Newbie Student Mafia XXIX - Page 34

On September 15 2018 04:28 Qatol wrote:
As I mentioned in post #606, I think the mafia are basically on cruise control right now. Anyone who has been reading the thread (or at least who has looked at Meapak's post #450) knows that I am on the scumlist of literally almost everyone. Regardless of what you think about my alignment, this makes me an easy target for scum "contributions." I expected to see scum dogpile on me at some point, probably adding more poorly considered fuel to the fire. As you know, basically everyone in the game has been piling on me with various arguments, some more reasoned than others. That makes it extremely likely that the mafia shows up in there somewhere. However, in day 2, only two people really added new content to the fire: Vivax (which was why I scumread him day 2) and Rels.

In particular, Rels's accusation was as follows:
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In other words, his "contribution" was that it isn't pro-town to look for blues. However, as anyone who looks for mafia by evaluating how nervous they appear would know, a huge part of that is distinguishing blues from reds (because both will act nervous when pressured). Plus, sometimes people just make posts that make you think they have a role. If anything, in the context of a discussion about why Koshi was killed, me revealing that I had a blue read on him is more likely to make me town than mafia. However, when I pointed that out to him, instead of thinking about the argument like you would expect from a townie trying to contribute, he instead mindlessly doubles down and tries to make it a blue hunting competition:
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However, at this point, he has justified his crappy vote.

So at this point, I'm already not loving what he has done, but maybe his other contributions to the thread have something that redeems him?
Day 1, he's trying not to get into arguments with anyone. Instead, his posts are either defenses of Vivax or him talking about various people he thinks are probably townie (sergio, rayn, koshi, and kelsier). As Meapak pointed out in post #349, he isn't taking sides with people who are arguing against each other, which is unusual. Instead, he thinks they're all town.
Night 2, he only discusses modkills and a quick support for rayn.

These look like the type of posts I'm expecting out of mafia. He's doing his very best to avoid any sort of controversy while at the same time not really contributing. Literally the only potentially redeeming things I can find in his filter at all are his defense of Vivax (which doesn't bring him under fire) and him being confused about Koshi flipping blue (but this is a mistake scum could easily make).

I also like Meapak's point from post #349 that Rels lazily jumped on the bandwagon for Kaley, mostly in the spirit of "punishing poor town play." (Only excerpt copied below)
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On September 15 2018 04:56 Sergiovan wrote:
So Qatol which of me/RoL/Prplhz is town?

On September 15 2018 05:07 Qatol wrote:

RoL. He's distracting the thread and trying to divide the vote for no good reason. He's also trying to downplay the urgency to focus votes, despite this being an inactive game involving people in wildly different time zones. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, the "voting" argument on rayn is just wrong and RoL should know better.

On September 15 2018 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can understand your first argument, especially since i do not think you are mafia. But i do not think it makes Rels mafia (your first paragraph).

Second thing, yeah i think his argument is shit, it really is. But i can't really let it go, if i am being really honest you are the one that is arguing that "anyone should have been seeing Koshi was blue" when that is not really how it works. From my perspective, i do not think Koshi hinted blue, not any good player nowadays hints blue so that people can catch it (unless you are blazinghand lol). I do not know why Rels makes that argument, but i also do not know which is worse, him making the argument or "you enforcing it" when you never should in case you are town.

What has Rels done, other than that, that is mafia-esque, other than is related to me (which i find really annoying)? If you wanna call me mafia, call me mafia, but i find a lot of your (and Meapak's) points out to be heavily related towards me. And i don't like people calling other people mafia because "someone else is mafia". Obviously i am not going to lynch myself or want to be lynched myself over Rels because it is LYLO, but please, can you just not make your case founded on something that the person themselves did?

I fully know i dont have any say in if people want to lynch Rels or not since the people who "are listening to me" arent actually listening to me, and well, you have the rest. So i hope you are right then, i just think Kelsier is most likely mafia and i want to lynch him.

On September 15 2018 05:19 Sergiovan wrote:
But I have twenty minutes until I’m AFK so if we are gonna do it we have to do it now. Qatol?

On September 15 2018 05:07 Qatol wrote:

RoL. He's distracting the thread and trying to divide the vote for no good reason. He's also trying to downplay the urgency to focus votes, despite this being an inactive game involving people in wildly different time zones. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, the "voting" argument on rayn is just wrong and RoL should know better.

On September 15 2018 05:34 Qatol wrote:

I just realized I exactly misread your post. I think RoL is mafia (not town). I think the second mafia is Rels. I think the last mafia is one of prplhz, KelsierSC, and you. I'm not going to worry about which one right now, as night kills and future posts can provide more clarity.