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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 15:05 GMT
#1181
I made a case on him and you said I'm mafia instead and he's left the thread after now just calling me weird and there's not much else to do.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 26 2018 15:06 GMT
#1182
On January 27 2018 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, let's hypothetically say I'm not mafia. Who is mafia now then? Low hanging fruit analogy is bull shit when it's not btdt who already looked fine, it's not likely twat/jat because they looked fine at the beginning of the game (yes, I said they might be mafia this cycle but ignore that) it's probably not rels. So that leaves mocsta, who was my scum read or kmatt who has become my scum read.

I looked into kmatt, I found a lot of inconsistencies and points that were strange and made a case. His filter is really small and full of just posting for literally the sake of posting pretty much +1ing or being contradictory to a main wagon. He has no scum reads, he scum read a town read and that's about it.

If it wasn't you I would first start to look into Kmatt and Mderg probably. Rels is possible but I won't consider that before LYLO (if I survive that long that is). Mocsta seemed pretty towny and involved so far so same. Btdt is definitely off the table before LYLO too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 26 2018 15:08 GMT
#1183
So either make a better case on Kmatt, or good cases on why the rest (including you) is town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 26 2018 15:09 GMT
#1184
All of these reads are subject to reevaluation due to a good case of course.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 15:09 GMT
#1185
Hard pass. I'm not old hf. Only reason I can post today is because work is slacking but even then I can't do that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 26 2018 15:10 GMT
#1186
You have a lot of time before the next lynch. I am sure you can manage to provide something until then.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 26 2018 15:11 GMT
#1187
If I am alive I will reevaluate. If I am not it doesn't matter anyways.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 15:14 GMT
#1188
On January 27 2018 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, let's hypothetically say I'm not mafia. Who is mafia now then? Low hanging fruit analogy is bull shit when it's not btdt who already looked fine, it's not likely twat/jat because they looked fine at the beginning of the game (yes, I said they might be mafia this cycle but ignore that) it's probably not rels. So that leaves mocsta, who was my scum read or kmatt who has become my scum read.

I looked into kmatt, I found a lot of inconsistencies and points that were strange and made a case. His filter is really small and full of just posting for literally the sake of posting pretty much +1ing or being contradictory to a main wagon. He has no scum reads, he scum read a town read and that's about it.

I don't like this type of question 'cause if I'm sure you're scum, it's also because I have reasons to townread everyone else. If you're not scum, the obvious answer is Kmatt, but more by default and 'cause I have stronger reasons to townread anyone else than him. But he looks more like low-activity town than scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 15:14 GMT
#1189
On January 27 2018 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
Hard pass. I'm not old hf. Only reason I can post today is because work is slacking but even then I can't do that.

Next day is during weekend.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 15:18 GMT
#1190
On January 27 2018 00:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, let's hypothetically say I'm not mafia. Who is mafia now then? Low hanging fruit analogy is bull shit when it's not btdt who already looked fine, it's not likely twat/jat because they looked fine at the beginning of the game (yes, I said they might be mafia this cycle but ignore that) it's probably not rels. So that leaves mocsta, who was my scum read or kmatt who has become my scum read.

I looked into kmatt, I found a lot of inconsistencies and points that were strange and made a case. His filter is really small and full of just posting for literally the sake of posting pretty much +1ing or being contradictory to a main wagon. He has no scum reads, he scum read a town read and that's about it.

I don't like this type of question 'cause if I'm sure you're scum, it's also because I have reasons to townread everyone else. If you're not scum, the obvious answer is Kmatt, but more by default and 'cause I have stronger reasons to townread anyone else than him. But he looks more like low-activity town than scum.


What are your reasons to town read mderg, mocsta and kmatt?

I feel like you're lying and you don't have reasons to town read some of them but you're so far gone you don't see another conclusion.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 15:18 GMT
#1191
On January 27 2018 00:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
Hard pass. I'm not old hf. Only reason I can post today is because work is slacking but even then I can't do that.

Next day is during weekend.


I'm not here on weekends, you crazy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 15:19 GMT
#1192
I might be. I'll try to be but don't count on it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 15:23 GMT
#1193
On January 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 00:14 Rels wrote:
On January 27 2018 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, let's hypothetically say I'm not mafia. Who is mafia now then? Low hanging fruit analogy is bull shit when it's not btdt who already looked fine, it's not likely twat/jat because they looked fine at the beginning of the game (yes, I said they might be mafia this cycle but ignore that) it's probably not rels. So that leaves mocsta, who was my scum read or kmatt who has become my scum read.

I looked into kmatt, I found a lot of inconsistencies and points that were strange and made a case. His filter is really small and full of just posting for literally the sake of posting pretty much +1ing or being contradictory to a main wagon. He has no scum reads, he scum read a town read and that's about it.

I don't like this type of question 'cause if I'm sure you're scum, it's also because I have reasons to townread everyone else. If you're not scum, the obvious answer is Kmatt, but more by default and 'cause I have stronger reasons to townread anyone else than him. But he looks more like low-activity town than scum.


What are your reasons to town read mderg, mocsta and kmatt?

I feel like you're lying and you don't have reasons to town read some of them but you're so far gone you don't see another conclusion.

I will do a last will post before deadline where I explain all these reads before I'm dead. The short versions are:
- mderg has some very intelligent post early in the game, in particular calling you and Damerion out.
- Mocsta has some very unlikely interaction with DF if they were partners.
- And given how low-impact Kmatt seems to be as a player, I don't see him going against the thread's consensus and try to save his partner Damerion during D3.
The details will arrive when I'm home.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:17 GMT
#1194
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 16:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
My suggestion is the following: lynch Holyflare. Should he flip town, let's lynch whoever he scumread.
not a good idea

Game is potentially lylo with a mislynch next cycle

Just because a town holyflare scum reads someone. Doesnt mean they are scum

Frankly i prefer kmatt as a lynch to holyflare


I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy.

Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

Further. I havent been convinced that the stuff hf and me picked out aboit kmatt is non scummy

Okay, so "Do not auto lynch the scumread of Holyflare even if HF is town because he might be wrong" makes sense. But Kmatt is exactly the person HF wants to lynch.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:20 GMT
#1195
the thing is that if Rels is so tunneled on someone, it always ends up a guy being town and then Rels flips town when he gets lynched in lylo for whatever weird reason. So we're gonna lose this game because of this nightkill, a holyflare mislynch into a Rels mislynch.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:23 GMT
#1196
I think Mafia doesn't know the exact setup.

If they know that a veteran is in, they'd stack roleblocks with KP. The fact that I got roleblocked twice pretty much means that someone in the scum team thought I'm playing so super low volume because I'm a blue.

Now that's a nice thing to know but it doesn't help in the slightest. I do realize that I'm going to be dead soon tho because, well, I'm confirmed town.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 16:25 GMT
#1197
I would without a doubt direct the team to rb whoever we kill and then get my team to claim rb when they need to. If I didn't read the op. If I read the op I would rb who we kill and then get my team to claim rb.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:25 GMT
#1198
Rels you'll hate me for this
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:26 GMT
#1199
On January 27 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
I would without a doubt direct the team to rb whoever we kill and then get my team to claim rb when they need to. If I didn't read the op. If I read the op I would rb who we kill and then get my team to claim rb.

Yeah that's exactly what I thought

You'd never wtf the roleblocker twice in a row on afk and mod warned btdt.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 26 2018 16:26 GMT
#1200
And HF's case on Kmatt is still solid
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
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