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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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which one of Onegu, yamato & FF is town? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Onegu doesn't talk about anything related to anything whenever he posts. yamato's response to a scumflip makes no sense from town perspective. | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
The one I believe to be most townish were you, from there I tried to established whether damdred could be mafia, but it was hard, because I actually had damdred as townish too. So I left you two like that. Then kelsier and geript. The only one that matters was probably geript, because he had still 2 votes or so. I was trying to find evidences that geript was mafia, but no I couldn't, He was here fighting all this time, and the Kel vs him was some misunderstanding. I was running out of time and I thought I'm not voting for someone I'm not certain was more scummy than ff. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Rels
France13467 Posts
If we have a vig, he should shoot him because : - if he stays silent, we lose a day not talking about anything - I feel almost everyone wants to lynch him, so if he is town, we won't gain any info | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I still want you to elaborate on this. This is literally what happened timewise: rayn: yamato is town people: why? rayn: because of this... damdred: [gives same explanation i did] rayn: yeah damdred put that better plotspot: Damdred is town for explaining his town read on yamato, rayn is null because he has an unexplained townread on yamato rayn: what? that is not true. i literally gave the same reasoning for yamato to be most likely town BEFORE damdred did it plotspot: yamato has made 3 posts before you said "nvm yamato is town". Damdred only said "Kinda think Yamato feels town". In my opinion there is a difference in certainty the way both of you expressed it. rayn: no we literally said the same thing. me saying "town" instead of "maybe town" (which btw i actually did say if you read anything closely) doesn't mean anything plotspot: Wait, I didn't form a read about you based on not knowing where you got your hard townread on yamato so fast. I was wondering how you can townread someone so fast. You say "yamato is town" at that moment. Is it (a) you have advanced meta or (b) you think "yamato might be town" but say "yamato is town" for undisclosed reasons? Which is it? So now it is not about my read? It's about me townreading someone so fast. Why can't i townread someone so fast? Why can Damdred? And why is it townie for him and not for me? Again, we had LITERALLY the same exact reasoning for the read, not to mention i gave my reasoning first, so it's again impossible for you to consider i made up my reasoning from town!Damdred's. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
i'll have some more in depth thoughts shortly, but I kinda feel that rayn is town here again. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 21 2015 00:58 Damdred wrote: I kinda would rather shoot onegu maybe tonight. i'll have some more in depth thoughts shortly, but I kinda feel that rayn is town here again. well you called me town,scum,town,scum,town for my read on you. Then you called me scum again. Now you call me town again. And your reasoning for scumreading is that "rayn changes his read on me based on same things". hypocrite  I am being honest if you didn't help lynching JL that much i would be all over you. But you are most likely town. Just please do not use the same reasoning you do yourself to scumread people. It's really bad. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 18 2015 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yamato is town because there is a clarly seen thought process behind his posting. Imo his posts as mafia lack that. It's hard to explain. I'll elaborate further in case people think he is mafia when i get home in ~10h. In between here Damdred elaborates on his read on yamato. On July 19 2015 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well yeah, Damdred put that yamato read well. Yamato will explain what he is thinking eventually. At the moment i don't care what his thought process is but i can see there being one. That is how i literally read yamato early on in the game. I am not claiming i am 100% accurate on that this early on, but i am really confident i will get his alignment right when he starts posting more and making bigger posts that actually show his thought process. And yes, so far he seems town for his posts. There is no bullshit like in scumato posts there pretty much always is more or If someone who claims they have read the thread makes a post like this: You say "yamato is town" at that moment. Is it (a) you have advanced meta or (b) you think "yamato might be town" but say "yamato is town" for undisclosed reasons? Which is it? ... my gut says they are either lying or not reading properly. So which is it plotspot, and why? | ||
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Damdred
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I did ask geript to help me understand the thought process he saw that's true, and the weird read on jl made me question your alignment. and I went townish-scum-town ty very much | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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plotspot
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If i was around yesterday (FYI i never intentionally afk as mafia - truth is i was sick, probably because of hangover) i would have 100% voted for JL as he either lied about my presence in the game or didn't read the thread at all. He literally called me "inactive" when i had the most posts in the game. So yeah. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 21 2015 01:11 plotspot wrote: yea wait give me some time, I was searching for that part, there were two phases where you guys town read yamato. It could be that we talk about the wrong part. Interesting. Go ahead please. | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On July 18 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote: I propose a policy lynch of plotspot On July 18 2015 08:31 yamato77 wrote: I still want to lynch plotspot. On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote: Geript also not a terrible lynch. Neither is FF for that matter. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Then Damdred reads him slightly town. On July 18 2015 12:47 Damdred wrote: Kinda think Yamato feels town. You said afterwards On July 18 2015 16:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nvm yamato is town. So what I said earlier On July 19 2015 05:13 plotspot wrote: You say "yamato is town" at that moment. Is it (a) you have advanced meta or (b) you think "yamato might be town" but say "yamato is town" for undisclosed reasons? Which is it? applies to this and not to your quoted posts recently. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Obviously it applies to my recently quoted posts because those posts happened before you made your post. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Did you just read Damdred's explanation and not mine? Or what? | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On July 18 2015 18:09 yamato77 wrote: rayn could be town On July 18 2015 18:09 yamato77 wrote: damdred almost certainly is btw I also think onegu is leaning town On July 18 2015 18:18 yamato77 wrote: it's early in this game and there aren't many posts overall onegu has been fairly active early in this game, however trollish he has been On July 18 2015 18:22 yamato77 wrote: so if he plays early D1 he's mafia? it is almost certainly bad meta Then you posted this On July 18 2015 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yamato is town because there is a clarly seen thought process behind his posting. Imo his posts as mafia lack that. It's hard to explain. I'll elaborate further in case people think he is mafia when i get home in ~10h. Then damdred post this On July 19 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote: Rayn and I use the same metric for reading Yamato, and a lot of it comes from experience in playing with him For instance the somewhat pushing the policy lynch and some of his other posts just feel like he's thinking about the game a little bit at least. I can't quote atm but I'm pretty sure he is town. Then you posted this: On July 19 2015 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well yeah, Damdred put that yamato read well. Yamato will explain what he is thinking eventually. At the moment i don't care what his thought process is but i can see there being one. That is how i literally read yamato early on in the game. I am not claiming i am 100% accurate on that this early on, but i am really confident i will get his alignment right when he starts posting more and making bigger posts that actually show his thought process. And yes, so far he seems town for his posts. There is no bullshit like in scumato posts there pretty much always is more or After that I came with my list where I was wondering how you can hardread yamato town so fast after his 3 initial posts. I'm not talking about his later 4 posts, after which you provided your reasonings on town-reading yamato. --- So I'm wondering about these two phases. After 3 initial posts from yamato you say "yamato is town". Was it (a) some advanced meta or (b) you think yamato might be town, but still said he IS town because you express yourself like that. Would your explanation be any different if yamato hasn't made his 4 additional posts? So after his 3 initial posts, you would still use your explanation and the 4 additional ones didn't matter and were just coincidence? I just want to know how you townread yamato after 3 posts, without the additional 4 posts, because they are there in between your actual explanation, I cannot simply ignore them. What were the reasons you townread him after 3 posts (not after 7 posts total of yamato). Like I totally accept it if you said, yeah they wouldn't have changed my reasonings at all, it's just coincidence or reinforcements of what I think and posted as reasoning. | ||
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plotspot
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