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On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third
tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading
way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb
personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information
pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar
are all town
still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though
not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo
who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though
shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. I'm on board with this I think.
yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple:
tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch
what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum
i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you
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timespan of rsoul read on gb
early d1 (14th - 15th) slight tr to null
middle d1 (15th to one hour before deadline) throwaway "getting okayer with lynching"
near deadline (one hour to ten minutes before deadline) ??? basically everything is about me
deadline (and the preceding ten minutes) ya let's shenanny gb
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On April 18 2016 06:26 Tumblewood wrote:
timespan of rsoul read on gb
early d1 (14th - 15th) slight tr to null
middle d1 (15th to one hour before deadline) throwaway "getting okayer with lynching"
near deadline (one hour to ten minutes before deadline) ??? basically everything is about me
deadline (and the preceding ten minutes) ya let's shenanny gb
do you really want me to quote all the times i mentioned gb? or are you going to go back into the filter, take your time, and realize that the read progression is there, clear and you should be apologizing rather than making yourself look more stupid?
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On April 18 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third
tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading
way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb
personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information
pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar
are all town
still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though
not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo
who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though
shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. I'm on board with this I think. yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple: tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you
I just agreed with the sentiment that tw and super aren't mafia together, I thought.
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On April 18 2016 06:23 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:08 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third
tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading
way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb
personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information
pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar
are all town
still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though
not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo
who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though
shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. one word for you: roleblocker even so, the bit about tumble calling for a vig onto super / : Also, unlike tumble, super considered tumble scummy and had no problems killing him and doing whatever it took to survive. This scenario is explained best by tumble being red and super being green. super- wanted tumble killed, did everything he could to kill him. Motive- It is worth any price to ensure that a scummer gets lynched tumble- wanted super dead, but as soon it looked like a matter of one of them having to be scum, tumble dodged. Motive- it does not matter if super dies first, a 1 1 trade is never good for scum. One acts as if the death of the other is worth any cost not only because it will exonerate him, but because for a townie it is absolutely worth it to die if it means a scummer dies tooThe other is considering not how to lynch scum, but rather how to prolong his own life / : see what I'm getting at?
i understand you, gum. i just don't see a point for a scum tw to not lynch a town super any more than i do for a town tw not to lynch a scumread super -shrugs- unless he's just decided to give up as scum, but that's not what the EoD looked like
and obv if super is rb that would explain why he'd be fine bussing and tw would be inclined to try to save him. i really just think they made a mistake
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On April 18 2016 06:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third
tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading
way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb
personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information
pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar
are all town
still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though
not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo
who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though
shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. I'm on board with this I think. yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple: tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you I just agreed with the sentiment that tw and super aren't mafia together, I thought.
yeah i know
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On April 17 2016 06:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Wtf where is this tumble vote from shaoe coming from?
Meta, Sorry i couldn't explain (I had to blast) but I can now.
As someone who has played scum with him, against him, and as town buddies, I kinda starting to understand Tumble. I was actually planning on coming forth with my identity (because I am the only one who would have that experience) earlier, but RL was a bitch.
Basically, Let me give you a quick synopsis of how he plays. Tumble usually is a low content poster, who most of the time, respond with questions or makes a statement. His filter, as town, is usually low in fluff, and if it has fluff, it usually is still paired with content of some degree (his noir theme posts for example.)
He also is pretty "cocky" if that is the word. Kinda smart ass too at times. rarely he will enter humor posts as town, and more so as scum (IIRC, he did this is ikido in the first scum game.)
And he usually always votes for survival too, like always. Which he really should of here, considering the person was a scum read of his before the wagons got close. usually he goes "Alright, I am survival voting X." Even if it is a meh read of his. Again, the only time I never seen him do it is when he is scum (though, this point really should be taken with a bit of salt about the scum thing, as he and I did it for a distance play)
I am just not getting the usual towny vibes i get from him when I am town and he is as well. Though i did click on his filter, and he has a 5 page filter, which i think is more than he had day 4 of any game lol.
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On April 18 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third
tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading
way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb
personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information
pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar
are all town
still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though
not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo
who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though
shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. I'm on board with this I think. yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple: tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you
read mah last post : P makes a better highlight of it.
Scum cant just play out things like a townie. They need to get more bang for thier buck as thier lives are move valuable.
Killing Gb, then super, is way better than just killing super. It was not an elaborate ploy to avoid the death of ether scummer.
and as I said, neither could have anticipated the gb fuck up, because super claimed before that happened.
Which means, if super is scum he made an uber shady claim(can you deny the heat hes got for it?) in order to keep living, thereby robbing his scum mate of a better position and hurting the scum team overall, just so that he could keep going.
tldr, it is more likely that tw and super are both town as opposed to both scum(though yeah, tw is probs scum). For reals Rsoul, your read doesn't really work ) : would require not only a fuck up from scum, but just really selfish shit play for no real reason.
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On April 17 2016 07:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Scum
I called a protoss player that today
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On April 18 2016 06:35 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 07:08 Rels wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Scum I called a protoss player that today
Doing gods work I see.
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On April 17 2016 07:14 Fazers wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Vig shoot this guy. SECONDED.
I clicked your filter out of curiosity, and i found nothing content wise. Ik how weird it is to jump into something like this, but you don't even seem engaged in the thread.
What are thou thoughts on the current state of the monocular hydrosphere and this game?
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On April 18 2016 06:34 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third
tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading
way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb
personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information
pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar
are all town
still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though
not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo
who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though
shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. I'm on board with this I think. yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple: tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you read mah last post : P makes a better highlight of it. Scum cant just play out things like a townie. They need to get more bang for thier buck as thier lives are move valuable. Killing Gb, then super, is way better than just killing super. It was not an elaborate ploy to avoid the death of ether scummer. and as I said, neither could have anticipated the gb fuck up, because super claimed before that happened.Which means, if super is scum he made an uber shady claim(can you deny the heat hes got for it?) in order to keep living, thereby robbing his scum mate of a better position and hurting the scum team overall, just so that he could keep going. tldr, it is more likely that tw and super are both town as opposed to both scum(though yeah, tw is probs scum). For reals Rsoul, your read doesn't really work ) : would require not only a fuck up from scum, but just really selfish shit play for no real reason.
i really fail to see the benefit of letting yourself be killed over town as scum, gum. i know i wouldn't. you can always try to talk your way out of a lynch d2 it's kinda retarded not to do it. i have seen scum players let themselves die over a roleblocker, and i have seen even stupider shit like when my own scummate pretended to be afk during her lynch so they didn't see that she didn't vote for her scum buddy, but then posting right after the flip which revealed she'd been there the whole time and basically confirmed my other scummate scum
of course it works. it works because players aren't perfect and because generally scum teams prefer to keep their roleblocker alive
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On April 18 2016 06:33 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Wtf where is this tumble vote from shaoe coming from? Meta, Sorry i couldn't explain (I had to blast) but I can now. As someone who has played scum with him, against him, and as town buddies, I kinda starting to understand Tumble. I was actually planning on coming forth with my identity (because I am the only one who would have that experience) earlier, but RL was a bitch. Basically, Let me give you a quick synopsis of how he plays. Tumble usually is a low content poster, who most of the time, respond with questions or makes a statement. His filter, as town, is usually low in fluff, and if it has fluff, it usually is still paired with content of some degree (his noir theme posts for example.) He also is pretty "cocky" if that is the word. Kinda smart ass too at times. rarely he will enter humor posts as town, and more so as scum (IIRC, he did this is ikido in the first scum game.) And he usually always votes for survival too, like always. Which he really should of here, considering the person was a scum read of his before the wagons got close. usually he goes "Alright, I am survival voting X." Even if it is a meh read of his. Again, the only time I never seen him do it is when he is scum (though, this point really should be taken with a bit of salt about the scum thing, as he and I did it for a distance play) I am just not getting the usual towny vibes i get from him when I am town and he is as well. Though i did click on his filter, and he has a 5 page filter, which i think is more than he had day 4 of any game lol.
let me give you a quick synopsis of how I play
I am usually a low-content, low-fluff poster. there is a trend, I think, of me having more fluff. I like to think that even my deadline fluff posts mostly had content in them, too.
I don't know where you're getting the humor posts thing as scum; nsm xix was my first game and should not be used to determine my playstyle because I had no idea how to play.
I voted for survival during storm mafia and never else.
this is an abnormally large filter for me because my plan for deadline was let myself get lynched so I can get some quality pressuring in. that is a special (speshul) case and should be treated as such.
even I'm not qualified to talk about my scum meta because outside of nsm xix all my scum experience is replacing into newbies and vets
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On April 18 2016 06:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third
tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading
way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb
personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information
pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar
are all town
still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though
not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo
who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though
shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. I'm on board with this I think. yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple: tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you read mah last post : P makes a better highlight of it. Scum cant just play out things like a townie. They need to get more bang for thier buck as thier lives are move valuable. Killing Gb, then super, is way better than just killing super. It was not an elaborate ploy to avoid the death of ether scummer. and as I said, neither could have anticipated the gb fuck up, because super claimed before that happened.Which means, if super is scum he made an uber shady claim(can you deny the heat hes got for it?) in order to keep living, thereby robbing his scum mate of a better position and hurting the scum team overall, just so that he could keep going. tldr, it is more likely that tw and super are both town as opposed to both scum(though yeah, tw is probs scum). For reals Rsoul, your read doesn't really work ) : would require not only a fuck up from scum, but just really selfish shit play for no real reason. i really fail to see the benefit of letting yourself be killed over town as scum, gum. i know i wouldn't. you can always try to talk your way out of a lynch d2 it's kinda retarded not to do it. i have seen scum players let themselves die over a roleblocker, and i have seen even stupider shit like when my own scummate pretended to be afk during her lynch so they didn't see that she didn't vote for her scum buddy, but then posting right after the flip which revealed she'd been there the whole time and basically confirmed my other scummate scum of course it works. it works because players aren't perfect and because generally scum teams prefer to keep their roleblocker alive
I think having your scummer in a good position in thread is far more important than keeping the Rb alive. Whats more, thier actions set it up so they were both likely to die, Super's claim did scum very few favours if they were both scum.
That said, it doesn't matter if we disagree on what scums priorities were. We have common ground on Tw, so we start there and see where it takes us / :
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more to the point, it's the most likely scenario here unless tw is having the worst town game of his life and just needs to be taught how to be honest + vote his scumread to save himself
^ i'm not trying to be mean here tumble, i'm really not. it's actually a compliment to think that you couldn't play this way as town. i really don't want to believe you're this bad. and if you are town...well...i'm not trying to insult you but it's super awful play lol >< one of the easiest things to do is be honest and vote for survival on a scum read
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On April 17 2016 07:16 ritoky wrote:Day 1 Final Vote Count Rsoultin: (1) Onegu Superbia: (3) rsoultin, Obiwanshinobi, sicklucker, fazers, Palmar, GlowingBear Tumblewood: (3) gumshoe, rsoultin, rels, fazers, tumblewood, Superbia, Justanotherscummer GlowingBear: (6) Justanothertownie, Obiwanshinobi, Palmar, rsoultin, Superbia, tumblewood Not voting: (0)
Currently GlowingBear is set to be lynched until deadline. + Show Spoiler +sorry for the delay, cousin had a baby so i am in and out a bit
On April 17 2016 05:52 Fazers wrote:
I voted Tumblewood because majority thought he was mafia but he is voting for himself so I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
I know Superbia wanted to lynch me a while back, not sure why.
On April 17 2016 05:59 Fazers wrote:
No, I don't really think I need better reasons. Pre Day 1 we can point fingers as we please with not much concrete proof or even hints of someone being scum. Someone's going to die, townie or mafia so I actually feel no guilt waiting it out until we have more information to work out of.
Hmmm, His vote is technically OMGUS in nature. Littlearly had no other reason to vote super (posted) then I guess because super wanted to vote him. Tumble vote was based off of general thesis.
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On April 18 2016 06:08 Tumblewood wrote:
and if shape were bussing that's some really weak bussing
0 towncred to be extracted there
On April 18 2016 06:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:08 Tumblewood wrote:
and if shape were bussing that's some really weak bussing
0 towncred to be extracted there yeah i'd reaaaallly like to say that would actually stop him lol >< that said it's not like i'm calling him scum for it, just not willing to put him up with my fairly certain towns, so it's pretty much a moot point
The scummy thing about it is that shape was completely oblivious to what happened in the thread. He doesn't feel the "towny vibes" and just because of that he ignores everything else that happens? Like superbia claiming a role etc?
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On April 18 2016 06:43 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:39 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 06:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third
tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading
way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb
personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information
pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar
are all town
still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though
not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo
who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though
shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. I'm on board with this I think. yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple: tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you read mah last post : P makes a better highlight of it. Scum cant just play out things like a townie. They need to get more bang for thier buck as thier lives are move valuable. Killing Gb, then super, is way better than just killing super. It was not an elaborate ploy to avoid the death of ether scummer. and as I said, neither could have anticipated the gb fuck up, because super claimed before that happened.Which means, if super is scum he made an uber shady claim(can you deny the heat hes got for it?) in order to keep living, thereby robbing his scum mate of a better position and hurting the scum team overall, just so that he could keep going. tldr, it is more likely that tw and super are both town as opposed to both scum(though yeah, tw is probs scum). For reals Rsoul, your read doesn't really work ) : would require not only a fuck up from scum, but just really selfish shit play for no real reason. i really fail to see the benefit of letting yourself be killed over town as scum, gum. i know i wouldn't. you can always try to talk your way out of a lynch d2 it's kinda retarded not to do it. i have seen scum players let themselves die over a roleblocker, and i have seen even stupider shit like when my own scummate pretended to be afk during her lynch so they didn't see that she didn't vote for her scum buddy, but then posting right after the flip which revealed she'd been there the whole time and basically confirmed my other scummate scum of course it works. it works because players aren't perfect and because generally scum teams prefer to keep their roleblocker alive I think having your scummer in a good position in thread is far more important than keeping the Rb alive. Whats more, thier actions set it up so they were both likely to die, Super's claim did scum very few favours if they were both scum. That said, it doesn't matter if we disagree on what scums priorities were. We have common ground on Tw, so we start there and see where it takes us / :
lol true ^^
just promise me that if vig shoots super and i'm not around...or if super ever flips and i'm not around...(obv if he flips town that's moot lol)...you won't rule out tw based on this reasoning
i'd be really fucking surprised if tumble were town this game
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On April 18 2016 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:08 Tumblewood wrote:
and if shape were bussing that's some really weak bussing
0 towncred to be extracted there Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:15 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 06:08 Tumblewood wrote:
and if shape were bussing that's some really weak bussing
0 towncred to be extracted there yeah i'd reaaaallly like to say that would actually stop him lol >< that said it's not like i'm calling him scum for it, just not willing to put him up with my fairly certain towns, so it's pretty much a moot point The scummy thing about it is that shape was completely oblivious to what happened in the thread. He doesn't feel the "towny vibes" and just because of that he ignores everything else that happens? Like superbia claiming a role etc?
yeah i hear ye. i think the reason the bussing in particular sticks in my head is i've seen him vote on the scum wagon (mine! lol) when he knows they won't be lynched just to be on the right wagon later. of course he could just be town voting on who he thinks is scum, and that can be true even while being oblivious...some people just go their own way...but yeah
which actually is a good point anyway
i can check your filter real quick but shape what was your read on gb?
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