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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 22 2016 05:53 GMT
#1621
But why was my post bad
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 22 2016 06:02 GMT
#1622
It's exactly what I'd expect you to post as scum? I'm not sure how to explain

You're assuming what others see the game as and painting a world based on that

There's also a kinda circular logic going on.

"My PoE is these 3 people, those 3 should share my reads and thus find this easy, it's weird that that isn't happening..."
I can take that responsibility.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 22 2016 06:19 GMT
#1623
On February 22 2016 15:02 Tictock wrote:
It's exactly what I'd expect you to post as scum? I'm not sure how to explain

You're assuming what others see the game as and painting a world based on that

There's also a kinda circular logic going on.

"My PoE is these 3 people, those 3 should share my reads and thus find this easy, it's weird that that isn't happening..."


its not just my poe though. its near enough to rsoultins, trefels and noons maybe bar like 1 person.

I don't think you guys should share my reads thats the point, either you DO share my reads and its an ez game for you to figure out or you don't share my reads and shit is catastrophically fucked and you should be trying to work out who from the "townreads" is mafia.

Like I said you were doing this but tumble and scott arn't

Also yes i was assuming how they seee the game but only from information from their posts.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
February 22 2016 06:53 GMT
#1624
Gdi, I leave after no one's there and all of a sudden 5 new pages appear.
This is a weird situation for me. I'm certain that Scott is scum (basically putting no effort whatsoever into solving the game, though apparently that's normal for him? Also his afk voting is pretty scummy, but this is all pretty obvious anyway), so the game should be easy-- only one more scum, right? How hard could it be? But neither breshke nor tictock (the only people I'm seriously considering as scum) are looking definitely town or definitely scum to me, and apparently I'm the supposed third scum even though I felt pretty good about this game.
Someone asked me about my reason for hesitating on Scott around EoD1. Basically, I thought that Scott hadn't done much that was alignment indicative by that point, and he would have been a super easy mislynch for mafia to push. I'm no longer hesitant because he hasn't stepped it up at all since then-- almost stepped it down.
I won't explain why I did everything I did because it's not going to make anyone believe me, so once I wake out I'm just looking at what other people do.
good times for all
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 22 2016 10:49 GMT
#1625
Yawn...everything happened while I was asleep again.
Just skimmed.everything.
Trfel fuck you for bringing thAt game up. You didn't reach out to help me townread you. And shape fooled you as well.
Also I wonder how long before you all decide to sheep me. You might have to mislynch tumble first d4.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 22 2016 12:25 GMT
#1626
On February 22 2016 14:50 Tictock wrote:
Well Bre's post was pretty bad tbh.

Like I'm at

The Shining - + Show Spoiler +
Confirmed Town + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil:Impossible, yet still fun

Breshke - + Show Spoiler +
Feels like the Breshke that I remember. Sometimes awkward but pushes for info and talks things out with people in a logical way. I haven't seen a scum game from him recently, but I know he feels awkward in a QT with extra info. Up till that last post I don't see any signs of agenda in his posts. + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil: Possible

Trfel - + Show Spoiler +
Reads seem fluid, sometimes terrible, but genuine. Over-focus on meta is questionable but probably NAI. My own terrible meta on Trfel: He's pretty fluid and informal in interactions, as scum I've seen him do very pristine WoT style posts. + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil: Nothing Happens...

Rsoultin - + Show Spoiler +
Pretty open in opinion if sometimes confusing. Seems to have genuine reads and progression in them. Tbh kinda trusting my other townreads on her, I'm not sure what her scum style is. + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil: Possible, though a little painful.


Scott31337 - + Show Spoiler +
D1 VCA, he's posted little but seems to be giving his thoughts. Voted GB before it was cool. + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil: Yea... maybe he is scum


nooniansoong - + Show Spoiler +
If this comes as a suprise you haven't actually been reading my posts. There has been a lot of little things that feel off to me about Kush and tbh I think he's in the prime spot to be riding credit from the GB lynch. + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil: Oh we are already wearing this one, I've been tinfoiling about this read since Kush was wanting to push me based on pre-flip associations with GB


I will admit, if kush is scum he's playing great. He's engaged and actively pushing his reads just like a towny should. I'd imagine that a step up in his town-play lately would also mean a step-up in scum play though. Maybe not to this level?

Maybe if scott flips red I'd believe Kush is town... maybe

Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler +
Blah, kinda did a thing + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil: Waste of effort


And I've been pretty clear about my scott read.

It's also not impossible that one of us might be considering Bre or Trfel so it was kinda weird to assume that your PoE is everyone's PoE.


Very strong scumread on me.
Due to little things you can't even think to mention. Then you have a paragraph about how im probably town...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 22 2016 12:33 GMT
#1627
So I'm sick might not be able to do much in the next few days depending on how sick but maybe I'll be on all the time if I'm still well enough to play

Sorry
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 22 2016 12:35 GMT
#1628
In case I don't come back for a while, please please please don't lynch tumble before Scott
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
February 22 2016 13:23 GMT
#1629
I refuse to die until Dictator Shining the 1st rises! #FIGHTDAPOWER!
+ Show Spoiler +
GG
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 22 2016 13:33 GMT
#1630
im voting scott.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 22 2016 14:06 GMT
#1631
[QUOTE]On February 22 2016 14:50 Tictock wrote:
Scott31337 - D1 VCA, he's posted little but seems to be giving his thoughts. Voted GB before it was cool.

nooniansoong - + Show Spoiler +
If this comes as a suprise you haven't actually been reading my posts. There has been a lot of little things that feel off to me about Kush and tbh I think he's in the prime spot to be riding credit from the GB lynch. + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil: Oh we are already wearing this one, I've been tinfoiling about this read since Kush was wanting to push me based on pre-flip associations with GB


I will admit, if kush is scum he's playing great. He's engaged and actively pushing his reads just like a towny should. I'd imagine that a step up in his town-play lately would also mean a step-up in scum play though. Maybe not to this level?

Maybe if scott flips red I'd believe Kush is town... maybe

Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler +
Blah, kinda did a thing + Show Spoiler +
Tinfoil: Waste of effort

[QUOTE]

So scott is town because he voted GB before it was cool, but I ALSO voted GB very early on d1, went to shape for about half an hour, then went back to GB.
So if it's enough to townread scott for why not me?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 22 2016 17:48 GMT
#1632
Honestly I forgot you voted GB first D1 Kush, I was gunna make a mode dedicated post about you but stuff happened. There should be some evidence of the stuff I'm talking about in my filter, but mostly I've been tinfoiling about you and GB going at it like you did D1 to try and distance yourselves.

I also thought you were jumping the gun with the pre-flip associations and now I wonder if it was you trying to setup mislynches after GB flipped.

You are right thouh, the vote on GB D1 doesn't mean much and is not the basis for either my read on you or scott.
I can take that responsibility.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 22 2016 17:51 GMT
#1633
On February 23 2016 02:48 Tictock wrote:
Honestly I forgot you voted GB first D1 Kush, I was gunna make a mode dedicated post about you but stuff happened. There should be some evidence of the stuff I'm talking about in my filter, but mostly I've been tinfoiling about you and GB going at it like you did D1 to try and distance yourselves.

I also thought you were jumping the gun with the pre-flip associations and now I wonder if it was you trying to setup mislynches after GB flipped.

You are right thouh, the vote on GB D1 doesn't mean much and is not the basis for either my read on you or scott.


What is the basis of your scumread on Scott exactly? Becuse you just listed it as your basis.

And What is the basis of your read on me?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 22 2016 18:50 GMT
#1634
So let me get some thoughts out on the thread - today's been busy but I'm mostly caught up at work (not with the thread though)

GB was mafia - good job
I am feeling better about noonian since of his vote and stances

the NK's are straight forward unless we hit mafia which kind of sucks, so lets some of the spammier people get a free pass, but it is what it is.

I'll try to get some more thoughts out and re-read Breshke's filter and go from there. Sorry I've been pretty slack but after I eat I should have some time if I dont get any more tickets.

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 22 2016 18:59 GMT
#1635
No scrumreads? I have Breshke still as one and I'm voting for him - the thing is, who would the second one be?

Tictock is trying to solve the game - he feels town - he could go after me and he's not, he's looking at VCA/etc

Noon went after me the same way last game and he was town - voted GB day 1 with me (but was it when it wouldn't matter? I'm doubtful)

I've given up on Rsoul, she did the AtE on me and like I said with that crap I have to say she's town and I'll never play with her again if she isn't.

Breshke makes the most sense to me, he's felt off since Day 1. Palmar mindmeld

The other scum is the one I'm having difficulties figuring out - every one else has townpoints for them. I mean Tumble's massive notes as scum? lol
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 22 2016 19:01 GMT
#1636
On February 23 2016 02:51 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2016 02:48 Tictock wrote:
Honestly I forgot you voted GB first D1 Kush, I was gunna make a mode dedicated post about you but stuff happened. There should be some evidence of the stuff I'm talking about in my filter, but mostly I've been tinfoiling about you and GB going at it like you did D1 to try and distance yourselves.

I also thought you were jumping the gun with the pre-flip associations and now I wonder if it was you trying to setup mislynches after GB flipped.

You are right thouh, the vote on GB D1 doesn't mean much and is not the basis for either my read on you or scott.


What is the basis of your scumread on Scott exactly? Becuse you just listed it as your basis.

And What is the basis of your read on me?


I've been really clear that. I don't think scott is scum and why. Maybe I'm wrong and he flips mafia today and then you all lynch me kus i stood up for my read on, totally fine with that outcome since we can still afford one mislynch.

You're gunna have to wait for me to be off work to discuss my read on you, I've said about all. I can without looking through your filter again.
I can take that responsibility.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 22 2016 19:55 GMT
#1637
On February 23 2016 04:01 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2016 02:51 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 23 2016 02:48 Tictock wrote:
Honestly I forgot you voted GB first D1 Kush, I was gunna make a mode dedicated post about you but stuff happened. There should be some evidence of the stuff I'm talking about in my filter, but mostly I've been tinfoiling about you and GB going at it like you did D1 to try and distance yourselves.

I also thought you were jumping the gun with the pre-flip associations and now I wonder if it was you trying to setup mislynches after GB flipped.

You are right thouh, the vote on GB D1 doesn't mean much and is not the basis for either my read on you or scott.


What is the basis of your scumread on Scott exactly? Becuse you just listed it as your basis.

And What is the basis of your read on me?


I've been really clear that. I don't think scott is scum and why. Maybe I'm wrong and he flips mafia today and then you all lynch me kus i stood up for my read on, totally fine with that outcome since we can still afford one mislynch.

You're gunna have to wait for me to be off work to discuss my read on you, I've said about all. I can without looking through your filter again.


ok then you can surrender after we lynch scott tomorrow.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 22 2016 22:05 GMT
#1638
Scott if I was you I wouldn't worry about the second scum for now.

Why am I scum? What feels off?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 23 2016 00:12 GMT
#1639
Toaster strudels...nostalgia
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 23 2016 00:38 GMT
#1640
ATTENTION

I don't know if it's how I phrase things or people aren't reading or what, but one of you has to be town, so I'll ask again, more simply:

[b]SCOTT:
Why did you wait so long to vote for GB D2? Why did you say his claim was "stirring the pot"?

TICKTOCK:
Why did/do you think scott's filter was/is cleaner than Palmar's?

TUMBLE:
Why when asked who you would have voted D1 if you didn't vote Palmar did you say GB? What were you doing/thinking for the 30 minutes you were in thread until you voted Palmar last minute?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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