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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:23 GMT
#621
On September 15 2018 03:20 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 03:06 Sergiovan wrote:
Qatol: Meapak’s RB claim is total WIFOM. Scum could easily have not sent a RB and claimed it themselves. I think Meapak appears townie but that isn’t a good reason to think so

Notice that my read isn't really based on that. I'm just pointing out that it's an additional thing that would have had to happen for scum!meapak to be true. Let me take this a step further. Think about who the mafia shot last night. Again, rayn spent a decent chunk of the night explaining why vivax was extremely likely town. I think they were worried enough about a potential medic that setting up the claim by meapak wouldn't be worth it. And again, this is just a supporting point to my main argument anyways.

I think you are misrepping a bit here. Probably 70% of the game (my guess since i didnt talk with anyone except for you and meapak) were afk when i was around at nightphase.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:25 GMT
#622
I mean if either of you is not mafia, then killing Vivax doesn't really tell anything (well at least what you are saying).
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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 14 2018 18:29 GMT
#623
On September 15 2018 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Qatol would you, or would you able to make these posts as mafia, on this page?

I doubt it. Mafia!Qatol wouldn't be so eager to call attention to this being mylo. Mafia!Qatol also wouldn't be so worried about not splitting the vote. There simply wouldn't be the same urgency.

If you really want insight into mafia!Qatol, after the one game I was scum, I did a full writeup on the game including my thought process here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/92894-qatols-mafia-vii-experience
Uff Da
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 14 2018 18:34 GMT
#624
On September 15 2018 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You madea case on him... It was good and accurateand he didn't respond towards it like he should if he is town, he just said he will fuck off.

Shameless pocketing,... will I fall for it before going out?

I think I just might.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 14 2018 18:36 GMT
#625
On September 15 2018 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 03:20 Qatol wrote:
On September 15 2018 03:06 Sergiovan wrote:
Qatol: Meapak’s RB claim is total WIFOM. Scum could easily have not sent a RB and claimed it themselves. I think Meapak appears townie but that isn’t a good reason to think so

Notice that my read isn't really based on that. I'm just pointing out that it's an additional thing that would have had to happen for scum!meapak to be true. Let me take this a step further. Think about who the mafia shot last night. Again, rayn spent a decent chunk of the night explaining why vivax was extremely likely town. I think they were worried enough about a potential medic that setting up the claim by meapak wouldn't be worth it. And again, this is just a supporting point to my main argument anyways.

I think you are misrepping a bit here. Probably 70% of the game (my guess since i didnt talk with anyone except for you and meapak) were afk when i was around at nightphase.

I'm not sure what I'm misrepresenting. This actually isn't saying anything about you other than you pointed out that vivax was unlikely to be mafia. I'm not saying it was scummy. I'm not actually even saying it was pro-town. All I'm saying is you made a relatively persuasive argument for vivax being almost confirmed town, and that it's likely that at least some townies would be persuaded by it. That makes vivax both a good target for the mafia night kill but also a good target for a medic. Because he's a good medic target, the mafia are less likely to try and use the roleblock to establish their own credibility.

Again, my main point has to do with how the two of you acted at the beginning of Day 3 not fitting what I would expect from the mafia team.
Uff Da
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:38 GMT
#626
On September 15 2018 03:34 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You madea case on him... It was good and accurateand he didn't respond towards it like he should if he is town, he just said he will fuck off.

Shameless pocketing,... will I fall for it before going out?

I think I just might.

I am just trying to get you put your money where your mouth is.
You can think it as pocketing, idc.

If you do then do something else and be clear of what you do because if you are town we don't have a chance of people voting off wagon.
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Sergiovan
Profile Joined August 2018
90 Posts
September 14 2018 18:38 GMT
#627
I just read through that but I’m not sure how much insight I can give since it was a two family pms allowed game almost a decade ago
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 14 2018 18:39 GMT
#628
On September 15 2018 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
About Kelsier, who are you taking about in this part:
Show nested quote +
That's a pretty fearless statement to make for a townie, going against your reads like that

?

I'm talking about Kelsier. Let me try and say this a different way: I think that only a townie would act in such a fearless manner. I think a mafioso would be much more concerned about being lynched for obviously going against their reads like that.
Uff Da
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 14 2018 18:39 GMT
#629
Will try to phonepost.

KelsierSC or bust.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:41 GMT
#630
On September 15 2018 03:36 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2018 03:20 Qatol wrote:
On September 15 2018 03:06 Sergiovan wrote:
Qatol: Meapak’s RB claim is total WIFOM. Scum could easily have not sent a RB and claimed it themselves. I think Meapak appears townie but that isn’t a good reason to think so

Notice that my read isn't really based on that. I'm just pointing out that it's an additional thing that would have had to happen for scum!meapak to be true. Let me take this a step further. Think about who the mafia shot last night. Again, rayn spent a decent chunk of the night explaining why vivax was extremely likely town. I think they were worried enough about a potential medic that setting up the claim by meapak wouldn't be worth it. And again, this is just a supporting point to my main argument anyways.

I think you are misrepping a bit here. Probably 70% of the game (my guess since i didnt talk with anyone except for you and meapak) were afk when i was around at nightphase.

I'm not sure what I'm misrepresenting. This actually isn't saying anything about you other than you pointed out that vivax was unlikely to be mafia. I'm not saying it was scummy. I'm not actually even saying it was pro-town. All I'm saying is you made a relatively persuasive argument for vivax being almost confirmed town, and that it's likely that at least some townies would be persuaded by it. That makes vivax both a good target for the mafia night kill but also a good target for a medic. Because he's a good medic target, the mafia are less likely to try and use the roleblock to establish their own credibility.

Again, my main point has to do with how the two of you acted at the beginning of Day 3 not fitting what I would expect from the mafia team.

I mean the fact that when i started talking about Vivax being town, from what i remember noone else was in the thread anymore except for you and Meapak. So either it points towards one or two of you, or noone (by default -- i am not saying it does, because it is a crapshot argumet in itself).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:42 GMT
#631
On September 15 2018 03:39 prplhz wrote:
Will try to phonepost.

KelsierSC or bust.

i agree.
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Sergiovan
Profile Joined August 2018
90 Posts
September 14 2018 18:42 GMT
#632
Prplhz! Welcome back to the thread.

Please be aware that if you are town we don’t have the option of splitting our votes. We need to vote as four fifths of a single block and I believe that means that we have to vote Rels with Meapak and Qatol
Sergiovan
Profile Joined August 2018
90 Posts
September 14 2018 18:42 GMT
#633
Jesus christ
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:43 GMT
#634
can someone tell why meapak's case on rels is good?
can everyone who is not on rels or kelsier either vote for those two or argue why their case is better?

pleasE?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:46 GMT
#635
On September 15 2018 03:42 Sergiovan wrote:
Jesus christ

i dont trust your "wow so careless and not scummy" on both Kelsier and prplhz. like you gave me reasons why i should scumread prplhz didn't you? why don't you scumread him yourself for it, and simply write it off because of "wow so careless" or whatever......??????????
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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 14 2018 18:47 GMT
#636
On September 15 2018 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can someone tell why meapak's case on rels is good?
can everyone who is not on rels or kelsier either vote for those two or argue why their case is better?

pleasE?

Give me a sec, I'll explain why I have a scumread on rels. The short version is that he dogpiled on me with a super crappy argument, which is exactly what I expected to see from scum.
Uff Da
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:48 GMT
#637
I know he dogpiled onto you on a super crappy argumetn, but i dont thin that makes him mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:49 GMT
#638
i dont wanna hear it, i wanna hear why Kelsier is not mafia for you.
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Sergiovan
Profile Joined August 2018
90 Posts
September 14 2018 18:53 GMT
#639
I don’t have a town read on Prplhz are you even reading?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 18:54 GMT
#640
On September 15 2018 03:53 Sergiovan wrote:
I don’t have a town read on Prplhz are you even reading?

i did not say you townread him, i asked why you don't scumread him for it?
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