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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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You seem to be having none. | ||
Fecalfeast
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 20 2015 19:43 Fecalfeast wrote: the way he stated that, saying that you called that the geript lynch was 'too ez to be true' implies that he knows geript's alignment Well of course geript is town. So is Rels. He literally made the JL lynch happen. Cant you see that? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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I cant understand how a townie would accuse the most townie player in the game over something this stupid. | ||
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Fecalfeast
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KelsierSC
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Fecalfeast
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KelsierSC
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rayn,onegu,yamato,plotspot,milo So in order of most town to scum I think of that group rayn has been the towniest, he may have been wrong a few times. (johnny,damdred,geript) but I think his thought process about the geript lynch was good and his read on damdred seemed like he believed it. Plus he claimed "lynch damdred if he is town lynch me d2" which feels very committal. Onegu - I have no idea what is happening , totally bizarre day. Plotspot, he's played weird. his early d1 seemed very strange, then his list post On July 19 2015 03:28 plotspot wrote: Thess are my rough reads so far. Damdred: general sense making which is NAI, but does seem very involving and effortful, hence town lean Fecalfeast: not sure if “angry” is the right word but IMO he overreacts with the “I concede”, voting himself, talking to yamato about bussing, it’s all NAI. KSC: claiming VT, kinda aggressive towards me, is he town for doing this? Could he be mafia setting up an agenda? Onegu: pff, town? He’s quite carefree in his posts, I’d read him town. Yamato: suggesting a policy lynch, yamato not explaining a lot of things in the beginning, the interaction with Rels later kinda gives him his first townpoints in my eyes, This kinda explains pretty well why I’d think yamato is town. JonnyLaw: ? too few posts, the tone looks towny though I don’t have any meta Geript: geript has a pregame excuse of being rather inactive, too few posts, I can’t read anything from him yet, though it is of course strange how he doesn’t explain why he wants to lynch Onegu, yamato or Kelsier Raynpelikoneet (mispelled filter name): I’d say town, but he draws so much ogi and meta, also some of his reads are quite mind-boggling to me: Like: 1. yamato is town after 3-4 posts of his 2. Vayne being town after 2 posts 3. jonnylaw 4-5 posts into town The thing is I kinda agree and have town vibes about them, but I don’t say “townpile” or “is town”, but that may just be the way he expresses himself. Rels: I’d tend to agree with VA, but Rels is like this, asking many questions, often citing unanswered questions from somebody else and asking them to be answered, it’s NAI imo. Not sure about Rels, could have been voting me to get info. VayneAuthority: late, but imo good entrance, he does provide reasons for his reads when prompted, townlean I have to eat dinner now. If you want my opinion on particular topics, I'll try to give my opinions later. he sort of slips johnny as town for no reason. @plotspot I want to know how your yamato read developed. @Rayn you brought up about how his EOD made no sense from a mafia perspective. Can you explain this to me. Milo - AFK Yamato - Again I have my own personal feeling that he was pocketing me, his reaction to having a mafia lynched was totally out of proportion. He was against a johnny lynch On July 20 2015 02:22 yamato77 wrote: Geript is not town. Rayn ands damdred both probably are Johnny lynch is a complete crapshoot. He then came back with this. On July 20 2015 10:01 yamato77 wrote: You are all retarded Don't pat yourselves on the back just because you lynched a mafia today this isn't how town should feel. Plus that d1 lynch was actually very good, VA and rels made good cases and he didn't come back for the defence. So calling people who voted him retarded just isn't a good assesment. Milo - AFK probably mafia. I'd lynch Yamato or Plotspot tomorrow. Milo probably gets modkilled. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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KelsierSC
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On July 20 2015 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is no way plotspot as mafia is going to save JL at that point. He would have bussed for cred if he was mafia most likely. well he'd already called johnny town so it looks bad if he just decides to jump on the wagon at the end | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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If my thought process on geript was good why did you continue pushing him? | ||
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KelsierSC
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On July 20 2015 21:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Kelsier: If my thought process on geript was good why did you continue pushing him? Because I just went back and read through. The first time I saw it I still thought geript was mafia so I kept pushing him. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 20 2015 22:01 KelsierSC wrote: Because I just went back and read through. The first time I saw it I still thought geript was mafia so I kept pushing him. So what has changed? Just because i was right and geript is most likely town does not mean i am town for it. | ||
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KelsierSC
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On July 20 2015 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: So what has changed? Just because i was right and geript is most likely town does not mean i am town for it. Well I don't think geript is mafia anymore so I could go back and look at things with a different perspective. I looked over the people who didn't vote on Johnny. I had you as town from D1 anyway and I saw that post about geript being town because mafia just wasn't giving a fuck about saving him. That seemed to come from a town perspective. | ||
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plotspot
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My reads were about 20 hours into the game. I said these were rough reads, I put a question mark on Jonny, I even said it's just a tone read with no meta. I didn't say I townread him hard in this, there was clearly lots of uncertainty in this read. Jonny had 2 phases of posting. In the first phase he makes 4 posts. If you read again his 4 posts and say "ok, if somebody posted like that, then 95% of the time he is mafia", then you obviously have some super skills. I tended to think "ok, jonny doesn't look clean here, but it's rather he could be town and mafia uses his posts to gather a wagon on him later" At that time, remember that the most suspicion fell on geript, he had 3 votes. I was already thinking "yea looks nice, but I don't buy it, I don't think geript is gonna get lynched". Jonny came in with his reason why he had to afk 34 hours into the game. Then suddenly I see the gears shifting starting on p18. Damdred and geript talking to each other with Damdred ever so much pushing a lynch on jonny for his weird posts. Well in retrospect we can say it was good, damdred saw jonny appearing and wants to get more info out of him. But at that time it looked to me like my thoughts are being confirmed. Votes are shifting away from geript, with Damdred casting suspicion onto jonny, trying to convince geript as well. Geript disagrees for a while, but then finally jumps to jonny too. Hence later I said there was a strong connection between Damdred and geript. Geript even earlier talks about Damdred being his mason partner,which confused me a bit as there was no mason in this game. He probably simply meant they can read each other very well, which is meta meta meta again. I had a slight townread on Damdred, but the things unfolding there would fit the theory I had in mind, especially when rayn jumps in later and they both started to scumread each other. Geript was still of the opinion that we should lynch Kelsier, while rayn hard defends him (Kelsier). At that time for me, all of the 4 Kelsier, rayn, geript and Damdred could be potentially be mafia. So till the very end I was still working on figuring out the Kel vs geript story, as I believed I could find mafia there. I also looked at the case rels had against jonny and it hinges on exactly the part that he thinks the smiley argument was directed at FF and not me. The thing is I think it is NAI at best. Anybody could have made that mistake, why is such a mistake reserved for mafia? It's too blatant and irreparable, so it doesn't really matter what jonny says afterwards in his defense. This is what he chose to say as point four of Rels case: On July 20 2015 05:43 Rels wrote: Forth When I ask Jonny to confirm that explanation, he backs off and abandon his previous explanation. + Show Spoiler + On July 20 2015 03:04 JonnyLaw wrote: oh uhh...sure I don't know what I was thinking there to be honest. I was writing a quick post before I passed out after a late night. Apparently it's what I felt at that particular moment. We can debate this one line if that's what you want but I'd rather talk about someone important. So he backpedals like a mafia? If he was town, what should he have said instead? So I thought if he was screwed anyway, regardless of being scum or town, why must he be screwed as mafia. It's NAI. --- So in summary, I had a very-soft town read on jonny with some doubts. The townreading was reinforced when my paranoid senses got fed when votes were slowly piling on jonny, like I'd rather want to believe it is more difficult than that, that the scum team does something like that, rather than jonny just being scum. The case of Rels is nice, but I thought it was NAI. I voted for fecalfeast because it was the best I could do, when I was under time-pressure and not be able to clearly identify scum in either Kelsier or geript. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Then your vote enss up on.... FecalFeast?!?! | ||
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