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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2015 17:06 GMT
#681
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 20 2015 17:42 GMT
#682
yea so like everyone else said just look in the obvious places left, onegu, afk slot, yamato in order of sureness. then you can go to the weird people like fecal/plot and maybeeee kelsier/rayn as a last resort. game should be pretty simple though unless our most townie players is also our blues.
I come in for the scraps
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 17:56 GMT
#683
On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?


i think he explained this already.

The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2015 18:01 GMT
#684
On July 21 2015 02:56 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?


i think he explained this already.

The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had.

It is impossible because:
(1) He posted AFTER i had given my reasoning
(2) I gave my reasoning BEFORE Damdred
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 18:02 GMT
#685
On July 21 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 02:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?


i think he explained this already.

The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had.

It is impossible because:
(1) He posted AFTER i had given my reasoning
(2) I gave my reasoning BEFORE Damdred


you didn't give a reason for yamato being town after yamato's initial 3 posts
that is what he is talking about
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2015 18:04 GMT
#686
On July 21 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?


i think he explained this already.

The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had.

It is impossible because:
(1) He posted AFTER i had given my reasoning
(2) I gave my reasoning BEFORE Damdred


you didn't give a reason for yamato being town after yamato's initial 3 posts
that is what he is talking about

I understand.
What i don't understand is Damdred did the EXACT same thing i did.

Why does he come to a totally different conclusion regarding us two? Just because i say "toen and Damdred says "maybe town". Given the explanations we gave, especailly when i say "i am not 100% sure of this but.." it should be clear to anyone with any brain that is just how i word things - and that me and Damdred mean the exact same thing.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 18:09 GMT
#687
On July 21 2015 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?


i think he explained this already.

The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had.

It is impossible because:
(1) He posted AFTER i had given my reasoning
(2) I gave my reasoning BEFORE Damdred


you didn't give a reason for yamato being town after yamato's initial 3 posts
that is what he is talking about

I understand.
What i don't understand is Damdred did the EXACT same thing i did.

Why does he come to a totally different conclusion regarding us two? Just because i say "toen and Damdred says "maybe town". Given the explanations we gave, especailly when i say "i am not 100% sure of this but.." it should be clear to anyone with any brain that is just how i word things - and that me and Damdred mean the exact same thing.


oh yeh I see the first time Damdred read yamato as town now.

that's a good point
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2015 18:11 GMT
#688
And Damdred LITERALLY talks about the first posts from yamato (he says things about the policy lynch and stuff) in his explanation, so it is impossible he thinks me and Damdred are talking about different posts.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 18:12 GMT
#689
On July 21 2015 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?


i think he explained this already.

The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had.

It is impossible because:
(1) He posted AFTER i had given my reasoning
(2) I gave my reasoning BEFORE Damdred


you didn't give a reason for yamato being town after yamato's initial 3 posts
that is what he is talking about

I understand.
What i don't understand is Damdred did the EXACT same thing i did.

Why does he come to a totally different conclusion regarding us two? Just because i say "toen and Damdred says "maybe town". Given the explanations we gave, especailly when i say "i am not 100% sure of this but.." it should be clear to anyone with any brain that is just how i word things - and that me and Damdred mean the exact same thing.


I think what he is getting at is your explanation of the read , specifically this post

On July 18 2015 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think onegu has posted much alignment indicative thngs so far.
Maaaaaayyyyybe he is town as he seems to be interested in my read on him.
Idk yet. He uses alot of AtE as scum. We'll see.

Yamato is town because there is a clarly seen thought process behind his posting. Imo his posts as mafia lack that. It's hard to explain. I'll elaborate further in case people think he is mafia when i get home in ~10h.


comes at a point where yamato hasn't made that many posts and plot can't see this "thought process idea". whereas damdred just said, "yeh maybe he's town with no explanation.

when damdred gave the longer explanation for why yamato is town it made more sense given that yamato had posted more.

Basically you explained your read too early is the overall idea i guess.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 18:14 GMT
#690
maybe plotspot and fecalfeast are both mafia and jonny got confused with which partner he was defending.

=)
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 18:16 GMT
#691
Basically rayn I can actually see where plotspot is coming from with his points.

I'm looking through his stuff and his responses to me, given how eager he is to explain his thought process and interact here I don't want to lynch him tomorrow
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2015 18:18 GMT
#692
On July 21 2015 03:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 21 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?


i think he explained this already.

The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had.

It is impossible because:
(1) He posted AFTER i had given my reasoning
(2) I gave my reasoning BEFORE Damdred


you didn't give a reason for yamato being town after yamato's initial 3 posts
that is what he is talking about

I understand.
What i don't understand is Damdred did the EXACT same thing i did.

Why does he come to a totally different conclusion regarding us two? Just because i say "toen and Damdred says "maybe town". Given the explanations we gave, especailly when i say "i am not 100% sure of this but.." it should be clear to anyone with any brain that is just how i word things - and that me and Damdred mean the exact same thing.


I think what he is getting at is your explanation of the read , specifically this post

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think onegu has posted much alignment indicative thngs so far.
Maaaaaayyyyybe he is town as he seems to be interested in my read on him.
Idk yet. He uses alot of AtE as scum. We'll see.

Yamato is town because there is a clarly seen thought process behind his posting. Imo his posts as mafia lack that. It's hard to explain. I'll elaborate further in case people think he is mafia when i get home in ~10h.


comes at a point where yamato hasn't made that many posts and plot can't see this "thought process idea". whereas damdred just said, "yeh maybe he's town with no explanation.

when damdred gave the longer explanation for why yamato is town it made more sense given that yamato had posted more.

Basically you explained your read too early is the overall idea i guess.

The problem still stands.

Damdred says he has a townread on yamato at the same time i do (only 3-4 posts in).
I explain my read.
yamato posts more.
Damdred gives his explanation after yamato posts more (but talks about only of those 3-4 first posts).
I give more of an explanation which is the same as Damdred's (as it was at first aswell).

plotspot agrees with Damdred's explanation but somehow mine isn't good (while he is even townreading yamato aswell).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2015 18:19 GMT
#693
On July 21 2015 03:16 KelsierSC wrote:
Basically rayn I can actually see where plotspot is coming from with his points.

I'm looking through his stuff and his responses to me, given how eager he is to explain his thought process and interact here I don't want to lynch him tomorrow

I also do not agree at all with his play though.
Like he literally wasted 48 first hours of the game into having no conclusions on the four people (me,you,damd,geript).
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 18:23 GMT
#694
On July 21 2015 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 03:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 21 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts.

However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me.
Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not?


i think he explained this already.

The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had.

It is impossible because:
(1) He posted AFTER i had given my reasoning
(2) I gave my reasoning BEFORE Damdred


you didn't give a reason for yamato being town after yamato's initial 3 posts
that is what he is talking about

I understand.
What i don't understand is Damdred did the EXACT same thing i did.

Why does he come to a totally different conclusion regarding us two? Just because i say "toen and Damdred says "maybe town". Given the explanations we gave, especailly when i say "i am not 100% sure of this but.." it should be clear to anyone with any brain that is just how i word things - and that me and Damdred mean the exact same thing.


I think what he is getting at is your explanation of the read , specifically this post

On July 18 2015 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think onegu has posted much alignment indicative thngs so far.
Maaaaaayyyyybe he is town as he seems to be interested in my read on him.
Idk yet. He uses alot of AtE as scum. We'll see.

Yamato is town because there is a clarly seen thought process behind his posting. Imo his posts as mafia lack that. It's hard to explain. I'll elaborate further in case people think he is mafia when i get home in ~10h.


comes at a point where yamato hasn't made that many posts and plot can't see this "thought process idea". whereas damdred just said, "yeh maybe he's town with no explanation.

when damdred gave the longer explanation for why yamato is town it made more sense given that yamato had posted more.

Basically you explained your read too early is the overall idea i guess.

The problem still stands.

Damdred says he has a townread on yamato at the same time i do (only 3-4 posts in).
I explain my read.
yamato posts more.
Damdred gives his explanation after yamato posts more (but talks about only of those 3-4 first posts).
I give more of an explanation which is the same as Damdred's (as it was at first aswell).

plotspot agrees with Damdred's explanation but somehow mine isn't good (while he is even townreading yamato aswell).




On July 19 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote:
Rayn and I use the same metric for reading Yamato, and a lot of it comes from experience in playing with him


For instance the somewhat pushing the policy lynch and some of his other posts just feel like he's thinking about the game a little bit at least. I can't quote atm but I'm pretty sure he is town.

Oneg might be scum for actually trying early d1 instead of using the oneg rule or trolling around until later.

I think rayn is town here, he seems much more measured.

Like kels as well.

And to ff statement about anger some of your posts fo feel angry or perturbed like when I had to drag a interaction out of you, and when you are willing to get your page of filter fast about nothing
meh ff could still be scum


When damdred posted this, that doesn't mean he is just talking about the first 2 posts.
I can see where plotspot is coming from, because you explained the read early it came to his attention. I think that is reasonable.
What's more important is his tone here, his willingness to explain and interact. He feels much townier to me than he did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2015 18:24 GMT
#695
It also makes pretty much no sense to me he is interested in me amongst other three people.
He can't make up his mind if one of us is mafia. I apparently hadn't answered him properly. He NEVER re-questions me about my yamato read while i am one of the people he considers possible mafia. He just sits with his "idk reads" for the whole day not wanting to figure out anything.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 18:25 GMT
#696
On July 21 2015 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It also makes pretty much no sense to me he is interested in me amongst other three people.
He can't make up his mind if one of us is mafia. I apparently hadn't answered him properly. He NEVER re-questions me about my yamato read while i am one of the people he considers possible mafia. He just sits with his "idk reads" for the whole day not wanting to figure out anything.


mhmm yeh his day was pretty terrible

I don't know
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2015 18:28 GMT
#697
On July 21 2015 03:23 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote:
Rayn and I use the same metric for reading Yamato, and a lot of it comes from experience in playing with him


For instance the somewhat pushing the policy lynch and some of his other posts just feel like he's thinking about the game a little bit at least. I can't quote atm but I'm pretty sure he is town.


When damdred posted this, that doesn't mean he is just talking about the first 2 posts.
I can see where plotspot is coming from, because you explained the read early it came to his attention. I think that is reasonable.
What's more important is his tone here, his willingness to explain and interact. He feels much townier to me than he did.

Like the bolded part is LITERALLY yamato's opening post!!
Why would you ever think Damdred's read on yamato comes from different posts than mine does, as he LITERALLY uses yamato's opening post as evidence - backed up by the fact Damdred says "yamato might be town" after only three posts of his.

Like there is no reason to ever assume my read comes from different posts than Damdred*s.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 20 2015 18:28 GMT
#698
Just woke up. WHo are you two talking about?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 20 2015 18:28 GMT
#699
plot marks the spot
I come in for the scraps
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 20 2015 18:30 GMT
#700
On July 21 2015 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 03:23 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 19 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote:
Rayn and I use the same metric for reading Yamato, and a lot of it comes from experience in playing with him


For instance the somewhat pushing the policy lynch and some of his other posts just feel like he's thinking about the game a little bit at least. I can't quote atm but I'm pretty sure he is town.


When damdred posted this, that doesn't mean he is just talking about the first 2 posts.
I can see where plotspot is coming from, because you explained the read early it came to his attention. I think that is reasonable.
What's more important is his tone here, his willingness to explain and interact. He feels much townier to me than he did.

Like the bolded part is LITERALLY yamato's opening post!!
Why would you ever think Damdred's read on yamato comes from different posts than mine does, as he LITERALLY uses yamato's opening post as evidence - backed up by the fact Damdred says "yamato might be town" after only three posts of his.

Like there is no reason to ever assume my read comes from different posts than Damdred*s.


Damdred also says "some other posts" so he isn't necessarily only taking about the first 2.

It's a really small detail rayn, like you explained the read early, that probably latched onto his mind.
He might be scum , his day was bad and I didn't like the 2 world thing he was trying to set up.
but I think his interactions this night have been ok.
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