EPTOn August 19 2017 01:29 Tumblewood wrote:
i'm just saying how it works, not how it should work
i'm just saying how it works, not how it should work
What reads hopeless have had besides asking for a gun to shot you?
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CopCake
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What reads hopeless have had besides asking for a gun to shot you? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On August 19 2017 01:49 CopCake wrote: I believe both of you are scum, not just jelaous. your belief that I'm scum seems like its 95% driven by your read of jealous. Am I mistaken? Do you have 50 posts about me being scum independent of my connection to another person in the game who remains not flipped? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On August 19 2017 01:49 CopCake wrote: What reads hopeless have had besides asking for a gun to shot you? So you can read Jealous' filter but not mine. Got it. Never mind that I'm totes scum because of Jealous' filter. My own gameplay this game has no bearing on my being scum. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
It's not satisfying to lynch him. Shot will do. | ||
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CopCake
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Lmao guys seriously this is too mafia "Look at me I am too town I want to kill TW" | ||
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CopCake
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On August 19 2017 01:51 Hopeless1der wrote: your belief that I'm scum seems like its 95% driven by your read of jealous. Am I mistaken? Do you have 50 posts about me being scum independent of my connection to another person in the game who remains not flipped? I already had a read on you as scum before I did the Jelaous thing. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Day 2 Best Artists geript (1): geript Holyflare (3): Holyflare, Hopeless1der, raynpelikoneet CopCake (2): Tumblewood, Rels Not Voting (5): ritoky, Jealous, CopCake, Conversion, Eversince In Holyflare is set to receive the judges' powerup. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On August 19 2017 01:55 CopCake wrote: Lmao guys seriously this is too mafia "Look at me I am too town I want to kill TW" Copcake, do you think Tumblewood is scum? | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 19 2017 02:12 Hopeless1der wrote: Copcake, do you think Tumblewood is scum? Yes, Geript made a good point but just because one was found doesnt mean I have to tunnel that, I have to look for more. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On August 19 2017 02:14 CopCake wrote: Yes, Geript made a good point but just because one was found doesnt mean I have to tunnel that, I have to look for more. Yeah but feel free to use a mutual scum read to tunnel me though. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On August 19 2017 01:06 Conversion wrote: any thoughts on the flip? if you're even around i was wrong. but i don't think his filter was typical town damdred filter i remember, so i feel justified in my read. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 19 2017 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote: Yeah but feel free to use a mutual scum read to tunnel me though. Tell me why are you town | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
honestly my strongest reason is I have one of the longest filters in the game. I know it's a huge amount of shitposting but in all honesty if you can find a game where I ever had this big a filter (as either faction) I'll eat my hat. And it's barely passed day 1. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On August 19 2017 01:54 Holyflare wrote: It's not satisfying to lynch him. Shot will do. quoted for posterity in my filter. this is a moment i need to remember. | ||
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ritoky
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Jealous
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Original argument: Conversion doesn't read full filters, finds something to latch onto, publishes it as if it's fact. Conversion's counterargument: prove it bish I only talked to you like 2 times lmao My response: I wasn't talking just about myself. Here we go On August 15 2017 09:13 Conversion wrote: hopeless can you actually give solid reads instead of asking people for theirs? "lol afk lazy scum" isn't much to go off of also explain your vote too since you seem to be keen on asking fecalfeast on why he's voting for x This is #558 ^ + Show Spoiler [#369] + On August 15 2017 02:27 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm not subscribed to the idea that one's alignment affects the other's, just in case it wasn't clear, but TW is scum and rayn is town to me. + Show Spoiler [#411] + On August 15 2017 04:37 Hopeless1der wrote: @HF rayn's (lack of a) read on cake is mildly concerning, but his logic that TW should have a read isnt hypocritical to me since TW entered into a discussion/argument and exited with nothing to show for it. For example, TW's entire time arguing with you about rayn was reading like he knew something he shouldnt and I think hes scum for it. There was nothing close to that with his interaction with cake. If I was going to draw alignment conclusion based on interactions so far, I'd say cake and TW are scum together is more likely than TW <OR> rayn are scum (and the other is town) + Show Spoiler [#509] + On August 15 2017 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote: welp lets get things off to a terrible start: rayn - Townish ritoky - null geript - townish damdred - scummish tumblewood - scum fecalfeast - scummish conversion scummish onegu - lurker rels - lurker hopeless - uhh..town? On August 15 2017 09:54 Conversion wrote: you asked him about his vote you voted for jealous without explaining your vote why shouldn't you be held to the same standard you want to hold FF ? what gives This is #573. + Show Spoiler [#456] + On August 15 2017 05:41 Hopeless1der wrote: I was about to say geript lol.. I'm voting jealous. I dont trust HF yet and cake just pulled some shit at the end of the day there. I feel like having legit drawings was a requirement at this point. On August 15 2017 21:56 Conversion wrote: also this is really bullshit first of all you don't even have the gun, nor are you guaranteed to get it. so don't make shitty threats second of all, this is the exact sort of trigger happiness that fucks town over. like why would you waste a bullet on me when I'm actually giving you information enough to read me? I'm interacting with your and HF's points, instead of waving them away like you like you can't be this bad? if I'm scum keep pushing me and make me slip or make me seem scummy and get a free lynch on me This is #682. "instead of waving them away like you" + Show Spoiler [#482] + On August 15 2017 06:12 Hopeless1der wrote: Look, I realize you're salty but dont pull that WIFOM crap right now. TW was townreading jealous from before the contest and now has omgus to prevent him from voting cake. Obviously he hates you. + Show Spoiler [#495] + On August 15 2017 06:30 Hopeless1der wrote: Yeah that is a decent plan, but I'm banking on the mindgames part of things where someone can either doc you or vest themselves or copcheck someone and get us a 100% guaranteed check. I feel like the blue HAS to be shot, but if you win HF, you'll just vest and they shoot someone else and the game is vanilla like you wanted. If Jealous (or you know, not HF) gets it, there's a reasonable chance that we get a blue role to actually do work for us, depending on the R-P-S part of it. After judging H1 for asking people about their reads and not posting his own (which was untrue), Conversion goes on to do pretty much the same thing here while only submitting one scum read on H1 and one free null on rayn here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?user=Conversion&page=3 Here's some more: On August 16 2017 22:27 Conversion wrote: I mean.. nothing really sticks out to me aside from the post you linked. I actually like the post he linked because he's reading and making conjectures based on what he read... but he doesn't follow up on it. like this was where he could have pushed cop for something. if TW + cop is more likely to be mafia, why not press her for information so you can get a better read on her? cop even makes a big post and he just sort of drops the pressure after calling her out for using misremembering as an excuse I'm not going to go much deeper in the thread-- it just cements the idea that he's done nothing really remarkable and doesn't seem like he's trying to clear up his possible scum scenarios This is #1279 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?user=Hopeless1der&page=6 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=42 As you can see H1 and HF actually did pressure CopCake until she got to the point of what looks like an emotional breakdown and stopped answering him, which is shitty play on her part but that's a separate issue. I could go on with this, but this is enough for your H1 misreps for now. People already think I have a hard-on for him, when really he is just my townlean at the moment. It's not my fault that Conversion targeted H1 almost exclusively for the first few pages of his filter. Just as an aside, this is an interesting interaction: + Show Spoiler [Conversion x Rayn] + On August 15 2017 22:09 Conversion wrote: my read on rayn is null b/c cop said give him some time in a few hours during my lunch break he does not contribute anything I will push to lynch him b/c a player of his caliber should be able to do SOMETHING in a small amount of time he has basically play better than me at the very least, which I can't say confidently he is doing On August 15 2017 22:49 Conversion wrote: when in the fuck did I call you out? I asked you for clarification, then asked the thread about your meta ?????????????????? ^ #691 and #726, respectively. It's almost like Conversion is doing both misrepping and gaslighting by this point in the game already. No bueno. Maybe there was some context I missed in this situation, but this post: On August 17 2017 05:15 Conversion wrote: FF AFKs, throws scum read on me even though he's too busy to play, then points out the obvious like no shit he switched to save himself? what I'm getting at is that he had five hours to explain a read on you and instead he just ninja vote switches to save himself Is in reference to this post by FF: On August 17 2017 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Man i have so much work right now. If I get lynched sorry for being a shitter but damdred is scum and conversion is giving me bad vibes again and i think we should examine the possibility that all 3 lynch targets are town How does it make sense that FF is simultaneously "too busy to play," but had "five hours to explain a read on you?" This is almost so backwards that I have to believe that I am missing something and this is not just the most blatant non-sequitur defense/attack on FF. Anyway, I already responded to Conversion's issue with my inactivity and how it demonstrates that he didn't bother to read my filter before picking something to snag on, or if he did then he willfully misrepresented it. Followed by this sheeping on geript's meta explanation for why my post was bad, meta that he earlier claimed to be unaware of: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=82#1626 He also manages to misrep that I'm not doing anything, when in the limited time I had available to me (after the cycle started and FF was already lynched) I tried to come up with something about the game when I didn't even have access to a computer and the only thing that I could work with in the absence of filters and the thread itself is HF's gun play. Then he misreps that "I'm around," when I hadn't posted in 7 hours and my last post was an "Lol" off my mobile. Let's not forget that he had been townreading/leaning me practically all game until around page 6 of his 8 page filter, and started to get antsy when I didn't respond to his questions (not like I was posting anything else in the meantime, as I was gone, as I said I would be). So he is willing to give rayn a pass when CopCake says "trust me guys, he is busy and he is very cranky and tired!" but when I say that I won't be coming back until "tonight" (and by the time I did, I was too tired) I don't get any slack? K. Also, when CopCake started pushing some half-baked theories on me that was probably very convenient for Conversion to move me all the way down to scum. Seemed awful lot like he was making a mountain out of a molehill and wanted to ride the wave + sheep the current thread atmosphere. So yea, Conversion can be added to my scum pile now. CopCake I'd still say is more likely to be challenged in the reading comprehension department to be scum but I grow weary of that too. | ||
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Jealous
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Jealous
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I'll be leaving for the airport shortly after EoD, and will be on my mobile if at all during the weekend. I will probably be able to read most things in big chunks, but not respond much. Family vacation and all that. GLHF | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
but thanks for the essay that cherry picks my filter | ||
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Conversion
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