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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 13 2024 15:39 GMT
#7621
I would move koshi out of my scum tier from my.list post right now.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 13 2024 15:40 GMT
#7622
On March 14 2024 00:37 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 00:31 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:30 Jealous wrote:
Bro, after coming into the game like 36 hours late I sheeped your read and vote on Trfel, which in your world looks bad for me that I didn't vote for JAT? Lmao


Some say trfel was iamps wagon, some say it was mine depending on how it suits them at the moment.

You spend too much time arguing about my bad votes when you should know I‘m confirmed town so that makes you a lowly shitflinger, not a scumhunter

Was responding to Koshi, because Koshi is the one who gave me the read on Trfel on D1.

The timing of the posts here was unfortunate because your post came up between mine and Koshi's, so I can forgive the self-insert here, but as I said earlier, I'm done defending myself against you. For example, your most recent interpretation of my scum!iamp quote is the most ungenerous interpretation possible, because you already scum read me and will just twist any post you find to fit your narrative. That's fine, keep digging that tunnel.


There is no tunnel I can dig. That‘s the closure you‘re offering because you‘re afraid of engaging with this.
You‘re all buzzwords and bravado and nothing behind it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 13 2024 15:40 GMT
#7623
On March 14 2024 00:39 iamperfection wrote:
I would move koshi out of my scum tier from my.list post right now.


Seems good to me he‘s towned it up massively
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 13 2024 15:40 GMT
#7624
On March 14 2024 00:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 00:37 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:31 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:30 Jealous wrote:
Bro, after coming into the game like 36 hours late I sheeped your read and vote on Trfel, which in your world looks bad for me that I didn't vote for JAT? Lmao


Some say trfel was iamps wagon, some say it was mine depending on how it suits them at the moment.

You spend too much time arguing about my bad votes when you should know I‘m confirmed town so that makes you a lowly shitflinger, not a scumhunter

Was responding to Koshi, because Koshi is the one who gave me the read on Trfel on D1.

The timing of the posts here was unfortunate because your post came up between mine and Koshi's, so I can forgive the self-insert here, but as I said earlier, I'm done defending myself against you. For example, your most recent interpretation of my scum!iamp quote is the most ungenerous interpretation possible, because you already scum read me and will just twist any post you find to fit your narrative. That's fine, keep digging that tunnel.


There is no tunnel I can dig. That‘s the closure you‘re offering because you‘re afraid of engaging with this.
You‘re all buzzwords and bravado and nothing behind it.

I have had similar feelings.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 15:42 GMT
#7625
On March 14 2024 00:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 00:39 iamperfection wrote:
I would move koshi out of my scum tier from my.list post right now.


Seems good to me he‘s towned it up massively

🥲
I had a good night of sleep.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10146 Posts
March 13 2024 15:46 GMT
#7626
On March 14 2024 00:33 Vivax wrote:
You put special emphasis on how I voted Ve when you were on Oats but you had no intention of calling me mafia

You can‘t prove you‘re town so you have to resort to discrediting.

I'm not trying to prove that you are scum because as I've said in every single reads post I've made, I don't think that it's likely. I'm demonstrating that your approach to the game has been consistently wrong. A town who consistently mislynches towns and starts wagons on towns is just being a bad town player. My defense against your accusations is that accusations coming from someone who has consistently been wrong shouldn't hold water. So, in essence, yes, I am discrediting you.

I don't have a role claim to hide behind to prove I am town. If VTs could just prove without a shadow of a doubt that they are town, then there wouldn't be much of a point to this game, would it?

I pointed out that my vote on Oats never wavered while many others' did. But, that doesn't prove I'm town. It's just one piece of information in a bigger picture. Another would be that I've been scumreading TTS from the start. But, again, that doesn't prove I'm town. I could point out that if CopCake gets lynched and flips scum, then I'll have essentially bussed three of my supposed teammates, while you tunneled on town!VE. But CopCake didn't get lynched, VE did, and it doesn't look like CopCake is getting lynched today either, so I don't have proof there either.

No matter how you slice it, besides you getting a role PM and then claiming it on D1, your actions would look objectively worse than mine (not saying that claiming D1 was a great move either). But because you put yourself in this position of being practically confirmed town, you think that makes you above reproach. It doesn't.

In short, OMGUS.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 15:47 GMT
#7627
Jealous, dmb, JAT and Palmar just need to talk about Jealous, dmb, JAT and Palmar.

DP and CC need to stfu.

MZ will do fine because he is one of the few still doing the work.

Rels is the town hero that currently is addicted to hookers & cocaine but will turn his life around and lead us to victory once again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 15:48 GMT
#7628
On March 14 2024 00:46 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 00:33 Vivax wrote:
You put special emphasis on how I voted Ve when you were on Oats but you had no intention of calling me mafia

You can‘t prove you‘re town so you have to resort to discrediting.

I'm not trying to prove that you are scum because as I've said in every single reads post I've made, I don't think that it's likely. I'm demonstrating that your approach to the game has been consistently wrong. A town who consistently mislynches towns and starts wagons on towns is just being a bad town player. My defense against your accusations is that accusations coming from someone who has consistently been wrong shouldn't hold water. So, in essence, yes, I am discrediting you.

I don't have a role claim to hide behind to prove I am town. If VTs could just prove without a shadow of a doubt that they are town, then there wouldn't be much of a point to this game, would it?

I pointed out that my vote on Oats never wavered while many others' did. But, that doesn't prove I'm town. It's just one piece of information in a bigger picture. Another would be that I've been scumreading TTS from the start. But, again, that doesn't prove I'm town. I could point out that if CopCake gets lynched and flips scum, then I'll have essentially bussed three of my supposed teammates, while you tunneled on town!VE. But CopCake didn't get lynched, VE did, and it doesn't look like CopCake is getting lynched today either, so I don't have proof there either.

No matter how you slice it, besides you getting a role PM and then claiming it on D1, your actions would look objectively worse than mine (not saying that claiming D1 was a great move either). But because you put yourself in this position of being practically confirmed town, you think that makes you above reproach. It doesn't.

In short, OMGUS.

Ah yes. More wall of texts talking to confirmed town.
Just what we needed.
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 13 2024 15:50 GMT
#7629
Jealous just read palmar now. That's what I want.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 15:50 GMT
#7630
I should reread the Oats lynch. We lynched him over Town!VE. Why?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 15:51 GMT
#7631
But not now. I am tired.
Should have worked more instead of playing mafia.
Oh well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10146 Posts
March 13 2024 15:52 GMT
#7632
On March 14 2024 00:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 00:46 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:33 Vivax wrote:
You put special emphasis on how I voted Ve when you were on Oats but you had no intention of calling me mafia

You can‘t prove you‘re town so you have to resort to discrediting.

I'm not trying to prove that you are scum because as I've said in every single reads post I've made, I don't think that it's likely. I'm demonstrating that your approach to the game has been consistently wrong. A town who consistently mislynches towns and starts wagons on towns is just being a bad town player. My defense against your accusations is that accusations coming from someone who has consistently been wrong shouldn't hold water. So, in essence, yes, I am discrediting you.

I don't have a role claim to hide behind to prove I am town. If VTs could just prove without a shadow of a doubt that they are town, then there wouldn't be much of a point to this game, would it?

I pointed out that my vote on Oats never wavered while many others' did. But, that doesn't prove I'm town. It's just one piece of information in a bigger picture. Another would be that I've been scumreading TTS from the start. But, again, that doesn't prove I'm town. I could point out that if CopCake gets lynched and flips scum, then I'll have essentially bussed three of my supposed teammates, while you tunneled on town!VE. But CopCake didn't get lynched, VE did, and it doesn't look like CopCake is getting lynched today either, so I don't have proof there either.

No matter how you slice it, besides you getting a role PM and then claiming it on D1, your actions would look objectively worse than mine (not saying that claiming D1 was a great move either). But because you put yourself in this position of being practically confirmed town, you think that makes you above reproach. It doesn't.

In short, OMGUS.

Ah yes. More wall of texts talking to confirmed town.
Just what we needed.

Talking to confirmed town that is going to drive yet another mislynch wagon with their tunnel vision, yes. But you're right, I said I'm done talking to Vivax because it's clear he is dug in and will never change his mind, so I'm just wasting my breath by continuing.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 13 2024 15:54 GMT
#7633
On March 14 2024 00:52 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 00:48 Koshi wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:46 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:33 Vivax wrote:
You put special emphasis on how I voted Ve when you were on Oats but you had no intention of calling me mafia

You can‘t prove you‘re town so you have to resort to discrediting.

I'm not trying to prove that you are scum because as I've said in every single reads post I've made, I don't think that it's likely. I'm demonstrating that your approach to the game has been consistently wrong. A town who consistently mislynches towns and starts wagons on towns is just being a bad town player. My defense against your accusations is that accusations coming from someone who has consistently been wrong shouldn't hold water. So, in essence, yes, I am discrediting you.

I don't have a role claim to hide behind to prove I am town. If VTs could just prove without a shadow of a doubt that they are town, then there wouldn't be much of a point to this game, would it?

I pointed out that my vote on Oats never wavered while many others' did. But, that doesn't prove I'm town. It's just one piece of information in a bigger picture. Another would be that I've been scumreading TTS from the start. But, again, that doesn't prove I'm town. I could point out that if CopCake gets lynched and flips scum, then I'll have essentially bussed three of my supposed teammates, while you tunneled on town!VE. But CopCake didn't get lynched, VE did, and it doesn't look like CopCake is getting lynched today either, so I don't have proof there either.

No matter how you slice it, besides you getting a role PM and then claiming it on D1, your actions would look objectively worse than mine (not saying that claiming D1 was a great move either). But because you put yourself in this position of being practically confirmed town, you think that makes you above reproach. It doesn't.

In short, OMGUS.

Ah yes. More wall of texts talking to confirmed town.
Just what we needed.

Talking to confirmed town that is going to drive yet another mislynch wagon with their tunnel vision, yes. But you're right, I said I'm done talking to Vivax because it's clear he is dug in and will never change his mind, so I'm just wasting my breath by continuing.

How you know mislynch. Why not just go read palmar?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 15:56 GMT
#7634
On March 06 2024 12:26 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 12:24 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Scummy for copcake to come in here and shit on the lynch without being here


Scummy?

I spent part of the day yesterday explaining why Tfrel is a good player and why I knight deffended him.

You should know that, you were here yesterday asking me for the vivax thing.

So bad, you are not worth to playing with me.

I will be an ass like most of you and only care for what rayn,slam and marv have to say.

And VE.

And maybe jacob because he is funny.

So live in your “we might jailkeeper mayor, happa mafia gave up because of thay hur hur” illusion.

Rayn, Slam, Marv, VE and Jacob.

What a list.


I am so good at finding town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 13 2024 15:58 GMT
#7635
Rels did something good by voting copcake and it was to give Jealous the comfort zone to attempt to park there again and not look elsewhere for the rest of the day.

It‘s like Jealous thought it was over the moment he finished his convo with him.

That‘s when you pull up and drag him out of the bed he made.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10146 Posts
March 13 2024 16:01 GMT
#7636
On March 14 2024 00:47 Koshi wrote:
Jealous, dmb, JAT and Palmar just need to talk about Jealous, dmb, JAT and Palmar.

DP and CC need to stfu.

MZ will do fine because he is one of the few still doing the work.

Rels is the town hero that currently is addicted to hookers & cocaine but will turn his life around and lead us to victory once again.

I was pretty much locked town on DMB after Oats voted to lynch her in D2 within 13 seconds of Slam posting the Oats reveal (according to Slam).

However, Rels brought up a good point here:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=271#5414

Basically, Oats had been building the DMB case for a long time, so auto-voting DMB doesn't necessarily preclude them from being town. It's WIFOM, but would scum!Oats spend the early game building a case against scum!DMB and then auto-vote them at start of D2? Rels seems to think so. I find it unlikely, but with this case, Rels certainly introduced doubt into the equation. Furthermore, DMB was one of the people that CopCake gave a default TR to after inviting them to that tea party.

Frankly I find it hard to put a finger on DMB's play in general because much like CopCake, I feel like I am either not understanding what they are saying or they aren't making sense a lot of the time, which makes it frustrating to follow their play/logic and form a read on them. So, I've been sticking to my default TR up until now. I do recall some good posts from them, but also some not great ones. I guess I'll bite the bullet and dive DMB after Palmar later today.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 13 2024 16:02 GMT
#7637
I‘ll take a break to recharge the cannons. There‘s more to find I‘m sure
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10146 Posts
March 13 2024 16:02 GMT
#7638
On March 14 2024 00:54 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 00:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:48 Koshi wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:46 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 00:33 Vivax wrote:
You put special emphasis on how I voted Ve when you were on Oats but you had no intention of calling me mafia

You can‘t prove you‘re town so you have to resort to discrediting.

I'm not trying to prove that you are scum because as I've said in every single reads post I've made, I don't think that it's likely. I'm demonstrating that your approach to the game has been consistently wrong. A town who consistently mislynches towns and starts wagons on towns is just being a bad town player. My defense against your accusations is that accusations coming from someone who has consistently been wrong shouldn't hold water. So, in essence, yes, I am discrediting you.

I don't have a role claim to hide behind to prove I am town. If VTs could just prove without a shadow of a doubt that they are town, then there wouldn't be much of a point to this game, would it?

I pointed out that my vote on Oats never wavered while many others' did. But, that doesn't prove I'm town. It's just one piece of information in a bigger picture. Another would be that I've been scumreading TTS from the start. But, again, that doesn't prove I'm town. I could point out that if CopCake gets lynched and flips scum, then I'll have essentially bussed three of my supposed teammates, while you tunneled on town!VE. But CopCake didn't get lynched, VE did, and it doesn't look like CopCake is getting lynched today either, so I don't have proof there either.

No matter how you slice it, besides you getting a role PM and then claiming it on D1, your actions would look objectively worse than mine (not saying that claiming D1 was a great move either). But because you put yourself in this position of being practically confirmed town, you think that makes you above reproach. It doesn't.

In short, OMGUS.

Ah yes. More wall of texts talking to confirmed town.
Just what we needed.

Talking to confirmed town that is going to drive yet another mislynch wagon with their tunnel vision, yes. But you're right, I said I'm done talking to Vivax because it's clear he is dug in and will never change his mind, so I'm just wasting my breath by continuing.

How you know mislynch. Why not just go read palmar?

Because I'm town and lynching town is a mislynch?

Because I'm hopping back and forth from work, when diving filters I'd prefer to do it on a break or after my shift.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 13 2024 16:02 GMT
#7639
On March 14 2024 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Rels did something good by voting copcake and it was to give Jealous the comfort zone to attempt to park there again and not look elsewhere for the rest of the day.

It‘s like Jealous thought it was over the moment he finished his convo with him.

That‘s when you pull up and drag him out of the bed he made.

Mafia had it too easy last couple days and they thought they could get away with things.
JAT with me yesterday concerning Palmar. Same story.
I had a good night of sleep.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10146 Posts
March 13 2024 16:04 GMT
#7640
On March 14 2024 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Rels did something good by voting copcake and it was to give Jealous the comfort zone to attempt to park there again and not look elsewhere for the rest of the day.

It‘s like Jealous thought it was over the moment he finished his convo with him.

That‘s when you pull up and drag him out of the bed he made.

He voted as I was responding to a post, and in the post I wrote, I wrote that I would be voting for CopCake. Without having ever seen his post that indicated he voted for CopCake. I even pointed it out as soon as I saw it happen. Doesn't matter though, you're full tunneled.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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