Star Wars: The Mafia Awaken

On February 03 2016 02:32 justanothertownie wrote:
GB wants to learn how to be an ass properly.

On February 04 2016 08:28 Palmar wrote:

fake afk noted

On February 04 2016 18:49 Palmar wrote:


This post is ok.

I am especially pleased that I managed to coerce a townread out of you. It makes me far more happy when people townread me out of fear or because I force them to, than when they do it because I look townie.

On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.

On February 04 2016 19:41 Palmar wrote:


where in that post was he petulant?

On February 04 2016 19:45 Rels wrote:

This post makes perfect sense to me. Scum tries to play like they would as town, so not everything that scum is writing is scummy.

On February 04 2016 19:46 Koshi wrote:

Nha it makes sense.

On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:

I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh.

It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter.

On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time.

On February 04 2016 19:50 Palmar wrote:

well what do you think?

On February 04 2016 19:51 ritoky wrote:
that was surprisingly bad from marv lol.

On February 04 2016 19:55 Koshi wrote:
pls bois. marv boyfriend is watching. no being evul.

On February 04 2016 20:00 Palmar wrote:
I'm trying to think what is the worst moment of marv from tl mafia so I can blackmail him this game by threatening to link to it.

On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter?

On February 04 2016 20:02 Palmar wrote:

you chose the less enlightening option.

Does reading the thread include all of ritoky's big posts?

On February 04 2016 20:05 Palmar wrote:

so what do you think of ritoky?

On February 04 2016 20:07 Palmar wrote:
Also bf sort of doesn't really sound like mafia.

I find it weird that he would go after the entirety of ritoky's post, it's a massive stretch, but I guess there's not really much that has happened in the game, so maybe stretches are the best he's got. He's at least actually trying to do something.

I like that he actually is keeping the pressure on ritoky despite some pushback, this last post about ritoky just rehashing the information sounds like genuinely believes that he has something there.

On February 04 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:
This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever.

I feel I should just write off disfo as town, for example, but I don't want to

On February 04 2016 20:33 Palmar wrote:

the basis of the townread was not that though, the original reason he got townread was activity + wanting to take dreamflower. He correctly predicted I'd talk him out of it.

It was very impressive.

On February 04 2016 20:42 Palmar wrote:
I'm out for a bit

make marv give opinions on things, make jat actually play

On February 04 2016 20:45 Palmar wrote:

this is only partly true.

You tend to be slow at actually doing things (trying to lynch people), but you do poke an opinion here and there when you're town.

On February 04 2016 20:49 Palmar wrote:

do you genuinely believe that you would post similar or same opinions as mafia and as town?

On February 04 2016 22:18 Koshi wrote:

So him being pro-active makes him mafia? That makes 0 sense.
It was that game in which I figured out how to read Palmar as mafia btw.

On February 04 2016 22:18 boxerfred wrote:

Hm yeah, I can see this scenario. However one push doesn't make a tunnel. I have time for Mafia, I even scheduled time windows to be able to fucking play. So I won't limit myself to one case D1, don't worry. Also, if I die N1, your pretty screwed imho, so if this is really town on town, it goes both ways, whoever dies of us. If it's one of us.

On February 04 2016 22:32 Rels wrote:

I have no idea how you managed to do that.

On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:

That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say.

On February 04 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:

Kush plays bold as mafia. This post makes him more likely mafia.

On February 05 2016 00:11 Rels wrote:
I've explained what I didn't like about Darth: him entering the thread, not doing anything, then re-entering the thread when he was called out. That seemed fake to me.

On February 05 2016 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
you are really nitpicking rels, it is highly unlikely JAT is scum here.

can whoever is here look at nocturnemage? I cant believe he never posted again zZ

On February 05 2016 02:01 VayneAuthority wrote:


I did just play back 2 back experimentals where I got killed off early in both so I've been kinda itching to play

Anyways I know we haven't played in a while so you should look at my recent games, I have attempted to improve my day 1

On February 05 2016 02:04 disformation wrote:
Ah. Also at the named VT stuff:
Normally I am not sure which of the approaches (claiming right off the bat vs waiting until in danger of lynch) is better, but this game scum has a "free" strong arm shot, so claiming right off the bat seems very not good. xD

On February 05 2016 02:07 Koshi wrote:

I nthe OP. Last role.

On February 05 2016 02:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
I actually suggested the named VT thing with regards to the strongman shot, seems like good bait to have that killed rather then actually good role

and i thought i played 2 normals since I came back but I guess I only played unoriginal mafia by artanis marv.

On February 05 2016 02:19 VayneAuthority wrote:


I had to look up what that meant, i dont know latin shit.

I'm not sure if you are implying thats townie or scummy could go either way tbh. But You know I am good with roles and all that stuff, I obv read OP

On February 05 2016 02:25 Rels wrote:

Here is a quote from you from Outlaw mafia:

Explain ?

On February 05 2016 06:03 disformation wrote:
Eh? In my feeble understanding of the rule only applied to ppl who never played with you before and call you scum or something?

On February 05 2016 06:28 Rels wrote:

OK. Guess you are town then. (=

On February 05 2016 11:35 justanothertownie wrote:
I think atm you are doing what HTS does when she is mafia, NM - directionless rambling.

On February 05 2016 13:56 NocturneMage wrote:
marvellosity

On February 05 2016 19:50 marvellosity wrote:

aww, disarmed

On February 05 2016 14:53 ritoky wrote:


if you're talking about how he dumbtelled 3 mafia @ the end instead of 4 in a 17 person game, that's kinda meh in terms of dumb tells.

On February 05 2016 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.

Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting.

On February 05 2016 20:02 Rels wrote:

It's part meta too. I can very clearly see this coming from Moosy. In one game I've played with him, he was town!roleblocker but didn't know he could stop scum KP because he didn't read the OP. In addition, Moosy is super serious as scum; he could replicate his "silly" town meta pretty easily, but I don't think he would think of this dumbtell.
It doesn't even feel like a forced dumbtell: he played a game until there were only 3 names left. It could have go unnoticed very easily. I didn't notice it.

On February 05 2016 20:03 justanothertownie wrote:

You are aware that he stole that point from marv?

On February 05 2016 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:

You have no idea how satisfying this is for me :D

On February 05 2016 20:07 Rels wrote:
Gotta go in 5 minutes, then I'll be gone until tonight (like 5 hours before deadline).

On February 05 2016 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Being sure about his alignment is impossible anyways with what he has done so far.

On February 05 2016 20:28 disformation wrote:

he did the same in nsm18.

On July 31 2013 20:14 Zyrre wrote:
Reading through filters this morning trying to make some sense of the DeusX->reps->Umasi/alakaslam exchanges.

reps:

This post seems to be very town at first to me, however, following this post is 2.5h of posts where suspicion is aimed at DeusX instead. Then reps decides anyway to post this:

If he was going to point by point defend himself, why not do it right away? Seems overly defensivve too me since people did not jump on the wagon with DeusX and instead was questioning him at the time.
Later, he posts this:

To me it seems Alakaslam was saying that there was evidence DeusX was scummy. Even if he misread this as there being evidence that he(reps) was scummy, why would he as a proclaimed newbie claim his role when there was even talk about how very situational it was in the pregame?
All this together seems very scummy to me, confused to bad townie at best.

DeusX:
His aggresion so early might seem scummy, but I think his strategy if he was scum is terrible. Yes as pointed out you can be vocal scum, but not in the way he is doing it. You would need to be much more neutral but still post a lot. Going all out and be the first guy to accuse someone first day, when chances are we will accidentaly lynch a town anyway, just why? No reason at all to do this. The only reason to start a new lynch would be if a mafia was already targeted which wasnt the case.
In conclusion: he might be over-aggresive and his arguments may be weak, but not a mafia read from me so far.

Umasi/alakasam:
A bit hard to make sense of some of their chatter. However, just on the point they are also starting their own lynch and generally being friendly like that in the thread would make me lean town on them. I dont see why mafia would make such a strong connection between themselves for no reason (if one of them turns out mafia the other would be instantly lynched at next opportunity).
Conclusion: Pretty much neutral atm for me.

On February 05 2016 08:02 Zyrre wrote:
Went to bed shortly after the start, long day at work, and now back after reading the thread. I'm off work tomorrow so will try to post more before the lynch.

Some reads:

ritoky
leaning scum from bf's reasoning and his defense.

Just saying that posts are bad doesn't seem very productive, and saying he will lynch him quite early no matter if he is town or mafia. Says he wants to teach people by being "informed otherwise or punished for them". So due to his own reasoning he can just inform them and move on, but in this case he wanted to stop reading his posts and lynch him.

Claimed bf was doing nothing else than tunneling him, see below what bf was doing otherwise.

boxerfred
leaning town
Posted his read list of 6 people other than ritoky
Asking koshi to post scumreads rather then townreads
Calls out JAT for doing what he himself was arguing against(saying who was calling who scum, instead of the reasoning behind it)

damdred
slight scumlean
Some activity but only asking what others think and this "I'm awake and caught up I'll post more after coffee but jat pretty sexy today I must admit, bf oozing that town ness." with no real followup

noonian
biggest scum read right now, at the moment would probably vote for him
Saying he will not care about this game even if he lives
Says if he was scum he would be playing like he is doing right now
"There are probably people who have put less effort than even me into this game. You might want to lynch them instead of me. " -- literally zero reads posted

On February 05 2016 20:47 justanothertownie wrote:
There are very few townreads I am married to if any. People be scummy or not playing.

On February 05 2016 20:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Marv you say "thang" too much. That word is so nineties.

On February 05 2016 21:05 Zyrre wrote:


I actually agree with you. I am feeling more pressure than I thought just because Im bad and I feel this game is really hard to read so far.

On February 05 2016 22:44 boxerfred wrote:
they play clearly against town win condition which makes them scum.

On February 05 2016 22:51 justanothertownie wrote:

A little over the top, don't you think?

On February 05 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Really don't know what to make of this tbh.

On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
Given that I agree on ritoky's/disformation's idea of one scum between NocturneMage and VayneAuthority, I feel like we should lynch one of them and shoot the other one at night. NM vs. Vayne didn't feel like town on town. Especially NM felt forced, his arguments weren't too good. However I liked his later explanations of them.

So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.

On February 05 2016 23:20 boxerfred wrote:

Overall, disformation's posting style feels town to me. The mod thingy just made that stronger. I was surpirsed disformation wasn't in the thread because it was afternoon in germany, same timezones and shit, and I expected him to be in the thread. And, as you can see if you read the following posts, he indeed was in the thread. And yes it does matter because disformation can basically lean back on my hard townread, rub his hands and say "look at this bf fool, he's townreading me, lol I don't even need to post shit". I expected him to instantly post after this if he really was town. which he did.

On February 05 2016 23:46 disformation wrote:
hmmm... maybe BF was trying to buddy up to me? Or pocket? Or however these things work?
No clue why anyone would give me town credits for. How do you spend these things?

On February 05 2016 23:57 disformation wrote:

Fair enough.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seeing that you are voting palmar I gather that you like NM and agree with the meta thing on palmar?
Can you explain these things to me? Does my point on NM probably not believing this meta thing on palmar change anything for you or do you think I am wrong?

On February 06 2016 00:28 nooniansoong wrote:


It's kind of a bad idea to ignore the person you want to lynch.

On February 06 2016 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:


Why is that? I think you are obsessing over that 1 bad post too much like I did with NM. but if he doesn't post more, sure he is lynchable. Just gives the too easy vibe.

Although I noticed a lot of people are throwing him around as a slight scumread with no real followup which is definitely mafia team related

On February 06 2016 01:01 nooniansoong wrote:
nvm im towning zyrre.


I don't see him being the type of player to say this as scum.



organic nuanced reads here

On February 06 2016 01:05 marvellosity wrote:

i explained why

On February 06 2016 01:09 VayneAuthority wrote:


I missed that post clearly, I had to go back through your already 5 page filter and find it. I feel like you use a program to bolster your filter or soemthing, I dont remember you posting that much

On February 06 2016 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
also @ kush/marv anyone non retarded here -

What do you make of this random NM/VA = 1 scum thing thats developed and we have to shoot/lynch us or w/e?

stupidest thing ive ever read in my life, scummy or morons?

On February 06 2016 12:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
I highly recommend shooting palmar if we have a vig so that we can see his alignment during tomorrows lynch. A lot of delicious data to analyze regardless of his flip

On February 06 2016 21:11 disformation wrote:

I think he is striving to be unreadable since his very first game. Usually gets a bit better D2 or so.


Not 100% sure I like these "even if he is town" reasons you and VA gave, but I can still agree to the rest and while I would shoot like 16/16 ppl in the game, Palmar is the first and best choice.

Well, having a huge hand in creating the Palmar wagon and then dropping it like it is hot is exactly what you did.

But yes I am insane. Currently suffering from a great bout of paranoia and living in a world where everyone is scum.

On February 06 2016 21:21 disformation wrote:

Fair point. TBH my attempt at that vca was very ham handed, or bad. Whatever you call it, really. Partly due to me being frustrated from the D1 outcome.
Also again failing to see the motivation and goals behind posts and only seeing "wat why did he unvote".

Sry, my play is pretty disgusting this game, even for my standards.

On February 06 2016 23:50 nooniansoong wrote:
Dunno why everyone's so convinced palmar is mafia when there's very little to go off of.

Marv is acting douchey, might be scum.

On February 07 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Some part of me hopes palmar is town. If only because if he is scum I played a perfect day1 just to throw it all away at the very last second.

But I seriously wonder if a vigshot isn't better placed on Onegu, Moosy or some other unreadable guy who will make us waste a lynch on him regardless of his alignment anyways.

On February 07 2016 03:32 nooniansoong wrote:

Douchey

On February 07 2016 08:21 darthfoley wrote:
So Mafia 2 KP + General Hux assassinate for 3 KP is what you think happened?

On February 07 2016 08:24 darthfoley wrote:
oh oops, i meant to say...

I thought he made a good point about how ritoky felt that the VA vs. NM argument was constructed, not that I felt that ritoky's argument was fake.

On February 07 2016 08:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred dieing is odd. Who would shoot him as mafia?

On February 07 2016 08:30 disformation wrote:
Also now I am a bit paniky. Cause the VCA clearly indicates that scum kinda shot ppl that were willing to vote palmar. but that is a huge wifom argument.

On February 07 2016 08:33 Koshi wrote:

How the fuck is that a medic dodge? There is me, rels and you

On February 07 2016 22:20 disformation wrote:

Is that your town list or your scum list?

On February 08 2016 03:32 disformation wrote:

Who would you lynch if Palmar was modkilled? I didn't find many reads in yo filter.

On February 08 2016 03:47 disformation wrote:

He likes your case on palmar (without ever having a read on you). Flicks through palmar's filter. writes a 3 liner on palmar. writes a slightly better explanation on palmar b4 he leaves.
Comes back switches to zyrre (who granted he also had a scumread on though I find that one dubious).
So no I am not really seeing effort and time here.

On February 08 2016 04:17 darthfoley wrote:
Marv's Palmar progression

+ Show Spoiler +

I agree that Marv was not invested in the Palmar lynch and was quite wishy washy for someone who apparently has the hard reads on him.

"I think his absence is non-admissible... but it could come from either alignment... not totally sure though... oh yea btw if he comes back while i'm gone and says im scum, DONT LISTEN TO HIM (even though I just said his play could come from either alignment") If his lack of play could come from either alignment, it's false to say it's non-admissible.

He also says that if he thought he wasn't going to come back before the deadline, he would vote for Zyrre, but that he's keeping his vote on Palmar and change it later if necessary. Except that a few paragraphs earlier he specifically told everyone not to drink the Palmar Kool-Aid and keep your vote on him.

He then jumps on the "VC is making me nervous train at #1319" (I had commented on it at #1308) and switches to Zyrre. This progression/line of reasoning throughout is suspicious to me and i'm scum reading marv

Get Zyrre ML D1 is easy, while knowing it will leave Palmar in an almost impossible hole to fight out of D2 given the rapid vote swing, guaranteeing another mislynch.

On February 08 2016 04:22 darthfoley wrote:
Okay, and he didn't case you

On February 08 2016 04:30 darthfoley wrote:


Yes, exactly. Town is generally about the percentages game, and you (marv) are good enough to play objectively.

"Objectively I did the thing that was sub-optimal from Town pov and that makes me town"

On February 08 2016 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
vayne, marv, palmar, x scum

On February 08 2016 05:30 boxerfred wrote:

Why wouldn't you do this as mafia? Puts great light on you.

On February 08 2016 06:41 nooniansoong wrote:
anytime you question marv about anything you are horrendous, on drugs, or scum.

On February 08 2016 06:50 NocturneMage wrote:
Marv why do you think Koshi is town?
What do you think about Rels' case?

On February 08 2016 07:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
D: marv give me attention. You're throwing out reads on everyone and I feel excluded.

On February 08 2016 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:

yesss it will. tbh, this is what I would expect from town marv, but you do seem a bit more subdued and quiet than usual. ^^ care to explain?

On February 08 2016 07:19 Rels wrote:

I really disagree with that last sentence. Your suggestion of scum!marv saving town!Palmar for another is an impossible situation I think.

On February 08 2016 07:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Including this Mafia game.

On February 08 2016 07:30 nooniansoong wrote:
killing an afk palmar is not a huge win.

On February 08 2016 07:42 disformation wrote:
Were are in dire need of information from all the guys who did like nothing this game.

Chez/Onegu/MD

Onegus filter is literally: "sry sick" "reading" "still catching up". And while him being sick and trying to catch up to the thread sucks and is understandable, we have 0 clue as to what his alignment is.

On February 08 2016 07:50 disformation wrote:

Maybe I am really either seeing no scum or scum everywhere because it really is something hilarious like Palmar/MD/Cherz/+1 of boxer, noon, Onegu... -.-

On February 08 2016 07:57 NocturneMage wrote:


I am annoyed by Chez's last post where he says his list of boxerfred/you/disformation is interesting.

You said he was misapplying his own criteria earlier day 1, but as someone who has never played with him, do you mind clarifying this?

On February 08 2016 08:13 NocturneMage wrote:






These quotes of Chezinu were right before and after the flip.

I could TRY and imply what he was trying to do in the first post? I think the final quote that list of names I think he picked from his mafia game that ritoky, me and MD wre playing last night. He was supposed to pick his TRs and then picks both Palmar and Zyrre from that game and then votes Zyrre.

It's still confusing as hell sort of because in that game, he admitted he picked the names randomly but if he's trolling....god he's just confusing as hell.

On February 08 2016 11:54 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,

Have you ever trolled a game and never have time to actually play the game? But every time you go to play, you end up trolling?

Troll problems.

Ok, it's time to get stuff done.

Boxer why you mafia?
Marv do you love me?

PAAAAALLLLLLMAAAARRR!!!!!!!

Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff.

On February 08 2016 20:17 Palmar wrote:

I thought, with you moving your vote off me, I would be safe. I for some reason was almost certain I wouldn't be the lynch. As for real life stuff, I was at the time playing boardgames with my family at my parents' house so I wasn't vigorously checking my phone. I'm actually a bit confused having skimmed over the voting later as to why exactly I figured I was safe, because it's not like I was ever way behind zyrre in the voting.

I actually almost fumbled moving my vote to safe myself on the phone, which I decided to do in any case (I had no idea jat would switch, of course).

On February 08 2016 20:16 Rels wrote:
BTW I think you have 0 chance of making me change my vote now that I've seen the level of tryhardness you did in outlaw to escape the lynch.

On February 08 2016 20:23 Palmar wrote:


I did not intend to be absent (I actually went into this game, having a shadow and all, decidedly wanting to sort of try to do a bit of leadership again.). I guess I could've popped in to say I would be busy, but I just didn't. Do you think that if I had done that anything would've changed? I sort of doubt it. Do you think I'm more likely to go absent as mafia? (I of course don't know, but I THINK that I'm more likely to go afk as town).

On November 29 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote:
Whoever started a mafia game on thanksgiving should be shot.

I'm out for tonight, I have a work-christmas-dinner-getdrunk-thing.

Just in case I actually get lynched. I haven't read much of the game so not too many reads I can give you. I actually feel fairly okay with thinking Superbia is town based on what I posted already. Don't disregard that evidence just because you think it's sorta dumb or weak.

Idk about marv, I kinda actually think I understand why he thinks I'm mafia, which makes him probably town. I've spent very little time on the game and he probably wants me to do other stuff, like read his posts. Then again, I'm sort of an easy target at the moment.

If marv is town, rayn is probably town too, in fact, it's extremely likely that most of marv's reads are correct, no matter his own alignment, because he's usually not blatantly wrong when he's mafia, just wrong enough not to lynch his entire team.

See you guys.

Pls no lynch.

On February 08 2016 20:25 Palmar wrote:
I also did not really notice any significant pressure on me on thursday, maybe that's a wrong impression on my part but mostly it was some prodding by marv and jat which isn't unusual at all.

Sad jat died. To me he was basically confirmed town (there's no way scum jat would not want to get rid of me day 1).

On February 08 2016 20:31 Palmar wrote:

I think you're town, but confirmed?

On February 08 2016 20:40 Palmar wrote:
It's sort of weird that sometimes as town under pressure you start thinking like mafia. I definitely considered faking ignorance of the fact jat had flipped to "look more town" by giving a read on him.

On February 08 2016 20:50 Palmar wrote:
Yeah I might try that, but it's gonna take a while

You see, town Palmar doesn't just make up reads in a game he has barely read.

On February 09 2016 00:05 VayneAuthority wrote:


yea his filter is already 12 pages, so probably. But never hurts to start preparing for lategame, I dont foresee me or him dying anytime soon.

On February 09 2016 00:14 nooniansoong wrote:


when playing board games with the fam you want to spend a minimal amount of time looking at your phone.

On February 09 2016 00:52 Rels wrote:
NM you're actually extremely aggressive, I have no idea if it's usual for you or not but it's surprising at least.

On February 09 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
NM can be pretty emotional. Not sure if that is AI for him though.
In Dark Tournament town!NM was pretty emotionally invested in lynching scum!HtS and later went pretty close to yelling at town!Trfel and going on tilt over that.
Sample size is too small to verify if he does so as scum too.

On February 09 2016 02:11 Rels wrote:
Chez is scum. Chez plays to win even if he flavors his posts. This is a play, he is like "See I'm not voting the obvious guy I should be voting, I'm so scummy I can't be scum!"

On February 09 2016 02:16 disformation wrote:
marv what do you think of VA?

On February 09 2016 02:25 disformation wrote:
Hmmm... not a single scummer being on the palmar train sounds hard to belief...
Well the votes were super fucking close. Maybe scum really was jumping hard on the zyrre train to save Palmar in the hope he can pull that stuff he did in Outlaw again?
Like Palmar+koshi+chez+1 of MD or Onegu doesn't sound unreasonable.

On February 09 2016 02:37 Koshi wrote:
I will like to not get lynched by an angry mob too soon though. Are we ok with D4?

On February 09 2016 02:37 disformation wrote:

Yeah, I like to overthink (or underthink) things.
I am a man of extremes you know. :p

And nah I am not entirely ignoring the throw away votes.
MD can be scum here, but he is pretty coinflippy to me atm. For Onegu I don't think this vote is AI with him replacing out and stuff. Though the same happened in DT.
Would be rally hilarious if it is really Onegu/MD/Chez/Palmar... -.-
Would explain why everyone is struggling with reads.

Like if the Palmar wagon is really pure, there can't be 4 scum on zyrre imo. Even three would be somewhat of a stretch.

On February 09 2016 02:44 Koshi wrote:

Would be really dumb.

On February 09 2016 02:45 Koshi wrote:

There isn't much more work to do. Just lynch scummy people one at a time and read their filters.

On February 09 2016 02:46 Koshi wrote:
But doing the TownKoshi thing is so boring. I like this townKoshi way more.

On February 09 2016 02:48 Koshi wrote:

Which is way more fun. If I get lynched now and flip town, this really isn't on me.

On February 09 2016 02:54 Koshi wrote:

Hard to do when you are not mafia.

On February 09 2016 02:36 Koshi wrote:
Everything going according to plan?

On February 09 2016 08:05 disformation wrote:

Isn't there a possible framer in the setup?
+ they still might have this stupid canon.

but I am soooooooooo flowering glad that he flipped scum. Means I don't have to go crazy over tinfoils.
Game is somewhat solvable.

LS: town rainbows, NOW!

On February 09 2016 08:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
legit laughing rn, good stuff

On February 09 2016 08:10 Chezinu wrote:
Guys, I would like to say that it was a honor to help form a second wagon on Day 1 to aid in the detection of mafia scum. I was secretly hoping Palmar would have died Day 1 but I couldn't vote for Palmar cause I likes him. This was also an opportunity to gain more information. We are doing great guys!

On February 09 2016 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
marv + Rels + NM, what do you think of noon + Vayne?

Still not caught up yet, just a pre-empative question ^^

On February 09 2016 08:19 LightningStrike wrote:
So marv any thoughts on MD? I don't really have a handle for him sadly

On February 09 2016 08:20 Rels wrote:

All the posts after the deadline and before the flips. Plus the ls post after that cause I thought he was an obs :p