Team Melee Mini Mafia VI: Newbies and Vets

Fucking Race Bannon...

Evidence: They forgot to change their shoes and hats! Clearly they are mafia masker-aiding!

love me some alliteration though

We got this weird shit on us, but we totally green to the bone nut thing

I mean, if we can't trust fairies who can we trust?

Nothing out of place here at all.

Flowers man... the flowering flowers.

Bovine Chaos. I love it.

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Just a couple of guys who's luck is drooping down.

See #151

Also scum, probably...

Awwwwwwwww... we can keep em.

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Pinged my interest right off with this:

This is such an odd question right off the bat. It looks like sand saw Damdred post, decided to ask him a question, and then thought up a good question to ask. I see no reason for a towny to be worried about how a blue should claim in the first 5 min of the game.

The followups from this suggest no actual opinions or thoughts about the game from sand. It's pretty telling that Sand wanted to ask about blues claiming (something mafia cares about more than town should) with Damdred, but had no thoughts on how best to approach reading pairs of people (something town SHOULD care about a lot)


This is also a pretty scummy answer imo, and it's exactly what his partner had been doing, focusing one person.

I think we have to consider each team as a slot, and town needs to win by lynching the 2 scum slots. There is no reason to discount half of the info we have on on a slot because one person seems like an easier read than the other.

This post is an example of something I tried to call Kita out for in the PyP game, I'm gunna call it "The Red Perspective" or thinking with a mafia mindset. This was in response to Kush asking "why not consider both players"


Ofc, both alignments know that Scum want to look like town, but look at the bold. This is not a town mindset at all, this is sand just reversing his scum mindset, but it doesn't actually mean anything. Why? Kus mafia want to look like town, but town want to Solve the Game! So this reasoning is not only flawed but it's flawed because Sand is not looking at the game from a townmindset.

This also stuck out as odd to me.



This completly ignores that Cow is pretty clearly a newbie player and personally I find this explanation pumped up unneccesarily. Was Cow's post filled with tons of reads and great reasoning? No, but it was commenting on the important stuff going on with his opinion and thoughts.

I find the bolded line especially forced here, this doesn't look like a read to me at all. It looks like a hastily made and forced read. Sand isn't trying to think about Cow being scum or Town here, he's jumping at something going "look at this scummy thing! lets kill it!"


Lol points for the big word to make us feel the pain of reading a game without a filter. Also what is this trying to use meta based on 1 post?

This was after discussing how VE's use of meta was questionable...

He also "gathers" that his partner has played with Cow before, but hasn't spoken to him about their reads? Didn't qod suggest there was nothing scummy about cow based on his own esperience? I just find this whole read really weird.




Idk this feels weird to me, like he's accusing Damdred of being scummy kus he thinks Cow is scummy.

Worst of all he ignored my question to him.

Funny that he missed FF and UN being partners... idk about this read either

I also legit have no idea what he could possibly mean by the bolded line here. UN has literally no mention of qod until he responds to THIS post... also prior to this qod had literally only posted "hello"



If this is true, then why didn't you mention that until here?

This looks like qob is just confused as to who he is talking about...

Is is Shape or Sentinal you are reading dude?


But... you just... And you were even responding to shape before telling him you didn't like sentinal's post? I'm really confused here now.

But here he knows he's talking to two differen't people.




Like if this was all of qod's filter I'd ask if he's sure he isn't mixing up players here, but given his fighting and pushing with Sentinel later on I can only conclude that he's sure about Sentinel. Yet his whole read on sentinal makes no sense, I can only conclude this is a fake read and the hyper focus on one person is just a tactic to appear engaged and that you believe your read. The problem is, I can't believe Qob's read when I look at it so I find his over-aggression very misplaced and likely fabricated.

Too easily calling Koshi town kus Damdred know's he's town

Just in case that's not clear. Cop is the only role that would not think a JK role is out of place because Cop/JK is the only 2 blue setup possible.

So Mafia claim JK, get no CC. They can therefor assume the only blue in the game is a Cop.

Yea I should have known that Damdred was mafia from his switch to Rels after he claimed. It's definitely possible that town fake-claims in a setup like this, but moving onto such a bad lynch for such bad reasons after that? I sorta knew, but I WIFOM myself out of it thinking about things from a pure numbers standpoint.

I stand by the rest of my play. It's easy to say it was the correct move to CC right at EoD in retrospect, but when you are in the moment, with time ticking away scrambling to catch-up and asses the situation it's not so simple.