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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 19:25 GMT
#781
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:35 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

this is the only question i can even find in your filter directed at me and should be immensely obvious...and the reason i asked you why you wanted me specifically to give a hard read on fazers' first post was because it's an awfully odd thing to say unless you thought his post was significant somehow

which obviously you couldn't have if you completely "forgot" why you did it in the first place, or are you trying to sell that you're that forgetful?

not trying to sell shit. it's obvious i'm doing my fair share of bsing this game but it's only selling it if i'm trying to say i do that frequently as town, and i usually don't do it as either alignment. after today i'm going to try to not bs because that makes it much harder to evaluate people when they can bs and get away with it
do you need extra reasons to scumread me or what


???

nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place

i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?

because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 19:52 GMT
#782
Onegu,

can I get your reads on the following players

licker

obi

fazzers

palmer.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 17 2016 20:04 GMT
#783
On April 18 2016 04:52 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu,

can I get your reads on the following players

licker

obi

fazzers

palmer.



Yeah I am still reading and what not. Give me a bit.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 20:12 GMT
#784
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
not trying to sell shit. it's obvious i'm doing my fair share of bsing this game but it's only selling it if i'm trying to say i do that frequently as town, and i usually don't do it as either alignment. after today i'm going to try to not bs because that makes it much harder to evaluate people when they can bs and get away with it
do you need extra reasons to scumread me or what


???

nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place

i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?

because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched
good times for all
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 20:23 GMT
#785
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

???

nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place

i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?

because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched


okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@

it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super

then

the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them

why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 17 2016 20:25 GMT
#786
If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 17 2016 20:26 GMT
#787
Wanted to post more&later but going to sleep now. Look at the people who pushed on me post-flip if I die.
Minimal effort.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 20:37 GMT
#788
On April 18 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched


okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@

it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super

then

the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them

why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?

nononono
when super was the counterwagon it wasn't "if i want to live i need to vote super", it was "if i don't vote super i die d1 if i vote super i die d2"
then everyone left super for gb and people simultaneously said that i was town, so it became "if i don't vote gb i die d1 if i vote gb i don't die"
like i got so entrenched in thinking i was going to die that i didn't even see superbia as a survival wagon, just a delay death wagon
good times for all
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
April 17 2016 20:38 GMT
#789
On April 18 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.

Is this some elaborate scumclaim? Dumbest actions ever.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
April 17 2016 20:39 GMT
#790
On April 18 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched


okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@

it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super

then

the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them

why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?

nononono
when super was the counterwagon it wasn't "if i want to live i need to vote super", it was "if i don't vote super i die d1 if i vote super i die d2"
then everyone left super for gb and people simultaneously said that i was town, so it became "if i don't vote gb i die d1 if i vote gb i don't die"
like i got so entrenched in thinking i was going to die that i didn't even see superbia as a survival wagon, just a delay death wagon

Dude, this doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
April 17 2016 20:40 GMT
#791
Let's just pray that superbia is trying to wifom mafia again if he is town.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 20:41 GMT
#792
On April 18 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.

wow good to know that you're actually not "actually not blue but VT fakeclaiming" but blue not claiming
if palmar dies superbia is conftown
if superbia dies superbia is dead and flipped
if both survive superbia is 99% scum and palmar is whatever
ezpz
good times for all
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
April 17 2016 20:42 GMT
#793
On April 18 2016 05:41 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.

wow good to know that you're actually not "actually not blue but VT fakeclaiming" but blue not claiming
if palmar dies superbia is conftown
if superbia dies superbia is dead and flipped
if both survive superbia is 99% scum and palmar is whatever
ezpz

Mafia has a roleblocker. If both survive it doesn't really mean anything.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 20:43 GMT
#794
On April 18 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched


okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@

it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super

then

the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them

why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?

nononono
when super was the counterwagon it wasn't "if i want to live i need to vote super", it was "if i don't vote super i die d1 if i vote super i die d2"
then everyone left super for gb and people simultaneously said that i was town, so it became "if i don't vote gb i die d1 if i vote gb i don't die"
like i got so entrenched in thinking i was going to die that i didn't even see superbia as a survival wagon, just a delay death wagon


okay, well just be aware that if super ever flips scum in this game i'm gonna have a hard time seeing you as town. like, here's my problem:

you said you were reading super as scum. if that's true and you have the option of voting your scumread who then flips scum or voting yourself...why do you ever not vote your scumread there? maybe you're wrong and he's town but you don't even have a townread on him, you said that you thought he was scum when i asked for all your reads
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 20:48 GMT
#795
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

???

nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place

i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?

because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched


so lets see if I can parse this out.

You were certain that even if superbia did get lynched, he would flip town thereby incriminating you / :

even though you were sure he was scum...

superbia is also scum but i don't know why i'm just trusting everybody else


what changed to make you go from that read to-

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point


when did you start thinking super would flip town thereby ensuring your death? If he had flipped scum, you would be completely in the clear, instead you swapped onto a total nobody along with the rest of town in a scenario that conveniently said nothing about your alignment.

Whats more, even though you thought superbia was scum you never actually wanted to lynch him, you wanted the vig shot to take care of him
pls vig shoot superbia tonight


A vig shot would have kept your hands squeaky / :

tldr, you are unwilling to risk your life to pursue your scum reads. You would rather lynch a total nobody than risk yourself killing someone you think is actually scum.

sooooo yeah... sorta scummy.



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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 20:52 GMT
#796
shit forgot the most important bit
+ Show Spoiler +

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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 20:56 GMT
#797
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 20:58 GMT
#798
you're conflating "can dig as scum" with an actual scumread
i made it clear that that was a total sheep and not a hard read
+ Show Spoiler +
oh but what an opportunistic read
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 21:00 GMT
#799
rsoultin why did you switch from "total scumlord tumblewood" to "eh i could shenanny gb"
ooh didn't see the reversal coming didya
good times for all
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 17 2016 21:00 GMT
#800
On April 18 2016 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:
you're conflating "can dig as scum" with an actual scumread
i made it clear that that was a total sheep and not a hard read
+ Show Spoiler +
oh but what an opportunistic read


which post was that? i mean it still doesn't make any sense to me unless you thought he was town, but given my whole game view basically centers around thinking you're scum, making yourself as clear as possible is best for everyone if you're actually town here
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