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Team Melee Mini Mafia VI: Newbies and Vets

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 01:02:28
February 14 2016 01:57 GMT
#1
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*Hapahauli is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards them or myself.

Team Melee Mini Mafia VI: Newbies and Vets

+ Show Spoiler [Important Posts] +
Day One
Night One
Day Two
Night Two
Modkill
Day Three
Endgame



Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.

The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, please do not play.


Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players unless cleared by the host in advance. Otherwise, only you may post on your account.
11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.
12. Posting a false role PM phrased as if you received it from the host. You can still fake roleclaim, but you cannot make it look like you are posting a PM you received from the host.
13. Encrypting posts and revealing their contents at a later time.
Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.

Posting:

Mod Font:
This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.

Question Font:
This is question font. Use it to ask the moderators questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.

Activity:
Each player of a team must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and one member of the team has to vote every day while they are alive. However, it is expected that each player exceed this minimum post requirement. Players who the host deem as inactive will be warned and subsequently repalced or modkilled.

Smurfs:
PM me if you wish to smurf in this game. You must be willing to reveal your identity to your partner.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again if you have to edit anything.

Inappropriate posts:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host or GMarshal before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.

Reporting posts:
The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, co-host, or GMarshal before using your report button.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.



Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in a separate voting thread. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Kavdragon. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses).
6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
7. This game follows plurality lynch rules. The player with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched.



Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please PM Blazinghand or post in the Ban List.

Replacements:
This game uses replacements at the hosts discretion. Replacements may be used throughout the entire duration of the game.

Clues:
There are no clues.

PMs:
You may PM only your partner. Mafia members may PM their entire faction. Each pair will be provided with a quicktopic. You may not post the link to your QT in the thread or directly quote posts with timestamps as a means to confirm your alignment. The mafia team will receive an additional quicktopic for factional communication.

Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is 01:00 GMT (+00:00), but that is subject to change.


Credits:
Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer.
Thanks to everyone who helped balance this game.

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!



On February 20 2013 21:59 Acrofales wrote:
Newbie-specific stuff


1.It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity.

2. Only sign up if you know you will have the time available to properly play the game. It is essential that players remain active in a newbie game, so only /in if you are able to play to your fullest.

3. If there is any sort of issue, you are unsure about some mechanic, or you are just wondering if your devilish scheme is even allowed, feel free to PM me, or ask in-thread with green text. Don't feel shy; these games are meant to be a place to learn and be open.

4. Behave as gentlemen (or ladies). Things get heated here, but personal attacks will not be acceptable, and will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, this is a game; have fun and happy scumhunting!

5. Please do not talk about any ongoing games either in-game or pre-game. This can affect other games and is unacceptable. Please do not refer to outside-of- thread activity of players in this thread.

6. If you receive coaching, don't tell town about it.

7. glhf!


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I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-29 01:00:55
February 14 2016 01:57 GMT
#2
Game Specific Information:

This game will be played in place of the standard newbie game and would be a great opportunity for players new to forum mafia.

-This is an open mini setup with a twist. There will be 18 players but only 9 roles in the game, each role will be played by two players, and they will for all intents an purposes be considered a single entity throughout the game, they will vote together (the last vote always counts) and they will be voted for together, and if they have any actions they will do them together.

-A pair will consist of one "Junior" player and one "Senior" player. When you sign up, please indicate which role you will be joining as. For reference, a junior would be equivalent to a newbie player who has played three games or less and a senior would be a more experienced player. However, this is more of a suggestion, rather than a requirement. Feel free to join as whichever role you see fit.

-Each player within a team is expected to contribute an equal amount. While there may be some elements of coaching involved, seniors may not play a back seat role and juniors should not shy away from posting.

-If you have a request for whom you would like to be paired up with let me know. Otherwise, I will pair the players randomly.

-I'll try my best to replace a player before modkilling an entire team, but please try to remember to vote and stay active.

-The mafia KP is 1. KP is factional and may not be roleblocked.



This game will use one of the following possible setups:
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Parity Cop, Jailkeeper.
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Parity Cop.
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Jailkeeper.
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Doctor.


Role Descriptions:

Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog
You are Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog, the vanilla townies. It's not easy being green. You have no special powers. You win with town.

Simon and Garfunkel
You are Simon and Garfunkel, the town doctors. Like a bridge over troubled water, they will lay you down. Once per night, you may protect a player from 1 KP. You may NOT self protect. You and your target are not informed of a successful save. You win with town.

Peanut Butter and Jelly
You are Peanut Butter and Jelly, the town jailkeepers. Once per night, you may knock a player unconscious with your baseball bat, roleblocking them and preventing any actions from resolving on them, including checks and mafia KP. Players that are roleblocked are not informed and will be unable to complete an action. You may NOT self protect. You and your target are not informed of a successful save. You win with town.

Beauty and the Beast
You are Beauty and the Beast, the town parity cops. You have the ability to look past one's appearance and into their heart. Each night you may check one player by sending a PM to the hosts and are told if they have the same or different alignment as the first player that you checked. Your initial check returns no results but is necessary for your proceeding checks. If you are roleblocked or your target is jailed on night one, you will receive "No Result" and your night two check will be used as a baseline for future checks. You may not target yourself. You win with town.

Pinky and the Brain
You are Pinky and The Brain, the mafia goons. One is a genius, the other's insane. I'll let you decide who is who. You have no special powers. You win with mafia.

Ben and Jerry
You are Ben and Jerry, the mafia rolecops. Once per night you may investigate a player to determine their flavor...err role. If you are roleblocked or your target is jailed, you will receive "No Result". You win with mafia.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 01:05:25
February 14 2016 01:57 GMT
#3
Teams
Tictock/Queenfestor As Team Blahvacado the Town Jailkeepers, killed night two
marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple the Vanilla Townies, killed night one
bumatlarge (replaced by Tumblewood)/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum the Mafia Goons, survived
nnn_thekushmountains/Shapelog As Team xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx the Vanilla Townies, modkilled night two
damdred/TheCow As Team Thecownadow the Mafia Role Cops, lynched day two
FecalFeast/[UoN]Sentinel As Team Anal Prolapse the Vanilla Townies, lynched day three
Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies the Vanilla Townies, lynched day one
sandroba/qob As Team Innoncent the Vanilla Townies, endgamed
Koshi/Felkyr As Team Koshi™ the Vanilla Townies, endgamed

+ Show Spoiler +
Senior Players
1. Tictock
2. marvellosity
3. bumatlarge
4. nnn_thekushmountains
5. damdred
6. FecalFeast
7. sandroba
8. Rels
9. Koshi

Junior Players

1. Race Bannon
2. Shapelog
3. Spikasaur
4. Queenfestor
5. TheCow
6. qob
7. [UoN]Sentinel
8. VisceraEyes
9. Felkyr


Replacements
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3.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 06:09:53
February 14 2016 02:46 GMT
#4
Looking for at least one co-host. Let me know if you're interested. :D
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 03:37:20
February 14 2016 03:32 GMT
#5
On February 14 2016 11:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Looking for at least one co-host. Let me know if you're interested. :D

Hmmmmm... already co-hosting the SMT game...
but if you want I can send you like 100 PMs about this game regardless. =D
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 14 2016 04:43 GMT
#6
Wait so does each pair get a QT?

If one player of the pair dies, does the other as well?

And more importantly, is either Chezinu or Onegu around to pair up with me?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
February 14 2016 05:36 GMT
#7
Can co-host. Let me know.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 14 2016 05:50 GMT
#8
I have 0 clue what this is about past reading the role names and title.

/in
I can take that responsibility.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2016 06:04 GMT
#9
On February 14 2016 13:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Wait so does each pair get a QT?


Yes.

On February 14 2016 13:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If one player of the pair dies, does the other as well?


Yes.

On February 14 2016 12:32 disformation wrote:
but if you want I can send you like 100 PMs about this game regardless. =D


No.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2016 13:55 GMT
#10
No cop hate in this setup seems very difficult on mafia, especially with a potential cop/doc setup even if it's a parity cop.
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
February 14 2016 14:03 GMT
#11
/in as jr
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 16:32:10
February 14 2016 16:31 GMT
#12
On February 14 2016 22:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No cop hate in this setup seems very difficult on mafia, especially with a potential cop/doc setup even if it's a parity cop.


The setup is a slightly more mafia friendly version of 2of4 since we replaced the sane cop with a parity cop. It's also the weaker version of the parity cop where you don't get a result unless you survive until day three. For that to happen they need to avoid d1 lynch (1/9), d2 lynch (1/7), n1 shot (1/7 or 1/6), n1 rolecop (1/6 or 1/5), and n2 shot (1/4 or 1/3) which is around a 15% chance of success for a check that you still have to interpret with "same" or "different". If there is a jailer, then either the parity cop of parity cop target getting jailed each night lowers that chance.

I agree partity cop/doc is the harshest for mafia. The single blue 9 player setups typically are mafia favored. I believe mafiascum moved their newbie games over to matrix 6 to address this, but I don't think the setup is unplayable, though maybe others disagree?

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
February 14 2016 16:41 GMT
#13
Oh I miss this
I'm adorable.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 14:45:10
February 15 2016 14:43 GMT
#14
/in and either SR. or JR. (since I am technically one) is fine.

Will We know who is on a Team?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2016 14:50 GMT
#15
On February 15 2016 01:31 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 22:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No cop hate in this setup seems very difficult on mafia, especially with a potential cop/doc setup even if it's a parity cop.


The setup is a slightly more mafia friendly version of 2of4 since we replaced the sane cop with a parity cop. It's also the weaker version of the parity cop where you don't get a result unless you survive until day three. For that to happen they need to avoid d1 lynch (1/9), d2 lynch (1/7), n1 shot (1/7 or 1/6), n1 rolecop (1/6 or 1/5), and n2 shot (1/4 or 1/3) which is around a 15% chance of success for a check that you still have to interpret with "same" or "different". If there is a jailer, then either the parity cop of parity cop target getting jailed each night lowers that chance.

I agree partity cop/doc is the harshest for mafia. The single blue 9 player setups typically are mafia favored. I believe mafiascum moved their newbie games over to matrix 6 to address this, but I don't think the setup is unplayable, though maybe others disagree?


Two players one slot is pretty town-favoured I'd say. I'd be tempted to remove the most town-favoured setups or include a roleblocker instead of / as well as rolecop.
I know normally town needs a little extra help in these games, but at the moment it feels like mafia are being pretty shafted
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 15 2016 14:51 GMT
#16
On February 15 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote:
/in and either SR. or JR. (since I am technically one) is fine.

Will We know who is on a Team?


yep yep
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
February 15 2016 18:37 GMT
#17
On February 15 2016 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 01:31 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2016 22:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No cop hate in this setup seems very difficult on mafia, especially with a potential cop/doc setup even if it's a parity cop.


The setup is a slightly more mafia friendly version of 2of4 since we replaced the sane cop with a parity cop. It's also the weaker version of the parity cop where you don't get a result unless you survive until day three. For that to happen they need to avoid d1 lynch (1/9), d2 lynch (1/7), n1 shot (1/7 or 1/6), n1 rolecop (1/6 or 1/5), and n2 shot (1/4 or 1/3) which is around a 15% chance of success for a check that you still have to interpret with "same" or "different". If there is a jailer, then either the parity cop of parity cop target getting jailed each night lowers that chance.

I agree partity cop/doc is the harshest for mafia. The single blue 9 player setups typically are mafia favored. I believe mafiascum moved their newbie games over to matrix 6 to address this, but I don't think the setup is unplayable, though maybe others disagree?


Two players one slot is pretty town-favoured I'd say. I'd be tempted to remove the most town-favoured setups or include a roleblocker instead of / as well as rolecop.
I know normally town needs a little extra help in these games, but at the moment it feels like mafia are being pretty shafted

Indeed. The ones with 2 town prs are already strongly townfavored if you do not add in the fact that town gets a huuuuge advantage by the hydra-esque stuff.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 15 2016 18:53 GMT
#18
Hydra games were complete town stomps.

Of course, I was town in both so...
Writer@WriterYamato
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 21:27:00
February 15 2016 21:26 GMT
#19
On February 16 2016 03:53 yamato77 wrote:
Hydra games were complete town stomps.

Of course, I was town in both so...


Two of the hydra games before that were both flawless mafia victories so you are clearly the defining factor

I've updated the possible setups to make things a bit more mafia friendly.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 14:39:33
February 16 2016 14:38 GMT
#20
Junior player. Complete newb. /in with marvellosity as senior if you'd be so kind.
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