Newbie Student Mafia X - Page 108

On May 28 2015 21:51 disformation wrote:
Shit. I'll have to think about this a lot when I get home later.
##unvote for now...

On May 29 2015 06:09 disformation wrote:
Yeah, I agree that we should stop talking about roles and claims that much and just lynch the scummiest person around.

batsnacks whole D2 play makes basically no sense without him being the cop.
ticktoc being the 2nd mason makes a lot of sense.
plotspot is an unclaimed blue after all...

A pity that a lot of people look so scummy. Let me waffle around for a bit... ##unvote
Ah btw "good news": evening plans for tomorrow were cancelled so I'll be around for EoD and stuff tomorrow.

I wish I could be of more help to town, but I am kinda fatigued atm. =/
This game...

On May 30 2015 03:09 disformation wrote:


You are awefully quick to pick up that vote after I mention your name.
And I think I already unvoted. (Vote count please?)

But stay with me:
Without the blue claims and myself who is left:
bunnies: who looks not good at all on D2 and D3, but has a green check. Not 100% comfortable to lynch a green check.
Sulfurus: who looked really good D1, did nothing D2, looks at bit better as of today.
boxerfred: Not really sold either way.
sicklucker: Looks pretty good D3, but there are some D2 plays that confuse me and he hasn't even bothered to explain. Also ridic hard to read overall.
disformation: yeah I am not the greatest, but in my mind it is obvious that I am at trying to solve this. I am also trying to show you WHY I am waffling that much. Also since sicklucker tried this already we know that I am not allowed to vote myself.

So. 3+ people on that list are town making the game a lot harder and I am having a hard time deciding who on that list is the scummiest person around.

On May 30 2015 05:01 disformation wrote:


Super glad to see that I am not the only one having trouble with this.
btw..
##unvote
Not going to waste my vote.

On May 30 2015 05:27 disformation wrote:
Hmm... looking at Sulfurus and 27ninjabunnies reasons to vote each other:
Sulfurus:
+ Show Spoiler +

##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies

27ninjabunnies:
+ Show Spoiler +

By comparing these two:
Sulfurus asks her a really good question. She doesn't answer that.
Meanwhile 27ninjabunnies kinda sheeps the general points everyone raises about Sulfurus. And I kinda have a problem that she went from "best newbie ever" to "Day 1 was okay". Although she says that she needs to reevaluate him D2, so this kinda fits in her read progression.

On May 30 2015 05:39 disformation wrote:


After rereading the conclusion:
27ninjabunnies looks straight up more scummy her. I hesitated voting her because the math suggests this might be a bad idea. Thought about it for a second and reconsidered.
How is lynching the scummiest person around a bad idea?

##vote 27ninjabunnies
This time for real and I want to be really amazed before I unvote this time.

sry for waffling around this much town.

On May 30 2015 06:53 plotspot wrote:
Bunnies is 80% town with the check. 80%.

On May 30 2015 04:50 disformation wrote:
(ignoring reads and meta):
If there is a GF and the 3 blues are legit bunnies is still 5/6 town. That is like 83,33%.
Or did I miss something?

On May 30 2015 06:55 -Celestial- wrote:
T-minus FIVE MINUTES


27ninjabunnies (4) : Tictock (X), sicklucker, Tictock (X), Sulfurus, batsnacks (X), disformation (X), disformation, Barakos (X), boxerfred
Sulfurus (4) : batsnacks (X), Barakos (X), sicklucker (X), disformation (X), plotspot, Barakos (X), 27ninjabunnies, batsnacks, Barakos
plotspot (1) : Tictock (X), Barakos (X), disformation (X), Tictock (X), boxerfred (X), Tictock
boxerfred (0) : disformation (X)
disformation (0) : boxerfred (X), boxerfred (X)
no-lynch (0) : plotspot (X)

Not voting (0) :

Currently, 27ninjabunnies is set to be lynched!

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On May 30 2015 06:57 disformation wrote:


I flipped a fucking coin for this.

##unvote
##vote Sulfurus

On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth.

Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies.

That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them.

For reference, final vote count of day 1:



Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote.

I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL.

It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum.

Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds.

##vote sicklucker

On May 26 2015 08:06 boxerfred wrote:
formatting done right this time: ##vote sicklucker

On May 26 2015 17:56 boxerfred wrote:
@Breshke

I think that one goal of the mafia is to confuse people the best they can, keeping everyone unsure about the aligment of others. Since they are the ones that do not care as much for exact roles, they don't really care who to vote on on day 1. I'm playing advocatus diaboli now because right now, I'm thinking "Wait, but poking as many people as possible is a good thing since it makes them talk about who they are". However, this is not what SL did. While there are like 12 people or so in this game, he limited his seemingly random votes to three people. I can see a fake vote there: "I'll vote on my ally so I can bring that up in later days".

I don't think that this theory is enough to clearly pin sicklucker into a scum role. But his overall posts are more often than not oneliners, trolly, and he's really switching his commitment very often. Disinfo inspired me to analyze the posting pattern (because he analyzed my own posting pattern day 0) and SL really does not commit to longer posts that he can be nailed upon. Why is that? I think the best way to convince people that you actually have a town alignment is to explain your thoughts as well as possible. He does not.

I feel like in the following post, he broke that pattern of confusion and "not-really-answering-stuff":


He clearly says "she'll get out of it if she's town" - why doesn't he increase the pressure being put on bunnies? Why doesn't he jump the train on bunnies (since that, to me, is the obvious, easy and bulletproof solution to not get his own train going faster).

Last, but not least, there's this post from disinformation:



This post is like the most certain thing we have IMHO, since we know ( ) by now that Rels is town. His case towards SL was no bullshit to cover something.


Considering that Rels's post was originally inspired by Breshke's post, I will put Breshke on a clear town lean for me now.


Shady people:
- sicklucker (strong scum read by now)
- bunnies (scum read thus far, want to hear her answers to raised questions)
- that guy whose name I already forgot because he types so seldomly (sulfuras)
- disinformation (weak sk read by now, close to a null read)

Null reads:
- bill murray

rest appears to be townies. I'd say we lynch SL, check on bunnies and vigishoot dis. However, I'd like to put more pressure on dis because I'm really not too sure of his alignment by now. The guy's way too polite .

If I forget to answer any raised questions, remind me. I'm at work and.. well it's awkward .

On May 26 2015 19:59 boxerfred wrote:
Didn't see Barakos' post when I posted. Solid stuff on SL. Not really reconsidering my vote (since I initially put in on him for a scum read). Still interested in hearing Tictock reply to me.

On May 26 2015 23:02 boxerfred wrote:

Well if SL is SK and we all agree on "there is no SK" it wouldn't be the most intelligent move to kill someone next night, would it? So we can all just vote bunnies now.

##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies