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plotspot
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On May 31 2015 07:38 boxerfred wrote: Wait, this is my list from D2. I started the Dis/SL/bunnies stuff when everyone was on Sulf. Can you explain to me how the RB that you had on to you speaks for you not being GF? for now, too: ##vote: disformation On May 31 2015 08:37 boxerfred wrote: I'd love to know whether you didn't see the flawed logic or chose to ignore it. You're strengthening ticktocks case by that. Okay, so we have tic's huge case, explaining why Barakos and Plots are the GF pair - and we have the other case, where bunnies is GF and one of me, dis, sl is scum and where plots is the RB. (3rd possibility: GF + GF + RB setup which is not likely I guess since its the only scenario that would not include one scum member in between the three guys) So it comes down to Barakos and bunnies. If we lynch Barakos and he flips red, we pretty much have plots as the remaining scum member, eliminating chances. If we lynch bunnies and she flips red, we're down to three guys with one scum member on them. Those three guys are disinformation, sicklucker and myself. I'd go for lynching between the two. It's a 50% chance. True. That makes me feel like we should start with voting bunnies. Which I try to do since D2. I'm not lighting any fire (as you can see from my post). I'm reasoning. ##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies almost 2am here. good night. You vote the two other dudes. Then when I vote you your saying im the mafia, Ya ok | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On May 31 2015 08:39 boxerfred wrote: If I had to bet money on solving the game, I'd say 27nb as GF and SL or Dis as goon. Having a tendency towards SL by now. IM THE MAFIA BUT YOU VOTE THE OTHER TWO hummmm | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 31 2015 12:06 sicklucker wrote: You vote the two other dudes. Then when I vote you your saying im the mafia, Ya ok I say since D2 that bunnies is mafia and vote him. Also, I say dis or you are maf. Since I'm not sure who of them, I vote bunnies. On May 31 2015 12:07 sicklucker wrote: IM THE MAFIA BUT YOU VOTE THE OTHER TWO hummmm more caps when someone pushes on you, c'mon | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I Don't want to prove my case by a flip. I think I've given plenty of reasons to suspect plots. Even if plots was selecting his blocks at random, isn't it odd that he has now twice blocked the NK target? Why does the Town RB spend all D1 making charts, then not use any reasoning from his work in his read on Rels? It was clearly his best read if he was willing to use up his night action on him. Seems to me he is better at blocking those Mafia wants dead then mafia themselves. + Show Spoiler + Why am I the only person asking these questions? | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On May 30 2015 07:37 plotspot wrote: they will kill bats, that's for sure, and then they will try to lynch me. It's ok, I said I'd be fine with that if Sulfurus was town. This is a depressing game. Bats was the clear NK target, and he agreed. So why does he offer this excuse? On May 31 2015 07:15 plotspot wrote: I can't prove it anymore, I decided to listen to SL and blocked him, because I did believe that we could actually have 2 Masons. Why does he suddenly throw away his own thinking, and just listen to SL? Why does Bara do the same D3, just sheeping Bats vote, when every other day he has given his own clear reasoning? | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On May 29 2015 20:43 Barakos wrote: Without any role-stuff I would still be onto sl/disfo, but that's not going to happen today... it's complete bs, to argue about what would happen without roles, when there are roles... you can argue, if they are valid claims or not, but pretending they don't exist and not using this information to your advantage is bad townplay... you need to use everything there is... i am willing to speculate with you about fake-claims and stuff, because that is the reality the game takes place in, but to speculate, what would be without all the claims is just shutting your eyes and ignoring the major things that happend in the past 30 hours. So where is his case on SL or Dis? They are potential targets today... but no, he'd rather spend his time defending plots. The bolded part is a lie, he has never shown an once of thinking about plots claim being false, or any other role claim being false. This is obvious since he cant give good reasons why be believes plots claim. | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On May 31 2015 17:51 Tictock wrote: Plots himself posted this Bats was the clear NK target, and he agreed. So why does he offer this excuse? Why does he suddenly throw away his own thinking, and just listen to SL? Why does Bara do the same D3, just sheeping Bats vote, when every other day he has given his own clear reasoning? I explain that to you. SL pointed out that he saw something interesting at the 10 minute mark before EoD3 that could give us the win. He wonders whether I see it too. Then he spits his idea about blocking bats. I go back to that 10 minute mark before EoD3 and notice how bats swings from bunnies to Sulfurus with the reason that Sulfurus cares and shows up and is therefore Mafia. Then gets totally surprised by bunnies showing up too. At that time the "Bats fakeclaim + bunnies being his partner" make sense. In retrospect it would be Bats being mafia killing Breshke knowing he is Mason, giving away Barakos as town before EoN2, protecting bunny by giving her a green-check. It's extremely effective for Mafia to claim cop to protect their partners if they figure out we don't have cop, they basically make themselves unkillable. I thought hard about it before agreeing to this idea of SL, as it gave us great information (nevertheless) and a chance to win right there when Bats was really fake-claiming. And I post the thing you quoted way before SL pointed it out. I didn't "just" listen to SL, I saw a real chance in him being right when I watch the bats bunnies interaction. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
So what evidence did you see to make you think Bats claim was false? Him vote switching is poor evidence. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Why did you block Bara N2? Why did you think he was Mafia? | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I'm not impressed by your constantly dodging that question. | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On May 31 2015 18:16 Tictock wrote: @ Plots So what evidence did you see to make you think Bats claim was false? Him vote switching is poor evidence. No, it is just in retrospect poor evidence because Bats was cop. A misslip is good evidence otherwise. | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On May 31 2015 18:17 Tictock wrote: Also Plots Why did you block Bara N2? Why did you think he was Mafia? I told you before, I read the game he posted where he was mafia, and I thought my read about him before was wrong. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On May 31 2015 18:20 plotspot wrote: No, it is just in retrospect poor evidence because Bats was cop. A misslip is good evidence otherwise. No, you have to actually explain your thoughts. What did plots do that made you not believe his cop claim? What misslip? | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On May 31 2015 18:20 boxerfred wrote: okay before I'm offline for the next several hours: plots, I dare you to say one more time "I don't know anymore". Stop it. Please. Stop it. I'm so annoyed by that by now. Okay, it just reflects my state of mind. I will avoid it for your sake. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On May 31 2015 18:22 plotspot wrote: I told you before, I read the game he posted where he was mafia, and I thought my read about him before was wrong. He posted a game where he played Mafia and you thought there were similarities? Which ones? Do go on... | ||
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