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On March 07 2024 00:08 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:59 Vivax wrote:
Rels, MZ, Palmar, Jealous, VE
Cop wants in.
Good working hypothesis? How sure you are of DMB not being mafia, because she looks very mafia to me as well. and why? Not at all. I think she always looks scummy on a surface level but her being so stubborn about DP makes me think town. Its just not worth it to pursue that as scum.
Why does she scumread Cake when Cake is the only other person ever in this game to scumread DP?
Also her read on me is shit. I can understand people thinking i am mafia, but i don't understand that shit she is saying.
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On March 07 2024 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:08 Vivax wrote:On March 07 2024 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:59 Vivax wrote:
Rels, MZ, Palmar, Jealous, VE
Cop wants in.
Good working hypothesis? How sure you are of DMB not being mafia, because she looks very mafia to me as well. and why? Not at all. I think she always looks scummy on a surface level but her being so stubborn about DP makes me think town. Its just not worth it to pursue that as scum. Why does she scumread Cake when Cake is the only other person ever in this game to scumread DP? Also her read on me is shit. I can understand people thinking i am mafia, but i don't understand that shit she is saying.
You are looking for someone to make sense as town who enjoys chaos and not making sense in the first place.
A bit like me. But I can flip around and try to make sense if the situation requires it.
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we need to do this during night because koshi and dp are gonna throw, at least vivax is coming around 
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Rayn and marv being nice to me is giving me the creeps
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On March 06 2024 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 23:39 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:34 iamperfection wrote:
Cop might just be dumb. I felt like dmb knew trfels alignment ignored me multiple times when I said the play was different. Trfel themselves admitted they were playing bad
yes i am more sure of dmb being mafia here, but cake still said: 1) vivax/dp/iamp changed the lynch from palmar (for no reason as mafia) 2) dp pocketed palmar (and palmar is not town) it does not sit well with me. i just cant wrap my head around it... i dont understand how she is trying to explain this now (she has), if someone can read that to me so i can understand it it would be really nice. You just dont want to understand. 🫨 that's just wrong. im the fucking best town player in this game with JAT even if i am wrong on you and those plebs almost lynched him.
Rayn listen to me for a moment please.
You’re doing this thing you always do where something doesn’t make logical sense to you and drawing the conclusion it must come from mafia.
I think it’s really quite unlikely CC is mafia. Her play feels quite different to when we were mafia. There I struggled to get her to do much other stuff than defend herself. Which is fair enough.
Here she has a bunch of crazy opinions and is constantly sticking her neck out. The simple explanation is she is super into the game and is thinking about things in a way you don’t grasp and doesn’t make sense to you. She’s playing like some blend of town Koshi/Vivax. Just consider it for me please
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On March 06 2024 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:35 Palmar wrote:
It's so enjoyable watching rayn hammering someone other than yourself.
Go rayn! youre still scum. until you explain how in your head mafia rayn masoned mafia marv (1min into the game) masoned town sandroba. until you tell us why VE is mafia, because he is
You see, I understand this is a stretch for you but I am capable of holding multiple options in my head at any moment.
We had this argument last game as well, where you were mafia trying to hammer me for exactly the same logic.
I do not make associative reads
So, I can think at some point that marv is mafia, and I can independently think you are mafia, and even if I agree that it's unlikely you'd do a stunt like that, that doesn't change my individual conclusions. Now I'm not even sure marv is mafia, hell I'm not even sure you're mafia, I really liked you going after copcake just now.
Remember, we HAD THIS ARGUMENT last game, and you were the mafia and I was the town there. I do not make associative reads and I do not care about links like this. I just individually consider players and accept that sometimes I'm wrong. If marv is scum and you're town, that makes the mason thing suddenly not weird at all, same with the other direction, could just be a stunt you pull.
It really doesn't matter to me, that's not how I think about the game.
Also I kinda agree VE has fallen off a cliff in my opinion. I kinda wrote him off and haven't filter dived him mostly for that tonal read that he was enjoying himself, but since then he has stopped enjoying playing... so... that no longer applies?
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On March 07 2024 00:11 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 00:08 Vivax wrote:On March 07 2024 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:59 Vivax wrote:
Rels, MZ, Palmar, Jealous, VE
Cop wants in.
Good working hypothesis? How sure you are of DMB not being mafia, because she looks very mafia to me as well. and why? Not at all. I think she always looks scummy on a surface level but her being so stubborn about DP makes me think town. Its just not worth it to pursue that as scum. Why does she scumread Cake when Cake is the only other person ever in this game to scumread DP? Also her read on me is shit. I can understand people thinking i am mafia, but i don't understand that shit she is saying. You are looking for someone to make sense as town who enjoys chaos and not making sense in the first place. A bit like me. But I can flip around and try to make sense if the situation requires it.
i looked at her reads on me in previous games, mirroring them to this dont make sense to me.
if she has some new "meta" from our scumgame, it might make sense, but she's not saying any of that sort.
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On March 07 2024 00:12 iamperfection wrote:
Rayn and marv being nice to me is giving me the creeps
Because my read on VE is converging on yours. That’s all.
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It's like your asking permission to scum read ve
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On March 07 2024 00:12 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 22:35 Palmar wrote:
It's so enjoyable watching rayn hammering someone other than yourself.
Go rayn! youre still scum. until you explain how in your head mafia rayn masoned mafia marv (1min into the game) masoned town sandroba. until you tell us why VE is mafia, because he is You see, I understand this is a stretch for you but I am capable of holding multiple options in my head at any moment. We had this argument last game as well, where you were mafia trying to hammer me for exactly the same logic. I do not make associative readsSo, I can think at some point that marv is mafia, and I can independently think you are mafia, and even if I agree that it's unlikely you'd do a stunt like that, that doesn't change my individual conclusions. Now I'm not even sure marv is mafia, hell I'm not even sure you're mafia, I really liked you going after copcake just now. Remember, we HAD THIS ARGUMENT last game, and you were the mafia and I was the town there. I do not make associative reads and I do not care about links like this. I just individually consider players and accept that sometimes I'm wrong. If marv is scum and you're town, that makes the mason thing suddenly not weird at all, same with the other direction, could just be a stunt you pull. It really doesn't matter to me, that's not how I think about the game. Also I kinda agree VE has fallen off a cliff in my opinion. I kinda wrote him off and haven't filter dived him mostly for that tonal read that he was enjoying himself, but since then he has stopped enjoying playing... so... that no longer applies?
this is not an associative read in normal sense.
it's similar to you calling slam 100% town for masoning you last game.
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On March 07 2024 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
It's like your asking permission to scum read ve
Palmar that is
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On March 06 2024 22:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Other wagon(s) will come later. The conclusion from my own is 1 of Rels and Palmar + MZ are likely mafia. Would mean the team was spread out well which is what I expect.
Terrible analysis
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On March 07 2024 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
It's like your asking permission to scum read ve
Will you grant it?
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On March 06 2024 22:37 sandroba wrote:
I'm liking palmar more and more. His night posts read really genuine to me, maybe I'm a fool but I'm prob not going after palmar d2.
Marv had some paranoind behavior in the qt which has fully convinced me he is town.
I think these are the big question marks for people and I think they are both town.
By process of elimination here is what I'm at:
Likely mafia: ve + rels - both didn't care one bit about the lynch imo
Depending on TTS being mafia or town it leave us 2/3 mafia in this pile:
mz, jsl, jat, cop, dmb, slam
This is where I'm at.
You know, if sandro says marv is town, I'll happily accept that and hold on to further shadethrowing in that direction.
Makes the game a lot easier for me if I just assume the two of you are town and work from there.
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On March 07 2024 00:15 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Other wagon(s) will come later. The conclusion from my own is 1 of Rels and Palmar + MZ are likely mafia. Would mean the team was spread out well which is what I expect. Terrible analysis
Right...
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On March 07 2024 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
It's like your asking permission to scum read ve
Can I sir?
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On March 06 2024 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. Whoever likes this post as for Palmar townie points, is stupid. This post has something for everyone, everyone can be happy about something in this post, and it literally says nothing at all. Even the Trfel townread is not a townread really.
I mean that post can be ignored, it's already out of date. I was just going to sleep and had no idea if town would swing back around on me, so I wanted to summarize how I felt about the game in case I flipped.
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On March 06 2024 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. where is your case on vivax?
There's no case I think he's town.
I've said multiple times correct play would have been to policy lynch him day 1.
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On March 07 2024 00:20 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. where is your case on vivax? There's no case I think he's town. I've said multiple times correct play would have been to policy lynch him day 1.
Very helpful. As it was the last time you mentioned it.
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On March 07 2024 00:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. Whoever likes this post as for Palmar townie points, is stupid. This post has something for everyone, everyone can be happy about something in this post, and it literally says nothing at all. Even the Trfel townread is not a townread really. I mean that post can be ignored, it's already out of date. I was just going to sleep and had no idea if town would swing back around on me, so I wanted to summarize how I felt about the game in case I flipped.
It was not out of date when you posted it.
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