EPTOn February 22 2016 12:25 rsoultin wrote:
less than 10 minutes?
less than 10 minutes?
ah, but looks liked he'd returned to the thread for the last 30 mins leading up to EoD :/ ye idk then
it's a long time to sit on the shape vote lol ><
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rsoultin
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ah, but looks liked he'd returned to the thread for the last 30 mins leading up to EoD :/ ye idk then it's a long time to sit on the shape vote lol >< | ||
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Trfel
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 And he's actually been here the entire time, too, basically.... Just never actually did anything.But the things he has actually done aren't completely horrible? Mostly just because there's not much there to judge, but I kinda hate it. If scott31337 is town, he's ideal lynchbait But GlowingBear didn't push him....I just feel like he has to be scum, but I feel so uncomfortable voting for him.... Meh. | ||
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rsoultin
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and an explanation of scott's EoD 2...why you didn't just vote GB when you were apparently already scumreading him and why the comment on "stirring shit up"...like what did you see that made you think that specifically? i'll prob have questions for TT too but his filter's longer so i started with the others @.@ also, the GB thing post-lynch tumble... | ||
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Tictock
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I come back to find people talking about the same stuff I brought up N1. I can't even be upset that you guys ignored me then about it too kus we lynched mafia yesterday. I'm not sure I shouldn't just play some SC or something tonight and let you all do your thing. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 22 2016 12:49 Tictock wrote: This is weird. I come back to find people talking about the same stuff I brought up N1. I can't even be upset that you guys ignored me then about it too kus we lynched mafia yesterday. I'm not sure I shouldn't just play some SC or something tonight and let you all do your thing. hold! i actually caught one of you in-thread! your palmar vs. scott read you flipped from a kinda townread based on truffle's read on palmar to saying palmar's filter was worse than scott's? elaborate | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 22 2016 12:52 rsoultin wrote: hold! i actually caught one of you in-thread! your palmar vs. scott read you flipped from a kinda townread based on truffle's read on palmar to saying palmar's filter was worse than scott's? elaborate to add onto this, i know you're scumreading tumble but you're not sure on him and you keep saying scott is town, so i'm not sure how you're seeing this game right now tbh -_- what exactly were gb and (tumble?) doing at EoD1, then? also lol >> if you're gonna hyper focus on a list title it's prob worthwhile to point out that the only one outside his original PoE list on his lynch list later just so happened to be conveniently up for lynch. for some reason that just stands out a bit more than but but but he was on the bad lynch list! | ||
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rsoultin
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Trfel
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So for now I'm at Tictock, Tumblewood, and scott31337, two of which are scum? Cool, I guess? I hate POE but I can't see how it isn't scott here? | ||
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Tictock
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Everything GB did was probably just pure WIFOM play but I'm sure he tried to go down in a way that would give his team a leg up. If GB/Scott/Tumble is the scumteam, and we lynched town!Palmar D1 and our vig shot town!Eden N1 then I'm submitting this game for worst town 2016. | ||
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Trfel
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Tictock
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On February 22 2016 12:52 rsoultin wrote: hold! i actually caught one of you in-thread! your palmar vs. scott read you flipped from a kinda townread based on truffle's read on palmar to saying palmar's filter was worse than scott's? elaborate Yea, I townread Trfel, and he had a decent explanation for his townread on Palmar so I went with that when forming early reads. When it came time to consolidate in that crazy EoD I thought Palmar looked worse than Scott, I didn't take Trfel's word for it at that point. Plus I didn't and still don't see what the push on Scott D1 was about. I'll admit that I really only have D1 VCA to backup my read on Scott, but I think reading him by his activity/involvedness (shutup spell-check that is so too a word) is a terrible heuristic. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 22 2016 13:10 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, is there any possible way that Breshke could be mafia here? given his d1 i wouldn't have said so, but i'll look back through all the filters tomorrow, too lol >< including yours! muahaha (just so i can be fairly certain of my townreads and make sure i'm not calling someone town too easily) noon is prob my least confident, but tbf he's also the one i'm least familiar with and that's why | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 22 2016 13:07 Tictock wrote: My real issue here is that Scott/Tumble is just too fucking easy. Everything GB did was probably just pure WIFOM play but I'm sure he tried to go down in a way that would give his team a leg up. If GB/Scott/Tumble is the scumteam, and we lynched town!Palmar D1 and our vig shot town!Eden N1 then I'm submitting this game for worst town 2016. @.@ palmar getting lynched for that nonsense isn't "worst" anything, though i agree that the vig shot was pretty blah also this is just never an argument. scum teams are RNGd -shrugs- and a mostly inactive scum team would make a lot more sense with the d1 votecount, assuming that scott is scum | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 22 2016 13:15 Tictock wrote: Yea, I townread Trfel, and he had a decent explanation for his townread on Palmar so I went with that when forming early reads. When it came time to consolidate in that crazy EoD I thought Palmar looked worse than Scott, I didn't take Trfel's word for it at that point. Plus I didn't and still don't see what the push on Scott D1 was about. I'll admit that I really only have D1 VCA to backup my read on Scott, but I think reading him by his activity/involvedness (shutup spell-check that is so too a word) is a terrible heuristic. yeah, see this is my problem -_- when i read your filter i got all of this but what i fail to see are the whys why did you think scott had a cleaner/better filter than palmar? don't just tell me that you thought it | ||
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Trfel
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On February 22 2016 13:16 rsoultin wrote: The only reason I have at the moment to potentially scumread nooniansoong would be that his reads are too good for him to be town.given his d1 i wouldn't have said so, but i'll look back through all the filters tomorrow, too lol >< including yours! muahaha (just so i can be fairly certain of my townreads and make sure i'm not calling someone town too easily) noon is prob my least confident, but tbf he's also the one i'm least familiar with and that's why But I'm thinking that this is really really stupid. So, this aside, if he's scum, he's playing a really incredible game and at this point I think I'm more sure of him than Breshke, though Breshke is still probably town. Tictock, do you mind explaining why you felt that Palmar's filter was worse than scott's on Day 1? I'd characterize scott's filter as simply not really being present, and Palmar's filter more of trolling/minimal explanations for reads. To me, this makes Palmar's filter feel more useful (if you ignore the useless posts, I felt that Palmar still had more content). I'm assuming you disagree, or are you thinking about it differently, or what? | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 22 2016 12:07 rsoultin wrote: yet no vote until much later lol >< with gb on me and people bandying around the paranoia reads, it's possible scum was testing the waters here? the reluctance to push the counterwagons is pretty weird from both sides if scott is actually town also, the bolded smacks a lot of TMI to me, given the weirdest thing about GB's claim was how little it actually accomplished from a scum perspective (>> sorry shining, but seriously, if there's a known vig in the game who else would have shot eden like a moron lol >< or then proceeded to question shape so weirdly about the track?) why does scott immediately assume gb is just fucking around, and why doesn't he vote him if he's scumreading him? (plus i still say his early townread on me for things i do every single game which he always scumreads me for is pretty weird xP i would so love for that trash read to be right lol) comment on this, too, please ^^ if you can't see why scott is being scumread i'd like to know why you think our questions/reads are invalid also, what don't you understand about VCA not clearing scott? gb screams some bs about votes piling up on palmar and instead of voting scott as would make sense there, he votes off-wagon. like you say he should have voted palmar, but you do realize that by not voting scott he saved him just as surely as if he had voted palmar there, right? it's not rocket-science and ppl have been explaining to you that this EoD 1 analysis you've been doing is bad for quite some time now what don't you get? | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 22 2016 13:21 Trfel wrote: The only reason I have at the moment to potentially scumread nooniansoong would be that his reads are too good for him to be town. But I'm thinking that this is really really stupid. So, this aside, if he's scum, he's playing a really incredible game and at this point I think I'm more sure of him than Breshke, though Breshke is still probably town. Tictock, do you mind explaining why you felt that Palmar's filter was worse than scott's on Day 1? I'd characterize scott's filter as simply not really being present, and Palmar's filter more of trolling/minimal explanations for reads. To me, this makes Palmar's filter feel more useful (if you ignore the useless posts, I felt that Palmar still had more content). I'm assuming you disagree, or are you thinking about it differently, or what? lol >< i've seen this thing about him lately in the games i've been hosting, but actually noon's been playing some pretty good games here latel...so yeah i wouldn't put too much weight on that well, i'll take another look at bresh...i'll be honest here and admit that though i noticed he was largely absent for at least the latter half of d2, i've kinda not been reading him too closely ever since i townread him earlier | ||
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Trfel
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On February 22 2016 13:27 rsoultin wrote: No, nooniansoong is a terrible player who can never have his reads correct lol >< i've seen this thing about him lately in the games i've been hosting, but actually noon's been playing some pretty good games here latel...so yeah i wouldn't put too much weight on that well, i'll take another look at bresh...i'll be honest here and admit that though i noticed he was largely absent for at least the latter half of d2, i've kinda not been reading him too closely ever since i townread him earlier  I know, which is why I said it was a really stupid reason and I'm currently giving it exactly zero weight. The point I tried to convey was that I've played in most of the games with the "new style" nooniansoong and I that's the best reason I have to scumread him, and it's complete garbage. Plus he deserves a dig or two for last game (okay not really but I'll pretend) | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 22 2016 13:29 Trfel wrote: No, nooniansoong is a terrible player who can never have his reads correct I know, which is why I said it was a really stupid reason and I'm currently giving it exactly zero weight. The point I tried to convey was that I've played in most of the games with the "new style" nooniansoong and I that's the best reason I have to scumread him, and it's complete garbage. Plus he deserves a dig or two for last game (okay not really but I'll pretend)lol i was pretty sure you were joking but it can sometimes be hard to tell with you >> | ||
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