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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 21:00 GMT
#801
On April 18 2016 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:
you're conflating "can dig as scum" with an actual scumread
i made it clear that that was a total sheep and not a hard read
+ Show Spoiler +
oh but what an opportunistic read


oh but what an opportunistic read


thanks mang : D I dont even have to make arguments against you anymore XD.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:01 GMT
#802
On April 18 2016 06:00 Tumblewood wrote:
rsoultin why did you switch from "total scumlord tumblewood" to "eh i could shenanny gb"
ooh didn't see the reversal coming didya


they were talking about shennanies and i said gb was the only one i'd be willing to shennany to
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 21:04 GMT
#803
why do you twitch a little when you see the "tw will always vote for survival" comment from shape
that's obviously linked to my eod2 and eod4 in storm and makes sense for him to bring up even if "always" has a sample size of 1
good times for all
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:06 GMT
#804
On April 18 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote:
why do you twitch a little when you see the "tw will always vote for survival" comment from shape
that's obviously linked to my eod2 and eod4 in storm and makes sense for him to bring up even if "always" has a sample size of 1


already said it. he's buss-happy as scum. i was just on a scumteam with him lol i should know

you changing your behavior once he said it doesn't really mean anything about either of your alignments, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 21:07 GMT
#805
On April 18 2016 06:01 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 06:00 Tumblewood wrote:
rsoultin why did you switch from "total scumlord tumblewood" to "eh i could shenanny gb"
ooh didn't see the reversal coming didya


they were talking about shennanies and i said gb was the only one i'd be willing to shennany to

but why would you do that shenanny when you could lynch total scumlord tumblewood instead
and why am i scum with super? i'm not afraid of bussing and it makes no sense to try and "save" superbia there when he's obviously going to die one way or another [unless he's blue]
good times for all
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 21:08 GMT
#806
On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here


I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim.

This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred.

Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 21:08 GMT
#807
and if shape were bussing that's some really weak bussing
0 towncred to be extracted there
good times for all
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:08 GMT
#808
On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here


I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim.

This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred.

Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him.



one word for you: roleblocker
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:10 GMT
#809
On April 18 2016 06:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 06:01 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 06:00 Tumblewood wrote:
rsoultin why did you switch from "total scumlord tumblewood" to "eh i could shenanny gb"
ooh didn't see the reversal coming didya


they were talking about shennanies and i said gb was the only one i'd be willing to shennany to

but why would you do that shenanny when you could lynch total scumlord tumblewood instead
and why am i scum with super? i'm not afraid of bussing and it makes no sense to try and "save" superbia there when he's obviously going to die one way or another [unless he's blue]


same word for you xP

because i wanted you or gb if i couldn't have you and it looked like people wanted a different lynch. this really isn't rocket science
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 21:14 GMT
#810
where did the gb read come from though
there was no scumread at all until 5 minutes before deadline
good times for all
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:15 GMT
#811
On April 18 2016 06:08 Tumblewood wrote:
and if shape were bussing that's some really weak bussing
0 towncred to be extracted there


yeah i'd reaaaallly like to say that would actually stop him lol ><

that said it's not like i'm calling him scum for it, just not willing to put him up with my fairly certain towns, so it's pretty much a moot point
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:15 GMT
#812
On April 18 2016 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
where did the gb read come from though
there was no scumread at all until 5 minutes before deadline


you're not reading my filter. read the filter of your top scumread that you're trying to "grill" before you say things like this
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 21:16 GMT
#813
On April 18 2016 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
where did the gb read come from though
there was no scumread at all until 5 minutes before deadline


dude popped up five seconds before deadline after zero activity and voted with a shitty excuse. It was like throwing a limp rabbit into a wolf pen.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 21:16 GMT
#814
On April 17 2016 01:24 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, well here are my problems with Superbia:

- generally inactive (mostly NAI with a slight lean toward scum given he just came off a game as 3p)
- lack of meaningful contribution when he's here
- disappearing the moment he gets questioned after giving a dismissive answer (<- could be coincidence but i kinda doubt it)
- the post palmar quoted (so...while there's nothing that says a player can't think that another having the same reads as you might make them more town, saying i might be okay for that but then voting me anyway means he at least doesn't believe it very much, and i personally find it hard to believe that after he just played with me in storm where i bussed pretty much my entire scum team that he actually thinks this would have any bearing on my alignment anyway. it doesn't line up)

@super...meh=mehfia doesn't really cut it. tw explained what he meant and i'd like you to explain as well, cause much as i've been pressured from the start of the game again (yay! \o/ so much fun) it seems like a convenient survivalist piggy-back to me. believe it or not i'd rather lynch mafia today than a town super playing badly so help me out here if you're town ^^ otherwise feel free to stay afk lol

also getting more and more okay with lynching gb as time goes on ^^

oh wait here it is
the only time you actually scumread gb
"getting more and more okay with it"
good times for all
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:18 GMT
#815
On April 18 2016 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 01:24 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, well here are my problems with Superbia:

- generally inactive (mostly NAI with a slight lean toward scum given he just came off a game as 3p)
- lack of meaningful contribution when he's here
- disappearing the moment he gets questioned after giving a dismissive answer (<- could be coincidence but i kinda doubt it)
- the post palmar quoted (so...while there's nothing that says a player can't think that another having the same reads as you might make them more town, saying i might be okay for that but then voting me anyway means he at least doesn't believe it very much, and i personally find it hard to believe that after he just played with me in storm where i bussed pretty much my entire scum team that he actually thinks this would have any bearing on my alignment anyway. it doesn't line up)

@super...meh=mehfia doesn't really cut it. tw explained what he meant and i'd like you to explain as well, cause much as i've been pressured from the start of the game again (yay! \o/ so much fun) it seems like a convenient survivalist piggy-back to me. believe it or not i'd rather lynch mafia today than a town super playing badly so help me out here if you're town ^^ otherwise feel free to stay afk lol

also getting more and more okay with lynching gb as time goes on ^^

oh wait here it is
the only time you actually scumread gb
"getting more and more okay with it"


read my filter don't pick one post from my filter and say it's the only time
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 21:19 GMT
#816
On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here


I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim.

This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred.

Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him.



I'm on board with this I think.
Retired.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 21:20 GMT
#817
i seriously ctrl + f'ed the last four pages of your filter and the only times you said anything about lynching gb were that post and the minutes before deadline
good times for all
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 21:20 GMT
#818
My reads haven't really changed all that much from day phase aside from feeling less certain about TW.
Retired.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:20 GMT
#819
On April 18 2016 06:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 01:24 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, well here are my problems with Superbia:

- generally inactive (mostly NAI with a slight lean toward scum given he just came off a game as 3p)
- lack of meaningful contribution when he's here
- disappearing the moment he gets questioned after giving a dismissive answer (<- could be coincidence but i kinda doubt it)
- the post palmar quoted (so...while there's nothing that says a player can't think that another having the same reads as you might make them more town, saying i might be okay for that but then voting me anyway means he at least doesn't believe it very much, and i personally find it hard to believe that after he just played with me in storm where i bussed pretty much my entire scum team that he actually thinks this would have any bearing on my alignment anyway. it doesn't line up)

@super...meh=mehfia doesn't really cut it. tw explained what he meant and i'd like you to explain as well, cause much as i've been pressured from the start of the game again (yay! \o/ so much fun) it seems like a convenient survivalist piggy-back to me. believe it or not i'd rather lynch mafia today than a town super playing badly so help me out here if you're town ^^ otherwise feel free to stay afk lol

also getting more and more okay with lynching gb as time goes on ^^

oh wait here it is
the only time you actually scumread gb
"getting more and more okay with it"


read my filter don't pick one post from my filter and say it's the only time


like seriously, if you're town this game you're playing god-awful and should be lynched. i'd be sad to be wrong but not feel sorry for you at all after lying about shit and your EoD behavior that makes no earthly sense.

but if you're mafia this game, and i think you are, a little friendly advice: do your research before you go on the attack cause you really do look like an over-aggressive moron and yes, scummy, when you sit there and cherry pick like this instead of actually verifying that what you're saying is true. it is extremely easy for me to refute you right now cause you're just firing away without thinking or checking
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 21:23 GMT
#820
On April 18 2016 06:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here


I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim.

This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred.

Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him.



one word for you: roleblocker


even so, the bit about tumble calling for a vig onto super / : Also, unlike tumble, super considered tumble scummy and had no problems killing him and doing whatever it took to survive.

This scenario is explained best by tumble being red and super being green.

super- wanted tumble killed, did everything he could to kill him. Motive- It is worth any price to ensure that a scummer gets lynched

tumble- wanted super dead, but as soon it looked like a matter of one of them having to be scum, tumble dodged. Motive- it does not matter if super dies first, a 1 1 trade is never good for scum.

One acts as if the death of the other is worth any cost not only because it will exonerate him, but because for a townie it is absolutely worth it to die if it means a scummer dies too

The other is considering not how to lynch scum, but rather how to prolong his own life / :

see what I'm getting at?

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
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