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Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 15:11 GMT
#721
On March 01 2016 21:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.

Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.


***To be continued***


Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.

Town.
Marv gave this as a reason to townread Koshi later so it's 100% true htey communicated on that.
They have little reason to communicate on marv's reason to townread Koshi if they are scum.


Rels, I'm assume you have other reasons to put Marv/Spike in your town-list but I don't think this should be one of them. I can very easily see Marv saying this to Spike even when they are Mafia. They know each other IRL...
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 01 2016 15:16 GMT
#722
On March 02 2016 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, why are you finding kush suspicious, exactly?

I don't think I find him suspicious. I already forgot why exactly I had him as mafia. His start felt off. And I had all other people as town. But I made the mistake to think marv/sentinel couldn't be mafia on mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 15:17 GMT
#723
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 01 2016 15:21 GMT
#724
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 15:23 GMT
#725
On March 02 2016 00:11 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 21:52 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.

Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.


***To be continued***


Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.

Town.
Marv gave this as a reason to townread Koshi later so it's 100% true htey communicated on that.
They have little reason to communicate on marv's reason to townread Koshi if they are scum.


Rels, I'm assume you have other reasons to put Marv/Spike in your town-list but I don't think this should be one of them. I can very easily see Marv saying this to Spike even when they are Mafia. They know each other IRL...

Yeah that might not be super strong actually. But marv's play makes me think he's town.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 01 2016 15:30 GMT
#726
marv is mafia. But we might lynch his teammate.
I had a good night of sleep.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 01 2016 15:40 GMT
#727
On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog.

No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Queenfestor
Profile Joined February 2016
25 Posts
March 01 2016 15:43 GMT
#728
On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now.


So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 15:44 GMT
#729
On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog.

No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better.

i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 15:55 GMT
#730
On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now.


So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior?

Did you read the whole thread ?
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 15:57 GMT
#731
On March 01 2016 23:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@marv, both cow and damdred have made decent deep thought posts.
I think you may be sheeping outdated sandroba feels.

Can I interest you in a sent lynch?


You say Damdred has made decent posts, but his one post that was actually trying to do something you called out as a scum-slip:

On March 01 2016 12:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB.

There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF.

1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me.
2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town.

Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available.

Here is what FF said

On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant?

For a player of my stature im being quite humble.

I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend.

Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced


FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided.

So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure.



This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob.


Can you elaborate more on your Damdred read (which posts do you think were good?) cause I have difficulty reading him.

Also, you said you like TheCows post:

On March 01 2016 22:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
damdred/thecow
thecow is being tight-lipped for the most part.
I checked this out:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:44 TheCow wrote:
#243-244 appears to be an attempt to discredit the attack against Sentinel -- his partner. Leveraging the style of qob as well as his newness to sidestep the read.

He's talking about these quotes:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 02:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob is new but trying hard to throw scum on my partner because he was aggresive and voted me.

Wowie

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 02:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I like that you're trying qob but you're off to a bad start

I think it's a smart way to describe what FF is doing.

As for damdred, he's reading the thread closely so that gives him townpoints.

Verdict: town enough


But you missed his other post significant post:

On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.

sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier.


I don't like this post at all. Even is Sandroba is mistaken about the point of TheCow's post, Sandroba's post was good and the pressure on TheCow is justified. So his reason to find Sandroba scummy is very weak in my opinion, but he does so regardless. It's just a bad reaction to being called out. However! He can read Qob and he feels town, so the slot must be town, right? But! Sandroba is still scummy, because of that one reaction post. He is trying to discredit Sandroba's post by calling it scummy, but at the same time doesn't dare to call him scum. Not a real defense and no progression either.

Do you not agree that this post is bad? Why did you leave it out of your analysis?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Queenfestor
Profile Joined February 2016
25 Posts
March 01 2016 15:59 GMT
#732
On March 02 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now.


So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior?

Did you read the whole thread ?

I did except posts #540-~600 which i skipped due to the wall of texts while i am being sleeping / work - didnt thought this is going 2 be discussing any further - did i missed sthm?
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 01 2016 15:59 GMT
#733
On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog.

No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better.

i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p

Pfffff, I can self meta myself.
Is Shapelog Shit posting?
If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda?
if yes, Mafia
if no, Town
If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read?
if yes, Mafia
if no, Town.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 16:01 GMT
#734
On March 02 2016 00:57 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 23:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@marv, both cow and damdred have made decent deep thought posts.
I think you may be sheeping outdated sandroba feels.

Can I interest you in a sent lynch?


You say Damdred has made decent posts, but his one post that was actually trying to do something you called out as a scum-slip:

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 12:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB.

There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF.

1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me.
2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town.

Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available.

Here is what FF said

On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant?

For a player of my stature im being quite humble.

I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend.

Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced


FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided.

So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure.



This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob.


Can you elaborate more on your Damdred read (which posts do you think were good?) cause I have difficulty reading him.

Also, you said you like TheCows post:

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 22:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
damdred/thecow
thecow is being tight-lipped for the most part.
I checked this out:
On March 01 2016 05:44 TheCow wrote:
#243-244 appears to be an attempt to discredit the attack against Sentinel -- his partner. Leveraging the style of qob as well as his newness to sidestep the read.

He's talking about these quotes:
On March 01 2016 02:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob is new but trying hard to throw scum on my partner because he was aggresive and voted me.

Wowie

On March 01 2016 02:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I like that you're trying qob but you're off to a bad start

I think it's a smart way to describe what FF is doing.

As for damdred, he's reading the thread closely so that gives him townpoints.

Verdict: town enough


But you missed his other post significant post:

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.

sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier.


I don't like this post at all. Even is Sandroba is mistaken about the point of TheCow's post, Sandroba's post was good and the pressure on TheCow is justified. So his reason to find Sandroba scummy is very weak in my opinion, but he does so regardless. It's just a bad reaction to being called out. However! He can read Qob and he feels town, so the slot must be town, right? But! Sandroba is still scummy, because of that one reaction post. He is trying to discredit Sandroba's post by calling it scummy, but at the same time doesn't dare to call him scum. Not a real defense and no progression either.

Do you not agree that this post is bad? Why did you leave it out of your analysis?


hmm let me look into the second part. That damdred post though, I didn't say it was scumslip, I said his argument was that FF made a scumslip. Which I didn't agree with really, because I have seen town make that same type of "scumslip"
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 01 2016 16:02 GMT
#735
@At Felk.
Kush in 1st post was talking about FF

"So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure." -Damdred


"This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob." -Kush

I let my partner explain the rest since he would know more.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 16:03 GMT
#736
On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog.

No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better.

i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p

Pfffff, I can self meta myself.
Is Shapelog Shit posting?
If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda?
if yes, Mafia
if no, Town
If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read?
if yes, Mafia
if no, Town.


I thought you were working on some reads for me? Is that too town-agenda to fit your meta?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 01 2016 16:04 GMT
#737
On March 02 2016 01:03 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog.

No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better.

i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p

Pfffff, I can self meta myself.
Is Shapelog Shit posting?
If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda?
if yes, Mafia
if no, Town
If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read?
if yes, Mafia
if no, Town.


I thought you were working on some reads for me? Is that too town-agenda to fit your meta?

I am working on them. I am in a college class and trying to filter, post here, qt, 2nd game takes muti skill.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 16:06 GMT
#738
On March 02 2016 01:02 Shapelog wrote:
@At Felk.
Kush in 1st post was talking about FF
Show nested quote +

"So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure." -Damdred

Show nested quote +

"This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob." -Kush

I let my partner explain the rest since he would know more.


I obviously can't read long walls of text and stay focused... Sorry.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 16:07 GMT
#739
On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.

sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier.


yeah this post doesn't really make sense. Contradictions that are super obvious don't make me scumread people though.
I read it as sandroba being scummy because he voted thecow without understanding the cow's post (the one about philosophy).
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 01 2016 16:10 GMT
#740
The game gets really simple if you accept the fact marv is mafia. It is so blatantly obvious it hurts my soul. But I"ll let you people do w.e you want D1. It's a learning experience after all.
I had a good night of sleep.
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