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/in if it doesn't start before Wednesday. I promised rayn I would try hard d1
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On May 25 2018 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wow FF...
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On May 25 2018 09:42 fuba wrote:
Hiya - I'm at work :D
That list hurts, rayn 😭
do you think his list was serious ?
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On May 25 2018 09:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No opinions, only facts.
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On May 25 2018 11:29 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 09:29 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck it this is right
##vote Holyflare
this is so right. Why?
so you think HF is town ?
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On May 25 2018 11:34 Jealous wrote:
lol those pictures are so well done it's fucking impressive
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On May 25 2018 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where was i arguing about the read on you? because i completely missed his read on you in the first place... Oh it sounded like you two were aruging about his read on me lol. CXVNXCVNUIDH SJDASJDCNMC DD
this rage is townie :p
rayn, the pictures are awesome and pretty understandable
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On May 25 2018 20:01 Holyflare wrote:
No he thinks the likeliest option is a bus. Gb made the hierarchy of the orders.
4<1<2<3, so 2 and 3 are most likely, and in both 2 and 3 you're town
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On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:Less euphoric now, reading more carefully. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened? It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that. I'm okay with you being town. I'm no longer okay with you being town. First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought. LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town. @Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true? Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever. We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn. ##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni
Why are you talking about LS being scum in 99% of your post, then voting another dude ?
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On May 25 2018 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rayn's progression is towny. He goes from calling me mafia for shit reasons (that I didn't call out his post...? Hyper aware) to then calling out gb for also calling me mafia but he doesn't actually weigh up on gb's alignment and instead just attacks gb for an argument that is basically the same thing as his (at least he thought it was so why on earth was he initially attacking it?).
Then he votes jealous and gets mad and talks in codes for absolutely no reason. Looks like his pushes flopped and he's just clutching at straws for a reason to do not much imo.
Don't agree. I don't think the first part makes rayn anything. And for the code part, I think it's absolutely possible that rayn get annoyed and "fight back". For example, he got modkilled to prove a point in Resistance V, where he used the exact wording of BH to make a post that got him modkilled, then tried to show how BH was an hypocrit.
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LS I have two questions for you.
On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go. Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though. Anyways just got home now and can talk more not on my phone at least :D
I don't know if I believe you when you say you see his point. Can you explain his point to me ? What post is rayn talking about ?
On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time Uh-huh. Terrible opening. "I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total". :D 2 mafia down boyzz. If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff. If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time. That's where I come from.
In this post, GB is calling HF scum for the reasonning you were gonna arguee with rayn on the post above:
On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though.:D
But when GB does it, you don't seem to react ? Why ?
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On May 25 2018 20:14 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 19:48 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 09:42 fuba wrote:
Hiya - I'm at work :D
That list hurts, rayn 😭 do you think his list was serious ? Definitely XD
why ?
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On May 25 2018 20:16 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:06 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:Less euphoric now, reading more carefully. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened? It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that. I'm okay with you being town. I'm no longer okay with you being town. First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought. LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town. @Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true? On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever. We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn. ##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni Why are you talking about LS being scum in 99% of your post, then voting another dude ? What are your thoughts on his LS reasoning?
not bad, it's true that LS changed his read after rayn did it, then justified it with "fuzzy meta".
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On May 25 2018 20:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:01 Holyflare wrote:
No he thinks the likeliest option is a bus. Gb made the hierarchy of the orders. 4<1<2<3, so 2 and 3 are most likely, and in both 2 and 3 you're town I don't know how maths works
I Will (lol, get it) never hire you then p:
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On May 25 2018 20:45 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and saw that HF went from calling me scum into only a very slight town in a spam of a few minutes? Did get a question: Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:16 Rels wrote:LS I have two questions for you. On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go. Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though. Anyways just got home now and can talk more not on my phone at least :D I don't know if I believe you when you say you see his point. Can you explain his point to me ? What post is rayn talking about ? On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time Uh-huh. Terrible opening. "I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total". :D 2 mafia down boyzz. If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff. If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time. That's where I come from. In this post, GB is calling HF scum for the reasonning you were gonna arguee with rayn on the post above: On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though.:D But when GB does it, you don't seem to react ? Why ? Rayn's point was he thought a town HF would of called out rayn for his post here(assuming correct quote): Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well, we need to lynch ppl in this order:
11. Jealous
9. fuba
6. LightningStrike
2. GlowingBear
4. darthfoley
5. Holyflare
7. Koshi
12. Eversince
3. Grackaroni
10. Rels
newbie is excused ofc. Thus I can see where he coming from because HF didn't touch that post at all but I didn't think he was scum for it. I'll be honest I did miss that quote entirely by GB but I did follow the rest of the fight much closer though >.<
do you think this rayn list post is scummy ?
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On May 25 2018 20:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I will be a bit careful on Rel's as I know he can have a good scum game and did kind of break a town meta of his a while ago regarding his entrance style.
? What meta did I break ?
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On May 25 2018 20:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:55 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:45 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and saw that HF went from calling me scum into only a very slight town in a spam of a few minutes? Did get a question: On May 25 2018 20:16 Rels wrote:LS I have two questions for you. On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go. Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though. Anyways just got home now and can talk more not on my phone at least :D I don't know if I believe you when you say you see his point. Can you explain his point to me ? What post is rayn talking about ? On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time Uh-huh. Terrible opening. "I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total". :D 2 mafia down boyzz. If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff. If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time. That's where I come from. In this post, GB is calling HF scum for the reasonning you were gonna arguee with rayn on the post above: On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though.:D But when GB does it, you don't seem to react ? Why ? Rayn's point was he thought a town HF would of called out rayn for his post here(assuming correct quote): On May 25 2018 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well, we need to lynch ppl in this order:
11. Jealous
9. fuba
6. LightningStrike
2. GlowingBear
4. darthfoley
5. Holyflare
7. Koshi
12. Eversince
3. Grackaroni
10. Rels
newbie is excused ofc. Thus I can see where he coming from because HF didn't touch that post at all but I didn't think he was scum for it. I'll be honest I did miss that quote entirely by GB but I did follow the rest of the fight much closer though >.< do you think this rayn list post is scummy ? I thought it was a joke post tbh that's all.
OK. I think it's a little bit weird. rayn makes this list post. You dismiss it as a joke and you don't comment on it. HF also doesn't comment on it. But when rayn arguees HF wouldn't have missed the post, you agree. IDK, seems too easy.
Furthermore, it's wasn't the post rayn was talking about. GB indicated the post rayn was talking about. Apparently you missed it, even though you've said you followed rayn / GB fight quite closely. And you also missed GB's comment about HF's entrance during that fight.
On May 25 2018 20:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:56 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I will be a bit careful on Rel's as I know he can have a good scum game and did kind of break a town meta of his a while ago regarding his entrance style. ? What meta did I break ? The delayed entrance into doing stuff when we were scum together.
But I didn't have a delayed entrance this game, so I don't see your point ?
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I don't really think you agreeing with rayn makes you anything, I feel it was a little bit too easy but it's true you like to sheep as town.
I don't like the second thing though. You've said you followed the fight closely, but you missed 2 things in it, that were linked to stuff you had commented before:
- you think noone should attack HF for his opening post. GB attacks HF for his opening post. You miss it.
- you understand rayn's post about HF missing a bad post. You think you know what is that bad post. GB says what is the bad post, and rayn confirms it. You miss it.
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On May 25 2018 21:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 21:16 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:59 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 20:55 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:45 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and saw that HF went from calling me scum into only a very slight town in a spam of a few minutes? Did get a question: On May 25 2018 20:16 Rels wrote:LS I have two questions for you. On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go. Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though. Anyways just got home now and can talk more not on my phone at least :D I don't know if I believe you when you say you see his point. Can you explain his point to me ? What post is rayn talking about ? On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time Uh-huh. Terrible opening. "I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total". :D 2 mafia down boyzz. If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff. If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time. That's where I come from. In this post, GB is calling HF scum for the reasonning you were gonna arguee with rayn on the post above: On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though.:D But when GB does it, you don't seem to react ? Why ? Rayn's point was he thought a town HF would of called out rayn for his post here(assuming correct quote): On May 25 2018 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well, we need to lynch ppl in this order:
11. Jealous
9. fuba
6. LightningStrike
2. GlowingBear
4. darthfoley
5. Holyflare
7. Koshi
12. Eversince
3. Grackaroni
10. Rels
newbie is excused ofc. Thus I can see where he coming from because HF didn't touch that post at all but I didn't think he was scum for it. I'll be honest I did miss that quote entirely by GB but I did follow the rest of the fight much closer though >.< do you think this rayn list post is scummy ? I thought it was a joke post tbh that's all. OK. I think it's a little bit weird. rayn makes this list post. You dismiss it as a joke and you don't comment on it. HF also doesn't comment on it. But when rayn arguees HF wouldn't have missed the post, you agree. IDK, seems too easy. Furthermore, it's wasn't the post rayn was talking about. GB indicated the post rayn was talking about. Apparently you missed it, even though you've said you followed rayn / GB fight quite closely. And you also missed GB's comment about HF's entrance during that fight. On May 25 2018 20:59 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 20:56 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I will be a bit careful on Rel's as I know he can have a good scum game and did kind of break a town meta of his a while ago regarding his entrance style. ? What meta did I break ? The delayed entrance into doing stuff when we were scum together. But I didn't have a delayed entrance this game, so I don't see your point ? I didn't agree on it??? I just said I can see where rayn was coming from >.<. I just noting to be careful with you and yes it was a bit delayed as waited till I went to sleep when you posted which is about roughly how long it takes for you to enter a game no a days from my memory..
OK I can see that.
Game started while I was sleeping, so no. It's usual D1 that I wait for the last 24 hours to post, 'cause it's not fun for me playing when there is very little info. That's not the case this game, in big part 'cause I promised rayn to actually play D1.
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On May 25 2018 21:38 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 21:25 Rels wrote:
I don't really think you agreeing with rayn makes you anything, I feel it was a little bit too easy but it's true you like to sheep as town.
I don't like the second thing though. You've said you followed the fight closely, but you missed 2 things in it, that were linked to stuff you had commented before:
- you think noone should attack HF for his opening post. GB attacks HF for his opening post. You miss it.
- you understand rayn's post about HF missing a bad post. You think you know what is that bad post. GB says what is the bad post, and rayn confirms it. You miss it. Again I did miss that post you showed about gb's comment on rayn's thing on hf but I followed the fight pretty good just didn't see that post in particular >.<
Yeah that's my point, you missed 2 posts in a fight you said you've closely followed. p:
On May 25 2018 21:38 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 21:27 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 21:25 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 21:16 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:59 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 20:55 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:45 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and saw that HF went from calling me scum into only a very slight town in a spam of a few minutes? Did get a question: On May 25 2018 20:16 Rels wrote:LS I have two questions for you. On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go. Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though. Anyways just got home now and can talk more not on my phone at least :D I don't know if I believe you when you say you see his point. Can you explain his point to me ? What post is rayn talking about ? On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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"I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total".
:D
2 mafia down boyzz. If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff. If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time. That's where I come from. In this post, GB is calling HF scum for the reasonning you were gonna arguee with rayn on the post above: On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though.:D But when GB does it, you don't seem to react ? Why ? Rayn's point was he thought a town HF would of called out rayn for his post here(assuming correct quote): On May 25 2018 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well, we need to lynch ppl in this order:
11. Jealous
9. fuba
6. LightningStrike
2. GlowingBear
4. darthfoley
5. Holyflare
7. Koshi
12. Eversince
3. Grackaroni
10. Rels
newbie is excused ofc. Thus I can see where he coming from because HF didn't touch that post at all but I didn't think he was scum for it. I'll be honest I did miss that quote entirely by GB but I did follow the rest of the fight much closer though >.< do you think this rayn list post is scummy ? I thought it was a joke post tbh that's all. OK. I think it's a little bit weird. rayn makes this list post. You dismiss it as a joke and you don't comment on it. HF also doesn't comment on it. But when rayn arguees HF wouldn't have missed the post, you agree. IDK, seems too easy. Furthermore, it's wasn't the post rayn was talking about. GB indicated the post rayn was talking about. Apparently you missed it, even though you've said you followed rayn / GB fight quite closely. And you also missed GB's comment about HF's entrance during that fight. On May 25 2018 20:59 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 20:56 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I will be a bit careful on Rel's as I know he can have a good scum game and did kind of break a town meta of his a while ago regarding his entrance style. ? What meta did I break ? The delayed entrance into doing stuff when we were scum together. But I didn't have a delayed entrance this game, so I don't see your point ? I didn't agree on it??? I just said I can see where rayn was coming from >.<. I just noting to be careful with you and yes it was a bit delayed as waited till I went to sleep when you posted which is about roughly how long it takes for you to enter a game no a days from my memory.. OK I can see that. Game started while I was sleeping, so no. It's usual D1 that I wait for the last 24 hours to post, 'cause it's not fun for me playing when there is very little info. That's not the case this game, in big part 'cause I promised rayn to actually play D1. Fair enough anything else you want to talk about?
nope p: and you ?
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On May 25 2018 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:03 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2018 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where was i arguing about the read on you? because i completely missed his read on you in the first place... Oh it sounded like you two were aruging about his read on me lol. CXVNXCVNUIDH SJDASJDCNMC DD this rage is townie :p rayn, the pictures are awesome and pretty understandable That is not the problem. The problem is i can't tell reasoning or even how strongly he feels about the stuff he comments on. You can never add that to pictures and it is a crucial element of this game. His posts basically are "this happened and i think it means X". It doesnt really say anything.
I see your point, but his pictures are just too funny. Just treat it as Chezinu roleplaying or something like that.
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On May 25 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
I dont believe Rels attacks obvious town GB for talki g about LS but vote grack. But then when asled about the post says the GB logic was "not bad".
Rels is pretending to do things.
Mafia pretends to do things.
Rels is mafia.
I thought it's weird he voted Grack in that post, and I thought the LS logic was not bad, at the same time. That's it.
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On May 25 2018 22:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rayn's progression is towny. He goes from calling me mafia for shit reasons (that I didn't call out his post...? Hyper aware) to then calling out gb for also calling me mafia but he doesn't actually weigh up on gb's alignment and instead just attacks gb for an argument that is basically the same thing as his (at least he thought it was so why on earth was he initially attacking it?).
Then he votes jealous and gets mad and talks in codes for absolutely no reason. Looks like his pushes flopped and he's just clutching at straws for a reason to do not much imo.
Don't agree. I don't think the first part makes rayn anything. And for the code part, I think it's absolutely possible that rayn get annoyed and "fight back". For example, he got modkilled to prove a point in Resistance V, where he used the exact wording of BH to make a post that got him modkilled, then tried to show how BH was an hypocrit. The first part is definitely mafia perspective because he doesn't care about answers he's just spamming up shit basically. He THINKS gb said the same thing as him so why on earth did he pick on it in the first place?
I think he thought GB was parrotting him while pretending not to be. Don't have time to check before tonight though.
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On May 25 2018 22:58 byj wrote:
Hiya! So am I right to assume we all have no night actions and have to find Mafia through talking/ voting patterns? I voted No Lynch in case I forget, but I don't trust any of you enough to follow on a lynch~
Hello! Is this your first game?
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On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now.
I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything.
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On May 26 2018 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:03 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2018 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where was i arguing about the read on you? because i completely missed his read on you in the first place... Oh it sounded like you two were aruging about his read on me lol. CXVNXCVNUIDH SJDASJDCNMC DD this rage is townie :p rayn, the pictures are awesome and pretty understandable Why is that townie? It looks forced to me.
It just fits with how rayn works, feeling like another player is not playing the game fairly, and threatening the ruin the game if he doesn't stop
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rayn talk to me when you're there
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On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke u Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now. I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything. Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.<
I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game.
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On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am here.
good.
Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything.
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On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke u On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now. I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything. Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.< I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game. Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game.
yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again.
I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town.
But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything.
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On May 26 2018 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there I am here. good. Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything. Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home. But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm.
k. I think Jealous' stubborness makes him likely town actually. I don't think scum would angry the town for no gain. It's not like he's hiding behind his drawings to not say anything.
Will wait for the HF stuff
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On May 26 2018 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke u On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now. I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything. Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.< I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game. Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game. yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again. I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town. But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything. Only with the right partner(s) I could break my own meta. https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Arya321&page=7That part of my filter will help I think you to give you a better clue.
I don't think you making some posts about "I would like for more player to enter the game" is you breaking meta though.
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On May 26 2018 22:55 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 22:42 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there I am here. good. Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything. Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home. But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm. k. I think Jealous' stubborness makes him likely town actually. I don't think scum would angry the town for no gain. It's not like he's hiding behind his drawings to not say anything. Will wait for the HF stuff I disagree with this for two reasons: 1) Jealous probably decided to play like this pre-game. 2) I don't think he's actually angering many people since his pictures actually do give reads and some idea of the reasons behind them.
Point 2 is what I'm saying above, that he's not hiding behind it to not play.
Point 1 is right though.
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On May 26 2018 23:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 23:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke u On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now. I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything. Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.< I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game. Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game. yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again. I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town. But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything. this literally says 0 words it's so many words to say absolutely nothing You've: A) Said nothing that makes LS town or mafia? B) Didn't call LS mafia. C) Explained why you didn't call him mafia. D) Said you're not mafia reading him for meta. E) Said you'd vote him if you had to.
Read in context. This whole conversation is about GB saying LS might be town for saying something, me not agreeing, and LS thinking I was saying another thing.
I think LS is scum because he's posting a lot and (1) not saying anything meaningful (2) most importantly, not paying attention to things he should. In particular, he said he followed a part of the thread very closely. This part of the thread is not very long, but he managed to miss two things in it that he shouldn't have, especially because they were linked to thinkgs he himself had done earlier.
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On May 26 2018 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
I'll be honest Rels I don't give a fuck about your read on me right now but we need to work together. I thinking maybe 1-2 active scum with 1 afk scum because honestly town is a mess. Maybe I might be wrong on rayn but I doubt it. I know HF could do all that stuff as scum which is why i reserving my judgement on him. Do you think HF is town or scum atm Rels? Knowing his alignment might be the key here.
I have no idea what alignement HF is.
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On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null
This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.
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On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post.
what did you think of that post ?
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I'm not convinced by this HF case. I've always found the first part very flimsy - HF not reacting to a bait post. Then I don't think the following is true - HF was super laid back too a few games ago where I was convinced he was scum and got him lynched.
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I think DF is the best lynch.
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On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:why?
1:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.
2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.
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On May 27 2018 03:17 darthfoley wrote:
If I were mafia I probably would've just pulled a Rels and came into the thread an hour or two before EoD.
that's what I feel like you did TBH p: only 6 hours instead of 1-2
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On May 27 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch. why? 1: On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. 2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more. why is grack's post any different?
dunno, it felt OK when I read it. It made sense for the posts Grack did earlier. It didn't feel like a list post he fabricated to enter the thread, like DF was
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reworded so it makes sense: the list post Grack made was logical with his earlier posts
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On May 27 2018 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels can you contribute a bit more on the strength of your df read? How sure are you of it?
dunno, let's say 6/10. Not very sure, but it's the first thing I've felt good about this game.
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byj did you read the OP before starting to play ?
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On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 03:23 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch. why? 1: On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. 2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more. why is grack's post any different? dunno, it felt OK when I read it. It made sense for the posts Grack did earlier. It didn't feel like a list post he fabricated to enter the thread, like DF was We all played enough games to know that congruency is not a particular town trait. Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad?
I don't think it makes him town or anything. HF was asking me about the difference between DF's list post and Grack's list post. Well, the difference is that DF's list post is his first serious post and seems forced, while Grack's list post isn't.
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On May 27 2018 03:50 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 03:46 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:On May 27 2018 03:23 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch. why? 1: On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. 2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more. why is grack's post any different? dunno, it felt OK when I read it. It made sense for the posts Grack did earlier. It didn't feel like a list post he fabricated to enter the thread, like DF was We all played enough games to know that congruency is not a particular town trait. Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad? I don't think it makes him town or anything. HF was asking me about the difference between DF's list post and Grack's list post. Well, the difference is that DF's list post is his first serious post and seems forced, while Grack's list post isn't. Okay, but what's your read on Grack, then? Why isn't he a good lynch today? Do you think I'm town? Do you think Holyflare is town?
I have no read on Grack.
You're my strongest townread.
HF was null until now, he could have easily gona into a shouting match with rayn and didn't, instead it looks like he genuinely found something on Grack. I'm waiting to see him deliver on that.
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On May 27 2018 03:55 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 03:33 Rels wrote:
byj did you read the OP before starting to play ? Yes. What do you mean?
Why did you ask these questions in your entry post if you read the OP ? The answers are in it. And the OP also specifies that we can't no-lynch.
On May 25 2018 22:58 byj wrote:
Hiya! So am I right to assume we all have no night actions and have to find Mafia through talking/ voting patterns? I voted No Lynch in case I forget, but I don't trust any of you enough to follow on a lynch~
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On May 27 2018 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
doctor can't even gain a mislynch...
lol yeah. That makes no sense to have a 1-shot doc if he can't gain a ML
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On May 27 2018 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 21:52 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2018 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 10:58 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go. I kinda agree. We can start lynching rayn and holyflare. We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play. LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town. Grackaroni NAI opening. darthfoley NAI opening. Hey it been a long time since I played with you how it been? Also side note for myself this fight is a bit forced? HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LS! Rayn is forcing it. I'm just having fun Imo town. Small sentence. But I can see gb believe rayn is forcing it and I can believe gb is enjoying him here. Both as town gb. Mafia gb going head on vs town rayn posting this sentence is brave play. So I will run with town gb for now. Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 04:44 Koshi wrote:
I would agree more with you if GB didnt went head on against rayn. If one is trying to play buddy buddy as mafia, one does not clynch with rayn and lick on LS. As mafia you more likely do the opposite. Both of the red parts are based on the assumption that i am town, otherwise it doesn't make any sense, but then:; Show nested quote +rayn dnu. Going to let him play. I didnt like 1 thing though. Forgot what it was. Something he attacked somebody for that was dumb on his part. So one of the reasons GB is town is because mafia!GB doesn't go after town!rayn (which is also bs btw) but then he doesn't know if i am town or mafia (so why can't like.. we both be mafia for example??). And this was not an off-hand comment, he even said it TWICE.
That's a very good point
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On May 27 2018 04:43 LightningStrike wrote:
HF and rayn had a bit of shit fight which I think both of them looked townie in their fight. Rel's is calling for df's head but I don't think I saw a case on him by rels? Also that vote count looks a bit nasty we should start condensing the votes to 1-2 people.
On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch. why? 1: Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. 2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.
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still think DF is the best lynch. He made a few posts after people called out his bad post, then left when he saw he wasn't in danger.
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Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy
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I don't think GB is scum. I hate this EOD though. Team is probably something like DF / dyl / fuba, and just letting the lynch happen
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On May 27 2018 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Shenannies on fuba
I could do that
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On May 27 2018 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 07:55 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Shenannies on fuba I could do that NOW
if we have a third, why not. Would prefer DF though
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nice
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that vote swap was beautiful lol. WP HF
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it's also Vanilla in the OP, only colored as red for scum
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On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post.
Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ...
You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not.
If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous.
But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do.
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On May 27 2018 23:46 fuba wrote:Yeah, sorry g even after I didn't want to vote you I had nowhere else to go 😢
Why didn't you switch to anyone else ? Can you describe what you thought about the other options at the time ? Cause I think you had a post saying "meh Koshi is kinda townie actually" towards EOD, but you didn't switch to Jealous, DF or whoever GB wanted to switch to ... OK that was you I think p:
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On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:
LS:
Him trying to lead off/ defend Jealous seems suspicious to me, but I don't think Mafia would take such a gamble
What did he do that you think was too ballsy for scum ?
On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:
Koshi:
Doesn't exactly seem the most innocent to me, but I don't trust the lynch on him, so going with Town for now
I don't understand. "he's scummy, but the votes point at him being town" => is that what you're saying ?
On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:Rels: Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 07:56 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:On May 27 2018 07:55 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Shenannies on fuba I could do that NOW if we have a third, why not. Would prefer DF though Makes me think that he might be in cahoots with fuba
So my alignment is entirely depending on fuba's ?
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On May 28 2018 02:23 Grackaroni wrote:I dislike that Rels refers to the Jealous lynch as just a coin flip when his assumption was that the scum team would be a team of lurkers. Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 07:17 Rels wrote:
Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 07:54 Rels wrote:
I don't think GB is scum. I hate this EOD though. Team is probably something like DF / dyl / fuba, and just letting the lynch happen
even if Jealous was AFK, I would have expected his partners to distract the lynch if he was scum. The push against Jealous was a policy wagon, it didn't seem strong. That EOD with small wagons and low activity was very weird. You don't see what I'm talking about ?
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On May 28 2018 02:28 Grackaroni wrote:I think he meant you
yeah sorry p:
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On May 28 2018 06:34 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Didnt like byj disppearing after rels had a question to him. All he "questioned" was how much I read the rules 
Still waiting for an answer on the follow-up:
On May 27 2018 04:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 03:55 byj wrote:On May 27 2018 03:33 Rels wrote:
byj did you read the OP before starting to play ? Yes. What do you mean? Why did you ask these questions in your entry post if you read the OP ? The answers are in it. And the OP also specifies that we can't no-lynch. Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 22:58 byj wrote:
Hiya! So am I right to assume we all have no night actions and have to find Mafia through talking/ voting patterns? I voted No Lynch in case I forget, but I don't trust any of you enough to follow on a lynch~
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On May 28 2018 07:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi's alignment is key to understand this votecount. Everyone needs to take a stance on whether he is mafia or town to proceed with the game. If Koshi is mafia, Rels might be mafia. If Koshi is town, then his wagon contains at least one mafia.
this. Minus the "Rels might be mafia" part p:
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On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.
First, I'm rarely confident D1 (and when I am I'm wrong p: ). I hate playing it.
Second, I was ready to switch on Koshi if it came down to it. And I almost had my lynch, if HF didn't play weird mindgames.
On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind.
I disagree, unless you think the team is exactly DF / HF. He had the perfect excuse to lynch DF over Jealous. Mechanically speaking what he did made no sense if he's scum.
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On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.<
Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now.
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On May 28 2018 09:07 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1
If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.
Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.
LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.
I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind. I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase: On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, Koshi didn't even continue playing He said he would play if he thinks rels starts playing like town which means he didn't. True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered. BUT Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise. There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor. LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone. Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that? I thought town Koshi at the time would actually push for his target like he did the last game I did with him here: https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=KoshiBut I don't think he's a big enough idiot to kill rayn over HF i nthis scenerio with rayn pushign for his lynch as it would put himself to much in the spot light.
That makes no sense. You townreading Koshi for that kill is the proof that it doesn't work that way. NK analysis CAN be useful sometimes, but not when applied this simply.
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On May 28 2018 19:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 07:17 Rels wrote:
Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy Rels why did you stay on DF?
Cause he was the only one I thought had a good chance to flip scum. I would have switched to you before deadline though if I had to choose between you and Jealous.
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On May 28 2018 19:50 Koshi wrote:
Yeah.. what can I say. I am undecided on df atm.
Why isn't he almost conf town from your POV ... ? He could have lynched you but didn't.
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On May 28 2018 19:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 22:11 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2018 20:21 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:16 fuba wrote:On May 25 2018 20:06 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:Less euphoric now, reading more carefully. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened? It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that. I'm okay with you being town. I'm no longer okay with you being town. First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought. LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town. @Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true? On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever. We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn. ##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni Why are you talking about LS being scum in 99% of your post, then voting another dude ? What are your thoughts on his LS reasoning? not bad, it's true that LS changed his read after rayn did it, then justified it with "fuzzy meta". ##Vote RelsRels openings are legendary bad but this cant go unpunished. GB or Rels. Can you explain again what happened here with LS and why you think that makes him mafia?
I thought LS was scummy at that point 'cause he claimed to have closely followed a particular portion of the thread (the GB vs rayn fight, I think max 20 posts), but missed two things in it, that he should have picked up 'cause it was related to things he had commented before.
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On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.
well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?
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On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now. I actually did pm them because they didn't post the day post until after I pm'd -.- Out of all the things in that post you worried more about that part???????
I just find it weird that's all. I don't know if it's AI.
On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:30 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 09:07 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1
If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.
Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.
LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.
I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind. I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase: On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, Koshi didn't even continue playing He said he would play if he thinks rels starts playing like town which means he didn't. True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered. BUT Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise. There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor. LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone. Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that? I thought town Koshi at the time would actually push for his target like he did the last game I did with him here: https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=KoshiBut I don't think he's a big enough idiot to kill rayn over HF i nthis scenerio with rayn pushign for his lynch as it would put himself to much in the spot light. That makes no sense. You townreading Koshi for that kill is the proof that it doesn't work that way. NK analysis CAN be useful sometimes, but not when applied this simply. Not just the night kill but some of his posts in the night phase made me doubt my scumread on him and the night kill as well. Just my interpenetration of it.
In the bolded, and several other posts, you only talk about the NK. What other posts changed your mind ?
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'cause I don't agree. Koshi's posts didn't convince me. When he's town he gets very excited about something and it shows. The only time it happened this game was in his first spree of posts D1. Koshi not knowing what to do about DF when DF had the opportunity to hammer him is also weird.
What I'm saying is: KILL KOSHI. If he's town it should become obvious.
##Vote Koshi
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This is the only post from town Koshi, finding a thing that makes him react:
On May 25 2018 22:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 15:48 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:Less euphoric now, reading more carefully. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened? It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that. I'm okay with you being town. I'm no longer okay with you being town. First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought. LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town. @Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true? On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever. We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn. ##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni This is like 90% why ls isn't town and 5% on grack yet you vote the off hand comment instead. Baaaaad gb. Hahahahaha. Oh boi. And the vote after. Hahahaha. This is better than browsing 9gag
But not appearing for the rest of the game. Especially apparent when he discovers he wasn't lynched:
On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:Night 1
Jealous was lynched. He was a Vanilla.
It is now Night 1, which lasts 24 hours.
Night 1 ends on Sunday, May 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
Please submit night actions to both hosts at least 10 minutes before deadline. This must be a joke.
On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:
How the fuck did mafia fail to lynch me ?
On May 27 2018 18:58 Koshi wrote:
Going to assume grack is town due to the vote.. Even though bussing is vrilliant with no blues. So I wont consider it too hard.
rayn and hf are fine because my reads.
GB still top town.
I forgot my reads on others but I will reread my filter tomorrow and then build on that with the new content.
Rels is mafia or plays very mafialike. Dont understand why he didnt vote me though and asks abiut a df lynch. I guess the Jealous lynch was never set in stone.
Too many people could have voted me and didnt. Maybe they were afraid to show face near EoD? I dont know. Weird.
On May 27 2018 19:05 Koshi wrote:
Mufasa was voting me. Sad days.
On May 27 2018 19:07 Koshi wrote:
Rels & Mufasa if I had to pick 2 atm.
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BTW why did you post if you didn't know you weren't lynched ?
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On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.
So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ?
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On May 29 2018 04:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:49 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now. I actually did pm them because they didn't post the day post until after I pm'd -.- Out of all the things in that post you worried more about that part??????? I just find it weird that's all. I don't know if it's AI. On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:30 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 09:07 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1
If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.
Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.
LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.
I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind. I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase: On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, Koshi didn't even continue playing He said he would play if he thinks rels starts playing like town which means he didn't. True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered. BUT Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise. There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor. LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone. Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that? I thought town Koshi at the time would actually push for his target like he did the last game I did with him here: https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=KoshiBut I don't think he's a big enough idiot to kill rayn over HF i nthis scenerio with rayn pushign for his lynch as it would put himself to much in the spot light. That makes no sense. You townreading Koshi for that kill is the proof that it doesn't work that way. NK analysis CAN be useful sometimes, but not when applied this simply. Not just the night kill but some of his posts in the night phase made me doubt my scumread on him and the night kill as well. Just my interpenetration of it. In the bolded, and several other posts, you only talk about the NK. What other posts changed your mind ? Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 18:42 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I really dislike how this wagon on Koshi was formed.
HF is attacking rayn throughout the entire game
Never votes rayn.
Rayn posts an "outdated" read on Koshi (come on, everybody read those posts and it was also object for discussion)
HF, without reevaluating Rayn, decides he is right and votes for Koshi
Then people pile up for absolute no reason. Fuba decided OH THAT WAS A GOOD CASE, LS brings a very flimsy reason to vote Koshi which I heavily dislike (and makes me lean scum on him).
This wagon doesn't sound right at all.
Dont forget df and Rels also made a +1 post. I like you gb. I like you. Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:Night 1
Jealous was lynched. He was a Vanilla.
It is now Night 1, which lasts 24 hours.
Night 1 ends on Sunday, May 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
Please submit night actions to both hosts at least 10 minutes before deadline. This must be a joke. I might be reading to much into it but his reaction when he noticed that jealous was lynched instead of him that he seemed genuinely surprised. The first does show a bit more effort trying to get other people to notice stuff to.
I disagree completely. I think his reaction was way below what he would do as town. And it's not true he was surprised at not being lynched, since he was posting, so he knew he wasn't dead.
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On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia.
Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ?
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On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially.
mm. Statistically, maybe. But over such a low number of players, it's a gamble to use statistics to decide if the scums are AFK.
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On May 29 2018 04:28 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:16 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:13 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:49 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now. I actually did pm them because they didn't post the day post until after I pm'd -.- Out of all the things in that post you worried more about that part??????? I just find it weird that's all. I don't know if it's AI. On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:30 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 09:07 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1
If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.
Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.
LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.
I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind. I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase: On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:
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True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered.
BUT
Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise. There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor. LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone. Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that? I thought town Koshi at the time would actually push for his target like he did the last game I did with him here: https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=KoshiBut I don't think he's a big enough idiot to kill rayn over HF i nthis scenerio with rayn pushign for his lynch as it would put himself to much in the spot light. That makes no sense. You townreading Koshi for that kill is the proof that it doesn't work that way. NK analysis CAN be useful sometimes, but not when applied this simply. Not just the night kill but some of his posts in the night phase made me doubt my scumread on him and the night kill as well. Just my interpenetration of it. In the bolded, and several other posts, you only talk about the NK. What other posts changed your mind ? On May 27 2018 18:42 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I really dislike how this wagon on Koshi was formed.
HF is attacking rayn throughout the entire game
Never votes rayn.
Rayn posts an "outdated" read on Koshi (come on, everybody read those posts and it was also object for discussion)
HF, without reevaluating Rayn, decides he is right and votes for Koshi
Then people pile up for absolute no reason. Fuba decided OH THAT WAS A GOOD CASE, LS brings a very flimsy reason to vote Koshi which I heavily dislike (and makes me lean scum on him).
This wagon doesn't sound right at all.
Dont forget df and Rels also made a +1 post. I like you gb. I like you. On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:Night 1
Jealous was lynched. He was a Vanilla.
It is now Night 1, which lasts 24 hours.
Night 1 ends on Sunday, May 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
Please submit night actions to both hosts at least 10 minutes before deadline. This must be a joke. On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:
How the fuck did mafia fail to lynch me ? I might be reading to much into it but his reaction when he noticed that jealous was lynched instead of him that he seemed genuinely surprised. The first does show a bit more effort trying to get other people to notice stuff to. I disagree completely. I think his reaction was way below what he would do as town. And it's not true he was surprised at not being lynched, since he was posting, so he knew he wasn't dead. To each of their own I guess. Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:22 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. mm. Statistically, maybe. But over such a low number of players, it's a gamble to use statistics to decide if the scums are AFK. True but my guts thinks otherwise.
fair enough.
Who do you think is scum then ?
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On May 29 2018 04:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post. Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ... You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not. If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous. But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do. I think I did everything you just described here. On top of playing the game pretty transparant. My pool is LS, df, fuba, you and the new guy. I am not sure if DF is not mafia for what you say. But you and DF did tumble somewhat town for activity near EoD.
cool. Can you now convince me you're town and that whoever you're voting for is mafia
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On May 29 2018 04:56 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now. I actually think it comes off as too dumb to be a real dumb tell. Seems forced like his fake rage in Millionaire Time to get the revenge we've been waiting for for three years Rels.
lol
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On May 29 2018 04:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:57 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:49 Koshi wrote:On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post. Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ... You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not. If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous. But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do. I think I did everything you just described here. On top of playing the game pretty transparant. My pool is LS, df, fuba, you and the new guy. I am not sure if DF is not mafia for what you say. But you and DF did tumble somewhat town for activity near EoD. cool. Can you now convince me you're town and that whoever you're voting for is mafia meh. because I don't see clear mafia signs on actives I am voting off people who hide their alignment the most.
I assume you know fuba well 'cause you know him by another handle ? Am I right thinking that ? Do you play mafia elsewhere, or is it unrelated ?
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On May 29 2018 05:04 darthfoley wrote:
Rels's recent posts make me think he could be town
I just reread fuba's filter and I see no apparent reason from him to vote Koshi. Koshi is correct that if Koshi is town, fuba's vote looks especially terrible and he might be mafia. Except I just checked and he was the first person on the Koshi wagon. Would scum!fuba start a counter wagon on Koshi, of all people?
Frankly idk why mafia didn't just hammer me considering I was easy lynch bait yesterday and lots of people were okay with me dying (including myself)
fuba cannot be scum if Koshi is scum.
And yeah. Finding what happened exactly EOD1 will be key
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On May 29 2018 05:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? really bad rels it's super obvious if you read the game even a little bit
lol. Quote it then.
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On May 29 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:09 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:06 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? really bad rels it's super obvious if you read the game even a little bit lol. Quote it then. It's before deadline where he says I never voted rayn and used it to try and deflect votes off the koshi wagon etc etc. THat's just one instance. Another is how his reads develop over time with no new critical thinking or development and then just magically change when the situation looks bad for his team mate. Something that massively weighs me in the favour of a GB/Koshi scum team is that GB scum reads rayn/grack ALL OF DAY 1 but then Koshi starts to be a wagon when rayn made his "outdated" case on koshi. Somehow that rayn and grack read magically changes to oh wait they're town now and he votes jealous with them. When I pressure him to explain that read he fobs it off and basically has NO reason that his read changed on them. The only correlation is that Koshi is up for lynch. We then know how the rest of the deadline went down where he basically switches off jealous for absolutely no reason and then criticises you multiple times for not voting jealous(?????). Furthermore, with regards to Koshi. I don't EVER believe he votes LS in this situation. If he has a pool of ls/fuba/df/you etc (which is already a major bs pool of basically people that didn't vote jealous) why would he vote LS? LS could have easily voted df in this situation to save Jealous but did not, Fuba as well. Koshi isn't critically analysing anything that went down at deadline. DF is the key to him solving the game but he refuses to vote there. I am pretty sure it's because it reveals that GB was the counter wagon initiator to save Koshi.
I'll have to check about this 'cause I don't remember him scumreading rayn late in the day. At the beginning, sure. I'll check when and why his read changed. Tomorrow though, I'll go to sleep soon
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On May 29 2018 05:33 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 04:52 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuba do you have a read on LS? Finally caught up. Sorry - I'm moving in a week and spent all day yesterday getting things set up :/ Only real thing that stuck out about ls to me is that he keeps commenting on people not participating, but hasn't voted. Not definitive, but doesn't make me feel particularly good about him. I liked kpshi originally, but I really like your case on him. Leaving out the one post that matters 🙃
Why didn't you switch from Koshi to Jealous or DF at the time you posted "I reread Koshi's filter and it's not that bad" near the deadline ?
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and with that I'm going to sleep. I'm still not convinced by Koshi - if he's town, fuba makes sense to attack, but if fuba is town and Koshi is scum it makes sense too, it's an easy target in that scenario. The most important thing is that fuba cannot be scum with Koshi, and Koshi is not playing his energetic town self. Lynching him unless he becomes really townie is the best plan. Especially since a lot of things depends on his alignment
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On May 29 2018 05:43 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:37 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:33 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:52 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuba do you have a read on LS? Finally caught up. Sorry - I'm moving in a week and spent all day yesterday getting things set up :/ Only real thing that stuck out about ls to me is that he keeps commenting on people not participating, but hasn't voted. Not definitive, but doesn't make me feel particularly good about him. I liked kpshi originally, but I really like your case on him. Leaving out the one post that matters 🙃 Why didn't you switch from Koshi to Jealous or DF at the time you posted "I reread Koshi's filter and it's not that bad" near the deadline ? I didn't believe jealous was scum, but was ok with him as a policy lynch. I wasn't gonna vote him, but wasn't really too upset with him as an option. And I had little thought on DF. I definitely wasn't gonna pop in and vote DF with no personal reasoning 20 minutes before EOD. I guess since I was viewing Koshi as town, the smarter thing would have been to switch my vote to someone who was definitely not being lynched, but I didn't consider that at the time. Shenannies are for people who have had the time and have given a good deal of thought to what they're doing - I didn't have that.
? I thought you didn't vote Jealous because rayn was on him:
On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.
And voting a null read over a townread is kinda weird too
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On May 29 2018 05:49 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:46 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:43 fuba wrote:On May 29 2018 05:37 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:33 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:52 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuba do you have a read on LS? Finally caught up. Sorry - I'm moving in a week and spent all day yesterday getting things set up :/ Only real thing that stuck out about ls to me is that he keeps commenting on people not participating, but hasn't voted. Not definitive, but doesn't make me feel particularly good about him. I liked kpshi originally, but I really like your case on him. Leaving out the one post that matters 🙃 Why didn't you switch from Koshi to Jealous or DF at the time you posted "I reread Koshi's filter and it's not that bad" near the deadline ? I didn't believe jealous was scum, but was ok with him as a policy lynch. I wasn't gonna vote him, but wasn't really too upset with him as an option. And I had little thought on DF. I definitely wasn't gonna pop in and vote DF with no personal reasoning 20 minutes before EOD. I guess since I was viewing Koshi as town, the smarter thing would have been to switch my vote to someone who was definitely not being lynched, but I didn't consider that at the time. Shenannies are for people who have had the time and have given a good deal of thought to what they're doing - I didn't have that. ? I thought you didn't vote Jealous because rayn was on him: On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous. And voting a null read over a townread is kinda weird too Why would rayn being on him affect my thoughts on jealous? Rayn being on jealous instead of Koshi affected my thoughts on rayn. Early game I'm almost always voting null over town. Not sure what the alternative is when I don't have strong scum reads.
I read the quote of yours I've posted as "I would switch to Jealous if rayn wasn't on the wagon".
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On May 29 2018 05:50 Koshi wrote:
I wont be more energetic than this.
The game is just something I do on the side.
My content should be better than fubas if it is between us. But you decide to let meta influence you too much.
meh. Weak. You always say stuff like that, "I won't play D1", "I won''t post too much", etc., then you don't do it. And ofc I'm using meta. This is not a smurf game.
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On May 29 2018 07:27 GlowingBear wrote:
You do this all the time as mafia. Says someone is scum, but attacks someone else.
@Rels: I may have missed a post of yours, but why are you voting Koshi instead of darthfoley? You seemed pretty sure DF was scum day1.
DF was my most likely scum D1 but I was not 100% sure, I think I mentioned I had like 60% confidence.
For Koshi, just read my filter from this post. I'm way more sure of it
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On May 29 2018 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Grack has been exceptionally smart. Countered the rayn case and now this. /clapclap You know what they say about broken clocks.
They don't work
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byj can you answer these:
On May 27 2018 04:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 03:55 byj wrote:On May 27 2018 03:33 Rels wrote:
byj did you read the OP before starting to play ? Yes. What do you mean? Why did you ask these questions in your entry post if you read the OP ? The answers are in it. And the OP also specifies that we can't no-lynch. Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 22:58 byj wrote:
Hiya! So am I right to assume we all have no night actions and have to find Mafia through talking/ voting patterns? I voted No Lynch in case I forget, but I don't trust any of you enough to follow on a lynch~
On May 29 2018 03:07 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:
LS:
Him trying to lead off/ defend Jealous seems suspicious to me, but I don't think Mafia would take such a gamble What did he do that you think was too ballsy for scum ? Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:
Koshi:
Doesn't exactly seem the most innocent to me, but I don't trust the lynch on him, so going with Town for now I don't understand. "he's scummy, but the votes point at him being town" => is that what you're saying ? Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:Rels: On May 27 2018 07:56 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:On May 27 2018 07:55 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Shenannies on fuba I could do that NOW if we have a third, why not. Would prefer DF though Makes me think that he might be in cahoots with fuba So my alignment is entirely depending on fuba's ?
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HF, GB is the reason Jealous was the first wagon that was consolidated, ahead of Koshi. Read the thread starting from here. If GB votes Koshi here, and it's easy for him to do, Koshi is very likely the lynch. So that makes no sense that GB is scum: UNLESS Koshi is scum. This makes no sense if Koshi is town. So, vote Koshi ?
GB, HF's attitude EOD1 doesn't make sense as scum. First, his bait move: this is a town move, and if you reread EOD, it actually makes sense. Scum very rarely do stuff like that. Second, his bait move ended up killing a scum. If there is one thing scum!HF is not afraid of, it's looking bad. As scum he would have voted DF easily. So unless you think the scumteam is exactly DF / HF, which makes sense by itself but has other problems (why didn't DF vote Koshi in that scenario), HF is very likely town.
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On May 30 2018 05:16 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 19:57 Koshi wrote:
Oh well. I cannot not vote fuba.
Hiding his alignment and very low content. Superficial read if he had a read.
Quite amazing the baddies lynch me over that. What does "hides his alignment" mean? And you can totally not vote Fuba - just switch to DF Also, I'm always very low content, that's nai. You're saying the scummiest person in the thread is the one who agreed with the only confirmed townies case enough to start the wagon (though that happened to be a wagon on you, so I guess I could understand some animosity in that regard, assuming you're town). Aside from a slight downturn in activity, this is pure town Fuba play. I'm not sure you're scum, and I think GB might switch back to DF if his HF vote isn't doing anything. I don't like that DFs vote is on you. Then we only need one other person to not throw their vote away~
It's very unlikely that DF is scum if Koshi is not. Because his last post EOD1 was him agreeing on rayn's Koshi case. He could have easily voted Koshi at any time after that point, saving Jealous in the process; and he didn't.
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On May 30 2018 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Only reason I didn't vote is because idk if shannies going to happen or not.
Shannies to who ... ? Isn't fuba your only scumread ?
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and I don't understand how you can townread Koshi. You've played with him so much. This is not how he plays town
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On May 31 2018 08:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I healed GB.
great
I assume this goes without saying, but just in case: if you're doc, you counterclaim right now. Any claim further than today will be immediately lynched.
But in all likelyhood we have 2 conf town
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On May 31 2018 20:19 byj wrote:
Also 25% of the day gone already, nobody feels like talking anymore?
I have very busy days at work right now, can only play during evenings
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I finally have 1 free hour to play the damn game.
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On June 01 2018 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2018 22:46 Rels wrote:On May 31 2018 08:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I healed GB. great I assume this goes without saying, but just in case: if you're doc, you counterclaim right now. Any claim further than today will be immediately lynched. But in all likelyhood we have 2 conf town Why wouldn't you believe Grack?
I do ?
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On June 01 2018 03:29 GlowingBear wrote:
I have a strong feeling byj is town. His posts seems relaxed, are original, he seems to believe in what he is posting, and seems interesting to get the discussion going. If he is newbie at mafia, I'd expect him to just get silent and let town drown in the lack of information.
I don't know about that. Something bothered me about the timing of his appearance during the D2 lynch. Let me see if that makes sense or not.
Yeah that is it. He's AFK for the last half of the day and cmes back 20 minutes before deadline:
On May 30 2018 07:38 byj wrote:
Okay I am back, gonna catch up the thread, but very 'surprising' voters on Koshi.
But post this just after the flip:
On May 30 2018 08:06 byj wrote:
What a surprise!! I AM SHOOK!
So cocky for someone that didn't do anything to influence the lynch.
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On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.
This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ?
Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real.
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On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.
Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ?
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On June 01 2018 07:40 byj wrote:
<3
RELS, DF mind talking?
##unvote
##vote: Rels
Why me over DF ? What happened to your fuba scumread ?
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On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me. Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ?
Found this, is it what you're talkign about ?
On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^
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During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.
On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially.
But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1:
On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before???? From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some). But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective. I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes.
Why ? What changed ?
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On May 27 2018 00:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. ls is either confirmed town or bming the game btw so that's cool I was going to ask the mods to at least tell fuba and df to post since they only had 2 posts for df at that point and 0 for fuba. I just going to see fuba get replaced most likely.
On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.<
These still look forced after rereading them.
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Well this is the end of my lunch break.
##Vote LightningStrike
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Still think DF and HF are town.
DF could have voted Koshi for free D1. He said he scumread him, but didn't vote him. D1 would have had a Koshi lynch if DF did that. Regardless of his current lack of post, that makes no sense if he's scum.
HF could have voted DF if he's scum. He's not the type of player that shies at looking bad if it wins lynching town over scum. The dude survives a red check in Himalays FFS. I don't see him hammering his own partner EOD1 when he could have saved him. This could make sense if DF is scum => but see above why I don't think it's the case.
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On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up: Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ? Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real. I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrikeShow nested quote +On June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me. Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ? Found this, is it what you're talkign about ? On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^ That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test. Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1: On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1: On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before???? From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some). But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective. I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes. Why ? What changed ? My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD.
Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home.
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On June 01 2018 23:17 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 19:58 Rels wrote:
I don't know about that. Something bothered me about the timing of his appearance during the D2 lynch. Let me see if that makes sense or not.
Yeah that is it. He's AFK for the last half of the day and cmes back 20 minutes before deadline:
Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 22:24 byj wrote:
I voted Fuba for now, I will be gone for the whole day tomorrow, so if you have any questions, ask them now please. Unless you expect me to hope that somehow the lynch goes on a townie, which I town read, it makes no sense So what do you want me to do except say I think he is town and say the lynch looks scummy? Pay people money to change?
Yeah, if you replace "pay" by "don't AFK 24 hours and arguee with people to get your lynch"
I don't even remember why you were so sure Koshi was town. Something about the lynch D1 making him town I think ? I'll check that tonight
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On June 02 2018 01:45 Grackaroni wrote:I'm confused why you keep arguing this when DF wasn't there at the end of the day. Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post. Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ... You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not. If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous. But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do. Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:42 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 19:50 Koshi wrote:
Yeah.. what can I say. I am undecided on df atm. Why isn't he almost conf town from your POV ... ? He could have lynched you but didn't. Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:53 Rels wrote:
'cause I don't agree. Koshi's posts didn't convince me. When he's town he gets very excited about something and it shows. The only time it happened this game was in his first spree of posts D1. Koshi not knowing what to do about DF when DF had the opportunity to hammer him is also weird.
What I'm saying is: KILL KOSHI. If he's town it should become obvious.
##Vote Koshi
'cause his last post of the day was about liking the case on Koshi. That's when he could have voted him.
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On June 02 2018 01:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Sure.
I'm going to vote Rels for now but I'm still reading through things atm.
I don't think LS is the right lynch.
Why do you think LS is scum ?
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On June 01 2018 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 23:45 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up: On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ? Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real. I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrikeOn June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me. Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ? Found this, is it what you're talkign about ? On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^ That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test. On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1: On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1: On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before???? From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some). But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective. I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes. Why ? What changed ? My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD. Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike&page=7 Middle of the page area. Not as elaborate as this one but still was a reaction test to see if I could bite a scum or two.
So you're talking about this:
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.
On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting  ##Unvote
In that game though you were trying to see if people switched vote to save scums. I can understand that.
In this current game you were trying to make GB react ... and if he hadn't gotten angry he would have been scum ? That seems pretty far-fetched to me.
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On June 02 2018 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 02:37 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 23:45 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up: On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ? Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real. I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrikeOn June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me. Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ? Found this, is it what you're talkign about ? On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^ That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test. On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1: On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
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well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1: On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
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But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective. I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes. Why ? What changed ? My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD. Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike&page=7 Middle of the page area. Not as elaborate as this one but still was a reaction test to see if I could bite a scum or two. So you're talking about this: On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff. On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting ##Unvote In that game though you were trying to see if people switched vote to save scums. I can understand that. In this current game you were trying to make GB react ... and if he hadn't gotten angry he would have been scum ? That seems pretty far-fetched to me. Sorry to burst your bubble but yes because I know him well enough that if he was happy enough about that he would of been scum but I don't think I seen him genuinely angry as scum before so it was a good test just not very well executed >.<
I don't know why but I don't have this image of GB not being able to be angry as scum ... I could be wrong though, I'll check.
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LS, I found quite a few posts where GB was pretty angry in his filter. So I think you're lying about this whole test stuff. GB getting angry doesn't prove he's town.
On February 18 2016 05:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I'm voting Kush because between Kush and Palmar I sincerely prefer to see dying the guy who admits have a null read on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER and is lynching a townie for a BAD POLICY LYNCH without giving a single FUCK to the Votecount AT EOD
##Vote: noon
On February 18 2016 05:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Like seriously, there is no reason to call Kush town here
VOTE KUSH
On February 18 2016 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
LOOK AT HOW PALMAR'S WAGON SUDDENLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT
VOTE KUSH
On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID
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And GB ACTUALLY got angry already in this game.
On May 29 2018 06:03 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is koshi pushing? Jealous was up for lynch for quite a while and yet nobody joined onto the koshi wagon other than ls (who I think/thought was town) and fuba (really weak gut read town). Unless both of them are Jealous' partners or his partners are afk then nobody gave a shit about lynching koshi to save their team mate? Koshi never really became any kind of majority when it would be the easiest counter push for mafia to make. This goes the same for df. If LS or Fuba are mafia why did they not switch to df to save jealous? Koshi seems incredibly meek from what I've skimmed and is probably mafia. His alignment is really the key to figuring out this game.
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. MY GOD HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THING I POST BUT KEEP CALLING ME MAFIA JESUS CHRIST IVE NEVER SEEN YOU THIS TUNNELED AS EITHER ALIGNMENT
Was that not enough for you ?
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On June 02 2018 02:54 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 02:49 Rels wrote:LS, I found quite a few posts where GB was pretty angry in his filter. So I think you're lying about this whole test stuff. GB getting angry doesn't prove he's town. On February 18 2016 05:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I'm voting Kush because between Kush and Palmar I sincerely prefer to see dying the guy who admits have a null read on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER and is lynching a townie for a BAD POLICY LYNCH without giving a single FUCK to the Votecount AT EOD
##Vote: noon On February 18 2016 05:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Like seriously, there is no reason to call Kush town here
VOTE KUSH On February 18 2016 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
LOOK AT HOW PALMAR'S WAGON SUDDENLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT
VOTE KUSH On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID Which game was that? Probably one where I didn't play with him unless is total shit.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia?user=GlowingBear
What game did you play with scum!GB then ?
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Apparently you were VT is that game where GB was scum:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia
GB didn't seem unable to get angry in that game either:
On April 20 2015 11:57 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 11:52 sicklucker wrote:On April 20 2015 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 20 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:On April 20 2015 11:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
A glaring mistake in your case just skimming through btw
SL never scumreads artanis at all so I think your whole second point kinda falls apart
I dunno if I should feel bad because the case isn't awful but I just don't feel convinced
I think all of SL's inconsistencies have been pointed out before but for some reason I don't find myself caring about them too much and clearly neither does anyone else
I truly don't know why
SL you should explain some of this stuff at some point I posted the quote he scumreads Artanis... He voted Artanis until the very last second... He assumed Artanis was killed by vigi because Artanis was scummy... I looked through his filter and you're right, but the post you quoted is not technically a scumread of him. Alright more to explain SL go ahead of course I scumread artanis why do you think I almost lynched him? I think its more logical the veg agreed with me then shot an afk palmer. If im scum why dont I kill artanis? im pretty sure I could have hammered him too. I could kill two good town players instead of a good town player + ls. Remember the vote was close like 3-3 and I UNVOTED artanis. Why? I explain I looked at his pregame excuse to limit his filter. I figured I would give him another day. No offense to ls but hes never finding mafia. I have played like 10 games with ls and hes never found and identified one mafia. He just sheeps. Artanis might find mafia and I might townread him. Ls wont that was my logic to switch That doesn't make sense. You scumread Artanis but decide to vote LS because he isn't equally valuable town asset as Artanis is. Then you ask your strongest scumread to vote for your weakest scumread, he does that and you VOTE WITH HIM WHILE STILL BELIEVING HE IS MAFIA AND YOU THINK VIGI AGREED WITH YOU AFTER THIS??????
On April 21 2015 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
FOR FUCK SAKE, I'M NOT CALLING SL MAFIA FOR TRYING TO GET VIGI TO CLAIM
I'M CALLING HIM MAFIA FOR SAYING HE SHOULDN'T WORK WITH BAD INFORMATION, BUT INSTANTLY USING THAT BAD INFORMATION AS BASIS TO HIS WHOLE PLAY AFTER NIGHT1
OMG HF
On April 21 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
nice you posted a useless post where you say exactly what i said
1. the sentence literally after what you wrote says: "this could just be awful vivax"
2. easy targets is such a bull shit reason for someone being mafia when they put cases on those people that are thought out like you can't pick and choose who is mafia in a game so what if they were all easy mislynch people???? people pushing them must be mafia!!!!
3. how the fuck are you an easy target?? which people in this game aren't easy targets then????????? THREAD SENTIMENT IS AGAINST ME ALL THREAD SENTIMENT GOING AGAINST ME IS BEING IN AN EASY TARGET TRY TO LYNCH SICKLUCKER WHO IS SCUMMY AS HELL JUST TRY IT YOU WON'T BE ABLE THREAD SENTIMENT ISN'T AGAINST HIM + PEOPLE SIMPLY CAN'T SEE HOW HE IS MAFIA YOU'RE FUCKING LETTING HIM LIVE BECAUSE HE IS BAD EVERY GAME, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS EXCUSE????
On April 21 2015 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, if you think he could be awful Vivax, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SCUMREADING HIM THEN?????
On April 21 2015 05:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Fuck this
I want to lynch SL first
If impossible, I want to lynch HF
If impossible, I'll lynch Koshi
I will lynch no one else.
I'm pretty certain this is the scum team + Koshi is intentionally trying to piss WoS off, reinforcing the argument that Koshi is mafia with them.
On April 21 2015 07:38 GlowingBear wrote:
EVERYTIME I CAN GET MY PHONE TO CHECK THE THREAD THERE IS HF POSTING THIS STUPID "AFK GB AGAIN LOLOLOL MAFIA" AAAAAARGH
YOU COULDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN WHY BEING AFK MAKES ME MAFIA AND YOU FUCKING DIDN'T PROPERLY READ MY CASE ON SL, A CASE THAT EVEN HIIIIIIIMSEEEEEELF COULDN'T CLEAR HIS THOUGHT PROCESS WTF AAAAAAAAAAARGH
HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE IT??????????????
On April 21 2015 07:40 GlowingBear wrote:HOW DO YOU FUCKING KNOW SL AND KOSHI ARE TOWN LIKE THAT????? YOU WERE FUCKING VOTING KOSHI ALL DAY LONG FFS
On April 21 2015 07:44 GlowingBear wrote:
This is fucking unacceptable.
It doesn't even make sense to policy lynch someone you have a slight townread over any other lurker you have as null.
You backing off of Koshi just proves my theory.
PLEASE, TOWN, PLEASE SEE THIS, THIS IS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS!!!
On April 21 2015 07:45 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 07:42 Koshi wrote:On April 21 2015 07:40 GlowingBear wrote:On April 21 2015 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
yeh gb's list is like 3 townies HOW DO YOU FUCKING KNOW SL AND KOSHI ARE TOWN LIKE THAT????? YOU WERE FUCKING VOTING KOSHI ALL DAY LONG FFS stfu GB. You are terrible. How the fuck do you know SL and I are town and that HF knows that? Fucking so bad. Fuck you Koshi, you know exactly what I meant
On April 21 2015 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 07:45 Holyflare wrote:it does make sense and if you read the thread vayne asked me the very same question On April 19 2015 11:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
sure, if were taking out trash why not me or loafery before koshi? seems more like a premeditated decision rather then just a throwaway vote. On April 19 2015 11:29 Holyflare wrote:
because he's also actively being a douche You know this is a shitty answer
On April 21 2015 07:48 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 07:46 sicklucker wrote:
Can we just vote gb its more funny when hes mafia here. I dont even care if im wrong I want to be right. Im thinking hf is kind of townie latey. Hes just doing random things i dont think he would do as mafia LOL LOOK AT THIS SHIT FUCK THIS GAME FUCKING MISLYNCH ME AND FUCKING LOSE THE GAME THIS TOWN DESERVES TO LOSE THIS SHIT
On April 21 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
why is it a shitty answer? of all the afkers to policy lynch i'd choose the one actively being a dick and potentially playing anti win con any day, ESPECIALLY if I think he is a bit towny IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ACTIVELY VOTE FOR LYNCHING A TOWN READ THAN BACK OFF CONVINIENTLY AT EOD WHEN KOSHI DIDN'T MAKE SHIT FOR YOU TO FLIP LIKE THAT AND FORM A WAGON ON A TOWNIE UNLESS YOU'RE FUCKING MAFIA WITH KOSHI
On April 21 2015 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol I'm out of this, fuck this game
Fucking mislynch me and fucking LOSE THIS SHIT
Do as you please, I don't give a fuck anymore
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On June 02 2018 02:55 Grackaroni wrote:Oh I see it was this post that was about Koshi. Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:On May 27 2018 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1st post: "GB is town"
2nd psot: "GB is ACTUALLY town, this is my final decision"
3rd psot: "you know actually GB is town"
yeaaaahhh... i'm down with this read
Yeah.
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Grack why do you think LS is town ? He got stucked in this "I was baiting GB" story so hard that he has now backed himself into a corner.
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On June 02 2018 03:03 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:On June 02 2018 02:54 LightningStrike wrote:On June 02 2018 02:49 Rels wrote:LS, I found quite a few posts where GB was pretty angry in his filter. So I think you're lying about this whole test stuff. GB getting angry doesn't prove he's town. On February 18 2016 05:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I'm voting Kush because between Kush and Palmar I sincerely prefer to see dying the guy who admits have a null read on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER and is lynching a townie for a BAD POLICY LYNCH without giving a single FUCK to the Votecount AT EOD
##Vote: noon On February 18 2016 05:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Like seriously, there is no reason to call Kush town here
VOTE KUSH On February 18 2016 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
LOOK AT HOW PALMAR'S WAGON SUDDENLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT
VOTE KUSH On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID Which game was that? Probably one where I didn't play with him unless is total shit. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia?user=GlowingBearWhat game did you play with scum!GB then ? Witchcraft 3 as his scum partner. I think that was it. He was smurfing as FreezingFoot. He didnt get that angry that game but he bumped heads with wbg.
So this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=FreezingFoot&view=all
He got angry in a few posts too:
On June 10 2015 07:12 FreezingFoot wrote:
YOU ARE GOING TO MISLYNCH HIM!!!!
On June 10 2015 07:12 FreezingFoot wrote:
FUCKING VOTE BILL MURRAY!
On June 10 2015 07:29 FreezingFoot wrote:
This is ridiculous.
BM's play is completely unnatural, forced, and completely anti-town.
Shockey's play is completely uninspiring and his inconsistencies can't come from a town perspective.
Yet the biggest wagons are null LS and modkillable Stutters. LOL.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE HERE! PLEASE VOTE BILL!!!!
On June 10 2015 07:32 FreezingFoot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:29 Kickstart wrote:
Also LS scum reading Bill who was the only other real possibility of getting lynched (aside form the lurkers which I asked him to ignore) is odd. In this situation as town, I pour out all my thoughts so that town has something from me to go on when I am confirmed town at the flip. Meanwhile LS just afks. THE GUY IS THE FUCKING LYNCH FOR TODAY IF HE IS SCUM THIS IS THE EXACT TIME HE WOULD BE DEFENDING HIMSELF TO SURVIVE YET HE ISN'T EVEN TRYING TO DEFEND HIMSELF ARGGGGH
On June 10 2015 07:50 FreezingFoot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:47 Bill Murray wrote:On June 10 2015 07:46 Kickstart wrote:
Bill don't tell who you vote to get powers. Christ. Mafia has 2 silver bullets they can use anytime to instakill ppl who got powers through the witchcraft votes. kickstart, you really think it isn't obvious WBG is going to get powers? LOL LOOK AT THIS SHIT!!! AAAARGH
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Like LS I'm sorry if you're town, I've tried these last games to not attack people over not being logical for a detail. But this makes no sense.
First, the whole concept of "I did these weird posts because I was baiting" usually comes from scum.
Second, you declared GB was town as a result of the "bait" because he got angry. But he had already gotten angry a few times before in this current game, in particular fighting HF.
Third, I checked 3 different scumgames of GB, 2 of them you were in, and in the 3 GB was perfectly able to get angry as scum; it actually seems like it's the thing he likes to do when he doesn't know what else to post.
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On June 02 2018 03:09 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 03:03 Rels wrote:
Grack why do you think LS is town ? He got stucked in this "I was baiting GB" story so hard that he has now backed himself into a corner. Maybe I'm wrong. It was mostly based on the way he responded when people gave him a scum read in posts like this one. Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. He said things like this a couple of other times when people scum read him and I was going to try to see if he does it as scum. You would think you would be able to meta LS but I have a hard time with it.
I actually find this post pretty weird, the PM to the host thing seems pretty forced to me.
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On June 02 2018 03:15 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 03:13 Rels wrote:On June 02 2018 03:09 Grackaroni wrote:On June 02 2018 03:03 Rels wrote:
Grack why do you think LS is town ? He got stucked in this "I was baiting GB" story so hard that he has now backed himself into a corner. Maybe I'm wrong. It was mostly based on the way he responded when people gave him a scum read in posts like this one. On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. He said things like this a couple of other times when people scum read him and I was going to try to see if he does it as scum. You would think you would be able to meta LS but I have a hard time with it. I actually find this post pretty weird, the PM to the host thing seems pretty forced to me. I don't know. I can read passive-aggressive anger in his response and if LS was going to pretend to be angry about something I don't think he would fake subtle anger.
yeah, I was talking about the other half of the post. For the first part, dunno, seems like the classic "you're town but bad" scum can do. I don't think it makes him scum but I'm don't see the opposite either.
I guess it's worth to check if LS ever responded to a scumread in that manner as scum
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?user=LightningStrike&view=all
no real post like that one, apart from this:
On December 21 2016 06:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 06:17 ExO_ wrote:On December 21 2016 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:On December 21 2016 06:13 ExO_ wrote:On December 21 2016 06:11 LightningStrike wrote:On December 21 2016 06:09 ExO_ wrote:On December 21 2016 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:On December 21 2016 06:03 sicklucker wrote:On December 21 2016 06:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I still don't think ExO is mafia based on meta and I still didn't see any real case on disformation unless I missed it somewhere in my skim. I pretty sure HF and Koshi are very likely town with their interactions with other people with their questioning. Dunno about sicklucker though seems very trollish early into not doing much. Kinda want to talk to him when he gets back to get a better read on him. Rels seems pretty townie too for his questioning and trying to push discussion on disformation but didn't see a real case on him :\ just vote me bra I honestly don't want to waste my vote on you especially considering how many people rather lynch ExO although I don't want to lynch him tbh. Why are you so sure I'm town, when everyone else thinks I'm scum? Because I had read some of your past games compared it to this game and this game you seems like your game more than scum. I am the meta king of TL Mafia. Unless you learned how to be a very emotional scum I don't see you being scum here unless you pulled a me. The other possibility is that you are scum, know I'm town, and are trying to get town cred for the future I am the meta king and town this game I assure you Koshi and the others can back me up on how good I am with meta. I'm highly skeptical. How is it you almost immediately believed me, when everyone else is convinced I'm the mafia boogie man? Either you really are the meta king, or you are scum. I find it more likely that you are scum, which is ironic because you're the only person who believes I'm town right now First I take a look at some of your past games as both alignments then compared this game with them. Then I make my judgement. I am truly the meta king of TL Mafia
Kinda different though, more braggy than insulting. Later he fake raged, voting himself, screaming, etc. But I already knew LS could do that as either alignments since millionnaire.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503886-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-cell-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
There is this one that is similar:
On February 27 2016 08:40 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 08:37 Vivax wrote:
Im still kinda feeling a scum LS here, for the following reasons:
You really stuck your neck out with your bresh read.
How LS changed his opinion on bresh which I mentioned earlier doesnt sit right with me.
Rels doesn't even seem interested into the possibility of lynching LS as displayed during my research this day which is not ideal for scum.
I think this is right now because I had already told you need to get rid of your tinfoil hat because you are wrong on me: ![[image loading]](http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53016c21e4b0484cf754d052/t/55536c41e4b0a7df4f94aa44/1431530562676/)
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On June 02 2018 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
lol we found the same one.
it's not even the same one, that's the beauty
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he just likes that picture p:
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On June 02 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Someone just tell me who mafia is before I die from exhaustion.
I have a better suggestion: read the thread and decide for yourself.
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On June 02 2018 03:46 Grackaroni wrote:
In 2 years scum!LS will post that tinfoil picture again in response to being accused and I will quote this post as evidence.
sssh don't spoil my plan
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On June 02 2018 04:02 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 04:00 Holyflare wrote:On June 02 2018 03:44 Rels wrote:On June 02 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Someone just tell me who mafia is before I die from exhaustion. I have a better suggestion: read the thread and decide for yourself. I really don't have time. Grack pick a guy and I'll vote. Ok vote Rels. His play seems the most mafia-agenda driven to me.
Why ?
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On June 02 2018 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:From day 1 this: Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 02:23 Grackaroni wrote:I dislike that Rels refers to the Jealous lynch as just a coin flip when his assumption was that the scum team would be a team of lurkers. On May 27 2018 07:17 Rels wrote:
Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy On May 27 2018 07:54 Rels wrote:
I don't think GB is scum. I hate this EOD though. Team is probably something like DF / dyl / fuba, and just letting the lynch happen + I don't trust his push on Koshi. From my POV HF was the lunatic town who hard pushed all of the active townies in a way that was unlikely to be done by scum DF was the town shitter who pushed Koshi but misread me/Rayn/GB etc. Rels was the player who read GB/Rayn/HF well but misread the only other player (Koshi) who was reading the game well and pushed a meta case against him and it seemed opportunistic to me rather than an omgus push. His misreading of Koshi just rubs me the wrong way I guess. Like Rels should have known better than to push the lynch based on how he was reading other people in the game.
For the first point, it was about the feeling of the end of day. It didn't feel like it was going to be a succesful D1 scum lynch. Which made me think the scumteam was just letting it happen. Not the other one around.
So it was: the activity doesn't feel like a D1 scum lynch => scumteam must be happy letting it happen => Jealous is probably town.
Not scumteam is inactive => Jealous is inactive so he's town, which makes no sense as you've said.
For the second point:
1. rayn had similar reads than mine and in particular scumread Koshi, why does that make only me scum ?
2. I disagree completely and I still don't understand how you and GB didn't see it. Well I mean, I was wrong and you were right. But still. Koshi was not townie, Koshi is often unlynchable as town, and he was not this game.
3. I don't think I would push for a Koshi lynch as scum. This game he was pretty low impact, but even then I don't know if I would do it. I think I would be way too afraid to fight him 1 on 1, lighting his fire, and get rekt.
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As scum I attack easy targets. This game I can garantee you I would have attacked fuba yesterday and DF today.
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On June 02 2018 04:24 Holyflare wrote:
When was the first time you scum read koshi and what for rels?
I kinda like what rayn posted during D1, not enough to make me switch though. During D1 the only thing I thought was good enough to be lynched was DF's comeback post being shit.
Then he continued being lackluster during N1, D2. At D2 I attacked him frontally, I thought he had a good chance flipping scum but I was less convinced that I appeared. When he barely reacted to my attack I was sure he was scum.
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On June 02 2018 04:29 Grackaroni wrote:
HF should we lynch LS?
Why wouldn't you ? His bait story makes no sense. And the only thing you townread for, you found out he could do it as scum.
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On June 02 2018 04:47 Holyflare wrote:I really haven't read enough
1. LS gets angry at GB, then explains it was a bait
On June 01 2018 04:07 LightningStrike wrote:
##Vote: LightningStrike
Decided it's time to do this.
On June 01 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Why are you so dodgy about your reads, LS? Just lynch me.
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<
This type of explanation usually comes from scum when they need to find an explanation fast.
2. LS explains the test was the following: if GB got angry he's town, if not he's scum
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.
On June 01 2018 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:35 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum? Ya mainly because I would imagine you actually laughing and cheering for a potential free lynch but no you were super angry regarding that entire notion don't think you could do that scum knowing you very well.
On June 02 2018 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 02:37 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 23:45 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up: On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ? Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real. I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrikeOn June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me. Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ? Found this, is it what you're talkign about ? On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^ That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test. On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1: On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
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well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1: On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
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But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective. I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes. Why ? What changed ? My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD. Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike&page=7 Middle of the page area. Not as elaborate as this one but still was a reaction test to see if I could bite a scum or two. So you're talking about this: On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff. On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting ##Unvote In that game though you were trying to see if people switched vote to save scums. I can understand that. In this current game you were trying to make GB react ... and if he hadn't gotten angry he would have been scum ? That seems pretty far-fetched to me. Sorry to burst your bubble but yes because I know him well enough that if he was happy enough about that he would of been scum but I don't think I seen him genuinely angry as scum before so it was a good test just not very well executed >.<
That makes no sense for 2 reasons:
1 - GB actually get angry as scum: I just read 3 games of his, 2 of which LS was in, and in each he got angry at some point. See:
Post 1
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Post 3
2 - GB already got angry this game, so LS should already think GB is scum if that's his way of reading him. Examples:
On May 29 2018 06:03 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is koshi pushing? Jealous was up for lynch for quite a while and yet nobody joined onto the koshi wagon other than ls (who I think/thought was town) and fuba (really weak gut read town). Unless both of them are Jealous' partners or his partners are afk then nobody gave a shit about lynching koshi to save their team mate? Koshi never really became any kind of majority when it would be the easiest counter push for mafia to make. This goes the same for df. If LS or Fuba are mafia why did they not switch to df to save jealous? Koshi seems incredibly meek from what I've skimmed and is probably mafia. His alignment is really the key to figuring out this game.
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. MY GOD HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THING I POST BUT KEEP CALLING ME MAFIA JESUS CHRIST IVE NEVER SEEN YOU THIS TUNNELED AS EITHER ALIGNMENT
On May 29 2018 06:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2018 05:09 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:06 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? really bad rels it's super obvious if you read the game even a little bit lol. Quote it then. It's before deadline where he says I never voted rayn and used it to try and deflect votes off the koshi wagon etc etc. THat's just one instance. Another is how his reads develop over time with no new critical thinking or development and then just magically change when the situation looks bad for his team mate. Something that massively weighs me in the favour of a GB/Koshi scum team is that GB scum reads rayn/grack ALL OF DAY 1 but then Koshi starts to be a wagon when rayn made his "outdated" case on koshi. Somehow that rayn and grack read magically changes to oh wait they're town now and he votes jealous with them. When I pressure him to explain that read he fobs it off and basically has NO reason that his read changed on them. The only correlation is that Koshi is up for lynch. We then know how the rest of the deadline went down where he basically switches off jealous for absolutely no reason and then criticises you multiple times for not voting jealous(?????). Furthermore, with regards to Koshi. I don't EVER believe he votes LS in this situation. If he has a pool of ls/fuba/df/you etc (which is already a major bs pool of basically people that didn't vote jealous) why would he vote LS? LS could have easily voted df in this situation to save Jealous but did not, Fuba as well. Koshi isn't critically analysing anything that went down at deadline. DF is the key to him solving the game but he refuses to vote there. I am pretty sure it's because it reveals that GB was the counter wagon initiator to save Koshi. OMG HF Grack was going to be the lynch when I switched to Jealous WHY WOULD I SWITCH TO JEALOUS TO SAVE GODDAMN KOSHI?
3. The posts where he mentions stuff he did regarded to the host are not natural.
On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post.
On May 27 2018 00:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. ls is either confirmed town or bming the game btw so that's cool I was going to ask the mods to at least tell fuba and df to post since they only had 2 posts for df at that point and 0 for fuba. I just going to see fuba get replaced most likely.
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On June 02 2018 05:04 byj wrote:3h left, 3 votes on LS, holy/darth/fuba 1 DF + HF have yet to vote. Noteworthy how 'much' DF posted today: Show nested quote +On May 31 2018 12:44 darthfoley wrote:
irrelevant but i just watched the series finale of The Americans and i'm searching for emotions
I just want the Mafia to know... I understand you're just doing what you have to do. It is unfortunate that we find ourselves on opposite sides of this dangerous game. Also I only just now found about the filter button below the posts...
shit sorry. We should add that feature to the opening post
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On June 02 2018 05:12 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 05:06 Rels wrote:On June 02 2018 05:04 byj wrote:3h left, 3 votes on LS, holy/darth/fuba 1 DF + HF have yet to vote. Noteworthy how 'much' DF posted today: On May 31 2018 09:57 darthfoley wrote:GJ Grack, wp On May 31 2018 12:44 darthfoley wrote:
irrelevant but i just watched the series finale of The Americans and i'm searching for emotions
I just want the Mafia to know... I understand you're just doing what you have to do. It is unfortunate that we find ourselves on opposite sides of this dangerous game. Also I only just now found about the filter button below the posts... shit sorry. We should add that feature to the opening post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=31&u=HolyFlare&gb=forum&d=I was using this before, thought that's what you guys meant with filter
Even better, there is also a list of all the players' filters in the opening post.
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On June 02 2018 06:35 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 06:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways should I get lynched which I can understand where you guys coming from you must find the next 2 scums and but I think you guys should lynch Rels and DF for the next two lynches should I get lynched it just talking to a brickwall. What makes you chose Rels over fubar / me ?
OMGUS. He scumreads you / DF; I attack him; he acknowledges I'm right; yet I end up scum instead of you now. This is OMGUS.
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On June 02 2018 07:02 darthfoley wrote:
Feel like a total shithead for not playing this cycle but I've been busy and I feel totally unmotivated.
Regardless, I'm reading up now (on page 62) I'm going ride or die with a Rels Town read. Mon ami français
This feels like extreme buddying if I'm being honest. Anyway I know the feeling of being unmotivated all too well
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lol we have this show called Koh Lanta in France. It's actually incredibly popular. I had no idea it was based on another show called Survivor.
So I suppose the ORG part means it's played online, mafia like ? You talk via forums or something like that
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On June 02 2018 07:47 darthfoley wrote:If you're familiar with the famous reality show Survivor, it's a virtual version of that game over Facebook.
so the challenges are played over facebook games ?
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On June 02 2018 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:
VOTE DARTHFOLEY
why ?
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lol classic. Dead game until 5 minutes before deadline.
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nothing makes sense. That will be my last game for a long while
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On June 03 2018 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
Why is it weird that the doctor was shot over the person that isn't really playing?
yeah this makes no sense fuba ? Did you expect anyone to be killed over Grack tonight ?
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On June 04 2018 01:39 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2018 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On June 04 2018 01:18 fuba wrote:On June 04 2018 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
I think you going all out on me in lylo after not doing much might make you actually mafia though. It's quite obvious why grack would be a kill and people that I think are town (and byj who I actually need to look into) also agree. He was a doctor, there's nothing more to it. You then spin that to mean I must be mafia and when people disagree you rewrite the narrative. It's not good play. I haven't rewritten anything. Your first narrative was that I am alive today and it doesn't make sense that I wasn't shot after grack. Your second narrative is that the grack shot makes sense but that I shouldn't be alive either. Why should I not be alive when I've been playing like I have? What night would I have been shot? Oh, I wouldn't consider that a narrative. My narrative is that long post from a while ago. About how you're playing for endgame. And oh look - after a full game of basically ignoring me, you're going to start looking at me now (saving me for later). Actually, you're going to start looking at me and byj, the specific two that I mentioned I that previous post lol. What makes me more likely as scum to be oblivious to the fact that grack was obviously a better shot than you last night? If anything, I'd think that if I was scum that'd be the last thing I'd say because it would be too obvious to me, as I've literally just killed him cuz he's the doctor. Also, I would have shot you n2 if I was scum and you were town. Or n1, but definitely by n2. You're good enough at solving games that even if you're not being particularly active, I don't want you sticking around.
I don't know if I believe that. It would be true is most games, but in this game, GB was always the towniest player, while HF was not, even having a few votes on him at some point.
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Now I'm gonna reread the most important parts of the thread. First of them, EOD1, as it's likely the key of the game is there.
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On May 27 2018 05:31 fuba wrote:This is starting to bother me. I know rayn can be stubborn (at least that's how I consider him), but I think he's actually on to something with Koshi and he's still not voting him to sit on a policy lynch. I don't think they're both scum together, and I still thought rayn was town, but there's stubborn and there's this.
this post bothers me.
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Like, rayn is weirdly stubborn, but no worries he's still town ... what's the point of the post then ?
It looks like fuba is annoyed that rayn is not voting for Jealous' counterwagon, and he wants to say it, but he doesn't want to say rayn is scum. It's a roundabout way to say "rayn is bad".
It looks like fuba is trying to get rayn to vote Koshi over Jealous, without looking like he's doing exactly that.
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what did you mean by that picture ?
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On May 27 2018 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
ahhhhhhh gb is just mafia
there is no way he thinks the above
NO WAY!
He comes back after scum reading grack and rayn WHO I EVEN CASED AND GB AGREED WITH AND I VOTED to say that he doesn't like the wagon because I'm on it because I never voted rayn and didn't reevaluate rayn??????????? He also says the wagon is formed based on a flimsy rayn read but town reads rayn but clearly this post says rayn is posting an outdated read (so how the fuck does his town read on rayn even form) but then votes on the policy wagon rayn started?????????
This anger seems genuine. And it also makes sense with the end of D1, where HF thought GB was trying to save Jealous and did his trap
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On May 27 2018 07:36 fuba wrote:
I filtered him and I'm not sure anymore -_-
Koshi's whole "GB, use this post to defend yourself later" thing seems genuine town.
Oh yeah. There is this too.
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There are some things wrong with that post.
First, that means fuba voted Koshi in the first place without reading his filter ? Which was not long at all.
Second, even though fuba is now townreading Koshi, he won't switch to Jealous or DF until the deadline. This doesn't make sense, because he's not townreading Jealous nor DF.
If he's town, I don't know why he doesn't do any of these things.
If he's scum, this post makes sense though. It comes just after I've posted that I would vote Koshi over Jealous if I couldn't get my DF lynch:
On May 27 2018 07:17 Rels wrote:
Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy
Before my post, if nothing changed, you could assume Jealous was the lynch; after my post, if nothing else changed, Koshi would be the lynch, as my vote would hammer him. So to me, this post looks like fuba finally got his Koshi lynch, and is already preparing for Koshi flipping town, to look better after the flip.
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On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.
this is why fuba is not voting for Jealous, instead of Koshi, even though he now townread Koshi.
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On May 27 2018 07:54 Rels wrote:
I don't think GB is scum. I hate this EOD though. Team is probably something like DF / dyl / fuba, and just letting the lynch happen
Unless HF fooled me, I was right 2/3 D1
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well, that concludes EOD1. That strengthened my townread on HF, and I think fuba is 1 of the remaining scum.
His actions and posts make sense if they come from scum seeing his partner being a lynch candidate: softly pushing for a counterwagon, preparing for this counterwagon to flip town, not posting more than necessary.
They don't make sense from a town perspective: why voting Koshi without even reading his filter, just on the basis of one post ? Why not switch after townreading the dude you're voting for ? Why not call rayn scum instead of calling his behaviour weird but still town ?
I don't know who is his partner between DF and byj. Both have things for and against. I'll continue reading the other days.
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On June 04 2018 04:16 fuba wrote:
So why did I say anything about thinking Koshi could be town at all? As scum I could have just sat there with a good case against him provided by town rayn.
Also, I've been over my d1 vote twice now. My vote was either a throwaway at that point, or I could have randomly switched to DF to divert the lynch. Jealous was definitely getting lynched over Koshi.
I think you townread Koshi at that point because I just posted that I would switch to Koshi, so you were preparing Koshi flipping town.
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On June 04 2018 04:26 fuba wrote:
So in your mind, no scum will sit on a legit wagon until the end without conceding the lynch might be town?
Rayn's reasoning was solid on koshi. There is literally no reason for scum Fuba to just throw out that Koshi might be town and then sit on him.
I don't understand the question.
Well, I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum p: but this is wrong, your attitude makes perfect sense if you're scum. You can arguee all you want, you stayed on Jealous's counterwagon until the end, even though you thought he was town. This is a fact, and it doesn't make sense if you're town. Your explanations are less believable than you being scum.
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I'm not impossible to convince, especially in LYLO, but that's gonna be hard. Why should I vote someone else ? Your case against HF being alive D4 would make sense in other and longer games, but in this game I can see almost any scumteam without HF not shooting HF, given his play this game.
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On June 04 2018 04:51 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2018 04:36 Rels wrote:On June 04 2018 04:26 fuba wrote:
So in your mind, no scum will sit on a legit wagon until the end without conceding the lynch might be town?
Rayn's reasoning was solid on koshi. There is literally no reason for scum Fuba to just throw out that Koshi might be town and then sit on him. I don't understand the question. Well, I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum p: but this is wrong, your attitude makes perfect sense if you're scum. You can arguee all you want, you stayed on Jealous's counterwagon until the end, even though you thought he was town. This is a fact, and it doesn't make sense if you're town. Your explanations are less believable than you being scum. You're saying that scum Fuba saw the possibility of the person he's trying to mislynch actually being lynched, and decided that instead of riding out the solid case (for D1) that brought him to that mislynch, he would suggest that that person might actually be town, eliminating any defense he might have later in the game (now). There is NO reason for scum Fuba to do that.
yes. I think it's more likely than town!fuba voting Koshi without reading his filter, and not switching after townreading him. I also see those "rayn is town but him voting Jealous is super obtouse" posts as way more likely coming from scum, 'cause I can see the reasonning in that case: trying to get rayn to switch off Jealous without calling him scum.
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On May 29 2018 19:52 Koshi wrote:
I hope somebody reads my filter in case I die. I am keeping it nice and tidy.
<o/
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On May 30 2018 06:14 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:On May 30 2018 05:41 fuba wrote:On May 30 2018 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
Why do you not like that his vote is on koshi but don't mind that 2 other people are? Why do you have a problem with me trying to get Koshi to vote for DF? Because I think koshi is mafia because he's not voting df lol So let's see if he'll do it when he has no reason not to.
why did you not change your read on Koshi when he did not vote DF "when he had no reason not to" ?
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On May 30 2018 06:30 GlowingBear wrote:Lynch Scum ![[image loading]](https://images.clipartof.com/Cartoon-Of-A-Fist-Punching-A-Flame-Royalty-Free-Vector-Illustration-10241218951.jpg) Lynch Holyflare
this watermark should be illegal
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On June 02 2018 07:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 07:02 darthfoley wrote:
Feel like a total shithead for not playing this cycle but I've been busy and I feel totally unmotivated.
Regardless, I'm reading up now (on page 62) I'm going ride or die with a Rels Town read. Mon ami français This feels like extreme buddying if I'm being honest. Anyway I know the feeling of being unmotivated all too well
this still feel like buddying rereading it.
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well I'm done reading the thread
##Vote fuba
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Ty calix for the game, flawless hosting
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On June 05 2018 11:46 Vivax wrote:
I thought it was common knowledge for Rels that if he gets mislynched D1, he's town.
No flaws in this reasonning
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On June 05 2018 08:26 Grackaroni wrote:
Shit. I didn't think mafia would have had such a strong presence at EoD 1.
GG WP.
TBH we screwed up badly EOD1. I was so sure Jealous wouldn't be lynched, I was pretty confident in our D1 performance. Then you and GB voted him, HF tried his hardest to save him, I didn't know what to do ... HF played EOD1 perfectly, creating enough chaos to change EOD from something bad for us to something alright. If I had to switch to Koshi, or if HF didn't hammer Jealous instead of DF, the game would have been way harder.
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On June 05 2018 21:31 Koshi wrote:
Rels was catchable.
But personally I would never lynch Jealous over some1 like fuba d1 and d2 so blah.
don't know about that, I have an awful D1 as either alignments so I don't know if what you attacked me for was really AI. Maybe later, Grack was right that I was way too focused on the flow of the game to be town, but I don't think my D1 was AI.
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