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Looking for why CopCake was townreading VE so much:
On March 12 2024 06:03 CopCake wrote:
Also is ok if you lynch me, I think VE is town, he could have parked his vote on me and afk but he didnt, he also put effort in reading and I do believe his rage of getting mad because he put EFFORT and got ignored.
Meeeeeh
I don't really like that post. But I could see it coming from town
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On March 14 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 12:01 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 11:42 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 11:33 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 11:30 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 11:17 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
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Why did you claim it? why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I? I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over. What post made you change your mind? as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today????????? ??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to? #7864 You ask why i claimed #7871 I answer! #7872 you ask again what made me change my mind I already wrote it in #7871 it´s standing in the quotes as well. Sorry should i mark it for you from the quote in comic sans, capslook, pt/front size 5000, underline and make it shine like a rainbow?? this is not a word document sorry pas possible! The "pas possible" made me laugh  Don't have enough time if you don't want to cooperate by linking or quoting the post that made you change your mind, will revisit later I already marked it in the quote when I answerd but of course a mole can´t see it. On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. But you replied to that post with: On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2024 00:37 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk? How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M... If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town. There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment) As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane) I don't understand how you could write such a long response detailing why it's wrong to claim, but then say the post you were replying to made you chagne your mind anyway I know I shouldn't, but I really hate it. It looks like a reverse logic to me uhh i think about what people are writing... uhhh thats so bad. like wtf are we talking about here. this whole conversation has convinced me and yes the post i replied to is part of it
It doesn't satisfy me lol. But I think like the Palmar dumbtell stuff, I have to drop it. Probably doesn't make you anything
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On March 14 2024 09:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 09:10 Rels wrote:
Gotta go. I would say out of the options I have, my preference would be Palmar > JAT > random lurker (out of those, I still think TTS has the highest chance of flipping scum)
Still think Trfel is town, I would prefer any random lurker over him Mvp post here.
This is exactly how I would play the early game as mafia.
Distancing with a small bus on my teamates, while not pushing for them to be lynched.
It is basically the reason Rels is in the possible scum basket for me.
Everytime I interact with him or follow his logic and thought processes he seems town.
But that is true of the best mafia players.
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On March 14 2024 10:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 10:03 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 09:56 Vivax wrote:
Maybe I‘m the noob and dmb is right Pretty safe assumption 😛 Because I sheeped your vote on copcake ?
Nah that was good.
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On March 14 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc? Why doesn‘t he have any influence we have just done a 360 on all of his D1 reads. He doesn‘t play by presence.
He has good reads but isn't proactive in the thread.
That is scummy IMO
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Oh yeah, Oats went from scumread to townread on CopCake for butting heads with DP. Didn't make sense IMO, CopCake didn't look good in that interaction. If that's what you mean DP, then yeah, I can see that being non-parnter indicative
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On March 14 2024 12:23 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc? Why doesn‘t he have any influence we have just done a 360 on all of his D1 reads. He doesn‘t play by presence. He has good reads but isn't proactive in the thread. That is scummy IMO
Really disagree (surprising ? ). I literally dedicate all my evenings to this game lol. And I saw the reason the lynch changed yesterday
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On March 14 2024 12:23 Rels wrote:
Oh yeah, Oats went from scumread to townread on CopCake for butting heads with DP. Didn't make sense IMO, CopCake didn't look good in that interaction. If that's what you mean DP, then yeah, I can see that being non-parnter indicative
Yeah that is what I was talking about.
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On March 14 2024 12:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 12:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc? Why doesn‘t he have any influence we have just done a 360 on all of his D1 reads. He doesn‘t play by presence. He has good reads but isn't proactive in the thread. That is scummy IMO Really disagree (surprising ? ). I literally dedicate all my evenings to this game lol. And I saw the reason the lynch changed yesterday
You disagree that having correct reads that you don't pursue is scummy?
Like just on an objective level, not considering the implications for yourself, you could see it right?
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Im feeling a bit lost tbh.
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I think CopCake is town
My tentative mafia team is Palmar/Jealous/?? Probably DMB, that in my mind was cleared until now by the CopCake scumread
MZ is on the "I promised Vivax a reread" pile, sorry probably still won't happen tonight after all ... or maybe it will, we'll see
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Perfection do you think cake and palmar can be partnered?
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On March 14 2024 12:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Perfection do you think cake and palmar can be partnered?
You sussed both of them so how does that work out for you?
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On March 14 2024 12:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 12:25 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 12:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc? Why doesn‘t he have any influence we have just done a 360 on all of his D1 reads. He doesn‘t play by presence. He has good reads but isn't proactive in the thread. That is scummy IMO Really disagree (surprising ? ). I literally dedicate all my evenings to this game lol. And I saw the reason the lynch changed yesterday You disagree that having correct reads that you don't pursue is scummy? Like just on an objective level, not considering the implications for yourself, you could see it right?
I disagree that I'm not proactive, and I disagree that I don't pursue my reads. Early game sure, but not anymore
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On March 14 2024 12:28 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 12:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 12:25 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 12:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc? Why doesn‘t he have any influence we have just done a 360 on all of his D1 reads. He doesn‘t play by presence. He has good reads but isn't proactive in the thread. That is scummy IMO Really disagree (surprising ? ). I literally dedicate all my evenings to this game lol. And I saw the reason the lynch changed yesterday You disagree that having correct reads that you don't pursue is scummy? Like just on an objective level, not considering the implications for yourself, you could see it right? I disagree that I'm not proactive, and I disagree that I don't pursue my reads. Early game sure, but not anymore
You say that, but you are literally parked on copcake and are calling her town...
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On March 12 2024 01:06 Palmar wrote:
I wanna talk a little about VE.
I have absolutely no idea what he is doing this game. He is playing incredibly "scummy" by not posting and just not taking part in the game, and he knows this. He has even pointed out, a few times I think, that he is being scummy. All of his posts are incredibly standoff-ish. The feeling I get is that every other thing he says is just "COME AT ME BRUH".
So what do I do with that? There is absolutely a chance that in his mind he's trying to... teach us a lesson? It's just so hard for me to justify wrangling myself into a position where it isn't just fake mafia bravado.
If we had less time, if we were one lynch away from lylo, I'd probably be doubting this lynch a little more, but as it stands I just can't find a non-stupid reason to call him town. The problem is I can find a stupid reason to call him town and I can't be fully confident it isn't the case.
But with time, lynching him is almost a no-brainer. He has, by far, the shortest filter of the players remaining, he hasn't done anything to help town. When reading through some of his stuff early on day 1 I found myself agreeing when someone scolded him and told him to try to be a good townie.
Like if you just make a list of people from those who have done the most to try to advance and solve the game (DP) to the least (VE) it makes basically no sense to let him get away with acting this way. This kind of playing is just not useful down the line.
This post that looked really reasonnable D3 looks really bad in retrospect
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On March 14 2024 12:30 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 12:28 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 12:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 12:25 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 12:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc? Why doesn‘t he have any influence we have just done a 360 on all of his D1 reads. He doesn‘t play by presence. He has good reads but isn't proactive in the thread. That is scummy IMO Really disagree (surprising ? ). I literally dedicate all my evenings to this game lol. And I saw the reason the lynch changed yesterday You disagree that having correct reads that you don't pursue is scummy? Like just on an objective level, not considering the implications for yourself, you could see it right? I disagree that I'm not proactive, and I disagree that I don't pursue my reads. Early game sure, but not anymore You say that, but you are literally parked on copcake and are calling her town...
Literally just finished catching up and rereading her
I think the issue you have is that I couldn't play while most of the other players are active. But that's the availability I have had until now
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On March 14 2024 12:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 12:30 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 12:28 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 12:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 12:25 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 12:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc? Why doesn‘t he have any influence we have just done a 360 on all of his D1 reads. He doesn‘t play by presence. He has good reads but isn't proactive in the thread. That is scummy IMO Really disagree (surprising ? ). I literally dedicate all my evenings to this game lol. And I saw the reason the lynch changed yesterday You disagree that having correct reads that you don't pursue is scummy? Like just on an objective level, not considering the implications for yourself, you could see it right? I disagree that I'm not proactive, and I disagree that I don't pursue my reads. Early game sure, but not anymore You say that, but you are literally parked on copcake and are calling her town... Literally just finished catching up and rereading her I think the issue you have is that I couldn't play while most of the other players are active. But that's the availability I have had until now
OK fair enough, I'll let you work.
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On March 12 2024 22:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 21:54 justanothertownie wrote:
But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy. Yeah no worries. It's actually kinda fun. The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind. The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly. Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread. The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try. That won't be the case if I'm the target.
Where is this happening???? You're voting for JAT, the player that probably townreads you the most in the game
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On March 14 2024 12:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Perfection do you think cake and palmar can be partnered?
I dont think its impossible.
Cop is more just confounding. I dont understand the way they think at all.
I think cop is more likely to be town the palmar though.
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