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On March 02 2016 00:57 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@marv, both cow and damdred have made decent deep thought posts.
I think you may be sheeping outdated sandroba feels.
Can I interest you in a sent lynch? You say Damdred has made decent posts, but his one post that was actually trying to do something you called out as a scum-slip: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 12:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB. There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF. 1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me. 2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town. Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available. Here is what FF said On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant? For a player of my stature im being quite humble. I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend. Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided. So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure. This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob. Can you elaborate more on your Damdred read (which posts do you think were good?) cause I have difficulty reading him. Also, you said you like TheCows post: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 22:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:damdred/thecow
thecow is being tight-lipped for the most part. I checked this out: On March 01 2016 05:44 TheCow wrote:
#243-244 appears to be an attempt to discredit the attack against Sentinel -- his partner. Leveraging the style of qob as well as his newness to sidestep the read. He's talking about these quotes: On March 01 2016 02:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob is new but trying hard to throw scum on my partner because he was aggresive and voted me.
Wowie On March 01 2016 02:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I like that you're trying qob but you're off to a bad start I think it's a smart way to describe what FF is doing. As for damdred, he's reading the thread closely so that gives him townpoints. Verdict: town enough But you missed his other post significant post: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. I don't like this post at all. Even is Sandroba is mistaken about the point of TheCow's post, Sandroba's post was good and the pressure on TheCow is justified. So his reason to find Sandroba scummy is very weak in my opinion, but he does so regardless. It's just a bad reaction to being called out. However! He can read Qob and he feels town, so the slot must be town, right? But! Sandroba is still scummy, because of that one reaction post. He is trying to discredit Sandroba's post by calling it scummy, but at the same time doesn't dare to call him scum. Not a real defense and no progression either. Do you not agree that this post is bad? Why did you leave it out of your analysis?
Reading through the game again and your other your partner is making a lot of sense koshi. Look at this post by him. He is questioning kush on exactly the BS I'm trying to point out.
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ok sandroba you asked for it
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read in reverse:
+ Show Spoiler +kush
03-01-2016
11:40 AM ET (US) but i do that a lot when im town
74Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:38 AM ET (US) /m73 that is what i thought at 1st, but then he contradictions himself about fixing it.
It also would be nice if he had explain them instead of going. They are scum, Now they are, No maybe they are. No I am back to think they are.
73kush
03-01-2016
11:36 AM ET (US) that's why he has too many scum reads, because ha has scumread everyone except rels.
Having too many scumreads is a townie trait I think. You look at your reads and you have too many scumreads so you're like, "hmm im doing it wrong" and you reassess.
72Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:34 AM ET (US) /m71 it just does not make sense that he does not want too many scum reads, but has practically scum read everyone in his posts expect Rels. :/
71kush
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) his read progression looks like mine. have a list one hour and have a totally different one the next.
70kush
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) whys that scummy
69Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) Idk what to think of that team.
Damdred I want to TR
TheCow i want to Scum Read.
68Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:17 AM ET (US) Another point of the cow,
He had a lot of postings about scum reads and left the thread to revised them due to having to many.
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On March 02 2016 01:15 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. yeah this post doesn't really make sense. Contradictions that are super obvious don't make me scumread people though. I read it as sandroba being scummy because he voted thecow without understanding the cow's post (the one about philosophy). I think Sandroba understood TheCows post very well and I fail to see why TheCow would think otherwise. Sure, maybe Sandroba's conclusion about him being scum is incorrect but that's just early pushing. I feel like TheCow's overall reaction and mindset is more likely to come from mafia than town, regardless of the contradiction in the post itself.
On March 02 2016 01:21 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 01:15 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 01:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. yeah this post doesn't really make sense. Contradictions that are super obvious don't make me scumread people though. I read it as sandroba being scummy because he voted thecow without understanding the cow's post (the one about philosophy). I think Sandroba understood TheCows post very well and I fail to see why TheCow would think otherwise. Sure, maybe Sandroba's conclusion about him being scum is incorrect but that's just early pushing. I feel like TheCow's overall reaction and mindset is more likely to come from mafia than town, regardless of the contradiction in the post itself. Sandroba: Says he can't understand the "philosophy" of the thread (w/e that means) "w/e that means"=he doesn't understand it That's not the same... I think he very well understood what TheCow was saying, he just dismisses it as being crap. Still doesn't change the nature of TheCow's reaction though.
On March 02 2016 01:27 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Actually thecow was referring to a specific discussion he didnt' think was useful when he talked about "philosophy": On February 29 2016 10:17 Damdred wrote:
Depends on the circumstances.
My general philosophy after some headaches is lynch when we have a cc situation otherwise let mafia deal with it during the night.
If it's late in game it's best to,ignore the claim and parse them from what they did during the game. Obviously probably will have a cc in this situation. How do you come to that conclusion? I don't think that is true. But even if it is true, again, it doesn't change anything about TheCow's reaction. That was only one part of Sandroba's post. Why are you defending TheCow like this?
Again your partner showing who is boss. This line of questioning happened and kush never gave a reasonable explanation for it.
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On March 04 2016 03:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:read in reverse: + Show Spoiler +kush
03-01-2016
11:40 AM ET (US) but i do that a lot when im town
74Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:38 AM ET (US) /m73 that is what i thought at 1st, but then he contradictions himself about fixing it.
It also would be nice if he had explain them instead of going. They are scum, Now they are, No maybe they are. No I am back to think they are.
73kush
03-01-2016
11:36 AM ET (US) that's why he has too many scum reads, because ha has scumread everyone except rels.
Having too many scumreads is a townie trait I think. You look at your reads and you have too many scumreads so you're like, "hmm im doing it wrong" and you reassess.
72Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:34 AM ET (US) /m71 it just does not make sense that he does not want too many scum reads, but has practically scum read everyone in his posts expect Rels. :/
71kush
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) his read progression looks like mine. have a list one hour and have a totally different one the next.
70kush
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) whys that scummy
69Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) Idk what to think of that team.
Damdred I want to TR
TheCow i want to Scum Read.
68Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:17 AM ET (US) Another point of the cow,
He had a lot of postings about scum reads and left the thread to revised them due to having to many.
YOU STILL DO NOT KNOW FOR 100% IF THIS IS LEGALLLLLL.
For Fuck sake
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sandroba, thoughts about that game breaking evidence that I am town?"
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Game is on pause. Please stop posting.
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On March 04 2016 03:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:read in reverse: + Show Spoiler +kush
03-01-2016
11:40 AM ET (US) but i do that a lot when im town
74Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:38 AM ET (US) /m73 that is what i thought at 1st, but then he contradictions himself about fixing it.
It also would be nice if he had explain them instead of going. They are scum, Now they are, No maybe they are. No I am back to think they are.
73kush
03-01-2016
11:36 AM ET (US) that's why he has too many scum reads, because ha has scumread everyone except rels.
Having too many scumreads is a townie trait I think. You look at your reads and you have too many scumreads so you're like, "hmm im doing it wrong" and you reassess.
72Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:34 AM ET (US) /m71 it just does not make sense that he does not want too many scum reads, but has practically scum read everyone in his posts expect Rels. :/
71kush
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) his read progression looks like mine. have a list one hour and have a totally different one the next.
70kush
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) whys that scummy
69Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) Idk what to think of that team.
Damdred I want to TR
TheCow i want to Scum Read.
68Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:17 AM ET (US) Another point of the cow,
He had a lot of postings about scum reads and left the thread to revised them due to having to many.
I fail to see how that proves anything. You can easily keep up a fake QT throghout the game pretending you are talking about shit. And why shapelog does not show his concerns about cow on the thread? You can see that pretty much every other team have people disagreeing with each others' reads all the time and voicing their concern independently in the thread. why does shapelog never comments on my case on cow then, if he was thinking he was scummy?
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
nnn_thekushmountains and Shapelog the Vanilla Townies As Team xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx have been modkilled.
A couple days kush asked me via PM if you could share your qt in the thread to confirm yourself as town. I responded that it was not allowed. As he has broken this rule, I have decided to modkill their team.
I've updated the OP further in case it was not clear. You are allowed to paraphrase discussions from a quicktopic, but you are not allowed to directly quote it with timestamps as a method to confirm your alignment.
If you have a problem with this decision, please discuss it with me privately via PM or postgame. Please do not discuss it in the thread.
The game is now resumed.
Thanks.
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I am happy as long as i can nominate this for WTF moment of the year. I did not even know that he PM you XD
GG
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welp there goes that idea. you are not a genius anymore VE =/. Maybe you are an evil genius.
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Sorry if I made you rage kush, I really thought you were the last one =/
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gg, i appologize to all the players and especially to shapelog.
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On March 04 2016 00:44 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 12:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Finished with Koshi's filter. His position in this game is mostly MARV IS A MILLION PERCENT MAFIA. This was a tactic I used in the very first game I played against my scumbuddy Shape. This is not Koshi's very first game, and I think that this level of tunneling (though he started to consider other possible scum later on) is not a scum tactic. I take it as him just being convinced by this one sign in marv's filter (hedging) and wanting very much to get him lynched. The intensity dying down I'd call scummy (mafia railing someone for a day or two and then laying off when no one takes to it), but he's still going for it a little. Town lean So Marv is already dead. And Tumble brings up a scum tatic form our game, were we scum read each other hard to avoid assoactivey. I do not understand why this factors in. I mean Marv. already fliped.... @Tumble can you clear this up? Other than that i do not see much wrong with his koshi read.
Kita didn't update the player list, so I never saw flip. Knowing that now I think it was TvT.
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On March 04 2016 03:13 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 03:08 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 04 2016 03:07 Shapelog wrote:
We got 2 lynchs and if TT is correct, a cop claim tomorrow if there is a cop.
Prob. is, we cannot really trust if one of VE/Sand team if they claim.... how would tt know if there's a parity cop.. I am talking about his theory with Sandman suggest there is a a cop and wanted a cc blah.
I was saying that from a mafia perspective, coming into D2 they would be sure that there is a cop out there.
They thought therer could be no JK since no one CC'd, and the only possible role that would be possible is a cop.
There is a chance we have a cop, but i kinda doubt it.
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Wtf, this game...
Not like. I didn't know they were town though.
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Whatever, I'm done with this messed up game.
I think that just lost us a mislynch.
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Yeah that lost us a misslynch that will cost us the game. Everybody knew kush was town. My vote is lockdown on sandroba now.
VE can take the easy win.
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##vote Sandroba and I cba to change it anymore
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EPT
