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Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 02 2016 21:43 GMT
#33
Hopefully I can have a longer game than the 0.5 days of Unknown mafia.

/in
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 03 2016 19:48 GMT
#135
Just an old brood war fan, mostly in TaekBangLeeSsang era. Got really interested in mafia after the "Mafia LAN" by dota 2 casters and figured I would try to enjoy some games here.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 03 2016 23:25 GMT
#180
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 04 2016 23:02 GMT
#690
Went to bed shortly after the start, long day at work, and now back after reading the thread. I'm off work tomorrow so will try to post more before the lynch.

Some reads:

ritoky
leaning scum from bf's reasoning and his defense.

Just saying that posts are bad doesn't seem very productive, and saying he will lynch him quite early no matter if he is town or mafia. Says he wants to teach people by being "informed otherwise or punished for them". So due to his own reasoning he can just inform them and move on, but in this case he wanted to stop reading his posts and lynch him.

Claimed bf was doing nothing else than tunneling him, see below what bf was doing otherwise.

boxerfred
leaning town
Posted his read list of 6 people other than ritoky
Asking koshi to post scumreads rather then townreads
Calls out JAT for doing what he himself was arguing against(saying who was calling who scum, instead of the reasoning behind it)

damdred
slight scumlean
Some activity but only asking what others think and this "I'm awake and caught up I'll post more after coffee but jat pretty sexy today I must admit, bf oozing that town ness." with no real followup

noonian
biggest scum read right now, at the moment would probably vote for him
Saying he will not care about this game even if he lives
Says if he was scum he would be playing like he is doing right now
"There are probably people who have put less effort than even me into this game. You might want to lynch them instead of me. " -- literally zero reads posted
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 04 2016 23:25 GMT
#705
On February 05 2016 08:10 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote:
That zyrre post is so bad for so many reasons

I got parroting, looks constructed and pushing/scum reading the most convenient target in noon. Also the timing of that post + lotsa excuses. Did I miss something?

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote:
my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth
maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush
fuck you is: boxerfred

and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM.

Gut agrees with one scum between VA and NM. Head can't figure out which one is more likely.


By timing you mean that you and disinfo started commenting about me? It was like 20-30 minutes before I posted. If you think I read through the thread and formulated my post in that amount of time you are severely overestimating me.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 04 2016 23:26 GMT
#706
On February 05 2016 08:19 darthfoley wrote:
I'm always rather suspicious of multi player mega list first posts. It usually seems forced and oversimplified even if the person is town.

Zyrre, do you have any reads or opinions regarding NocturnalMage/VA?


I will try to read them and post something before sleep.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 01:02 GMT
#722
Well, VA is talking meta. Says he wants a lazy D1 and that he discussed named VT to bait someone out. Doesnt seem scummy to me and I have no meta reads.

NM is also hard to read. I dont agree with this though, about bf reads on ritoky/disinfo exchange:
"My only beef with boxerfred is the last part - he's saying "lynch anyway" but the very next sentence says he's going to ignore him and trust someone else's read on him. That's a towny trait to defer to - why BF ignores it or doesn't see it right away - I'm also going to place it under the "bad" category rather than "mafia" since I would think mafia would be a bit more careful about that."

I felt like ritoky was leaving it open to lynch disinfo at any opportunity, regardless of alignment as he said. Cant see why that is towny play.

Not saying ritoky is scummy, after reading his later posts I actually think he is more town. Still doesnt make NM's reasoning better though.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 12:05 GMT
#903
On February 05 2016 20:38 marvellosity wrote:
i didn't like the post when i saw it, but i also thought, maybe just newbie doing his newbie thang. but that was his first "reads" post in the other game, and it's so much more nuanced and thoughtful.

Further he said he feels "less pressure because he is town" - I don't think his posting feels unpressured or carefree - rather it feels like it's an effort.


I actually agree with you. I am feeling more pressure than I thought just because Im bad and I feel this game is really hard to read so far.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 16:18 GMT
#1024
Koshi, did you change your mind about noonian now that he is trying and being active, or do you think he is just trying to sway me not to vote for him as I named him my top pick before?
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 16:27 GMT
#1031
On February 06 2016 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
also @ kush/marv anyone non retarded here -

What do you make of this random NM/VA = 1 scum thing thats developed and we have to shoot/lynch us or w/e?

stupidest thing ive ever read in my life, scummy or morons?


bf even said he though noonian was the most likely mafia, and even with that he wanted to lynch and shoot.

On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.


After that he hasnt said anything about anyone other than NM or VA being scum, only about which one of them we should choose.

He started with saying he agreed with others logic as to why it HAD to be one of them, and when pushed in his last post he said literally only "gut".

So starting to think bf looks scummy.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 17:38 GMT
#1048
On February 06 2016 02:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 01:18 Zyrre wrote:
Koshi, did you change your mind about noonian now that he is trying and being active, or do you think he is just trying to sway me not to vote for him as I named him my top pick before?

He is most likely just playing mindgames with everybody. Vote for who you think is mafia. Consolidate EoD. Also proof to marv you are town because if he comes for you, I will follow.

Your defense against his case was "I am bad". What does that mean? You totally don't believe in those reads again?


Marv's argument was that I had made a similar, but better, post in a game from 2013. The other game I have played on TL as mafia was from 2010. There is a grand sample size of two very old games. So if there is a similar bad post on D1 in the game from 2010, it would mean there is a 50% chance I am mafia?

I just dont see how you can draw any conclusions from a sample size of basically 0.

If I am bad at reading on D1, it would be logical that in a few games, perhaps where the mafia is making themselves more obvious, or I am just more attentive towards the game, I would make some sense. But in other games I would have much weaker reasonings for my D1 reads.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 17:43 GMT
#1051
Marv, the biggest difference I see in my filters is activity. I think I was just more confident as it was a newbie game.

Still, it was one game 2.5 years ago. I dont even remember it.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 17:59 GMT
#1059
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 19:32 GMT
#1166
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


If it was activity, why did you go from town to null right after one of my posts? And then removed town-read after another of my posts?

"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 19:58 GMT
#1212
I really have no idea about noon, but at least he has posted some reads and is posting now. Rather neutral at the moment.

I obviously dont know about Palmers meta, but I feel like his early statement:
"This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever."

Seems like possible scum play. He has posted almost no suspicions, and if he doesnt townread anyone he can always jump on votes for whoever is getting lynched atm.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 20:00 GMT
#1214
Voting Palmar for now.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 20:07 GMT
#1222
JAT, why would I not try to find my own reasoning? I have no idea about the meta.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 22:34 GMT
#1343
Cant a guy play some dota without getting lynched?

Darth, I agree it seemed a bit odd with no pushback to Palmar. However now there is and some are voting for me instead.

You say you want to lynch palmar day 2. Surely if he is this afk it would be easier to read me day2 to determine if I was mafia than if he keeps not posting?
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 22:51 GMT
#1370
Will post some stuff in case I die.

Noon still slightly scummy. He posted nothing at first, then posted a whole lot of nothing. Then said I was town -> null -> voted on me(basically no other reads on anyone else). So, IF palmar is mafia noon is def very scummy.

marv might be playing super well mafia as he posted some on palmar but then posted a quite dubios comparison with a game from 3 years ago and switched to me.

Also people switching without writing any reason, chez koshi, seems very suspicous.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 22:58 GMT
#1393
also wtf at bf
"what the fuck im still here i never left

here ##unvote #vote Zyrre

or nooniansong or whoever "

saying he is here and throwing around votes withour reason, then super afk last hour
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
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