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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2016 14:50 GMT
#15
On February 15 2016 01:31 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 22:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No cop hate in this setup seems very difficult on mafia, especially with a potential cop/doc setup even if it's a parity cop.


The setup is a slightly more mafia friendly version of 2of4 since we replaced the sane cop with a parity cop. It's also the weaker version of the parity cop where you don't get a result unless you survive until day three. For that to happen they need to avoid d1 lynch (1/9), d2 lynch (1/7), n1 shot (1/7 or 1/6), n1 rolecop (1/6 or 1/5), and n2 shot (1/4 or 1/3) which is around a 15% chance of success for a check that you still have to interpret with "same" or "different". If there is a jailer, then either the parity cop of parity cop target getting jailed each night lowers that chance.

I agree partity cop/doc is the harshest for mafia. The single blue 9 player setups typically are mafia favored. I believe mafiascum moved their newbie games over to matrix 6 to address this, but I don't think the setup is unplayable, though maybe others disagree?


Two players one slot is pretty town-favoured I'd say. I'd be tempted to remove the most town-favoured setups or include a roleblocker instead of / as well as rolecop.
I know normally town needs a little extra help in these games, but at the moment it feels like mafia are being pretty shafted
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2016 14:39 GMT
#21
/in with Spikasaur
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 24 2016 11:24 GMT
#54
Preliminary vote for a standard setup. I don't like the imbalance of some being partnered and others alone
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 26 2016 10:45 GMT
#73
On February 26 2016 15:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Clever girl...

thanks x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 10:39 GMT
#157
On February 29 2016 10:30 sandroba wrote:
Had not put much thought into that, but I believe it's optimal to lynch the person we believe the most is mafia should be lynched regarless of how the teamate is behaving.

Really?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 10:52 GMT
#160
On February 29 2016 11:02 sandroba wrote:
Because mafia is trying to pretend they are town, while town isn't trying to pretend they are mafia. Oversimplified pehaps, but still should be a good guideline.

this explains nothing, kush.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 10:53 GMT
#161
besides, i wanted to talk to someone good. :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 11:31 GMT
#163
On February 29 2016 20:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't worry babe.

it's been too long D:
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 13:25 GMT
#175
On February 29 2016 22:22 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2016 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
On February 29 2016 11:02 sandroba wrote:
Because mafia is trying to pretend they are town, while town isn't trying to pretend they are mafia. Oversimplified pehaps, but still should be a good guideline.

this explains nothing, kush.


I think the unspoken conclusion of what sandroba says is this:
it's easier for mafia to look like town than for town to look like mafia.

It makes sense to me that sandroba would think that with his feels based approach to the game.

it's not unspoken, it just doesn't mean anything.

the huge advantage town has in this setup is having 2 players to evaluate.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 14:40 GMT
#187
On February 29 2016 23:37 qob wrote:
so is the game going to actually start or what.

First 24h are always the slowest, content-wise. It'll come ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 15:07 GMT
#194
On February 29 2016 23:48 Damdred wrote:
Marv what do you think of kush?

somewhat townie based on activity, although it's so early it doesn't mean much.

don't really know why he's answering for sand tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 15:12 GMT
#196
missed that Koshi post first time round, just read it in Shape's post there. Could be a typical koshi-mafia excuse or just fucking around. But it makes me want to lynch him. My cockles are warming.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 15:32 GMT
#199
On March 01 2016 00:30 Damdred wrote:
I'm still so tired I feel drunk when I fixed my breakfast I put the cereal in the fridge and the milk in the cabinet rip me

I'm not sure because his partner said the same thing. (team koshi)

As for any significant on timing I think its just what we were discussing in the thread and to some extent I think he is correct.

How does that change it? Just means it got turned into a joke. I mean, it could easily be a joke, but you know what Koshi's like when he's scumming it up.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 15:38 GMT
#201
On March 01 2016 00:35 Shapelog wrote:
I already have come to the conclusion that Team Koshi, is really just 2 trolls having a fun time.

we'll see. Koshi always plays to win eventually (as town)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 16:28 GMT
#207
On March 01 2016 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 00:35 Shapelog wrote:
I already have come to the conclusion that Team Koshi, is really just 2 trolls having a fun time.

we'll see. Koshi always plays to win eventually (as town)

Will you lynch Ticktock with me? For science?

maybe later

what's the science?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 16:31 GMT
#211
On March 01 2016 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 00:35 Shapelog wrote:
I already have come to the conclusion that Team Koshi, is really just 2 trolls having a fun time.

we'll see. Koshi always plays to win eventually (as town)

Will you lynch Ticktock with me? For science?

maybe later

what's the science?

I'm testing my Ticktock meta. I think he's probably more likely mafia than not based on his entrance. I basically don't even care what he says from here out.

I must admit, I like my science to be a little more rigorous <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 16:34 GMT
#214
On March 01 2016 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
But I skimmed through at least 4 games to arrive at it! The science is sound, friend.

it is?
On February 29 2016 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Glancing at Ticktock's last few towngames, his tone is starkly different this game. However in his most recent scumgame he looks more like he's trying to emulate his townplay rather than just not give a fuck.

Ehhhhh. Ima leave it for now. See what they say.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 16:38 GMT
#220
On March 01 2016 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
...sound within a reasonable margin of error?

COME ON, ITS THE BEST THING IN THE THREAD AND YOU KNOW IT. Did you even read his last few games marv? Did you?

I identified him as mafia in a game I vaguely watched recently, and it was based on the content, rather than "he doesn't look like any game he's played yet"

What's with the hard sell, babycakes?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 16:39 GMT
#221
also, Damdred, update your bloody OP
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 29 2016 16:45 GMT
#228
On March 01 2016 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 01:38 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
...sound within a reasonable margin of error?

COME ON, ITS THE BEST THING IN THE THREAD AND YOU KNOW IT. Did you even read his last few games marv? Did you?

I identified him as mafia in a game I vaguely watched recently, and it was based on the content, rather than "he doesn't look like any game he's played yet"

What's with the hard sell, babycakes?

I meant to go to bed an hour ago and now it's too late to go to bed and am bored. No one else is jumping out at me, so I thought I'd push the only lynch I feel comfortable with.

So should I take you bolding my assessment of his mafia game to imply that you expect him to look like that as mafia?

no, I'm just bolding it to point out the weakness in your own meta usage :>
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