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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 29 2016 22:43 GMT
#401
On March 01 2016 07:41 bumatlarge wrote:
I've had enough of mafia for today, just pretend I said half the things VE said.

You haven't done much to begin with, but since you've announced your presence in the thread, who do you think is scum and why?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 29 2016 22:54 GMT
#402
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 29 2016 22:56 GMT
#403
On March 01 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 07:08 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:01 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:56 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:54 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:46 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:37 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:24 Rels wrote:
[quote]
You're useless. I will push for you lynch if you're still useless in 24 hours.

My mate likes P lynchs, but might I ask. Why are you going to Plynch someone for inactiveness, right as they start doing something?

That answer is "starting to do something" to you ?

he is posting.
That is a 100% increase then he said he was going to do.

No that's a decrease. I think a guy is scum, he thinks he's obv town but doesn't explain why.

Well anyone regardless of alignment is going to think their town (minus me, sometimes I wonder if lord Kitaman is testing me.)
Also how is ^ of posting = a decrease of doing?

?????????
WTF are you saying. You're posting to psot it feels. It seems logical at first glance but you're not following the conversation.

I think VE is scum.
Koshi says he's obvious town.
I ask why.
Koshi doesn't explain.
The end.

Well don't confuse me next time >_<. But at least he is making us think.
Though i do admit it is strange. especially at a time like this. Koshi, I am with Rels on this. May you explain it?

Short Story:
I like VE his vista. I like his conversation with marv. I have no problem with his conversation with Rels. What VE did towards Rels is not mafia indicative. If he doesn't think TT is mafia he shouldn't be convinced by that little meta thingie. Why would a mafia not leave a door open to scumread more people?

Anyway. VE not mafia.

What?
If he thinks TT is not mafia, he should not be convinced by meta reasons.
Why would a mafia not leave a door open to scumread more people?

It sounds like it is more of a scummy reason than a townie reason Koshi. If VE was scum, and thought TT was not. He should not be convinced by meta reasons and leave a door open to scumread more people? makes more since than "If VE is town, and thought TT was not. He should not be convinced by meta reasons and Why would a mafia VE not leave a door open to scumread more people?

I am not saying VE is scum. I am saying your read makes no sense for him to be town.

Ok. I might have not read the game correctly.

I thought VE thought TT was town and Rels thought TT could still be mafia. Rels then made a point on why TT could be mafia and VE refused to change his mind and Rels got mad and scumread VE.

Is this incorrect?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 29 2016 22:57 GMT
#404
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

Show nested quote +
never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

You realize I will not answer that question right? Somebody else should do it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 29 2016 23:00 GMT
#405
Thanks to Rels for asking VE the same questions I would have.

On March 01 2016 05:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
[T] The New Personality Mafia Town geript Lynched Day 6
[M][T] Season of the Witch 2 Town Grandier Killed Night 3
[M][N] Haunted Mansion Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4
[M][N] TL Mafia LXXIII: The Nutcracker Mafia Vanilla Endgamed Day 4

are the games I used. It's an excerpt from the TL Mafia Database under the heading "Ticktock" freely available for everyone to use.


I'm confused VE, of these games you listed I was town in the first 3 but the only game I recall actually putting effort into early (and even then not much) was Season of the Witch.

You also seem to go back and forth in this meta on me.
On February 29 2016 20:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
And I'm disliking Ticktock from tone - I seem to recall him being way more matter-of-factly as town, and in this game it seems like he's just typing to type, trying to be funny, etc. Gonna go check my fax, but in the meantime.

##Vote: Blahvacado

On February 29 2016 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Glancing at Ticktock's last few towngames, his tone is starkly different this game. However in his most recent scumgame he looks more like he's trying to emulate his townplay rather than just not give a fuck.

Ehhhhh. Ima leave it for now. See what they say.


2 Hours inbetween posts and it sounds like you don't really believe your own meta-read anymore. But you keep pushing it anyway?

It also took you a long time to even talk about how many games you looked at, and then a lot of pushing from Rels before you even threw out 4 games of mine.
On March 01 2016 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
But I skimmed through at least 4 games to arrive at it! The science is sound, friend.


I also find it interesting that you claimed to have checked into my meta, but then was suprised when Shape mentioned he's played with me as scum recently.
On March 01 2016 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 01:37 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
...sound within a reasonable margin of error?

COME ON, ITS THE BEST THING IN THE THREAD AND YOU KNOW IT. Did you even read his last few games marv? Did you?

I got raped by Scum TT...twice....I do not have to read the games to remember.
As much as I would love to vote out of spite. I hate to vote purely on meta.

Can I get a link to those games? :D


It's really weird to me how you've gone about this read, and it doesn't even look like you really put much effort into this meta read. I dunno who posted it but I agree that this looks like you saw something I did and made up a meta read to reinforce it (you even mentioned this meta-read before you looked at my games, in the post where you say did has just looked into my old games you sound less sure).

So couple of things I'd like to know.

Why did you only look at 4 games? I've got tons more in the database and you really only needed to read like a page of each game to check what you wanted to check.

Why did you ignore some of the games where you have actually played with me? Such as my first scum game Holy Guardians?

This post especially stood out to me:
On March 01 2016 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 00:35 Shapelog wrote:
I already have come to the conclusion that Team Koshi, is really just 2 trolls having a fun time.

we'll see. Koshi always plays to win eventually (as town)

Will you lynch Ticktock with me? For science?

maybe later

what's the science?

I'm testing my Ticktock meta. I think he's probably more likely mafia than not based on his entrance. I basically don't even care what he says from here out.


I thought maybe this was a joke when I first read it, but based on the way you've been pushing this read on me I don't think it was.

Why would you take this much stock in a poorly researched meta-read and the ~5 posts I'd made at that point without ever even trying to interact with me?
I can take that responsibility.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 29 2016 23:01 GMT
#406
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 29 2016 23:02 GMT
#407
On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider.

For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town.

Mafia is still marv.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 29 2016 23:04 GMT
#408
On March 01 2016 06:13 sandroba wrote:
Quite an arduous job to read without the filter function, but from the town game I read from him his tone is more inquisitive / tentative / hedging his bets as opposed to more assertive in his mafia game.
I gather that Cow and qop played together a bit so Cow sheeping qop's sentinel read does not look as fake as I had thoght. Still, his overall tone looks more in line with his mafia game.


Since you seem fairly convinced Cow is scum. What do you think of Damdred's posting?

What did you get from your questions to him at the start of the game?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 29 2016 23:05 GMT
#409
On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider.

For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town.

Mafia is still marv.


I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia?

Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town?
I can take that responsibility.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
February 29 2016 23:06 GMT
#410
Team Anal Prolapse and Team Fairly Odd Couple are my current pool.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 29 2016 23:06 GMT
#411
On March 01 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

You realize I will not answer that question right? Somebody else should do it.

My junior just told me it could be mafia on mafia. Maybe it is.
We desperately need help from somebody else.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 29 2016 23:10 GMT
#412
On March 01 2016 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider.

For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town.

Mafia is still marv.


I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia?

Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town?

This is how I could explain it, it's not really good explained but that's kinda it:

I think marv is mafia because he is hedging. The post I quoted for instance, he knows I am an easy misslynch atm, he knows Rels is pushing me, so when Sentinel says I am town, he just discredits me by saying "I am obvious town when I am town" which is perfect because when I am obvious town he can just decide to ignore me as mafia. And when I am not being obvious town he just planted this little seed in the head of a person who has me as town.

Mafia type play.


Normally marv uses that sentence in a totally other context. It is just bad here. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Nowhere in marv his filter he has me as mafia. He is just suggesting it very shadowly. Which is very unlike marv.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 29 2016 23:11 GMT
#413
On March 01 2016 08:06 TheCow wrote:
Team Anal Prolapse and Team Fairly Odd Couple are my current pool.


I kinda get your read on FF's team, but what about Marv's team is making you think they are scum?

Also what do you think about Sandroba's read on you? And what does it suggest about his alignment?

First one is in regards to your opening post.
On March 01 2016 05:39 sandroba wrote:
His post sounds fake as shit. Says he can't understand the "philosophy" of the thread (w/e that means) and it's mostly filler discussion right when the game is starting to pick up, and his post itselft is filler with no reasoning for anything or any new ideas. The comentary on the meta ignores the fact we are questioning the player who made said meta and dismisses it for no reason. Pretty much as generic filler fake post as you can get. Doesn't sound like a townie interested in people's alignments at all.

On March 01 2016 06:13 sandroba wrote:
Quite an arduous job to read without the filter function, but from the town game I read from him his tone is more inquisitive / tentative / hedging his bets as opposed to more assertive in his mafia game.
I gather that Cow and qop played together a bit so Cow sheeping qop's sentinel read does not look as fake as I had thoght. Still, his overall tone looks more in line with his mafia game.


I can take that responsibility.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 29 2016 23:13 GMT
#414
I also am going to really stop posting in this thread now unless somebody asks me a direct question.
I had a good night of sleep.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
February 29 2016 23:15 GMT
#415
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.

sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 29 2016 23:23 GMT
#416
On March 01 2016 08:13 Koshi wrote:
I also am going to really stop posting in this thread now unless somebody asks me a direct question.

How about you answer mine then

On March 01 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

You realize I will not answer that question right? Somebody else should do it.

What is town on town and mafia on mafia?

On March 01 2016 08:06 TheCow wrote:
Team Anal Prolapse and Team Fairly Odd Couple are my current pool.

You actually want to give some reasoning for once or you just going to sheep qob till the cows come home?
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Queenfestor
Profile Joined February 2016
25 Posts
February 29 2016 23:24 GMT
#417
On March 01 2016 08:13 Koshi wrote:
I also am going to really stop posting in this thread now unless somebody asks me a direct question.

can we be friends?

anyways VE is the newbie on his team right? how comes you are so talkative right away?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 29 2016 23:26 GMT
#418
On March 01 2016 08:24 Queenfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 08:13 Koshi wrote:
I also am going to really stop posting in this thread now unless somebody asks me a direct question.

can we be friends?

anyways VE is the newbie on his team right? how comes you are so talkative right away?

Sure.
If VE is the newbie on his team he isn't really the newbie in his team.
Dnu?
I had a good night of sleep.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 23:27 GMT
#419
On March 01 2016 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.

Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them.


Or we're not too sure what to say?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 29 2016 23:29 GMT
#420
On March 01 2016 08:27 Spikasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.

Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them.


Or we're not too sure what to say?

Your partner's said less than he normally does as town and you haven't said jack. I don't think you're blue.
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