 23:25 Palmar wrote:

It's really hard to come out of an aggressive tunnel like that as mafia, because you kinda have to force yourself to attack someone and when you've spent effort in making an attack on someone you know is town, it's super hard to just throw it away when new evidence presents itself.


I'm not saying I'm a genius but maybe I am. :D
Computer says mafia
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