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On March 14 2024 11:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 08:55 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 07:15 Palmar wrote:On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess? No still working, I maybe think CC is town now. If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol. He knew Trfel was town He knew TTS was mafia When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum So much correct shit in his filter. finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter. There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious. Haha is that why you scumread me, because I've played too well :p At least I wasn't calling VE town yesterday ...
called you already called you scum before
just first time that somebody else shares scum thougths about you
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On March 14 2024 11:47 Pandain wrote:
who is watching us and should i cover my camara now and put some clothes on?
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On March 14 2024 11:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 08:55 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 07:15 Palmar wrote:On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess? No still working, I maybe think CC is town now. If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol. He knew Trfel was town He knew TTS was mafia When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum So much correct shit in his filter. finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter. There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious. Haha is that why you scumread me, because I've played too well :p At least I wasn't calling VE town yesterday ...
Im not sure that is the reason 
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On March 14 2024 11:42 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 11:33 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 11:30 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 11:17 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
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How does that fit with this at deadline:
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yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day Why did you claim it? why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I? I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over. What post made you change your mind? as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today????????? ??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to? #7864 You ask why i claimed #7871 I answer! #7872 you ask again what made me change my mind I already wrote it in #7871 it´s standing in the quotes as well. Sorry should i mark it for you from the quote in comic sans, capslook, pt/front size 5000, underline and make it shine like a rainbow?? this is not a word document sorry pas possible! The "pas possible" made me laugh  Don't have enough time if you don't want to cooperate by linking or quoting the post that made you change your mind, will revisit later I already marked it in the quote when I answerd but of course a mole can´t see it. Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.
But you replied to that post with:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2024 00:37 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk? How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M... If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town. There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment) As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
I don't understand how you could write such a long response detailing why it's wrong to claim, but then say the post you were replying to made you chagne your mind anyway
I know I shouldn't, but I really hate it. It looks like a reverse logic to me
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On March 14 2024 11:38 iamperfection wrote:A lot of things have bothered me today. Copcake makes a case on Koshi and then just almost instantly drops it just because Jat says thats how koshi plays and then votes palmar. Why does cop just accept as true it confuses me. Meapak_Ziphh comes back after 19 hours says hes too tired to be bothered to do anything but he has found scum? and is somehow not voting???? I keep hearing this idiotic comment that marv said palmar is 90% likely to be town. I get it you guys all worship marv but his word isnt gospel and he very well would probably be saying different things if he was still alive its day 4 now marv died in night 2. Palmar really bothers me. He calls me scum because i have just been around not doing anything?? Like i said earlier you can say a lot of things about me but not engaged and not in the thick of things is certainly not one of them. I exposed the mason circle and tried to get reads from it. I correctly deduced that Rayn had to be town from the way he used it and almost immediately tried to make him mayor for it. Right or wrong i was screaming at the top of my longs to lynch tryfel it was wrong but so what. I have constantly been directing and calling out actions. I literally hammered VE in a quest for personal glory it backfired so what. To say i have been just around is objectively wrong. Now palmar says he dosnt really read the thread that he just shows hes around interacts and develops reads. I dont really feel like has done that all in this game. I think if anyone with a quarter of a brain which ill grant palmar he has a quarter of a brain could easily use meta to see i am town. This would be by FAR the largest filter i have ever had as mafia. I would also say i am much less emotional as mafia and much more reserved. My style as town requires me to post a ton and usually in quick succession. Thats why i will have mind melds which happened earlier with marv where we said the same thing. As mafia that is extremely hard for me to replicate. At least for a long period. Also as mafia its very hard for me to long posts like this were i have to fake my thoughts i just have hard time to do it. So those long list posts and posts were i collect my thoughts like i had earlier and this one quite frankly are hard for me to do. I dont think palmar is trying figure out my alignment because he is being bad or more likely just mafia. Now do i think JAT could possibly be mafia. Yes its possible he had a post earlier where he almost knew that koshi was mafia. {but iamperfection you said earlier that koshi is likely town) well first of all stfu second there is a diffrence between knowing and thinking. Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.
This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.
And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.
I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point. What a town hero does. Analyse. I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post. You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore. not the biggest thing but the post bothers me. He also seems a bit apathetic to what is going on. So yes i think its possible. MZ's comeback post also bothers me and the fact that he isnt voting despite finding scum Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home, had a shit day so I really don't have the energy to jump into filters right now, especially since I've already found 1 scum at minimum this cycle. I'll hang around the thread and play some league if people want my opinions on anything just ask. However in my eyes palmar is the most likely mafia.
I may have to reread palmar... I don´t see him as Town but also not that scummy.
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The thing with palmar is that after day one I was pretty set in stone on him being town, and my ego doesn't really want to consider that I was wrong.
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On March 14 2024 12:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 11:42 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 11:33 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 11:30 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 11:17 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
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yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it? why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I? I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over. What post made you change your mind? as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today????????? ??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to? #7864 You ask why i claimed #7871 I answer! #7872 you ask again what made me change my mind I already wrote it in #7871 it´s standing in the quotes as well. Sorry should i mark it for you from the quote in comic sans, capslook, pt/front size 5000, underline and make it shine like a rainbow?? this is not a word document sorry pas possible! The "pas possible" made me laugh Don't have enough time if you don't want to cooperate by linking or quoting the post that made you change your mind, will revisit later I already marked it in the quote when I answerd but of course a mole can´t see it. On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.
There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. But you replied to that post with: Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2024 00:37 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk? How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M... If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town. There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment) As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane) I don't understand how you could write such a long response detailing why it's wrong to claim, but then say the post you were replying to made you chagne your mind anyway I know I shouldn't, but I really hate it. It looks like a reverse logic to me
uhh i think about what people are writing... uhhh thats so bad. like wtf are we talking about here.
this whole conversation has convinced me and yes the post i replied to is part of it
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On March 14 2024 06:58 Palmar wrote:
I've for some reason played extremely carefully this game and it's gotten me nowhere. I've sat on reads to try to placate people and be a good boy but I think i'm just kinda done with it.
I think iamp is mafia
Don't like this post at all.
Why would you be doing this Palmar. That does not seem like you AT ALL.
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On March 14 2024 07:03 Palmar wrote:Too many people have decided to play weird this game too. Like we should objectively lynch CC for making absolutely no sense. Her reads are terrible, and the way in which she achieves them is terrible. Her constant tinfoiling is super annoying and doesn't actually help anyone. Do I know if she's mafia for it? No. I'm probably going to vote her this cycle because I see no chance of getting iamp killed this cycle. Also, this has been in the back of my mind the entire game, because it was like the one point I agreed with rayn on when we were arguing on N1 Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 21:40 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why do you* I dont think he is town. Its impossible youthink DP is pocketing Palmar if you dont think Palmar is town, if youre town. So i guess youre mafia.
This is a good post, why did it take you forever to see this though?
Why not see this last phase When i pointed it out?
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On March 14 2024 12:07 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:03 Palmar wrote:Too many people have decided to play weird this game too. Like we should objectively lynch CC for making absolutely no sense. Her reads are terrible, and the way in which she achieves them is terrible. Her constant tinfoiling is super annoying and doesn't actually help anyone. Do I know if she's mafia for it? No. I'm probably going to vote her this cycle because I see no chance of getting iamp killed this cycle. Also, this has been in the back of my mind the entire game, because it was like the one point I agreed with rayn on when we were arguing on N1 On March 06 2024 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 21:40 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why do you* I dont think he is town. Its impossible youthink DP is pocketing Palmar if you dont think Palmar is town, if youre town. So i guess youre mafia. This is a good post, why did it take you forever to see this though? Why not see this last phase When i pointed it out?
Why is cake 'deciding to play weird' and not just mafia?
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When is the Oats stuff you mentioned related to CC DP? I mean, which phase?
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On March 14 2024 07:12 Palmar wrote:
I'm just gonna go say Rels is lock town.
Why?
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On March 14 2024 12:05 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 06:58 Palmar wrote:
I've for some reason played extremely carefully this game and it's gotten me nowhere. I've sat on reads to try to placate people and be a good boy but I think i'm just kinda done with it.
I think iamp is mafia Don't like this post at all. Why would you be doing this Palmar. That does not seem like you AT ALL.
He‘s almost concerned that he couldn‘t come across as scummy as he wanted to.
Writing a case on dead rayn wasn‘t enough.
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Ohh fair point perfection
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CopCake early game is so townie. Her martyring in the first half of D3 and then the VE flip made me re evaluate, but rereading now I have a hard time believe she's scum
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On March 14 2024 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Ok I got to say it.
If Palmar is town.
And that is still a big if.
CC is lock mafia for the n1 nks.
rayn was wrong about literally everything except CC and she would want him dead.
Sandroba was on CC as well.
That makes that DP was right all the time.
That makes rels his vote is correct.
That makes the iamp change to VE sus as fuck.
Etc
FFS THANKYOU.
I have literally been living in this world the entire fucking game.
And then I get yelled at because you are being so fucking dense. My god.
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On March 04 2024 15:37 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 15:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Oats and DP scum for scraping the bottom of the barrel?
Do either of you even have mayor picks of your own?
This is why I prefer Rayn, on like 5 posts, to either of you.
Yeesh.
Tothesky is some dude I have never seen before. Idk, I give Oats a pass for being new here? And not knowing the oh so called meta? Darth on the other hand, feels odd.
Weird post to make on a partner, so obviously partner indicative ...
On March 05 2024 05:10 CopCake wrote:##Vote: ToTheStars Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:55 ToTheStars wrote:
I also have a weak townlean on DP and Vivax
You guys are so slow with your day starts though, how can you make 0 votes in first 3 pages. Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).
I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).
And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads. You are very confident you are going to survive late.
Not impossible vote early on a partner, but town points for being able to come with a new reasonning anyway (I had already posted mine earlier that she could have sheeped)
On March 05 2024 17:18 CopCake wrote:
Btw I am sorry but tue Vivax claim doesnt clear him 100%.
I agree that is insane and mostly town but
There is a chance of being the most amazing mafia move ever.
Those are iron guts.
I honestly drop my confident read of dumb, like i dont understand why vivax ca not do this as mafia, and she is so confident. That confidence of knowing he is not lying is what makes vivax townish in this scenario.
Like questioning stuff is what a town should do which is why I like Koshi and JAT.
Unlikely theory, when scum knows whether Vivax is town
Similar to the "DP is not conf town" mindset she still has
On March 06 2024 14:05 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 13:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Its completely unreasonable to think those people are mafia for lynching Trfel unless you think Palmar is 100% mafia. My theory is that they wanted Tfrel out of the equation. I honestly do not know where to place Palmar there. Ie. Koshi wanted to lynch Tfrel but he respected other people’s view on him he contained (even mine) Here, we have vivax who called tfrel bad and mafia many times for not being active when I proved that Tfrel is not a spammer. 🤷🏽♀️ They only started the wagon because DP came in. DP knows about Tfrel good reads. It also bugs me a lot that Tfrel HAVE talked about his mental health issues before and there are several active TL frequent posters who know that. I have never also found Vivax to be pedantic? And in this game it feels so. He tends to fight the status quo but not here.
Crazy theory that the scum team conspired to kill Trfel
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On March 14 2024 08:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Ok I got to say it.
If Palmar is town.
And that is still a big if.
CC is lock mafia for the n1 nks.
rayn was wrong about literally everything except CC and she would want him dead.
Sandroba was on CC as well.
That makes that DP was right all the time.
That makes rels his vote is correct.
That makes the iamp change to VE sus as fuck.
Etc Not sure if we can take it that far but yeah. DP will have earned the right to be absolutely insufferable if this is all correct
True.
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On March 14 2024 08:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 08:07 Palmar wrote:On March 14 2024 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Ok I got to say it.
If Palmar is town.
And that is still a big if.
CC is lock mafia for the n1 nks.
rayn was wrong about literally everything except CC and she would want him dead.
Sandroba was on CC as well.
That makes that DP was right all the time.
That makes rels his vote is correct.
That makes the iamp change to VE sus as fuck.
Etc Not sure if we can take it that far but yeah. DP will have earned the right to be absolutely insufferable if this is all correct He can push iamperfection for ruining the cop lim why doesn‘t he ? Prime opportunity
I don't think that is enough on it's own. I have never seen Perfection play mafia like this before.
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On March 14 2024 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 09:17 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 09:15 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 09:09 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 09:06 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote:
As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost so working like a RL mayor? Jealous/Jat/??? go, apes together strong Koshi/Reels/??? Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures. All for one and one for all. All for one and one for all, united we stand divided we fall. You need to reread Koshi. He‘s very unlikely to be mafia after he went bazooka sparklefairy today Yeah I know, he started to play like he do as Town, but way to late. He looks better since I called him first lazy mafia and people maybe started to filter him.
He was at the start calm, tiny reads so it doesn´t get to suspicious. His first 2 days are just not Town Koshi! But as the mayjor wishes I will reread him Also you tell me I should just reread Koshi. Whats your opinion on Rels? And don´t fucking tell me that he is the the clairvoyant of the Town or some kind of bullshit like this. Give me a fucking real read on him and tell me you are not voting Rels!! #Vote Rels
Sorry DMB the bolded is just flat out wrong.
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