[T] MS Paint-Off Mafia

On August 14 2017 07:22 Tumblewood wrote:

nope. so no one else is allowed to either

On August 14 2017 06:49 ritoky wrote:
normally i like people who tell other people to go fuck themselves in the face of pressure and find it to be a town trait. but jealous consciously took the time to write his name in green on his shirt. i feel like taking the time to consciously communicate your alignment color via color in a drawing wouldn't be at the forefront of the mind of a townie. so he is whatever mafia is called this game.

On August 14 2017 06:52 ritoky wrote:
he is kinda funny tho, but then he said kappa and ruined it all.

On August 14 2017 23:34 geript wrote:

I can understand the Jealous read. I don't really like it; part of which was probably because he was calling me scum. But mostly because it's such an inconsequential thing. IIRC, his argument is that I'm scum because I want the judges to risk scum getting items in order to say "This guy is scum" when they could convey that through how they order the lists. It's just an easy nonsense argument to fight against as any alignment; especially since he didn't even bother to rationalize his argument in light of Artanis shooting down my plan.

On August 15 2017 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
Town tw doesn't give a shit what people think and just posts town and scum reads freely

On August 15 2017 00:25 geript wrote: Last game you (Town TW) just thought whatever stupid shit you thought.

On August 15 2017 00:16 Tumblewood wrote:

i have "poopoo'd" 1 read. literally i have less than 10 posts in a ridiculously inactive d1. and you may have noticed that all the ones today have not been as you described. so um stop looking for excuses to attack me?

On August 15 2017 00:16 Tumblewood wrote: so um stop looking for excuses to attack me?

On August 14 2017 14:24 Tumblewood wrote:
tempted to call everyone who posted in the last 2 hours town. partially for the posting and partially for the posts, if that makes sense.

On August 15 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote:
Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk?

TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post.

On August 15 2017 00:11 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe you don't want or aren't able to post the analysis? dunno bout you but in my experience town have enough motivation to do it plenty of the time.
and then what would be the motivation for scum trying to look like town?

On August 15 2017 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:

Why isn't rayn part of that circle?

On August 15 2017 04:39 Hopeless1der wrote:



btw this is super nitpicky, but I found the phrasing of this weird since at the time, 1/2 posts was literally my /in to the game.

On August 16 2017 00:51 Hopeless1der wrote:

He's literally posted lists of his reads/reasons in paint format. If you are actually that high strung to refuse to read his posts because they're images then you can go right to hell rayn.

On August 16 2017 02:37 Jealous wrote:

Rayn was on the scumlean list for other reasons initially and my recollection of him sheeping geript did not have any impact on that because that is slight town lean or NAI in my book. When I looked back as a result of H1's post, I noted that it was rayn that had a plan (even though it wouldn't work) so I took him off my list, but it was geript who fixed it and made it plausible within the confines of the game, which to me shows enough initiative to keep him as a town read, at least until further developments. In effect, neither person sheeped the other completely - they collaborated to make what would have been a solid plan. Rayn's continual focus on this point strikes me as desperate smearing after a history of not even bothering to read the thread and consider why the judges and others see me as town.

In short, moron.

PS: In lecture, no art supplies T_T;

On August 16 2017 04:51 Jealous wrote:

I asked you to filter Damdred, why ignore my request as well?

On August 15 2017 22:19 CopCake wrote:

Rels was mafia with HF last game. Would be odd if both of them are mafia again

On August 16 2017 05:19 Jealous wrote:

Hm. I would think that emotional and random would actually be NAI as it's not hard to do nothing but defend yourself from accurate judgments of your subpar posting.

On August 16 2017 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
I've received 1 vig bullet and I've already used it on rayn so please vote between FF and hopeless.

On August 16 2017 05:36 Jealous wrote:

Pretty much this. More or less a failure to play the game.

On August 16 2017 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
I've received 1 vig bullet and I've already used it on rayn so please vote between FF and hopeless.

On August 16 2017 05:53 Holyflare wrote:
She convinced you?

Your whole point was that you hated she forgot her read and it's crap.

That didn't change??? What made her convince you?

On August 16 2017 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Good job idiot. You just made me do nothing and shot town. ggnore.
I am sad you were town, hopefully you can do some-fucking-thing after.
bye. go figure who is mafia.

On August 16 2017 11:30 Jealous wrote:

Finishing a paper and preparing to study for an exam I have tomorrow. I might have to put off any megaposts about FF and H1 until after I finish doing those things. I will make brief summaries though.

On August 16 2017 13:00 Jealous wrote:
In* that was the perfect time for autocorrect to fuck me.

On August 17 2017 00:27 Hopeless1der wrote:

What's your point? You asked jealous if hes from russia.

On August 17 2017 00:39 Jealous wrote:
Quick catch-up post:

1. @conversion: Cop couldn't be in the lynch pool, please familiarize yourself with the game because this was a major point in the early hours of phase 1 to the point where Artanis had to step in.

2. @HF: Looking at your progression throughout the game through memory, it looks a lot like this: spend the majority of your time antagonizing rayn which becomes the main topic of conversation for many hours and gets heated and likely contributed to him being in the lynch pool, throw in some okayish reads on other people but don't discuss them much (until recently), then claim to have vig shot and to have shot rayn while also claiming that he is townlock which effectively "made him quit" and ushered in a decent period of silence from everyone, then come back and judge people for still voting for rayn. There are different ways to interpret this:

1. That you were in fact in the heat of the moment and kicked in the door guns blazing and have cooled off, and that Artanis' post does in your mind town lock rayn, and that you genuinely do think the vote should be on one of FF/H1.

2. You almost singlehandedly sparked into motion a series of events which led to approximately 36 hours of almost no one doing anything not - rayn related, or at least not close to what it would be if you hadn't launched your endless assault. Then you tell people to not vote rayn.

I can see 1. I can also kinda see 2, but if the ends is confirming one town (in your mind) and simultaneously killing their motivation to play, I don't know how much I like that. My wariness is rising and I'm not going to take my vote off rayn just because you said so. I want to see this chapter closed and see what the outcome is without a doubt so that there are no lingering questions. It would be a marvelous scum performance if it was MvM, perhaps overplayed but I can't let the possibility of that go. Ultimately, while I don't think the judges are infallible, they did nominate rayn so as you said earlier, I feel justified.

Also, heavy misrepresentation on your part when you say I have all 50/50 reads. I said that H1 and geript are hard town for me. I said that Damdred is scum lean. I said that rayn townlean. Please no misrep. Also curious how I moved down your list in towniness with no input on my part, after you said that my vote for you was the "towniest thing ever" but I can understand the wifom involved in that as well (I was curious why no one other than you said anything about it and you viewed it so purely positively... that's a topic for another discussion. For the record I just couldn't risk it going to CopCake).

3.@geript: Thank you!

On August 17 2017 00:43 Jealous wrote:

You have to be pushing the game forward of your own volition, not merely sitting and waiting for people to notice you and ask you questions. Maybe then people will say that you have done something, or you could have a better filter to fall back on. Simply sitting back, only providing the minimum asked, and claiming to be forgetful while not looking at filters are all bad play if not at least slightly scummy.

On August 17 2017 11:03 Jealous wrote:
I just had the thought that HF pretty much has to be town. Follow me here:

HF gets the power role and claims he got the vig shot. If the judges didn't in fact give him the vig shot, would they not show this by not nominating him for the next PR cycle and then putting him in the scum bucket after that? It would be the clearest indication that HF is lying and deceiving everyone.

The only fault with this logic that I can see is that HF could be drawing attention to himself for having the vig shot intentionally, so that judges can award it to someone else who would potentially be free from scrutiny I guess? That would be an interesting play as well; but one that could only be done from a town persective imo.

Am I completely off base here?

On August 17 2017 11:08 geript wrote:
Like you just gotta accept that HF is a liar regardless of his alignment. You have to read him on what he's trying to do; like what his goal this game is. Who he pushes is kinda relevant, but it's also what he lets go of.

On August 17 2017 12:50 Jealous wrote:

Did you just quote yourself and QFT? Lol. There's a first for everything xD Not a dig on you or anything, just thought it was humorous.

I don't see how it is irrelevant. Can you explain how that could be the case?

On August 17 2017 13:10 Jealous wrote:

I see but... wouldn't that be dumb of scum!HF? Or are you saying that because he does this so consistently, that we should just ignore it? In which case, why would anyone set such a precedent - just to have a better scum game in future games? That's deep.

On August 17 2017 13:53 Jealous wrote:
Conclusion: I do agree with a lot of geript's analysis; I will have to revisit my H1 read to see how much I can agree with the universe that is being created as a result, if I understood it correctly. Perhaps geript can clarify for me if my analysis of her argument is correct. I did have a strong H1 town read, but that was quite some time ago; however, I don't recall seeing anything scummy from H1 recently.

In short: Potentially plausible, need more feedback to be sure and need to do more research in the morning to confirm.

On August 16 2017 05:39 Jealous wrote:
Parking on rayn until I look at FF's filter later tonight. Definitely not voting for H1 but I guess I will have to do my due diligence and look at his filter too; even though he's one of my hard town reads, that kind of false confidence and unwillingness to read filters is exactly what makes people play bad.

On August 16 2017 11:18 CopCake wrote:
I know the Euro people are sleeping but where are the american pride people?

On August 18 2017 01:18 Jealous wrote:
What a shit show. I expected more from you H1. Rayn, not so much, but still.

On August 15 2017 09:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
@conversion:

You're quick to call me out, but did you stop to wonder why I asked FF about his read? As far as I can tell, no you did not. What gives?

On August 15 2017 21:45 Conversion wrote:


OK why you would shoot me instead of lynching me is beyond me but waste your vig gun on a town for all I care

On August 16 2017 21:21 geript wrote:
@Conversion. Start with this post from Hopeless and tell me what sticks out and why.

On August 15 2017 05:00 Hopeless1der wrote:

I never said I believed it was true, just more likely than the other thing

On August 19 2017 07:28 Jealous wrote:

Yep

On August 19 2017 07:06 Jealous wrote:

Please stop with the misrep, it's getting comical.

Answer to all your other questions was in my filter, as you said, but since you have this misrep tendency I quoted them for you as well as answered your query here.

Does no one else see this crap?

Conversion: why didn't you do what you promised
- it's in the filter -
Converstion: why did you park on rayn
- it's in the filter -
Conversion: show me where I do this latch on behavior and don't read filters while cherry picking
- make detailed posts with self-contained examples throughout the majority of the game -
Conversion: wow way to make a post explaining why you scum lean me instead of answering my questions. Jealous posting is really suspect.

?????

Looooolllll I'm done

On August 19 2017 08:26 Jealous wrote:
Why is pointing out multiple instances of Conversion misrepping not "interesting?"

I said that I found some of his posts scummy, which you can see in my filter analysis image on him. I also said that I found the circumstances surrounding rayn to be more suspicious than FF or H1, which I referenced in the post explaining why I am parking on rayn.

On August 19 2017 18:39 Jealous wrote:

Rels ain't done shit.

On August 19 2017 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That's not what i said.

I said you made a leap on logic you are unwilling to explain. If you don't believe me, go read what i said again.

On August 20 2017 04:41 Conversion wrote:
also I still don't like Rels' posts. like why couldn't he just do this 2 days ago and why is he doing it now?

On August 21 2017 16:32 Jealous wrote:

I did everything I could fam.

On August 22 2017 05:00 geript wrote:

My only guess is because they like your jealous push and think he's scum? I really don't know.

I think I'd honestly prefer nomination mafia to this setup.

On August 22 2017 05:03 Conversion wrote:


I meant that the overall thread was doing nothing

like we just let people AFK and yell at each other

You're right, shenanigans never happen in TL Mafia games, what was I thinking trying to put up a safety net like that. Definitely more likely that I'm scum who just didn't bother to gain votes when it was 4/4/4. Just had to make sure that my scumbuddy got the PR and not me because... wait... HF, explain that one to me again?

On August 21 2017 20:56 Jealous wrote:
It was 4-4-4 shortly before it became 3-5-4. That's what reminded me about the possibility of shenanigans in the first place. If people are going to be jumping ship then it could very easily happen in the last minute so rayn putting so MUCH EMPHASIS on the TIMING is just silly. If I could have a vote typed in and press enter in the last minute, so could one other person switching from me to Cop or from HF to Cop. Didn't want to chance that. Thanks for saying I don't answer any questions at all as a supporting element to your exasperation though, par for the course given your earlier posting habits.

On August 21 2017 05:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Q&A With McKenzie Westmore

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If people are nominated for top Town, can they not be nominated for bottom Town?
The judges may choose to nominate the best and the worst contestant as they see fit. If an early favourite falls off in the following hours, the judges may choose to nominate this contestant as one of the worst contestants as well.

On August 22 2017 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's kinda alarming that the only person who realized this is ritoky (idk, Conversion maybe too). Even the judges couldn't figure out this is not how townies should act.