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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
That's actually not a bad point, I forgot Scott was mafia in Huanted mansion, and to some extent his posts do look similar. I kinda feel like that's just how scott posts though as either alignment. He's also not making excuses for his abscense or making promises that he'll do something later on which was one of the scummier things he did in that game imo. My gut is pretty sure scott is town here though... | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I know I know, but give me a break. Scotts not around to concede with me, so I gotta try right? | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
So imagine the world where it is GB Tumble and Scott Scott is afk and there is 4 votes on palmar and only 3 on Scott. GB and tumble don't want to vote together because scum normally want to avoid that unless they had good justifications for their votes. So tumble votes palmar which brings its to 5 to 3 which is actually fairly safe because the only people voting off wagon are Scott (not going to vote for himself), kush(said he was fine with a a palmar lynch so won't vote to save him and shining who was doing his own thing. But yeah this is all a narrative I've created obviously but I'm just showing there is the situation where the votes arnt that weird | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Looking at the votes again it was 4 v 2 (Palmar v Scott) after I voted for Palmar. This was when GB put his vote on Kush. After that it was Rsoul swapping to Scott that tied the wagons 3v3 but Eden voted at like the same time so it was 4v3 5 min till EoD Tumble and SL voted at about the same time, with SL's switch to scott being what made the wagon's tied. So you are correct that GB's vote came at a time when scott was not really looking like one of the main wagons, but I still feel like it's weird that GB would have kept his vote off by itself if it was Scum v Town. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On February 22 2016 10:32 Breshke wrote: Also trefel has mentioned it and it's weird giving reasons that you yourself is town but the D1 votes is one of the biggest reasons I think you should think I am town I don't understand. What about your vote was alignment indicative? Especially before we know Scott's alignment... | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I'll be back sometime. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On February 22 2016 10:37 Tictock wrote: I don't understand. What about your vote was alignment indicative? Especially before we know Scott's alignment... Even if they are both town why do I as scum choose to push Scott over palamr who had a 100% scum read on me and when actually tries is an amazing player | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
also lol theshining remember when you used your vig against eden instead of scott...genius vig shot right there. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On February 22 2016 10:35 Tictock wrote: Humm maybe you have a point GB. Looking at the votes again it was 4 v 2 (Palmar v Scott) after I voted for Palmar. This was when GB put his vote on Kush. After that it was Rsoul swapping to Scott that tied the wagons 3v3 but Eden voted at like the same time so it was 4v3 5 min till EoD Tumble and SL voted at about the same time, with SL's switch to scott being what made the wagon's tied. So you are correct that GB's vote came at a time when scott was not really looking like one of the main wagons, but I still feel like it's weird that GB would have kept his vote off by itself if it was Scum v Town. Also if it is town v scum then the other two scum members don't want to both vote the town wagon because that makes them look like shit and they are normally hyper aware of that | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 20 2016 01:52 scott31337 wrote: So GB fakeclaimed - lovely - I think he's stirring the pot Shining looks legit I love how rsoul still wants me dead I had a dream last night she was mafia with Trfel and GB so it must be true  yet no vote until much later lol >< with gb on me and people bandying around the paranoia reads, it's possible scum was testing the waters here? the reluctance to push the counterwagons is pretty weird from both sides if scott is actually town also, the bolded smacks a lot of TMI to me, given the weirdest thing about GB's claim was how little it actually accomplished from a scum perspective (>> sorry shining, but seriously, if there's a known vig in the game who else would have shot eden like a moron lol >< or then proceeded to question shape so weirdly about the track?) why does scott immediately assume gb is just fucking around, and why doesn't he vote him if he's scumreading him? (plus i still say his early townread on me for things i do every single game which he always scumreads me for is pretty weird xP i would so love for that trash read to be right lol) | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote: SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind. On February 19 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote: Wow I am regretting my Palmar vote more and more by the hour. The reason I voted was because there were three wagons sitting at two votes (Scott, Shining, and... GB, I think) and I thought they all sucked. They were all effectively p-lynches on people who hadn't been active, and those hit town more often than not. Tumbles filter really confuses me. Top post was pre D1 lynch second post was post lynch. First of all im fairly sure the lynches were never at 2 votes each especially not when tumble ended up voting for palmar and also in the first post he calls people good lynches and in the second he says the same people were bad wagons. I know there was a lynch inbetween so we got more information but i don't really see him using any of that information to make this change of reads. Ive pointed out other disconnects in his posts before and im not sure if it is just because he is a new player or not but he also doesn't feel very involved in the thread and when he is around i feel like he just takes pot shots at people. Still want to lynch scott first because cant risk bringing him to mylo | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote: No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote. The 'Do Not Lynch' List Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively. Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game. Tictock, for making clear and useful points. The 'Bad Lynch' List Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner. Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart. Kush, but I don't know why. Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse. The 'Wait And See' List GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late. That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread." Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow. I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote. On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote: SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind. Also, re: Tumble, this is just interesting...I know that TT brought it up before, but the thing that caught my attention here is that Palmar is literally the only one on this second list that wasn't in his "wait and see" or "viable lynch" lists...though tbf I can at least see it being possible that he just genuinely didn't want to lynch the mostly afk players before they got a chance to play, and those were the only other ones up for lynch. Tumble, why GB in particular of the other three lynches and not, say, scott? ^ quote for reference to what i'm asking about | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 22 2016 12:17 Breshke wrote: Tumbles filter really confuses me. Top post was pre D1 lynch second post was post lynch. First of all im fairly sure the lynches were never at 2 votes each especially not when tumble ended up voting for palmar and also in the first post he calls people good lynches and in the second he says the same people were bad wagons. I know there was a lynch inbetween so we got more information but i don't really see him using any of that information to make this change of reads. Ive pointed out other disconnects in his posts before and im not sure if it is just because he is a new player or not but he also doesn't feel very involved in the thread and when he is around i feel like he just takes pot shots at people. Still want to lynch scott first because cant risk bringing him to mylo Lol >< ninja'd a bit... but actually yeah breshke they were actually all around 2 i think when i just looked through the vote thread? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 18 2016 05:52 disformation wrote: Vote Count - Day 1 Palmar (3): Sicklucker(2): Ticktock, GlowingBear(2): scott31337 (2): The Shining (1): Eden1892, Breshke(1): Palmar Shapelog (1): Tumblewood (1): The Shining, Trfel (0): Eden1892 (0): Not Voting (0): At this time, Palmar is slated to be lynched. Day 1 ends in on 21:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. here it is | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
also preflip association there of him voting GB to save scott | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On February 22 2016 12:24 rsoultin wrote: so my problem here is while i get not wanting to lynch afk players, i don't get lynching someone he seemed to have at least as a partial townread over the 3 afk players. it's counter-intuitive @.@ yeah this is a really good point | ||
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