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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 14 2024 02:14 GMT
#7881
On March 14 2024 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.

There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.


yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????


There is nothing wrong with it.


Then why is he asking that?
You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 14 2024 02:15 GMT
#7882
On March 14 2024 11:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:01 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:50 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:37 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]

How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum?
It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M...

If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.

There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.


yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



I don't really see what you are getting at here.

"This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid"
(12 hours later)
"I'm mason"


Yeah, do you think that is alignment indicative in some way?

I instinctively hate it but I recognize that it might be not be AI


Can you post a list post? palmar asked both of us to do it.

Still catching up. And I feel way less sure about CopCake than I was yesterday. Her STILL not considering you confirmed town doesn't make any kind of sense as scum
After I'm done I'll rehash CopCake and see if I think she's town or not. It feels like the turning point of the game, with the rest flowing from it
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 02:17 GMT
#7883
On March 14 2024 11:15 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:01 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:50 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
[quote]
If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.

There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.


yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



I don't really see what you are getting at here.

"This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid"
(12 hours later)
"I'm mason"


Yeah, do you think that is alignment indicative in some way?

I instinctively hate it but I recognize that it might be not be AI


Can you post a list post? palmar asked both of us to do it.

Still catching up. And I feel way less sure about CopCake than I was yesterday. Her STILL not considering you confirmed town doesn't make any kind of sense as scum
After I'm done I'll rehash CopCake and see if I think she's town or not. It feels like the turning point of the game, with the rest flowing from it


Agree with all of this pretty much. If you are looking at cake, I would appreciate your take on the Cake/oats interactions.

I tend to think its a bit much for scum theatre.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 14 2024 02:17 GMT
#7884
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.

There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.


yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????

??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on

I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
March 14 2024 02:17 GMT
#7885
On March 14 2024 11:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]

yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????


There is nothing wrong with it.


Then why is he asking that?
You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.


This is the weirdest theme blending I have ever seen.
Goblins, Leprechauns and Harry Potter ?
Just missing the angry pirate
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 02:17 GMT
#7886
On March 14 2024 11:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]

yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????


There is nothing wrong with it.


Then why is he asking that?
You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.


LMAO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 02:18 GMT
#7887
Here is the reason for lynching JAT in my estimation.

Low impact Low presence.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 14 2024 02:18 GMT
#7888
On March 14 2024 11:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]

yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????


There is nothing wrong with it.


Then why is he asking that?
You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.


I thing you are scum. I call you scum. I vote you!

And really you just try to turn it around and want to find reasons what make me scum? Okey go in my Filter and search, but there is for sure better stuff then this inside!!! What kind of move was that? just because I make Dp and Vivax think about your aligment you getting on me. SEARCH REAL REASONS PLS!!!!!!!!!!
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 14 2024 02:20 GMT
#7889
On March 14 2024 11:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:15 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:01 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:50 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]

yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



I don't really see what you are getting at here.

"This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid"
(12 hours later)
"I'm mason"


Yeah, do you think that is alignment indicative in some way?

I instinctively hate it but I recognize that it might be not be AI


Can you post a list post? palmar asked both of us to do it.

Still catching up. And I feel way less sure about CopCake than I was yesterday. Her STILL not considering you confirmed town doesn't make any kind of sense as scum
After I'm done I'll rehash CopCake and see if I think she's town or not. It feels like the turning point of the game, with the rest flowing from it


Agree with all of this pretty much. If you are looking at cake, I would appreciate your take on the Cake/oats interactions.

I tend to think its a bit much for scum theatre.

Also saw that she voted TTS very early ...
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 14 2024 02:21 GMT
#7890
On March 14 2024 11:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????


There is nothing wrong with it.


Then why is he asking that?
You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.


I thing you are scum. I call you scum. I vote you!

And really you just try to turn it around and want to find reasons what make me scum? Okey go in my Filter and search, but there is for sure better stuff then this inside!!! What kind of move was that? just because I make Dp and Vivax think about your aligment you getting on me. SEARCH REAL REASONS PLS!!!!!!!!!!

??? Are you talking to me?
I didn't even know you scumread and voted me. Still not caught up
Now can you stop defending yourself / trying to imagine why I'm asking quesiton and just answer it?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 02:21 GMT
#7891
On March 14 2024 11:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:15 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:01 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:50 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



I don't really see what you are getting at here.

"This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid"
(12 hours later)
"I'm mason"


Yeah, do you think that is alignment indicative in some way?

I instinctively hate it but I recognize that it might be not be AI


Can you post a list post? palmar asked both of us to do it.

Still catching up. And I feel way less sure about CopCake than I was yesterday. Her STILL not considering you confirmed town doesn't make any kind of sense as scum
After I'm done I'll rehash CopCake and see if I think she's town or not. It feels like the turning point of the game, with the rest flowing from it


Agree with all of this pretty much. If you are looking at cake, I would appreciate your take on the Cake/oats interactions.

I tend to think its a bit much for scum theatre.

Also saw that she voted TTS very early ...


What do you make of that?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 14 2024 02:22 GMT
#7892
On March 14 2024 11:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:20 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:15 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:01 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:50 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
[quote]
How does that fit with this at deadline:
[quote]


I don't really see what you are getting at here.

"This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid"
(12 hours later)
"I'm mason"


Yeah, do you think that is alignment indicative in some way?

I instinctively hate it but I recognize that it might be not be AI


Can you post a list post? palmar asked both of us to do it.

Still catching up. And I feel way less sure about CopCake than I was yesterday. Her STILL not considering you confirmed town doesn't make any kind of sense as scum
After I'm done I'll rehash CopCake and see if I think she's town or not. It feels like the turning point of the game, with the rest flowing from it


Agree with all of this pretty much. If you are looking at cake, I would appreciate your take on the Cake/oats interactions.

I tend to think its a bit much for scum theatre.

Also saw that she voted TTS very early ...


What do you make of that?

Will keep it in mind during reread. On its face slightly townie ofc, but it depends on how it was done
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
March 14 2024 02:23 GMT
#7893
On March 14 2024 11:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
[quote]
How does that fit with this at deadline:
[quote]


yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????


There is nothing wrong with it.


Then why is he asking that?
You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.


I thing you are scum. I call you scum. I vote you!

And really you just try to turn it around and want to find reasons what make me scum? Okey go in my Filter and search, but there is for sure better stuff then this inside!!! What kind of move was that? just because I make Dp and Vivax think about your aligment you getting on me. SEARCH REAL REASONS PLS!!!!!!!!!!

??? Are you talking to me?
I didn't even know you scumread and voted me. Still not caught up
Now can you stop defending yourself / trying to imagine why I'm asking quesiton and just answer it?


Let the scumbuddies hit the floor
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 14 2024 02:30 GMT
#7894
On March 14 2024 11:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town.

There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad.


yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????

??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on

I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to?


#7864
You ask why i claimed

#7871
I answer!

#7872
you ask again what made me change my mind

I already wrote it in #7871
it´s standing in the quotes as well.

Sorry should i mark it for you from the quote in comic sans, capslook, pt/front size 5000, underline and make it shine like a rainbow?? this is not a word document sorry pas possible!

Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 14 2024 02:30 GMT
#7895
On March 14 2024 11:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:21 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]

yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????


There is nothing wrong with it.


Then why is he asking that?
You'll find Rel's perfect filter at the end of the rainbow. If you stay on it too long, goblins will jump out of your screen. So why is he asking usless question and playing dobby here. Pls master give me a sock and ask a real question were the answer matters.


I thing you are scum. I call you scum. I vote you!

And really you just try to turn it around and want to find reasons what make me scum? Okey go in my Filter and search, but there is for sure better stuff then this inside!!! What kind of move was that? just because I make Dp and Vivax think about your aligment you getting on me. SEARCH REAL REASONS PLS!!!!!!!!!!

??? Are you talking to me?
I didn't even know you scumread and voted me. Still not caught up
Now can you stop defending yourself / trying to imagine why I'm asking quesiton and just answer it?


Let the scumbuddies hit the floor


the what?!?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 14 2024 02:31 GMT
#7896
On March 14 2024 04:39 Koshi wrote:
First post by Palmar:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 19:22 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 13:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 12 2024 01:06 Palmar wrote:
I wanna talk a little about VE.

I have absolutely no idea what he is doing this game. He is playing incredibly "scummy" by not posting and just not taking part in the game, and he knows this. He has even pointed out, a few times I think, that he is being scummy. All of his posts are incredibly standoff-ish. The feeling I get is that every other thing he says is just "COME AT ME BRUH".

So what do I do with that? There is absolutely a chance that in his mind he's trying to... teach us a lesson? It's just so hard for me to justify wrangling myself into a position where it isn't just fake mafia bravado.

If we had less time, if we were one lynch away from lylo, I'd probably be doubting this lynch a little more, but as it stands I just can't find a non-stupid reason to call him town. The problem is I can find a stupid reason to call him town and I can't be fully confident it isn't the case.

But with time, lynching him is almost a no-brainer. He has, by far, the shortest filter of the players remaining, he hasn't done anything to help town. When reading through some of his stuff early on day 1 I found myself agreeing when someone scolded him and told him to try to be a good townie.

Like if you just make a list of people from those who have done the most to try to advance and solve the game (DP) to the least (VE) it makes basically no sense to let him get away with acting this way. This kind of playing is just not useful down the line.

Feel like palmar knew ve was town. The whole teach us a lesson part.

No, I voted him. I thought he would flip mafia, because now I just have to accept he decided to behave like an ass for no reason.

I just know that I don't know. This entire post is justifying killing him while waffling slightly on my behalf.

Incidentally a lot of my very early game gut reads have been correct. Trfel town, Oats scum, VE town etc

I feel like that's maybe an avenue for me to go back and think why I thought those things back then, but that's all just internal approach.

By the way, we still have to lynch incorrectly 3 times in a row to lose, so no reason to panic. VE was always going to be lynch-bait and he for some reason didn't even try to help win the game. It's not a disaster. It's a taking out the trash lynch and we can easily approach tomorrow.

Here's a thought, and somewhat of an internal process as well. I can't think of a single reason, I actually read VE's filter, to confidently say he's town. So I'm actually somewhat interested in why the people that didn't vote him didn't. I'm sure some of them just had a better read than I did, but I need to figure out the reasons because I'm also sure some of them had pretty shit reasons for it.


Nothing in here where you see the wheels in his head turning after a shocking flip. Nothing.

Mafiaaaaaa

Meeeh
Good post on Palmar
I think I'm getting around dropping my dumbtell thing on Palmar ... very unimpressive performance today, when I seemed happy yesterday that he was going to be pushed because it was going to solve the game apparently ...
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 14 2024 02:33 GMT
#7897
On March 14 2024 11:30 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 11:17 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]

yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful.
I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment)

As an example:
DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason
I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia

This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)


This posts strikes me as really townie.

Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.


How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!

Btw i am in a mason chat



yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day




Why did you claim it?


why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I?

I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is.
I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.

What post made you change your mind?


as I wrote I don´t have to hide with the mason chat. even if somebody turns my words around and claims bullshit in the thread it´s bad for them as well
and Dp rembering me that I may be a bit to parnoid about the mason

So what is wrong about me telling Town that I am the mason of today?????????

??? Who cares what I think about it? You're the one that said it would be a bad thing to claim, and then did it 12 hours later. That's what I'm pressing you on

I don't understand your answer. What do you mean, "as I wrote"? What post you wrote are you referring to?


#7864
You ask why i claimed

#7871
I answer!

#7872
you ask again what made me change my mind

I already wrote it in #7871
it´s standing in the quotes as well.

Sorry should i mark it for you from the quote in comic sans, capslook, pt/front size 5000, underline and make it shine like a rainbow?? this is not a word document sorry pas possible!


The "pas possible" made me laugh
Don't have enough time if you don't want to cooperate by linking or quoting the post that made you change your mind, will revisit later
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 14 2024 02:36 GMT
#7898
I'm at page 385 (10 to go!). JAT seems very reasonnable every time he posts, I can see why he would post this from a townie perspective in his posts. That's not a confirmed town point as I think he's a pretty good scum, but that's something. I also remember a few posts where we basically had the same thoughts. The reactions to the 3 VE cases come to mind, and I know they are others, can't remember them off the top of my head

Putting this out there since he's getting pushed
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 14 2024 02:38 GMT
#7899
A lot of things have bothered me today. Copcake makes a case on Koshi and then just almost instantly drops it just because Jat says thats how koshi plays and then votes palmar. Why does cop just accept as true it confuses me. Meapak_Ziphh comes back after 19 hours says hes too tired to be bothered to do anything but he has found scum? and is somehow not voting????

I keep hearing this idiotic comment that marv said palmar is 90% likely to be town. I get it you guys all worship marv but his word isnt gospel and he very well would probably be saying different things if he was still alive its day 4 now marv died in night 2.

Palmar really bothers me. He calls me scum because i have just been around not doing anything?? Like i said earlier you can say a lot of things about me but not engaged and not in the thick of things is certainly not one of them. I exposed the mason circle and tried to get reads from it. I correctly deduced that Rayn had to be town from the way he used it and almost immediately tried to make him mayor for it. Right or wrong i was screaming at the top of my longs to lynch tryfel it was wrong but so what. I have constantly been directing and calling out actions. I literally hammered VE in a quest for personal glory it backfired so what. To say i have been just around is objectively wrong.

Now palmar says he dosnt really read the thread that he just shows hes around interacts and develops reads. I dont really feel like has done that all in this game. I think if anyone with a quarter of a brain which ill grant palmar he has a quarter of a brain could easily use meta to see i am town. This would be by FAR the largest filter i have ever had as mafia. I would also say i am much less emotional as mafia and much more reserved. My style as town requires me to post a ton and usually in quick succession. Thats why i will have mind melds which happened earlier with marv where we said the same thing. As mafia that is extremely hard for me to replicate. At least for a long period. Also as mafia its very hard for me to long posts like this were i have to fake my thoughts i just have hard time to do it. So those long list posts and posts were i collect my thoughts like i had earlier and this one quite frankly are hard for me to do. I dont think palmar is trying figure out my alignment because he is being bad or more likely just mafia.

Now do i think JAT could possibly be mafia. Yes its possible he had a post earlier where he almost knew that koshi was mafia. {but iamperfection you said earlier that koshi is likely town) well first of all stfu second there is a diffrence between knowing and thinking.

On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.

You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.

not the biggest thing but the post bothers me. He also seems a bit apathetic to what is going on.

So yes i think its possible.

MZ's comeback post also bothers me and the fact that he isnt voting despite finding scum

On March 14 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home, had a shit day so I really don't have the energy to jump into filters right now, especially since I've already found 1 scum at minimum this cycle. I'll hang around the thread and play some league if people want my opinions on anything just ask.



However in my eyes palmar is the most likely mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 14 2024 02:39 GMT
#7900
please comment on my thoughts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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