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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 12:50 GMT
#1141
On January 26 2018 21:45 Mocsta wrote:
umm guys.
stop being doo-doo heads

tahts an exact replica of what we discussed

hes either confirmed town, or confirmed scum

yes 100% confirmed.

what isnt is alignment.. i know you are trying, but take a nap please.

Uhm, no.
The difference is that it is confirmed that mafia did not use their rb on their nightkill target. Which makes a fakeclaim a lot less likely because it means they wouldn't have used their rb at all.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 12:51 GMT
#1142
like, the previous scenarios was:
- BTDT is town and has been roleblocked
- BTDT is scum fakeclaiming, scum have used the roleblock on their kill target.
Neither scenario is more likely than the other, so it's not worth talking about.

BUT as JAT said, the second scenario is not possible, as KSC wasn't roleblocked. So the two scenarios become:
- BTDT is town and has been roleblocked
- BTDT is scum fakeclaiming, scum have NOT use their roleblock.
And that second scenario is almost impossible.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 26 2018 12:59 GMT
#1143
the fact that I think its OK to RB a separate target, to the Kill already supports there is more than one answer

you guys are bickering over your ideologies of how to play the game right

its stupid.

yes teh fakeclaim is unlikley, but its certainly not 100% confirmed.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:00 GMT
#1144
On January 26 2018 21:59 Mocsta wrote:
the fact that I think its OK to RB a separate target, to the Kill already supports there is more than one answer

you guys are bickering over your ideologies of how to play the game right

its stupid.

yes teh fakeclaim is unlikley, but its certainly not 100% confirmed.

I don't get wtf you are even talking about. You think it is likely that mafia just decided to not use their most important role at all?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 13:01 GMT
#1145
On January 26 2018 21:38 justanothertownie wrote:
They shot Kelsier night 1 and DID NOT roleblock him. Noone else claimed the rb.
-> btdt is town unless they didn't use the rb at all


Smart.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 13:02 GMT
#1146
On January 26 2018 21:59 Mocsta wrote:
the fact that I think its OK to RB a separate target, to the Kill already supports there is more than one answer

you guys are bickering over your ideologies of how to play the game right

its stupid.

yes teh fakeclaim is unlikley, but its certainly not 100% confirmed.

In a way I agree, 100% is a way of saying it's past any reasonnable doubts. But in this case I really think it's near 100%. Because, put yourself in the place of the scumteam. They decide to fake a roleblock. Why wouldn't they use the roleblock on this kill target ? It's a free action that only has benefits; it's not like anybody is gonna notice it, since their kill target willl ... well, be killed; but if their kill target is a veteran or a vig, it's a net gain.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:04 GMT
#1147
On January 26 2018 22:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 21:59 Mocsta wrote:
the fact that I think its OK to RB a separate target, to the Kill already supports there is more than one answer

you guys are bickering over your ideologies of how to play the game right

its stupid.

yes teh fakeclaim is unlikley, but its certainly not 100% confirmed.

In a way I agree, 100% is a way of saying it's past any reasonnable doubts. But in this case I really think it's near 100%. Because, put yourself in the place of the scumteam. They decide to fake a roleblock. Why wouldn't they use the roleblock on this kill target ? It's a free action that only has benefits; it's not like anybody is gonna notice it, since their kill target willl ... well, be killed; but if their kill target is a veteran or a vig, it's a net gain.

Yep, and there is no way they planned it out like it happened which makes the rb claim extremely believable. The only alternative is that they forgot to rb which I think is highly unlikely but of course not impossible.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 26 2018 13:42 GMT
#1148
The other alternative was they were afraid a medic was out

Like this converdation is ridiculous

Id yoy want ro discuss strategy then weigh all options
Its the definition od tunneled and im glad at least rels can see it

Again
Ifnyou want ro say btdt 99% town go ahead. I tend to agree.

However btst is not 100% confirmed in amy way shape or form
Frankly ita disgraceful to perpetuate that type of non sense to people not reading this as analytically
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:43 GMT
#1149
On January 26 2018 22:42 Mocsta wrote:
The other alternative was they were afraid a medic was out

Like this converdation is ridiculous

Id yoy want ro discuss strategy then weigh all options
Its the definition od tunneled and im glad at least rels can see it

Again
Ifnyou want ro say btdt 99% town go ahead. I tend to agree.

However btst is not 100% confirmed in amy way shape or form
Frankly ita disgraceful to perpetuate that type of non sense to people not reading this as analytically

No, that is not an alternative since the rbed person would have claimed. How is this so hard to understand for you?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:46 GMT
#1150
It is very very simple.

Mafia either rbed btdt or they for whatever weird and unlikely reason DID NOT USE THEIR ROLEBLOCK AT ALL. Because any rbed townie would have claimed the rb.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 26 2018 13:46 GMT
#1151
Because your statement has an exclusion clause

By definition it is not "confirmed"

I dont give a shit anymore
Bye
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 26 2018 13:47 GMT
#1152
On January 26 2018 22:46 justanothertownie wrote:
It is very very simple.

Mafia either rbed btdt or they for whatever weird and unlikely reason DID NOT USE THEIR ROLEBLOCK AT ALL. Because any rbed townie would have claimed the rb.
precisely

You dont knoe

Yoy are making an educated assumption and feigning thid as a if you had a cop check
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:47 GMT
#1153
On January 26 2018 22:46 Mocsta wrote:
Because your statement has an exclusion clause

By definition it is not "confirmed"

I dont give a shit anymore
Bye

That's why I said "near confirmed". I do not understand why you are so against this. Or why you think this argument is the same that was made earlier since it very clearly isn't.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 26 2018 13:49 GMT
#1154
On January 26 2018 22:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 21:38 justanothertownie wrote:
They shot Kelsier night 1 and DID NOT roleblock him. Noone else claimed the rb.
-> btdt is town unless they didn't use the rb at all


Smart.

Bullshit

Btdt is town "unless"


Dont say near confirmed....
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:49 GMT
#1155
I never claimed "100% confirmed". That was Rels.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:50 GMT
#1156
Jesus Christ dude.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 26 2018 13:50 GMT
#1157
I give a shit about this because this type of thinking leads to a self fulfilling prophecy thay hf is lynched tomorrow

Everyone ahould be approaching this day with open eyes and ears
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:52 GMT
#1158
On January 26 2018 22:50 Mocsta wrote:
I give a shit about this because this type of thinking leads to a self fulfilling prophecy thay hf is lynched tomorrow

Everyone ahould be approaching this day with open eyes and ears

I fail to see how this has any relevance to the rb stuff.

It has nothing to do with HF at all. The only thing that I brought up is that unless you want to claim that mafia forgot their roleblock night 1 btdt is town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:53 GMT
#1159
And none of this will change anything about me approaching the day with open eyes since it is completely irrelevant for anything other than btdts alignment.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 26 2018 13:56 GMT
#1160
Ummm no

Open your eyes

In your mind you made a statement about in your words "neae confirmed"

Now one has openly interpretted as 100% confirmed and thenother indicates full agreement via "smart"

Ithink its relevant and will leave that as my last words.
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