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I don't know how are they good.
He has defended himself against me, and i find his defense unreasonable, because it oly shows he is either not reading properly or not processing what he reads at all.
Then he has defended himself against why didn't he vote for JL. First of all his vote on FF is a complete throwaway. Second of all, as per his N1 posts he thought there is at least a chance geript is mafia, and he thought JL is not. The thing that a townie would do in that spot is to vote for geript. Like:
On July 20 2015 07:27 plotspot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 07:18 Damdred wrote:
It is ok, the vindictiveness isn't that huge a deal. The killer was that Geript vote (which sorta confirms geript), his weird unexplained reads and screwing off when he was unable to,be here.
I think we have one,mafia on wagon and one off though.
Gut feeling it's ff and rayn. I sorta had my doubts about geript, because he is so aggressive (I mean I don't know him, if you guys have better meta and read him better then that's cool), but then to the very end I tried to figure out who could be more scum: him or Kelsier and I couldn't decide because their whole argument hinged on misunderstandings from somewhere halfway in.
this sorta thing is basically just really stupid. kelsier is never getting lynched. he thinks one of them might be scum.
both of them are on the JL wagon. JL is his townread. For him it apparently doesn't mean anything? He jsut... Doesn't do anything.
I can't understand how there is anything logical in that. Given that in his earlier games, while not having many reads, he at least TRIES to vote and lynch people he think are mafia.
And no, i don't consider a throwaway vote 30min before EOD a "vote to lynch someone". I consider it a complete throwaway vote.
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Rayn. Using that logic plots has every reasonable excuse to vote for me. Yet doesn't.
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I'll say this. Plots is a decent cop check. As are yam and onegu.
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On July 21 2015 03:44 geript wrote:
Rayn. Using that logic plots has every reasonable excuse to vote for me. Yet doesn't.
He also has every reason (as town) to vote for you. Which would be logical. Yet he doesn't do that.
Usually when someone does something that cannot be explained in any way it means they are mafia.
Because we don't have all the information, they do. It can be based on something i don't know. Or something he thinks. idk.
What i do know is that he isn't acting what is supposed to be logical to him as town at all.
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The point I'm making is that his action was illogical as any alignment. So I don't think that makes him anything other than illogical.
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I still think plots is town.
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On July 21 2015 03:50 geript wrote:
The point I'm making is that his action was illogical as any alignment. So I don't think that makes him anything other than illogical.
Not necessarily. JL is his townread. It is possible he thinks he gets called out for voting for him if he does that. In case he votes for you he probably gets called out even more (assuming he is mafia here) because he voted with flipped scum. Who knows.
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I would like to suggest that ff is a great shot tonight or a decent lynch.
JL town read on him is still bothering me and it feels like a read you give to a mafia team mate over a town member. Plus he was sorta buddying towards geript about a Yamato lynch, jumped on jl at a good time I admit but I think we were pushing that through anyway, even though he promises work he gives nothing back.
I'm pretty sure he's the best vig shot tonight
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Gets called out for being wrong. But everything makes sense. Whereas now he gets called out for random awful wasted vote and being wrong and nothing making sense.
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On July 21 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote:
I would like to suggest that ff is a great shot tonight or a decent lynch.
JL town read on him is still bothering me and it feels like a read you give to a mafia team mate over a town member. Plus he was sorta buddying towards geript about a Yamato lynch, jumped on jl at a good time I admit but I think we were pushing that through anyway, even though he promises work he gives nothing back.
I'm pretty sure he's the best vig shot tonight
I don't understand FF's attack on Rels on N1.
Now he claims it is not an attack.
But then, wtf is it? Like what is the reason to question a perfectly valid statement if it not an attack?
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Plot is a weird person atm.
I'm not sure that his weird reaction to my tr and rayns tr makes him scum. Townies don't make sense all the time and not sure if he's scum why he doesn't get town cred for voting jl instead of somewhat pushing against it.
I'm not sure if lynch him tommorow ehh
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meh no Damdred. It actually makes no sense for FF to be mafia.
Based on the votes and the timing geript would be more likely to be mafia.
At the time FF jumped on JL geript was still pursuing other lynches. There is a really good reason for FF to in fact go with geript against the world because if geript gets support it's more likely he will yell his lynch through over you & Rels.
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On July 21 2015 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote:
I would like to suggest that ff is a great shot tonight or a decent lynch.
JL town read on him is still bothering me and it feels like a read you give to a mafia team mate over a town member. Plus he was sorta buddying towards geript about a Yamato lynch, jumped on jl at a good time I admit but I think we were pushing that through anyway, even though he promises work he gives nothing back.
I'm pretty sure he's the best vig shot tonight
I don't understand FF's attack on Rels on N1. Now he claims it is not an attack. But then, wtf is it? Like what is the reason to question a perfectly valid statement if it not an attack?
I like this point to.
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Geript was starting to get support for a Yamato lynch actually kel was going for him to.
And I believe I started pushing them back, simple truth I don't think geript could of convinced the people who were active to go I guess?
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The timing of ff's vote I struggle with
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Let's pretend Yam is town though. Why doesn't yam get more support/votes?
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On July 21 2015 04:03 Damdred wrote:
Geript was starting to get support for a Yamato lynch actually kel was going for him to.
And I believe I started pushing them back, simple truth I don't think geript could of convinced the people who were active to go I guess?
I strongly believe you cannot outargue geript with Rels in case geript gets steam behind.
That's also why i believe geript is town, because he didn't do it. 
If i was mafia in FF's situation i would try to make geript lynch a townie, not vote for JL instead (before geript).
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On July 21 2015 04:03 Damdred wrote:
Geript was starting to get support for a Yamato lynch actually kel was going for him to.
And I believe I started pushing them back, simple truth I don't think geript could of convinced the people who were active to go I guess?
there was no support for that lynch
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Like kels was iirc the only person who was ok joining that lynch. Yet onegu didn't want to lynch him until d2 and iirc the both kinda want to lynch each other now.
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Like FF could be mafia, but that is only if yamato is mafia.
I believe he would have had geript lynch yamato instead of JL vote (yamato was his scumread aswell).
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