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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:58 GMT
#1161
On January 26 2018 22:56 Mocsta wrote:
Ummm no

Open your eyes

In your mind you made a statement about in your words "neae confirmed"

Now one has openly interpretted as 100% confirmed and thenother indicates full agreement via "smart"

Ithink its relevant and will leave that as my last words.

Ok, I will just assume that you are completely shitfaced and unable to think properly right now. We will see what you think when you are sober. Have a nice holiday.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 13:58 GMT
#1162
Mocsta, if you think BTDT is 99% town, then we are all in agreement
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 13:59 GMT
#1163
On January 26 2018 22:58 Rels wrote:
Mocsta, if you think BTDT is 99% town, then we are all in agreement

Exactly.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 14:07 GMT
#1164
On January 26 2018 22:50 Mocsta wrote:
I give a shit about this because this type of thinking leads to a self fulfilling prophecy thay hf is lynched tomorrow

Everyone ahould be approaching this day with open eyes and ears


No it doesn't lol. It's an educated guess that has a higher than 80% chance of being correct. Mafia either didn't use their rb at all or rbd btdt. That's it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 14:17 GMT
#1165
D1!me was really good.
On January 20 2018 07:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
Damerion's first game comes closest to actually matching Holyflare's characterization. Extremely good reads there, mafia team call outs early. Still not the one at a time to exclusion of everyone else bit, but solid.

Lol it's funny rels cause my thought is I kind of want to lynch Damerion >> I just...why the fuck mischaracterize something so easy to check in hf's case?

no this doesn't prove anything, HF thinks this is true whatver alignment he is. But he's so focused on Damdred for something so minor. So sure. And then when Damdred comes and says BTDT is town, automatically they're a team. And then this whole pointless debate about him being at work, which goes nowhere. Just a pointless discussion in which he argues just to win the debate, just like he does as scum.


On January 20 2018 07:37 Rels wrote:
Yep I really hate all of these.
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.

What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.

Maybe I should be less active instead then?

HF you're spending so much time defending against this accusation. Nobody else gave a shit.
Then later:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.

Why are people voting df?

So you're fighting strongly for BTDT/Damdred to be lynched over DF but you have no idea why people scumread him. Makes no sense ot me.
Then later
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
I have read df's filter and I have determined he is not the lynch.

AT ALL.

I'm sticking my neck out and taking a stance.

Cool. Why ? But more importantly, it's super late compared to your strong stances about BTDT / Damdred in the posts above.
And this whole pointless explanation about how you didn't post before because you were working but now you can post is pointless.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 14:19 GMT
#1166
Of course you are.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 14:20 GMT
#1167
I'm beginning to think you might just actually be mafia you know. This is beyond normal levels of being obtuse.

After repeatedly asking you to do anything else because you're wrong on me you're just repeating the same things. You're also trying to buddy jat super hard.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 14:21 GMT
#1168
N1!Mocsta was also really good.
On January 20 2018 23:26 Mocsta wrote:
I shall illuminate my top 2 reads in further detail to connect how and more importantly why they are a scum pairing.
Please refer to my 4000 word case below.

Why is DF scum
Read DF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this....
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Why is HF scum
Read HF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this...
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



and...

wait for it.

[image loading]


Why does it work together
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 14:22 GMT
#1169
On January 26 2018 23:20 Holyflare wrote:
I'm beginning to think you might just actually be mafia you know. This is beyond normal levels of being obtuse.

After repeatedly asking you to do anything else because you're wrong on me you're just repeating the same things. You're also trying to buddy jat super hard.

Fight me bro.
And I'm doing something else. I'm rereading the entire game. And everything that I see conforts me in the sentiment I'm right.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 14:26 GMT
#1170
Ok well how about you read it with the sentiment that I'm not mafia and then come up with an alternative.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 14:26 GMT
#1171
On January 26 2018 23:20 Holyflare wrote:
After repeatedly asking you to do anything else because you're wrong on me you're just repeating the same things. You're also trying to buddy jat super hard.

Yes, he is. But I am not that easily buddied. Don't worry.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 14:27 GMT
#1172
On January 26 2018 23:26 Holyflare wrote:
Ok well how about you read it with the sentiment that I'm not mafia and then come up with an alternative.

how about you convince me someone is scummier than you are
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 14:31 GMT
#1173
I also have qualms with what you've posted. You criticise my damdred read repeatedly but also voted him at the end of the day (before switching) for the exact same reason. After he's already dead and you're talking about me you still can't get over how damdred spotted he used "like" a lot and what a coincidence it was.

So why did you say the damdred point was "so minor" to shit on me vut simultaneously believe in it and can't get over it?

Furthermore, me shit fighting about work and pointless discussions for the sake of it does not make me mafia. Much like trying to discuss my thought processes with you isn't pointless. People at the time (rsoultin) were trending towards scum reading me for really bad points and if I see something wrong that discredits me needlessly for an easily provable truth then I will fight it till I'm blue in the face or that person changes their mind. That's just my personality.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 14:35 GMT
#1174
On January 26 2018 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
I also have qualms with what you've posted. You criticise my damdred read repeatedly but also voted him at the end of the day (before switching) for the exact same reason. After he's already dead and you're talking about me you still can't get over how damdred spotted he used "like" a lot and what a coincidence it was.

So why did you say the damdred point was "so minor" to shit on me vut simultaneously believe in it and can't get over it?

Furthermore, me shit fighting about work and pointless discussions for the sake of it does not make me mafia. Much like trying to discuss my thought processes with you isn't pointless. People at the time (rsoultin) were trending towards scum reading me for really bad points and if I see something wrong that discredits me needlessly for an easily provable truth then I will fight it till I'm blue in the face or that person changes their mind. That's just my personality.

The problem is you getting lost in a pointless debate, not your reason to scumread Damdred. That's why I quoted these two posts above. And it does make you mafia more often than not.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 14:53 GMT
#1175
Why is it a pointless debate when somebody is using it to call me mafia? That's the opposite of pointless, it's a defence. My biggest weakness.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 14:55 GMT
#1176
Finished my rereading. Didn't change my mind, on the contrary I actually was reminded about how HF only pushed mafia objectives the entire game. Which by itself doesn' tmake him scum, he could juts be a wrong townie; the whole thing between him and Damerion during N3 is still the biggest pointer that he's scum. But it doesn't help its case when you know he's usually a very strong town player, and other strong players confirmed town this game (KSC, rsoul) saw the game very differently.

@HF yes I'm convinced you're scum. But contrary to what you're insinuating, I always reconsider, no matter how sure I feel - see EOD1 for example. So start playing if you want to change my mind. Whining that you'll be the lynch and that everybody is tunneled doesn't advance the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 14:56 GMT
#1177
Are you that fucking tunnelled that you think I'm posting nothing but whining? The entire time I've been telling you to do other stuff and pointing out kmatt while you yell absurdities about how good you're being.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 14:58 GMT
#1178
On January 26 2018 23:56 Holyflare wrote:
Are you that fucking tunnelled that you think I'm posting nothing but whining? The entire time I've been telling you to do other stuff and pointing out kmatt while you yell absurdities about how good you're being.

stop whining
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 26 2018 14:58 GMT
#1179
On January 26 2018 23:56 Holyflare wrote:
Are you that fucking tunnelled that you think I'm posting nothing but whining? The entire time I've been telling you to do other stuff and pointing out kmatt while you yell absurdities about how good you're being.

No, he is right. Yes, you posted some stuff about Kmatt (really low-hanging fruit if town btw.). But since then you only complained. This whole discussion is pointless.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 26 2018 15:03 GMT
#1180
Ok, let's hypothetically say I'm not mafia. Who is mafia now then? Low hanging fruit analogy is bull shit when it's not btdt who already looked fine, it's not likely twat/jat because they looked fine at the beginning of the game (yes, I said they might be mafia this cycle but ignore that) it's probably not rels. So that leaves mocsta, who was my scum read or kmatt who has become my scum read.

I looked into kmatt, I found a lot of inconsistencies and points that were strange and made a case. His filter is really small and full of just posting for literally the sake of posting pretty much +1ing or being contradictory to a main wagon. He has no scum reads, he scum read a town read and that's about it.
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