EPTOn December 31 2015 02:24 GlowingBear wrote:
This is what I don't like on Kmatt. He says I'm fishy but keeps backtracking on it. It just feels like he is trying to give an opinion while not really relying on it. Am I fishy or not? What does fishy means? Mafia? If so, why not just saying I'm scummy and going against it?
This is what I don't like on Kmatt. He says I'm fishy but keeps backtracking on it. It just feels like he is trying to give an opinion while not really relying on it. Am I fishy or not? What does fishy means? Mafia? If so, why not just saying I'm scummy and going against it?
Prior to Wednesday morning I was still undecided. However that morning I re-read the filter again and saw some stuff I didn't like.
Firstly, the townread on Irish, while later found to be true, didn't have any real ground to it. Irish makes a townread on Kush that he himself says is weak (from a single day 1 post mind you).
On December 29 2015 08:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Pretty much sincere opening with him giving an opinion right away on what he likes. Sounds like someone who feels free to play the game without concern of how he looks.
Pretty much sincere opening with him giving an opinion right away on what he likes. Sounds like someone who feels free to play the game without concern of how he looks.
So he thinks the single opening post was "sincere", even though Irish even doubted his own credibility. Looks to me like he just gave that out at the first person he could read just so he could have a townread for everyone to see. The he just fullquotes Irish's next post to say he agrees and nothing else.
On December 30 2015 03:00 GlowingBear wrote:
I like it like it's coming from town. His tone feels like carefree too.
I like it like it's coming from town. His tone feels like carefree too.
Then another townread on Shapelog for no explained reason.
And his explanation for that one is...
On December 30 2015 03:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Because you could've just left and keep laddering. Instead, you've stayed here, wanting to play the game, anxious for more content to be posted. This kind of excited is something that usually comes from town and is rarely faked by Mafia
I'm gonna take a Nap and keep catching up
Because you could've just left and keep laddering. Instead, you've stayed here, wanting to play the game, anxious for more content to be posted. This kind of excited is something that usually comes from town and is rarely faked by Mafia
I'm gonna take a Nap and keep catching up
So someone's active in the thread on the first day. Groundbreaking analysis right here folks. Just like with Irish he declares the guy town out of the blue and follows up with "evidence" with made-up context.
Then comes the scumread on me. Oh, now he's digging deep, ready to contribute to the most important discussion in the thread at the moment. Let's see what thread contributions he has with his declared lynch target.
On December 30 2015 07:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok fully caught up
I'm voting Kmatt because reasons
##Vote: Kmatt
Ok fully caught up
I'm voting Kmatt because reasons
##Vote: Kmatt
k
Well just like with his other reads he pulls that from seemingly nowhere. At least everyone can see he's a real scumhunter, throwing out the dangerous vote! Stay tuned for the full scoop.
On December 30 2015 07:47 Shapelog wrote:
and people have red bumps on their genitalia for "reasons"
Can u explain GB?
and people have red bumps on their genitalia for "reasons"
Can u explain GB?
Drumroll please...
On December 30 2015 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I think he is scummy
I think he is scummy
So still nothing. Note that now he's actually getting other people in the thread involved in this "discussion" about nothing.
On December 30 2015 08:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Before I answer: do you have any reads on him?
Before I answer: do you have any reads on him?
Shapelog literally handed you the soapbox to voice your actual case that you actually have for everyone to hear and examine. Instead you turn the question back for him. Why would you need someone else to discuss this read? You already have one (or so we're told)!
On December 30 2015 09:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Kmatt's filter has been wishy washy, that's why I voted him. I could quoting and explaining my rwas but I'm actually too lazy right now to put effort
I'm also playing another game which from times to times keeps me from giving my full attention to this one
I think Kmatt's filter has been wishy washy, that's why I voted him. I could quoting and explaining my rwas but I'm actually too lazy right now to put effort
I'm also playing another game which from times to times keeps me from giving my full attention to this one
So how many posts is he going to use before he starts contributing to the thread. He posted reads, asked questions with no real follow-up or conclusions, and now wants other people to discuss a case he himself refuses to acknowledge. Imagine if every post I quoted so far was never posted. How much information would we have missed? How much further from winning would we be? Oh right nowhere because he's not actually contributing anything.
Surely he's not just making these posts to clog the thread and bait responses, right? That's so obviously scum behavior, so clearly
On December 30 2015 09:36 GlowingBear wrote:
I usually delay explanation and post just votes and questions just to have people talking. If I answered you right at that moment I would destroy this premise. So I was just trying to have people talking about it for a longer time.
I usually delay explanation and post just votes and questions just to have people talking. If I answered you right at that moment I would destroy this premise. So I was just trying to have people talking about it for a longer time.
No, that's actually exactly what he's doing. K.
Moving on
On December 30 2015 11:20 GlowingBear wrote:
If you check most of his games, he is mainly inactive.
Don't you think it is kinda early to consider him mafia?
If you check most of his games, he is mainly inactive.
Don't you think it is kinda early to consider him mafia?
When did making early reads become a problem? For some reason you're suddenly hesitant to call Scott Mafia, even though NM never actually accused him of scum, just wanted to pressure him. But we'll come back to that.
On December 30 2015 14:57 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that I believe kush is likely to be town and that scott is impossible to know right now makes me want to lynch you very hard.
Anyway I know I'm lacking contribution. I'll step up tomorrow.
The fact that I believe kush is likely to be town and that scott is impossible to know right now makes me want to lynch you very hard.
Anyway I know I'm lacking contribution. I'll step up tomorrow.
Alright so now you're threatening a lynch based on the fact that you have opposing reads. And by "reads", I mean you called Kush 'town'. Note that posts like this still aren't developing any claims, just showing off that he's totally scumhunting for real guys. At least he's become self-aware, that's good, right?
On December 31 2015 00:30 GlowingBear wrote:
I did forget.
I will be reading the thread in one hour from now, then I'll give inputs. Still, I think Scott isn't the lynch for today
Irish, I will be answering you soon.
I did forget.
I will be reading the thread in one hour from now, then I'll give inputs. Still, I think Scott isn't the lynch for today
Irish, I will be answering you soon.
So still no info other than that Scott isn't a lynch target. He just claimed that he was null (and therefore possibly scum) but now Scott is off the board. Of course there's no actual analysis or anything, just look at the shiny claim.
On December 31 2015 02:24 GlowingBear wrote:
This is what I don't like on Kmatt. He says I'm fishy but keeps backtracking on it. It just feels like he is trying to give an opinion while not really relying on it. Am I fishy or not? What does fishy means? Mafia? If so, why not just saying I'm scummy and going against it?
This is what I don't like on Kmatt. He says I'm fishy but keeps backtracking on it. It just feels like he is trying to give an opinion while not really relying on it. Am I fishy or not? What does fishy means? Mafia? If so, why not just saying I'm scummy and going against it?
Alright almost 19 hours later he finally has a reason for his vote. I'm indecisive on my read towards him and therefore am scum. Now while I don't agree with his logic (if I were scum I wouldn't have to doubt my reasons for wanting him dead, since I'd know he's a kill target anyway I don't even need a valid "reason". Sound familiar?), at least he finally posts something marginally substantial. He then uses five more posts to explain the same point that indecisiveness=scum.
On December 31 2015 03:01 GlowingBear wrote:
And now I think mderg is mafia, kush.
Mderg and Onegu.
And now I think mderg is mafia, kush.
Mderg and Onegu.
Oh look two more scumreads! Again, no content, no explanation, just "hey these guys are scum". He's practically got this entire game figured out by now. At least he shares that much insight with us.
Then TheCow decides to play and starts asking questions to garner information to analyze and develop a case. What does our hero do?
+ Show Spoiler +
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Oh an image macro. Information and analysis are for nerds anyway.
Now we go back to the Onegu scumread. If you can even call it that.
On December 31 2015 03:12 GlowingBear wrote:
He usually does this to get towncred. My very first game with him he did it as scum. He defended me when I was getting scumread.
I actually have a good reason to call Onegu scum
He usually does this to get towncred. My very first game with him he did it as scum. He defended me when I was getting scumread.
I actually have a good reason to call Onegu scum
So he's meta-gaming from that one time Onegu made a similar post while being Mafia. Leak-proof case right here.
Now TheCow comes back to share his ideas with the thread. How will GB contribute to finding answers?
What compels you to hit "Post"? What could we possibly gain from this? At least Shapelog's spam was kind of funny, this is just stupid. Again, TheCow is trying to figure out the game, you try to be an epic trole.
Alright time for a shot at redemption. Let's see GB post his case to help further figure out the game. All he has to do is not deflect, ignore, or shitpost...
On December 31 2015 03:15 GlowingBear wrote:
THERE! I've got your attention
How do you read mderg, shapelog and scott?
THERE! I've got your attention
How do you read mderg, shapelog and scott?
God damn it.
On December 31 2015 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:
This is bad, I was just townreading you :/
This is bad, I was just townreading you :/
U wot m8. When the hell did I become town again? I know you have no standards but come on.
As for myself I'm going to explain the point raised against me.
My read onto GiygaS was kind of BS. I was getting flak (mostly from GB) for being indecisive and not presenting solid reads. I understand that doesn't help the game so I had to take a shot at something. I didn't have any solid scumreads (was reconsidering GB at the time of the GiygaS vote), so I decided to turn my attention to my least favorite AFK player. No I couldn't defend my scumread on GiygaS but I was being pressured to make a call so I made one. As for why I switched to GB, see above. If I didn't mention it already, I had work that day and wouldn't be back in time before the 5:00pm window closed, so I wouldn't get to make this wall of text. Without presenting my reasoning I didn't have a reason to expect anyone else to follow me, but I'd rather make my vote count towards something more important than my forced GiygaS read.
Now comes GB's wall of text. Have a look at this gem
On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Scott is null. I've made a promise to keep him alive for more than one day because he usually plays like this. Actually, those incongruences you've guys found in Scott's post could come from town Scott based on his previous games (I think Battle of the Drams is the one I'm thinking about, but I'm not really sure the name of the game I remember him playing like this as town)
Scott is null. I've made a promise to keep him alive for more than one day because he usually plays like this. Actually, those incongruences you've guys found in Scott's post could come from town Scott based on his previous games (I think Battle of the Drams is the one I'm thinking about, but I'm not really sure the name of the game I remember him playing like this as town)
Once again Scott is a no-lynch for now a poorly-founded meta reason. Any grievances people had against him written off as Scott doing it as town in other games. The good part comes up next.
On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Kmatt I had him as mafia, then I reevaluated and thought he might be town (after talking to kush), then he voted me using a very poor reasoning to do so. He is null but very close to scum.
Kmatt I had him as mafia, then I reevaluated and thought he might be town (after talking to kush), then he voted me using a very poor reasoning to do so. He is null but very close to scum.
Who was it that raised a fuss because I was being "wishy-washy"? Suddenly in spite of all my heinous crimes (worthy of an insta-vote, mind you), suddenly Kush convinced him that my behavior actually makes me town (when did this even happen?) but now I'm almost scum again. Maybe I'd understand this train of thought better if he posted something of substance every now and again. But then again, that would take away time from posting silly dog pictures.
On December 31 2015 03:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Actualy ROFL the thinks scott is a bad lynch when his main scumread IS THE SECOND WAGON but instead of arguing people should vote Gyigas with him he UNVOTES HIS MAIN SCUMREAD to VOTE ME while saying multiple times I could be town.
Actualy ROFL the thinks scott is a bad lynch when his main scumread IS THE SECOND WAGON but instead of arguing people should vote Gyigas with him he UNVOTES HIS MAIN SCUMREAD to VOTE ME while saying multiple times I could be town.
Now he's back on me again because my vote on him was unfounded and that I wasn't hard committing to GiygaS.
On December 31 2015 03:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm lynching Kmatt today and no one else.
I'm lynching Kmatt today and no one else.
Spoiler alert: He won't
Skipping over some posts where he argues about wanting to lynch me when no one else jumps on his wagon.
Now he defends Scott a third time. And by "defends", I mean he repeats his empty meta-case and swears to protect Scott.
On December 31 2015 04:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I've wrote it before. I've played with scott before and he is capable of doing that as town. I'm not lynching him over people I'm fairly confident are scum, simple as that.
I've wrote it before. I've played with scott before and he is capable of doing that as town. I'm not lynching him over people I'm fairly confident are scum, simple as that.
So with tensions running high and the vote drawing near...
On December 31 2015 06:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Scott, vote Kmatt with me.
Scott, vote Kmatt with me.
On December 31 2015 06:21 GlowingBear wrote:
ROFL I decided to give Diablo III another shot since a lot of people said it got better after some revamp
Conclusion: I can't understand how someone can respect a game when a class' main attack is THROWING JARS WITH SPIDERS ON PEOPLE
Or SUMMONING BELLS FROM THE HEAVENS AND SMASHING THEM ROFL
ROFL I decided to give Diablo III another shot since a lot of people said it got better after some revamp
Conclusion: I can't understand how someone can respect a game when a class' main attack is THROWING JARS WITH SPIDERS ON PEOPLE
Or SUMMONING BELLS FROM THE HEAVENS AND SMASHING THEM ROFL
And he's shitposting again.
And now for the killing blow towards any faith I had left in this guy
On December 31 2015 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Then I'm voting you Scott, sorry, but I have a stronger townread on him than you
Then I'm voting you Scott, sorry, but I have a stronger townread on him than you
You wot m8?
After so adamantly asserting that I'm scum and defending Scott's town status (based on some meta read) since day one, you completely flip the boat because you don't like how he's voting.
So why am I telling you all of this?
A townie has no reason to shitpost past the opening banter. GB repeatedly shitposts throughout the thread.
A townie has no reason to avoid posting his own cases when prompted. GB deflects questions towards his reads twice now.
A townie has no reason to derail someone else's analysis and arguments that could help solve the game. GB attempts to derail discussion and arguments multiple times while contributing nothing to said discussion.
A townie with no information about the other players would have no reason to vehemently defend Scott's innocence without a case and then completely throw him under the bus at the last second. You know the rest
And most of all
A townie wouldn't make reads about players with virtually nothing to back them up, but have no hesitation posting them for everyone to see. Every read should be in support or against a lynch vote. Almost none of GBs reads contribute towards that goal.
Unless of course GB had a reason to convince the thread that he's scumhunting without actually helping solve the game.
That reason being the GB is a mafia player. If I'm not being clear or commital enough here:
##vote GlowingBear
I'm off to bed. I'll respond with what I can in the morning.
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