• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:15
CET 23:15
KST 07:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1340 users

A Classy Game of Mafia - Page 167

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 165 166 167 168 169 555 Next
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2024 15:40 GMT
#3321
At least the parts i base my read on you.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2024 15:40 GMT
#3322
On March 07 2024 00:38 Palmar wrote:
Sorry turned Irish there for a moment

You really did
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:40 GMT
#3323
Can someone else chime in here, am I crazy? Didn't everyone else know how I felt about Vivax? At least everyone that had looked into anything I said..
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:40 GMT
#3324
On March 07 2024 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least the parts i base my read on you.

Which parts are those?
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2024 15:41 GMT
#3325
On March 07 2024 00:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax point is not important, it just came to my head when i quoted your post to show how that list post is not townie.

I find it important.

Also if it's not important, why all the caps?

because in the heat of the moment i thought it is important.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2024 15:41 GMT
#3326
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least the parts i base my read on you.

Which parts are those?

On March 06 2024 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Adding to palmar from me/marv QT:

"Palmar was trying to buddy sandroba and me, when it didnt work on me he called me mafia WITH marv. His read progression on VE is trash, or like the lack of it."

And earlier:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar says its possible mafia rayn masoned mafia marv, that should already be like 100% scum claim.

Palmar claims VE lloks worse does absolutely nothing about it, while VE is his best buddy he is really really really good at reading. scumclaim #2

On first point, that's completely unreasonable thought. Like scum rayn masons scum marv and THEN scum marv masons town sandroba. Never ever in his head the thought of this being ridiculous on all fronts appears.

Second point needs no explaining.

table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 06 2024 15:41 GMT
#3327
On March 07 2024 00:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 00:20 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa



then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.

where is your case on vivax?


There's no case I think he's town.

I've said multiple times correct play would have been to policy lynch him day 1.

Very helpful. As it was the last time you mentioned it.


Last 7 times.

I like talking about policy lynches, sue me.

Do you find it interesting that rayn is apparently not aware of this stance on Vivax despite me being his #1 lynch target?

Only mildly. You think he would be this careless as mafia rather than town?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 06 2024 15:42 GMT
#3328
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Can someone else chime in here, am I crazy? Didn't everyone else know how I felt about Vivax? At least everyone that had looked into anything I said..

Yes, I knew how you felt about Vivax.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2024 15:43 GMT
#3329
On March 07 2024 00:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Can someone else chime in here, am I crazy? Didn't everyone else know how I felt about Vivax? At least everyone that had looked into anything I said..

Yes, I knew how you felt about Vivax.

We know :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2024 15:45 GMT
#3330
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.

I entirely dislike that you even have a thought in your head at any point of the game that me and marv are mafia together (which you had as per your posts). And i think it makes you mafia.

Rels made a good point about your stance on marv's scumread on you. Maybe Rels is mafia with you as JAT thinks, but nevertheless it's a good point, you just shrug it off like it's nothing. And people buy that shit from you.

JAT makes a good point about your case on him. Your thinking is not coherent there, as it is not in other cases as well above. I think it also makes you mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 06 2024 15:45 GMT
#3331
On March 07 2024 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Can someone else chime in here, am I crazy? Didn't everyone else know how I felt about Vivax? At least everyone that had looked into anything I said..

Yes, I knew how you felt about Vivax.

We know :p

:D
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:47 GMT
#3332
On March 07 2024 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:40 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2024 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least the parts i base my read on you.

Which parts are those?

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Adding to palmar from me/marv QT:

"Palmar was trying to buddy sandroba and me, when it didnt work on me he called me mafia WITH marv. His read progression on VE is trash, or like the lack of it."

And earlier:
On March 06 2024 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar says its possible mafia rayn masoned mafia marv, that should already be like 100% scum claim.

Palmar claims VE lloks worse does absolutely nothing about it, while VE is his best buddy he is really really really good at reading. scumclaim #2

On first point, that's completely unreasonable thought. Like scum rayn masons scum marv and THEN scum marv masons town sandroba. Never ever in his head the thought of this being ridiculous on all fronts appears.

Second point needs no explaining.



I don't think I ever tried to buddy anyone. I give reads who are independent and you know this. If you are town you should be stopping and thinking "oh yeah, Palmar, as town, last game talked about how he doesn't make associative reads and does things independently".

Now I won't fault you for forgetting that, but when I point it out to you it should greatly weaken your first point.

The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2024 15:48 GMT
#3333
On March 07 2024 00:47 Palmar wrote:

The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.

because youre super good at reading VE
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2024 15:52 GMT
#3334
On March 07 2024 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:47 Palmar wrote:

The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.

because youre super good at reading VE

Honestly his read progression on VE has mirrored mine quite a bit. I don’t think palmar has any more special insight into VE than I do
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:52 GMT
#3335
On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.


Let's break this down.

I initially made a tone read on VE and explained that it was mostly that, along with some theorycrafting, shitting on people using unccd as a thing. That latter part is NAI but whatever.

The second time I talked about him I mentioned him looking a little worse, and then I made another post about him and Trfel needing to step up. I feel like this makes perfect sense given VE's lack of activity in the later parts of D1

And now during the night I said he's fallen off a cliff, which I kinda think is a fair characterization of his play.

What's the problem with this? I admit, he's not been a primary investigative target of mine, but I don't think I've said anything weird.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:54 GMT
#3336
On March 07 2024 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:47 Palmar wrote:

The second point about VE is also kinda weird. I have had a change of heart about VE, but he was never my primary scumread yesterday, I just mentioned that him falling off a cliff made him look worse. Why do you care so much about my read on VE? I've arguably said more about VE than I've said about for example iamp or dmb or Rels.

because youre super good at reading VE

I'm not though.

We have played a bunch of games together, but he's not really one of those players I have a set of expectations for. I enjoy playing with him when he's on, but again, no idea where you get this idea from that I'm some VE oracle.

I don't think I'm bad at reading him, mind you, just not really any better than other people have played with him, or better at reading him than other people.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:56 GMT
#3337
On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike that you even have a thought in your head at any point of the game that me and marv are mafia together (which you had as per your posts). And i think it makes you mafia.


Again, I understand you disliking it, but now that I've reminded you that these kind of associative reads don't really matter to me as town, doesn't that change your stance?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 15:58 GMT
#3338
On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Rels made a good point about your stance on marv's scumread on you. Maybe Rels is mafia with you as JAT thinks, but nevertheless it's a good point, you just shrug it off like it's nothing. And people buy that shit from you.



Just didn't want to talk to Rels really. His entire point is based on some perceived strangeness regarding marv, that if shit ever hits the fan I could cajole marv himself into confirming isn't weird. And at that point Rels had no thread presence and I felt like arguing something so dumb was just gonna mess with the thread.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2024 16:00 GMT
#3339
On March 07 2024 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.


Let's break this down.

I initially made a tone read on VE and explained that it was mostly that, along with some theorycrafting, shitting on people using unccd as a thing. That latter part is NAI but whatever.

The second time I talked about him I mentioned him looking a little worse, and then I made another post about him and Trfel needing to step up. I feel like this makes perfect sense given VE's lack of activity in the later parts of D1

And now during the night I said he's fallen off a cliff, which I kinda think is a fair characterization of his play.

What's the problem with this? I admit, he's not been a primary investigative target of mine, but I don't think I've said anything weird.

So did you or did you not read VE's fliter?

Because you have basically claimed to follow the thread with ctrl+f palmar on people's filter?
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2024 16:00 GMT
#3340
On March 05 2024 23:25 Palmar wrote:

It's really hard to come out of an aggressive tunnel like that as mafia, because you kinda have to force yourself to attack someone and when you've spent effort in making an attack on someone you know is town, it's super hard to just throw it away when new evidence presents itself.


I'm not saying I'm a genius but maybe I am. :D
Computer says mafia
Prev 1 165 166 167 168 169 555 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft322
IndyStarCraft 277
JuggernautJason155
UpATreeSC 93
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 126
910 34
Yoon 14
Dota 2
febbydoto9
Counter-Strike
byalli974
Other Games
Grubby4615
FrodaN1517
Beastyqt882
fl0m827
B2W.Neo623
RotterdaM239
Liquid`Hasu232
mouzStarbuck200
C9.Mang0185
XaKoH 98
Mew2King65
Trikslyr59
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV57
StarCraft 2
angryscii 31
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 37
• Reevou 14
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 30
• Michael_bg 7
• mYiSmile15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2806
Other Games
• imaqtpie1803
• Shiphtur571
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
13h 46m
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 10h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 13h
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-22
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.