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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:20 GMT
#7661
On March 14 2024 04:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote:
This is just random and for post-game purposes.

We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).

1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question
2) TTS - Complete inactivity
3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia
4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why

But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad.


Palmar didn‘t notice the guy who didn‘t post for half a day started out by claiming VT.

TTS and hapa are mischaracterized.
TTs played early, then fucked off. For hapa it‘s the opposite.

You can interchangeably use his reasons for his TtS and Hapa verdicts. They are barely different. It‘s fake.

His Oats read was also extremely subpar. I know I repeat myself but now with the flip I am even more suspicious. Because he had to save himself and bussed a teammate weakly, then let himself get convinced Oats was town.
Town!Palmar could have done more there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:26 GMT
#7662
On March 14 2024 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Jealous is someone I need to reread for sure. I kind of ignored his existence so far.

This is the problem with you.
We have had 4 confirmed town since forever, a town looking CC after town!VE flipped, and last night you were just happy holding the status quo with Palmar town.

You are not doing PoE and actively finding mafia. You are just waiting and reacting. Thinking you can adapt to the new situations when they come. But you have no list in your head who you PoEd is mafia. After the VE flip the world was on its head.
But not for Palmar & you.

You do this as your first post after a huge shocker:
On March 12 2024 19:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv did not say palmar is mafia. He strongly called him town. How are you all getting this wrong. VEs case was also not very good.

I really love how you put your own name in the list of people who read him mafia though.

Defending Palmar against a confirmed town.

And now you go for the too scummy to be scum together defense?
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 13 2024 19:26 GMT
#7663
He had tts and hapa not in the same bunch too at one point.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:26 GMT
#7664
I laugh at you JAT
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 13 2024 19:26 GMT
#7665
On March 14 2024 04:26 iamperfection wrote:
He had tts and hapa not in the same bunch too at one point.

Palmar that is
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:28 GMT
#7666
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 13 2024 19:29 GMT
#7667
On March 14 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Jealous is someone I need to reread for sure. I kind of ignored his existence so far.

This is the problem with you.
We have had 4 confirmed town since forever, a town looking CC after town!VE flipped, and last night you were just happy holding the status quo with Palmar town.

You are not doing PoE and actively finding mafia. You are just waiting and reacting. Thinking you can adapt to the new situations when they come. But you have no list in your head who you PoEd is mafia. After the VE flip the world was on its head.
But not for Palmar & you.

You do this as your first post after a huge shocker:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 19:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv did not say palmar is mafia. He strongly called him town. How are you all getting this wrong. VEs case was also not very good.

I really love how you put your own name in the list of people who read him mafia though.

Defending Palmar against a confirmed town.

And now you go for the too scummy to be scum together defense?

Why should I care if it is a confirmed town I am defending Palmar against? That makes absolutely no sense. And I literally posted a PoE list yesterday so you can get the fuck out with that nonsense as well.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:29 GMT
#7668
Adapt:
On March 12 2024 11:09 iamperfection wrote:
Palmar + cop + someone


Self reflect on a potential terrible vote:
On March 12 2024 11:19 Rels wrote:
really, really hope CopCake doesn't turn out to be scum
I don't really know what this means for the game ... I guess we'll see tomorrow with a fresh mind
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:29 GMT
#7669
Weird stuff:
On March 12 2024 11:08 Jealous wrote:
To be entirely fair I can't fault y'all too much, I said I would have been fine with a VE lynch the following day unless something crazy happened.

Still, let me be mad at y'all for a bit. Buncha shennanying maniacs. Y'all do it so often that it is basically NAI, which makes it worse. Still doesn't make me hate y'all any less.

Y'all better pray CopCake flips town at some point or I will never forgive you.

I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 13 2024 19:30 GMT
#7670
On March 14 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:
I laugh at you JAT

That's great!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 13 2024 19:30 GMT
#7671
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:32 GMT
#7672
This wasnt his first post but this is what JAT/Palmar had to do:
On March 12 2024 15:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yeah mafia is Palmer, Koshi, easy not sure on last

Cc is town because playing so drastically against win con as scum when you know ve is town is dumb.

It was scummy before but now we know VE is town Cc is town.

Unless we lynch Palmer and he flips town then it's cc rels and still not sure on last.

I like jealous and mz, Jat in that order of townness.

I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 13 2024 19:32 GMT
#7673
On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.

You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 13 2024 19:33 GMT
#7674
On March 14 2024 04:32 Koshi wrote:
This wasnt his first post but this is what JAT/Palmar had to do:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 15:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yeah mafia is Palmer, Koshi, easy not sure on last

Cc is town because playing so drastically against win con as scum when you know ve is town is dumb.

It was scummy before but now we know VE is town Cc is town.

Unless we lynch Palmer and he flips town then it's cc rels and still not sure on last.

I like jealous and mz, Jat in that order of townness.


What do I have to do because he likes me?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:34 GMT
#7675
On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.

It's ok because he is posting his entire thought process. It's not only what happened, he also draws a conclusion around cc and Rels which is the same as JSL did.
Reading this made it clearer for me that cc is not mafia. And I know it did the same in his head.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:36 GMT
#7676
On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.

You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.

COOL STORY BRO

When are those reads coming? Are you guys already finished organising a come back or is it this?

Ignore & deflect
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:39 GMT
#7677
First post by Palmar:
On March 12 2024 19:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 13:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 12 2024 01:06 Palmar wrote:
I wanna talk a little about VE.

I have absolutely no idea what he is doing this game. He is playing incredibly "scummy" by not posting and just not taking part in the game, and he knows this. He has even pointed out, a few times I think, that he is being scummy. All of his posts are incredibly standoff-ish. The feeling I get is that every other thing he says is just "COME AT ME BRUH".

So what do I do with that? There is absolutely a chance that in his mind he's trying to... teach us a lesson? It's just so hard for me to justify wrangling myself into a position where it isn't just fake mafia bravado.

If we had less time, if we were one lynch away from lylo, I'd probably be doubting this lynch a little more, but as it stands I just can't find a non-stupid reason to call him town. The problem is I can find a stupid reason to call him town and I can't be fully confident it isn't the case.

But with time, lynching him is almost a no-brainer. He has, by far, the shortest filter of the players remaining, he hasn't done anything to help town. When reading through some of his stuff early on day 1 I found myself agreeing when someone scolded him and told him to try to be a good townie.

Like if you just make a list of people from those who have done the most to try to advance and solve the game (DP) to the least (VE) it makes basically no sense to let him get away with acting this way. This kind of playing is just not useful down the line.

Feel like palmar knew ve was town. The whole teach us a lesson part.

No, I voted him. I thought he would flip mafia, because now I just have to accept he decided to behave like an ass for no reason.

I just know that I don't know. This entire post is justifying killing him while waffling slightly on my behalf.

Incidentally a lot of my very early game gut reads have been correct. Trfel town, Oats scum, VE town etc

I feel like that's maybe an avenue for me to go back and think why I thought those things back then, but that's all just internal approach.

By the way, we still have to lynch incorrectly 3 times in a row to lose, so no reason to panic. VE was always going to be lynch-bait and he for some reason didn't even try to help win the game. It's not a disaster. It's a taking out the trash lynch and we can easily approach tomorrow.

Here's a thought, and somewhat of an internal process as well. I can't think of a single reason, I actually read VE's filter, to confidently say he's town. So I'm actually somewhat interested in why the people that didn't vote him didn't. I'm sure some of them just had a better read than I did, but I need to figure out the reasons because I'm also sure some of them had pretty shit reasons for it.


Nothing in here where you see the wheels in his head turning after a shocking flip. Nothing.

Mafiaaaaaa
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 13 2024 19:39 GMT
#7678
On March 14 2024 04:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.

You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.

COOL STORY BRO

When are those reads coming? Are you guys already finished organising a come back or is it this?

Ignore & deflect

It is good to have town Koshi back in this game.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 19:41 GMT
#7679
How both Palmar and JAT do not turn on each other or even easier me is beyond me.

There is mafia within us 3. That is obvious after that flip.

But no hostility or investigation at first. The wheels did not do clickclickclick.
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 13 2024 19:41 GMT
#7680
Let him cook
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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