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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:27 GMT
#1201
On January 25 2018 04:34 Kmatt wrote:
Personally an uncontested cop claim warrants reconsideration, but I seem to be alone in that regard.


On January 25 2018 02:36 Kmatt wrote:
I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches.


On January 25 2018 03:45 Kmatt wrote:
lmao no. If I see a counterclaim of any other blue I would hang him on the spot. The fact that no townie is taking an easy 1-for-1 tells me that he wasn't bullshitting.


uh oh
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 26 2018 16:27 GMT
#1202
On January 27 2018 01:23 beentheredonethat wrote:
I think Mafia doesn't know the exact setup.

If they know that a veteran is in, they'd stack roleblocks with KP. The fact that I got roleblocked twice pretty much means that someone in the scum team thought I'm playing so super low volume because I'm a blue.

Now that's a nice thing to know but it doesn't help in the slightest. I do realize that I'm going to be dead soon tho because, well, I'm confirmed town.

Let's just say I would be very surprised if you died anytime soon.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 26 2018 16:28 GMT
#1203
On January 27 2018 01:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
the thing is that if Rels is so tunneled on someone, it always ends up a guy being town and then Rels flips town when he gets lynched in lylo for whatever weird reason. So we're gonna lose this game because of this nightkill, a holyflare mislynch into a Rels mislynch.

Yes, because things that happened always have to happen in the same way again. Solid logic.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:29 GMT
#1204
On January 24 2018 15:06 Kmatt wrote:
Beyond that I'm willing to accept Damerion's claim(s), which puts the remaining potential townies at Mocsta/Rels/HF/Mderg. Rels is on the nice list, as is Mderg. HF is still HF, but he's certainly not my vote today. Mocsta is more null to me. A lot of text but nothing stands out to say "This guy is town". Cop checks are a bit more reliable than my gut, so until we get into a 4-way cop claim-off I'll let him slide.


Wait. I am not on that list because he accepts Damerion's claim and lists me as town.

On January 25 2018 02:36 Kmatt wrote:
I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches.


And no 24 hours later, he says "I don't like lynching [the Cop with the greencheck on BTDT] I'd prefer BTDT".
It's not possible to want to lynch me if he truely believes Damerion is the cop.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:30 GMT
#1205
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 26 2018 16:31 GMT
#1206
On January 27 2018 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."

That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:32 GMT
#1207
So that only works if he thinks I'm the godfather but for some reason, he didn't have this thought before. Why did he not have this thought before? Because it's vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb, he's a goon and he's not aware that town isn't aware of the scum roles.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:32 GMT
#1208
On January 27 2018 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."

That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather.

There shouldn't be a godfather in. Vig/Cop are both investigative. I'm locked on vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 26 2018 16:33 GMT
#1209
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
So that only works if he thinks I'm the godfather but for some reason, he didn't have this thought before. Why did he not have this thought before? Because it's vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb, he's a goon and he's not aware that town isn't aware of the scum roles.

Seems incredibly far fetched.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:33 GMT
#1210
A team of Kmatt, Damerion and darthfoley is perfectly capable to RB me twice in a row, too.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:33 GMT
#1211
On January 27 2018 01:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
So that only works if he thinks I'm the godfather but for some reason, he didn't have this thought before. Why did he not have this thought before? Because it's vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb, he's a goon and he's not aware that town isn't aware of the scum roles.

Seems incredibly far fetched.

whoa u think so? I think it's actually a decent thought. Makes sense to me. What's your preference?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 26 2018 16:34 GMT
#1212
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."

That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather.

There shouldn't be a godfather in. Vig/Cop are both investigative. I'm locked on vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb.

Sure, but if Kmatt is town he thought there was a cop and then a godfather is almost guaranteed.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:34 GMT
#1213
On January 27 2018 01:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."

That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather.

There shouldn't be a godfather in. Vig/Cop are both investigative. I'm locked on vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb.

Sure, but if Kmatt is town he thought there was a cop and then a godfather is almost guaranteed.

Why is a godfather guaranteed because a town player that does not know the setup thinks a cop is in?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 26 2018 16:35 GMT
#1214
On January 27 2018 01:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
So that only works if he thinks I'm the godfather but for some reason, he didn't have this thought before. Why did he not have this thought before? Because it's vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb, he's a goon and he's not aware that town isn't aware of the scum roles.

Seems incredibly far fetched.

whoa u think so? I think it's actually a decent thought. Makes sense to me. What's your preference?

I am not talking about the setup. Only about your explanation of his thought process.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:35 GMT
#1215
genuine question, am I missing something?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:35 GMT
#1216
On January 27 2018 01:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
So that only works if he thinks I'm the godfather but for some reason, he didn't have this thought before. Why did he not have this thought before? Because it's vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb, he's a goon and he's not aware that town isn't aware of the scum roles.

Seems incredibly far fetched.

whoa u think so? I think it's actually a decent thought. Makes sense to me. What's your preference?

I am not talking about the setup. Only about your explanation of his thought process.

I guess you're entitled to your opinion
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 26 2018 16:36 GMT
#1217
On January 27 2018 01:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."

That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather.

There shouldn't be a godfather in. Vig/Cop are both investigative. I'm locked on vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb.

Sure, but if Kmatt is town he thought there was a cop and then a godfather is almost guaranteed.

Why is a godfather guaranteed because a town player that does not know the setup thinks a cop is in?

Dude, come on.

We are talking about Kmatts thought process if he is town.
He believes Damerion is real. That means there is a cop in the game (in his world). That also means there is very likely a godfather to counter the cop. That means it is not scummy for him to not trust the green checks.

fin
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 26 2018 16:37 GMT
#1218
Obviously there is no cop in this game but town!Kmatt did not know that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 16:39 GMT
#1219
On January 27 2018 01:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 04:34 Kmatt wrote:
Personally an uncontested cop claim warrants reconsideration, but I seem to be alone in that regard.


Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 02:36 Kmatt wrote:
I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches.


Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 03:45 Kmatt wrote:
lmao no. If I see a counterclaim of any other blue I would hang him on the spot. The fact that no townie is taking an easy 1-for-1 tells me that he wasn't bullshitting.


uh oh


He's you 6 games ago.

But mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 16:40 GMT
#1220
On January 27 2018 01:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
the thing is that if Rels is so tunneled on someone, it always ends up a guy being town and then Rels flips town when he gets lynched in lylo for whatever weird reason. So we're gonna lose this game because of this nightkill, a holyflare mislynch into a Rels mislynch.

that's pretty wrong actually. That happened, but more often than not late game I'm tunneling a scum. Sometimes he gets lynched sometimes I get lynched. My play gets better the farther we advance in the game .
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