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On November 07 2014 17:39 kushhhhhPerson: but think how easy it will be next time i roll scum This is from the campus mafia obs qt. I don't want to let kush have another easy game as scum. ##vote: kushm4sta Next: On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote: Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy? Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way. (@SL and bresh) If HTS is town this wishy washy post is not why. | ||
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On November 25 2014 10:11 Damdred wrote: @bats I missed you and glad you said that. Would you think I'm insane if I told you I'm scum reading half tight now I'd think you're insane but not because of scum reading hts. I was actually going to post something about bolded being tmi: On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote: Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy? Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way. but I didn't. but now I am I guess. I don't really think it's a big deal actually. | ||
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There is no such thing as scum slips, so no, dude didn't scum slip. That's what I meant when I said "I don't really think it's a big deal actually" in the post immediately above your question. kush is the most logical vote because he likes to take it easy as scum. If people vote him he'll be forced to contribute, which he is good at doing as town and not as scum. | ||
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On November 25 2014 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote: So then why did you post something that isnt a big deal, and didnt result in any conclusions for that dudes alignment? Seems absolutely pointless to me. I was responding to damdred. On November 25 2014 11:06 Oatsmaster wrote: so you think that pressure voting kush is gonna make him post? Do you have evidence to suggest that it is true? If he doesn't post I don't need to move my vote? I'm happy to lynch kush d1 if he doesn't contribute. That's why I voted him. | ||
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On November 25 2014 11:11 Oatsmaster wrote: So a 0 post kush is better than literally anything else. Im baffled mate. Your response to damdred is weak. A 0 post kush is better than anything else in the thread right now, yeah. I'm sorry you think my response to damdred is weak I'll try to elaborate. I don't think there's any reason to town read HTS right now, which is something SL and breshke both did. I can see why someone might scum read HTS (tmi in that post I quoted), but I don't really think that post I quoted is a big deal. I can just see why someone might scum read him for it. | ||
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On November 25 2014 11:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Who scumread HTS for the post quoted? No one, damdred said he was scum reading HTS and that post I quoted came to mind because it caught my attention. | ||
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On November 25 2014 11:29 Oatsmaster wrote: right so in essence, nobody scumread HTS for that post but nobody should scumread HTS for that post. I see. Exactly. See? You get it. It's like when I said this right after I quoted that post: On November 25 2014 10:15 batsnacks wrote: I don't really think it's a big deal actually. | ||
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On November 25 2014 11:33 Alakaslam wrote: see what is this? I agree with SL! hjijole vato wei! Someone interpret that too hey? Can't interpret anything unless you give reasons. | ||
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On November 25 2014 11:39 Alakaslam wrote: You see not with the eyes of chupazi. I will translate. I want town to tell me why I voted Breshke for what was obviously a joke. *GASP* That is so dry it probably won't work now! or maybe it will? I still want y'all to do it! consider it fellow student homework. You voted breshke because he fell for the trap? If that's true I might point out that 100% of the people who have fallen for my traps in the past have been town. | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote: He has bad posts regarding a read ohf HTS, his policy lynch on kush is really bad and he is using that to avoid playing the game and doing actual useful things. This isn't a read. None of oats' posts contain reads. oats is play is like 80% asking questions that have already been answered and 20% badgering the host about issues he could fix himself. If my plynch on kush is bad give me something better. I've seen oats play a lot better than he is doing right now. | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Completely not true. Back up your stats or you are lying and should die. I don't see why I have to play the game for you. Your mindset this game is totally off. You aren't interested in finding scum, you are interested in answering questions and posting for an okay amount. From what you say here, my lynch has much more reason than kush's lynch but you don't consider that at all. If all of this is true then your vote is in the right place and you should keep it there. On November 25 2014 12:33 Alakaslam wrote: Well PLZ just kusplain the Kush policy? I don't think anything interesting is happening in the thread so I vote kush because he has a habit of not playing as scum. I don't see any harm in giving him a hill to climb, especially after last game. | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:49 Oatsmaster wrote: ???? So your continuation is "you're right". I dont see how kush being scum last game makes him scum this game. Yeah, my continuation is "you're right." Now that you're right lets see where you take it. | ||
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##vote: Oatsmaster step it up oats | ||
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On November 25 2014 22:30 Breshke wrote: Bats do you disagree with kush that oats is being pro town? Kush said he was acting pro-town, not being pro-town. I agree with what kush said. | ||
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On November 25 2014 22:37 Breshke wrote: could you explain the difference between acting pro town and being pro town. Not without copy pasting dictionary definitions. | ||
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And I brought up he was the cop for anyone that might not have been in that game. | ||
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Thanks for post kush | ||
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His filter was only like 3 pages that game here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike | ||
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On November 26 2014 02:39 sicklucker wrote: Him rescinding doesint mean much to me. I defended myself very well and even had a pregame set plan that I pulled. Its more mafia if anything. I think I'm reading this wrong, when you said "more mafia than anything" you mean bresh or yourself? | ||
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Who do you think is mafia HTS? I think I was the closest thing to a scum read in your last reads post. | ||
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I agree that I was passive and didn't give reads in Fantasy Football mafia, and I agree that's how I tend to play as mafia in general, but that isn't how I'm playing this game. | ||
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On November 26 2014 09:22 Half the Sky wrote: I am not familiar with this terminology. I assume you mean kill is like a lynch/scum vote. but what is "marry" and "bang"? Also taking note of your inquiry, on kush, he did not strike me one way or another going through the thread, but let me filter and pull together his posts for a better read. "Bang" is what you shouldn't do before "marry" I hope this helps you. | ||
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On November 26 2014 09:27 sicklucker wrote: I said breske was null wtf? How am I a donkey town or mafia if after all of that I didnt get anything out of breske and said so(I got alot out of other people... like ALOT) If this is what you got: On November 26 2014 08:53 sicklucker wrote: Bet my left nut on towns - hts, trfel leaning towns - dicksmash, Ls, slam? Longshot crack pot day 1 mafia team call out for fun - rsoultin, Damdred, breske I think we got 2 mafia in the more experienced players, im liking alot of the new guys Then I don't agree that you got ALOT. | ||
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On November 26 2014 09:36 Trfel wrote: I just looked at all of your posts, and these are the only posts that I can see where you offer any sort of a read or an accusation whatsoever (I left out the post where you voted for Oatsmaster, but that didn't really say anything other than a vote). This seems to be an extremely short list to me, and lacks explanations. As for your read on Oatsmaster: I'm not a big fan of Oatsmaster's attitide, see below: But that doesn't matter. To me, he seems to have consistently shown a geniune desire to keep the thread on focus, and having that focus be searching for the mafia. He's asked a lot of questions, and despite having an actual argument against you, seems to be suspicious of rsoultin as well. To me, these are reads. I disagree with the rsoultin read, but it is still a read, with some logic behind it. Thus, for your "read" on Oatsmaster to be worth anything, you need to provide some more reasons for it. Well to me oats looks like he's nitpicking and fucking off. I'm pretty sure every person oats has communicated with this game has accused him of the same. He doesn't even follow up on his nitpicking e.g. when he asked me this: On November 26 2014 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote: He has like 2 proper posts. How in the world are you making a comparision off 2 votes? Also, why did you mention that he was a cop? And I responded with this: On November 26 2014 02:09 batsnacks wrote: His filter was only like 3 pages that game here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike And NOTHING. Zero conclusions made. He is just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking. | ||
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Meanwhile Trfel has contributed a massive case, he's followed up and voted, and no one has commented on any of it. If you're town get your priorities straight. If you're mafia keep talking about IRL excuses and timezones. | ||
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On November 26 2014 10:21 Trfel wrote: This seems to be the best he's gotten. My point still stands, to me you are looking very much like scum. Trying to turn people's attentions towards Oatsmaster doesn't change that. I'm CLEARLY not trying to turn attention. Exactly the opposite. I have been trying to get people to pay attention to you and your case. I think oats is scum and I'm trying to explain it to you. You are voting me because I, allegedly, don't have scum reads. | ||
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On November 25 2014 07:57 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: "they called me out better push the blame on Breske" He was the first to point this out and several other people sheeped it. | ||
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On November 26 2014 10:40 kushm4sta wrote: hmm oats i don't agree with your "other people" point, but it is quite townie of you to pick up that detail. I agree with his "other people" point, but I don't agree that it's quite townie of him to pick up on that detail considering I'm the only person he's talked about. | ||
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You're halfway there already, I agree with your meatpudding read. | ||
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One of us is dead. | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Oatsmaster I don't think oats plays like this as town. That's probably my final vote today. | ||
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##unvote ##vote dicksmash | ||
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On November 27 2014 01:41 Trfel wrote: I'm not looking for a strong read from him, I'm looking for any kind of sensible read. His activity is why his lack of a reasonable read is even more of a red flag. I still feel like the Oatsmaster scumread is really weak, and I've stated this multiple times. Batsnacks even moved his vote off of Oatsmaster and then moved it back without explanation, which I feel gives even less support to his accusation. I don't feel that batsnacks has been promoting discussion, since he hasn't really been adding any discussion himself. I've given more reads than you. | ||
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On November 27 2014 01:48 Trfel wrote: By my count, you've given zero reads. I've explained why your Oatsmaster read is terrible, do I need to quote myself here? Meanwhile I've given one read. I also have several town leans, but I haven't felt the need to share those yet. I can do so if you would like, though. Anyway, batsnacks, I REALLY want to know why you keep changing your vote between Oatsmaster and Dicksmash without explanation. This seems extremely fishy to me. What's fishy about it? Why does changing my vote make me mafia? | ||
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##vote Trfel Look, I changed my vote again. It's really easy. | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:43 Damdred wrote: I could actually go for a half the sky lynch tomorrow after reading his reasons for voting What about slam? | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:55 sicklucker wrote: He said he was packing his bags to go on vacation lol. Did anyone ask him to take pictures of bags? lol | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:09 Oatsmaster wrote: sick delurk bro <3 xoxo | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:23 Oatsmaster wrote: I can visit your grave once in a while if my dog needs a piss. You wound me. | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:25 LightningStrike wrote: After reading what everyone said from Oats would rather visit bats grave when his dog needs to take a piss to discussion on who to lynch tomorrow I think our best options is either Damndred or Bats. Bats because he keep changing his votes without a explanation which can be scummy or just bats trolling us like he did early on in the last game I played with him. Damndred because he help start the lynch actively without a good reason and had a baseless defense on his vote. Who else thinks me and damdred are mafia together? I think this will be a good metric for how fucked we are. | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:33 Oatsmaster wrote: bats please can you do things other than making jokes. Damdred's completely unreasonable town read on you is slowly changing my mind though. I don't think it was unreasonable. There was no reason to vote me before I afked at eod. If you want reads on someone or something specific I'll be happy to accommodate. | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:40 sicklucker wrote: My meta read on dandred. Only way hes mafia is if its with bats. He would not bother making his own case there if it was two towns up for vote. So by going after bats if thats still a thing we could clear him by association. Yeah, no. | ||
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Just pretend he's saying, "I'M TOWN!" "I'M TOWN!" And pretend he's right. | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:51 meatpudding wrote: bats what do you think of kush right now? I haven't really agreed with his reads yet or seen anything from him to put him in my town pile. But you seemed to switch to a town read on him fairly easily. How do you feel after the flip? I think kush is town. Even if you don't think he's town he shouldn't be considered for the lynch tomorrow. This requires operating under the assumption I'm town, but mafia kush wouldn't move a lynch off of me and onto dick, because mafia kush would know we're both town and it wouldn't matter to him which one of us got lynched. If anything I think mafia kush would have been happier to lynch me because I was posting more. | ||
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On November 27 2014 13:05 sicklucker wrote: I like this alot. Altho I think mafia kush would bus you;p I'm positive mafia kush would bus me, If I were mafia with mafia kush. | ||
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On November 27 2014 13:08 sicklucker wrote: This game is so easy if we know bats alignment. Try to be active budday That post you liked about kush also applies to damdred, you know. | ||
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It means I love you and you should town read me so we can actually win this game. | ||
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On November 27 2014 13:11 sicklucker wrote: but didnt you just say to ignore everything i say you jerk =[ That's because me/damdred and me/kush as scum don't make sense. | ||
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On November 27 2014 14:55 Breshke wrote: MM he has been focused on bats a fair bit but mentions reads on other people every know and then but everything seems to come back to bats for him. I agree with him on bats though and see why he is pushing it and like that he kept pushing it even though no one was really jumping on. I don't like that he wasn't around at EoD because if he has a strong mafia read id think he would try make himself be so he can push his read. This can probably be attributed to time zones though. So i think he is lleaning town this could be biased because he is also reading bats scum but I am happy to see him as town for now. The fact that im reading him as town and also reading trefel as town reinforces my feeling that bats is mafia because him and meatpudding were the only ones to not have their votes on Dicksmash at EoD and i think that while possible it is unlikely all three mafia stacked on him. You're scum reading me because I didn't vote dicksmash? | ||
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On November 27 2014 15:47 Breshke wrote: Yeah I believe you makes sense. Do you think anything slam has done this game is alignment indicative? I've never played with mafia slam but I think he's a good vote if his day 2 looks like his day 1. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:16 rsoultin wrote: Mmmmm...that could just be cause he's new, the big posts. Picking you to look into and build a case against isn't completely out to lunch with your insta-vote, though you removed it when kush decided to participate, didn't you? Damdred seems more scummy to me than you do at the moment. Not really reading Trfel as scum just because he built a case on you though. Trfel said he agreed with the kush pressure. On November 25 2014 12:46 Trfel wrote: If I had to take a guess right now, I would guess sicklucker and Half the Sky. But I feel like it's far too early for me to confidently make reads. As the vote gets closer, I will consider more strongly who to vote for. Until then, a no lynch or a policy lynch on an inactive (kushm4sta?) seems better than trying to take a guess if it still seems unclear. On November 25 2014 14:59 Trfel wrote: To be fair, kushm4sta, I would like some more from you. Batsnacks wants you to participate in the thread and share your thoughts, and that seems like a fair request. You obviously read batsnacks as scum. Any reasons we haven't mentioned yet? What about the rest of the people here? Then he said I was scummy for it: On November 26 2014 12:25 Trfel wrote: To reiterate: That's the problem post with the kushm4sta policy lynch for me. Yes, I'm glad that he forced kusmh4sta to the thread. However, we don't need to focus only on one afk player to bring them back into the game. We can still investigate the people here while pressuring kushm4sta to play, we don't need to sidetrack our discussions for a policy lynch. Make sure you compare bolded words. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:24 rsoultin wrote: True, that is contradictory, Batsnacks. I'd have to look back and see if you kept pushing kush after kush appeared to prompt that (because I honestly don't remember and context is important) but I see no problem voting someone to get them to participate. Breshke did the same thing. If you're fine with one person doing it, you should be fine with another. Or so it seems to me. I'll save you the trouble, I unvoted kush after he started posting and said I he was town. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:28 rsoultin wrote: Would you please answer my question about HTS though? If you're still reading him as scum, was it just the "TMI" in the one sentence? Or did you just mean to say that you understand why he might be seen as scum? And frankly I don't understand how the sentence was TMI, so if you could explain that I'd appreciate it. I'm really just trying to figure out why the big HTS push when I saw nothing alarm worthy in it. I might be missing something the rest of you aren't. I wasn't being completely serious in that post. TMI is too much information. On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote: because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy? Calling sicklucker a "good guy" might indicate that HTS knows sicklucker is town, which only mafia would know, therefor TMI. But again I feel strongly about it. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:33 rsoultin wrote: Hmm...looks like you unvoted him and voted Oats before Kush posted, actually. So your voting change wasn't really related to kush's actions at all. Correct me if I'm wrong. It doesn't really matter. The point is kush was a pressure vote until I found something better. I didn't tunnel kush the whole game, like Trfel is doing with me. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:44 Half the Sky wrote: Context please. That was a theoretical. That doesn't mean I know who anyone was. I would have had the same reaction regardless of who was voting who. When I said that, that simply means that IF (in that case) Breshke (who voted SL) WAS a bad guy, he is obviously voting someone down who was not mafia. I questioned his motive with that theoretical. No. You don't get any context because I said I wasn't serious about it and talking about it is stupid since I wasn't serious about it. | ||
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On November 28 2014 04:56 Trfel wrote: Would everyone like a shorter version? Batsnacks is mafia because he has shown an effort not to contribute to the search for the mafia. His scum reads are filled with holes and he fails to provide adequate support. His opinions also seem inconsistent. See what I mean? It took you like a thousand words to say that the first time. | ||
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On November 28 2014 05:06 Trfel wrote: Read my concluding statements to the "thousand word posts" you reference. I don't see what's wrong with giving evidence for my claims. A claim without evidence or reasoning is rather weak, isn't it? If people would prefer, I can try to change my posting format to leave only the main points in the normal post, and put all of the evidence, reasoning, and quotes in spoilers. However, I would think that most people would want to read the evidence for themselves anyway. A claim that's wrong is weak no matter how much "evidence" or "reasoning" you give. | ||
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On November 28 2014 05:12 rsoultin wrote: Now, bats. You saying that you're town isn't evidence that you're town lol. If it's weak you're going to have to give us better than that, at least for me to say yeah, makes sense. "rabble rabble" Pick something either oats or Trfel has said about why I'm scummy that you agree with. | ||
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On November 28 2014 05:27 sicklucker wrote: Hey bats who the hell is mafia if you aint. Not you Not LS Not Damdred Not Kush Not me oats is null even though I dislike his tunneling on me. I actually remember things he says. putin is null because I remember some of his posts and that's better than nothing. slam will go from scummy to super scummy if he doesn't post again tomorrow. Trfel's relentless tunnel is scummy. everyone else looks bad because I don't remember anything they've said. | ||
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On November 28 2014 05:44 rsoultin wrote: I was admittedly overwhelmed by the sheer amount of text when I first got on...I think we were on page 12 or something...and you and Oats going back and forth irritated me tbh lol. But going back through your filter, I'm not really seeing what everyone else seems to be seeing. You have given reads and explained yourself, if a bit tersely especially when you kept getting the same questions over and over. Your votes did make sense in the context of the thread. The biggest case against you seems to be what Trfel dug up in meta. I don't know you. Not really fond of meta reads. So I'm reading you as neutral right now. I will say, though, that no I don't think you and Damdred are a scum team. Just a bit too obvious when you were in each other's pockets (him more in yours than the other way around) from the start. I think it's entirely possible for mafia to go after someone who has posted very little thinking that they might have a role (not vanilla town), even if they knew you both were town, so I don't think it's worth voting you to find out if Damdred is scum. (And frankly don't understand voting someone other than who you think is scum to find out if they're scum. Maybe I'm just a noob but that seems counterintuitive to me.) Yeah I was irritated with me and oat's back and forth too that's why I started ignoring him. | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:11 Half the Sky wrote: Did we seriously just lose both power roles in the first 36h? (INSERT EXPLETIVES HERE.) Looks like the scum are running scared, and there's a reason for that. I just cannot believe how unlucky we have been though. Unbelievable. More filter diving to come... Fake | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:41 sicklucker wrote: I was also saying hypothetically If both bats and dandred are scum they would have to kill one of the guys pushing them hard. Wifmo my ass its the only play. Because you cant lose bats because then dandred would be voted out. Alot of people agreed with me that a bats damdred scum team makes sense. If they didnt them I sapose im wrong here So you think me and damdred are mafia. You think damdred's plan as mafia is to draw attention to the both of us by defending me. And you think our plan is to kill the people who are pushing us, because that somehow makes us less suspicious? That's actually what you think??? | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:49 sicklucker wrote: I never said I believe this. I just feel it makes sense to lynch you. and if you show up mafia then dandred. If you show up town we have a confirmed basically in my mind YES YOU DID. By believing me and damdred are mafia, that IS what you are saying you believe because that's what happened. | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:58 sicklucker wrote: See this is the thing about my town play people dont understand and often misread me. I like to theorize about possible situations as one bit of evidence to a conclusion. But when I post these theory's people go .OMG HES CRAZY HE BELIEVES WHAT HES WRITING. No im just throwing out ideas for discussion to help us solve the big picture. I dont expect people to blindly follow my logic but I do think I have good points. I explained to you why you don't have good points. You should get new ones. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:03 sicklucker wrote: You just pretty much confirmed his case against you with this post... Tell me what you're still stuck on and I'll unstuck you. | ||
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On November 28 2014 13:09 Breshke wrote: People trying to blame damdred saying he pushed dicksmash for no reason yet they still voted on dicksmash don't make sense. Damdred why do you think bats ignored my question to give a read on you and to explain the "we cant be scum together". Is it frustrating because they are dumb questions or something? I think it is relevant and could easily be answered if he had stuff to back up the shit he says. I'm sorry I keep ignoring you breshke but this isn't the first time I've answered these questions and it is frustrating answering the same questions over and over again when people aren't listening. I don't think damdred would stick his neck out for me like he has if we were both mafia. It doesn't make sense, if we're both mafia, to bring so much attention on ourselves. As for as my town read on damdred, think about day 1. I'm town. Scum damdred would know I'm town. Scum damdred would not go out of his way to defend me to move the vote to dicksmash. Scum damdred doesn't care which town dies, if town dies he's happy, so it doesn't make sense for him to defend one town to swing the votes to another town. Damdred gains nothing defending me if he is mafia. | ||
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On November 28 2014 13:42 sicklucker wrote: Ls you have way too many town reads. I think you know your not good enough to have that many this early. Lets focus on your best ones Which of his reads do you disagree with? | ||
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On November 28 2014 13:57 Breshke wrote: No I understand that you had probably answered these questions in pieces everywhere but it was half me being lazy and half me wanting to see you explain it properly. This is going to be paranoid but the fact that "two mafia wouldnt do this" is the exact reason two mafia would do it but i get what you are saying. Your townread on him also makes sense to me know from your pov. Who do you actually think is scummy bats? I'm voting slam because I think he's scummy. I've never played with slam as mafia, and I've never played a game where slam contributed this little. I expected at least a few more silly posts from him. meatpudding is also completely forgettable so him too. | ||
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On November 28 2014 14:05 sicklucker wrote: Its not that I disagree with any particular one its that its unlikely a new player has it all figured. I would like to see a few null reads. You have no issues with his reads, you just wish there were less of them? Who cares if they're wrong he's sharing what he thinks. More of that is better. And about half of those reads were borderline null. | ||
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On November 28 2014 14:12 sicklucker wrote: No his reads are bad too I just didnt feel like being mean hes trying so hard =[ So first you said you don't disagree with his reads. Now they're bad. They're like 1000x better than your reads. | ||
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On November 28 2014 14:07 Oatsmaster wrote: You are wrong about slam bats. He posts as both alignments. Just more useful as one. It's kinda like palmar. If he's afk, it doesn't mean shit. Your reasoning is bad. Why would you instantly think that a low post count slam is scum when you have never played waith a scum slam. We can't read him if he doesn't post. Slam is perfectly capable of convincing me he's town, or at the very least not the best lynch today. If he's not doing that (he isn't) I don't see any problem with voting him until he does. | ||
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On November 28 2014 16:13 Oatsmaster wrote: i told you what I thought about slam earlier. There was some shit day 1 that I didnt like about meat. Damn i gotta look but i did mention something day 1. And his absence kinda doesnt help. You did say repeatedly day 1 that you didn't like meat. You said you didn't like the content of his list post and some other stuff I think. Your reads are consistent and reasonable for the most part I'm not looking for holes or anything. I just want to know what you think about lynching meat vs lynching slam. | ||
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On November 28 2014 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote: way more for meat, his stuff has some thoughts meaning alignment indicative. None of slams stuff is alignment indicative. What do you think about rsoultin? I have never once thought this game that he is interested in finding scum. I like that rsoultin doesn't think I'm mafia but that's all really. In retrospect he only started not thinking I'm mafia after I called him out on something, so he could just be taking the path of least resistance, which would be scummy. | ||
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On November 28 2014 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote: can you be a bit more solid on your reads? All of your shit is like "eh maybe kinda looks like, maybe maybe maybe". I'm having a hard time reading people in this game. I can't tell the difference between who's confused, misguided, mafia, or afk. | ||
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On November 28 2014 16:02 kushm4sta wrote: top 3 lynch without filter diving: 2) Breshke (filter) 7) Meatpudding (filter) 11) alakaslam (filter) Two lurkers and the guy who claimed rb | ||
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So why is it bats, meant, kush and not bats, slam, kush? | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:14 batsnacks wrote: HTS you said meat has contributed slightly more than slam. So why is it bats, meat, kush and not bats, slam, kush? | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:26 Half the Sky wrote: Slam to me is pure policy - policy lurker means I cannot get a read on him. I am not in any way saying Slam is scum. Slam is null. I put priority on people with scumlike behaviour over people who are pure policy lynch. The content that Meat has posted and the manner in which he did not is not fully supported. If you look at the long post he did when giving reads some of it is on shaky ground. Who's the last mafia? I already know about you and slam. | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:38 rsoultin wrote: Come to think of it... @Bats, I'm not seeing your top three scum for lynch. Did I miss that or are you just not playing ball? I didn't post them yet so your balls are doing fine. | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:55 kushm4sta wrote: bats help me figure out which of these sneaky tryhard sonnabitches are scum... is it htf or something? I think it's HTF. I never believe his reasons for things I think he writes them just to write them. It's not like SL where there is a logical, if wrong, train of though that I can follow easily. And I feel like mafia is voting me right now because it's a good opportunity to look productive. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:10 sicklucker wrote: I already was the one who pushed obis meat train. I said if we were to policy lynch one of them it has to be meat because at least slam has a chance to contribute. This guys been useless. Hes #2 on my manditory 3 person lynch. Im laying off pushing rsoultin now. Im also taking LS out of my town circle. Like Ls was not this passive last game and afraid to vote anyone he got himself lynched for voting too much. I get that he could be scared tho. Do you think it's weird that everyone wants to vote meat and no one wants to vote slam? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:26 rsoultin wrote: Bats, your three please. I think that's weird. You didn't take indirect, so I'll ask you directly now. slam hts ??? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:34 rsoultin wrote: Fair enough, thanks. You've already explained HTS as I recall and slam is an obvious policy lynch. So you just don't have many scum reads I guess? I'm the only person that wants to lynch slam at the moment so I wouldn't say it's obvious. And I'm leaning town on everyone except meat, slam, and HTS. breshke would look bad if he didn't claim rb but that alone is enough not to vote him today. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:44 sicklucker wrote: At some point he claims me and dandred have really weird interaction and suspects us of being in a scum team (lol) Then he doesint remember that the reason dandred layed off me is because I didnt ever give breske a scum read. He also says he thinks im scum because I think breskes scum. If he was so sure of mine and dandreds interactions but misses a huge part of it. That is why I said I found holes in his story. Then he has really bad reasons for voting me and he casts the useless vote that ive said is usually mafia if both horses are town. This is my reason for scum reading him anyway. I can follow that. What do you think about HTS? What do you think his most memorable post has been? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:52 sicklucker wrote: No meat? really I find this really suspicious. Is this a two mafia vote? I dont see how anyone can logically want slam out over meat. I didn't want to put 2 afk people in that list. I think meat is scummy and I think he's a great lynch. I like voting slam better right now though because everyone seems to think meat is a great lynch. What do you think about HTS? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:56 rsoultin wrote: Have to agree with SL, lightning. Your timidity has me wondering if you do have a role. Since it's obviously not a town one... You lose nothing participating if you're town. So what gives? SL is almost certainly town imo | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:55 sicklucker wrote: Like I might be reading hts for the wrong reasons. Hes probably the player I need to most reread since im town tunneling him and barely reading his posts. I dont think hes a lynch for today ever tho. So what do you think about HTS? | ||
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On November 30 2014 04:42 LightningStrike wrote: Why you say HTS is definitely mafia? Explain please. On November 29 2014 03:02 batsnacks wrote: I think it's HTF. I never believe his reasons for things I think he writes them just to write them. It's not like SL where there is a logical, if wrong, train of though that I can follow easily. And I feel like mafia is voting me right now because it's a good opportunity to look productive. Plus the way he voted kush is really scummy. I don't think kush looks great d2 but if I were to vote kush the reasons I would give would look nothing like the reasons HTS is giving. If I'm voting kush all I would say is "he isn't posting enough." | ||
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On November 30 2014 04:47 rsoultin wrote: Not HTS, lol. I'm not going to consolidate just for the sake of consolidating right now. Some haven't been online. Kush and Hope are supposedly still reading. We have over 24 hours before EoD. If people want to make their case for why they're voting for who, I'm down for that. eod is in 2 hours | ||
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On November 30 2014 05:28 rsoultin wrote: Just feels too easy. The case against him is minimal. Everyone is way too willing to jump on it. HTS isn't a huge town read for me, if at all, but at the same time it seems weird that so many people would be eager to push him based off so little. And eh, bugger, you're right about the time. I was reading the time the mod said was left but it obviously wasn't updated. I really, truly believe lightningstrike is the best lynch here, but if I have to go with one of the two pushes we have moving now (kush or hts) I'm going for kush. The case against kush is weaker imo | ||
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On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote: - first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs- - asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post - tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke - changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted - gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post) - jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks - calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred) - says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats - says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town - repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?) Less than half of these are alignment indicative, and that's being generous. | ||
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On November 30 2014 05:46 Damdred wrote: The way rsoultin is going about this and hammering Kush like he did really feels scummy to me Yeah | ||
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- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs- Not scummy. Voting someone who is trying to policy lynch you is a pretty reasonable response... you seem to think so too. - asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post Asking a question isn't scummy. Neither is not reading the thread. Either alignment can ask questions, either alignment can miss something in the thread. - tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke It was scummy. omgusing is usually scummy. - changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted Kush changing votes is not scummy, especially if he gives reasons when asked. Giving reasons when asked is actually townie. - gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post) Arguing for who you think is town is not scummy. - jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks Kush gave those reasons BEFORE damdred's train. - calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred) Not providing reasons for reads is bad. - says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats So what? You're just paraphrasing what happened. This isn't a reason. - says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town Kush voted me because I was policy voting him. I unvoted kush, which is why kush voted me. Therefore kush no longer has a reason to vote me. This is a perfectly logical procession of events. - repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?) Yeah this is scummy. | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:02 rsoultin wrote: For clarification, bats, that actually wasn't a list of scummy behavior. That was me going back through his filter to find what little content was in it. My main issue with kush is that he has so little content, and he was claiming he wouldn't be playing for the rest of the day. bolded: bullshit If that wasn't a list of scummy behavior then you literally had no reason to vote kush before you did. Now you're voting him because he's lurking d2? What about meatpudding who lurked d1 AND d2? | ||
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Even if that wasn't intended to be a list of scummy behavior. Paraphrasing large sections of the game for no reason is extremely scummy. | ||
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I posted this: On November 30 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote: Less than half of these are alignment indicative, and that's being generous. You responded with this: On November 30 2014 05:46 rsoultin wrote: You may be right bats. -shrugs- But as usual you're not backing up your claims so, okay? Then I destroyed your post: On November 30 2014 05:58 batsnacks wrote: Okay Not scummy. Voting someone who is trying to policy lynch you is a pretty reasonable response... you seem to think so too. Asking a question isn't scummy. Neither is not reading the thread. Either alignment can ask questions, either alignment can miss something in the thread. It was scummy. omgusing is usually scummy. Kush changing votes is not scummy, especially if he gives reasons when asked. Giving reasons when asked is actually townie. Arguing for who you think is town is not scummy. Kush gave those reasons BEFORE damdred's train. Not providing reasons for reads is bad. So what? You're just paraphrasing what happened. This isn't a reason. Kush voted me because I was policy voting him. I unvoted kush, which is why kush voted me. Therefore kush no longer has a reason to vote me. This is a perfectly logical procession of events. Yeah this is scummy. Then you changed your mind: On November 30 2014 06:02 rsoultin wrote: For clarification, bats, that actually wasn't a list of scummy behavior. That was me going back through his filter to find what little content was in it. My main issue with kush is that he has so little content, and he was claiming he wouldn't be playing for the rest of the day. You ABSOLUTELY intended for that to be a list of scummy behavior. | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:15 Half the Sky wrote: Hopeless, question, operative words in bold. I think Kush has played some here prior to the middle of D2, but others are calling him out that he's not playing enough. Define what you mean as "almost literally doesn't play as scum". As in just AFK to the point of being a policy lynch? HTS you should vote rsoultin if only as a means of self preservation because if we can't lynch him we're probably going to switch back to you. | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:16 Hopeless1der wrote: hmm...last end of day was pretty sparse on active players. This may not work. Give it 30 minutes at least then we can pull out. | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:18 Damdred wrote: Kush still might die anyway from modkill theres that to lol There's plenty of replacements. Coaches can always step in. | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:21 rsoultin wrote: Lol, thank you for telling me my own intentions. I'm certain that you're the expert and all. Before I posted that list. Note the bolded portion or ignore it, if you prefer. And you conveniently left out the context for the list... Now, y'all can waste a lynch on me if that's what you want, but don't tell me what my intentions were while editing parts of my posts out xP I will call you on that. So is that post about why kush is scum or not because you've contradicted yourself 3 times in the last 3 posts? | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:38 rsoultin wrote: Bats, gonna dropkick you again. The post that you edited parts out of is about kush being scum. The list that you chose to quote without the rest of the post was what content I could glean out of the 3 pages of posts in his filter at the time of the post. On November 30 2014 06:02 rsoultin wrote: For clarification, bats, that actually wasn't a list of scummy behavior. That was me going back through his filter to find what little content was in it. My main issue with kush is that he has so little content, and he was claiming he wouldn't be playing for the rest of the day. | ||
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If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch. Nvm we're okay. | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:52 Hopeless1der wrote: pretty sure kush is lynched at this point unless we all do in fact switch to someone but I dont want to lynch HTS if I can avoid it. It's 4-4 and rsoultin was more recent. | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:55 Hopeless1der wrote: most recently had more votes the more votes clause puts the lynch on kush. I think we're right, we need to switch. Switch? | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:10 Half the Sky wrote: Why would Kush get modelled? He's been active. He didn't vote. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:10 Half the Sky wrote: Why would Kush get modelled? He's been active. Why wouldn't you vote rsoultin to save yourself? Are you more confident in rsoultin's alignment then you are your own? Doesn't make sense. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:30 sicklucker wrote: So lets just talk were wasting alot of time. This is usually when I can participate the most its a weekend. I wanna hear from the guys who made a horrible lynch and why. You'll regret posting that if someone flips town | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:20 Damdred wrote: Bats out of the vets who would be the scum i'd hate to think all the newer players go scum Oats | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:49 batsnacks wrote: TMI @rsoultin | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:54 sicklucker wrote: Breske rsoultin hts is a world. Rsoultin just said HTS was vanilla town. | ||
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On November 29 2014 22:18 Half the Sky wrote: Neither individual is helping the town agenda (both have promoted policy votes over scum votes for example). Looking at both Bats and Kush (as my current vote is on Bats) and using the above as a checklist for Kush: #1 - Check. I had pointed out the D1 argument on page 51, but why does Kush expect any of us to think that D1 makes him a townie? Reads with the exception of the one Kush did on his phone have been weak/unsupported. Bats' voting D1 was a problem, but the gap between voting Damdred and then jumping to DSMI is even worse given the arguments he used to try and sell that vote. He pushed that vote well before Damdred did. #2 - Check. Bats has dodged questions from three people this game (Oats, Breshke, myself). Kush isn't saying much of anything to begin with, but he dodged Oats on the Damdred read. #3 - Check. Kush is way more sporadic than Bats, Thanksgiving is forgiveable, but afterwards, even Bats hasn't afked. #4 - Check. At least I remember Bats for being overly defensive. Kush's filter on the other hand, I have had to filter dive three times in the last 12 hours. I'd say he's topped Bats in the scum category. ##unvote ##vote kushm4sta On November 27 2014 03:05 Half the Sky wrote: LS, check page 1. DSMI is not in the noob category. You were last game and this game. You cannot compare the two situations. Kush, I went through his filter again, and now your arguments are making a lot more sense. I checked the filter against the sequence of his reads/explanations versus others for the same individuals and there is a lot of bandwagoning. Too much for his own good this late in the day. I'm still not feeling too good about Batsnacks though, ignoring any meta. I would be lying if I said otherwise. ##Unvote ##Vote Dicksmash McIroncock | ||
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On December 01 2014 06:31 Half the Sky wrote: My three (no particular order) Meat, Oats, LightningStrike Seems like we agree on Meat and Oats. Just pick either one of those two and go with it. N2 death will also reveal more. Also Bats, just because someone is vanilla does not mean they are going to be correct, especially not being a power role. I'm fully aware I am massively failing this game. Damdred, I get your point on Breshke, but how probable is it actually? I guess you're saying that because he did nothing at EoD. I think you're doing good. Breshke also kept his vote on me d1 because "he wanted to help someone [dicksmash] who wouldn't help themselves" or something to that effect, I don't remember the exact quote. So that and the rb claim are kind of weird things mafia could use to gain town credit. I agree with damdred don't sleep on breshke. | ||
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On November 30 2014 07:02 Half the Sky wrote: Well GGs, frustrating, but that's that. I refused to switch because I believed he was town, I'm going to be revealed as town shortly, but some of you really shot yourselves in the foot. | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:31 sicklucker wrote: Did you tho? All I saw was you sheeping bats. This is very scummy Damdred and hopeless were sheeping me too, in his defense. | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:58 rsoultin wrote: Damdred was town. Doesn't make him infallible. If you have a case, make it @bats Dodging questions and not backing up your statements looks scummy, even taking out what I personally think of your play. Continually trying to hide behind your association with Damdred instead of building any credibility of your own through reads and trying to figure out the game also strikes me as scummy. Why is LS a bad lynch if he's mafia? Why did you say that? If you think I'm scummy you should vote me. But you won't because then your scum buddy meat will get lynched. | ||
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On December 03 2014 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: Digging for more...and imagining a world where Bats is scum...if anything you think is off, let me know. Onwards... It would be a weird world where I'm scum because that would mean my scum buddy lightning sheeped everything I said, verbatim, out in the open. Maybe not unprecedented but I think that would be weird. GJ town btw, though I think we were probably hitting mafia either way. | ||
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On December 03 2014 08:41 Breshke wrote: Bats got any updated reads? You bet I do. | ||
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On December 03 2014 09:01 Oatsmaster wrote: oh yeahhhhhhhh. Ok hopeless dies. Then bats dies and we WIN!!! As long as we do it in this order. | ||
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On December 03 2014 20:41 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont have to think hes townie, the scumteam/ LightningStrike has to think that. And regardless, there is absolutely no way scumbats says "sheep me and say you are sheeping me in thread" to his buddy lightning strike. No way. Im not saying this makes bats town. Im saying that there is no argument you can make connecting Lightning Strike and Bats because Lightning strike sheeped Bats. I think that is what you're saying oats. | ||
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On December 03 2014 23:34 rsoultin wrote: Not meat anymore bats? What changed your mind? Meat is fine too I just think hopeless is better. | ||
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On December 03 2014 23:39 rsoultin wrote: Why? Pretty much what oats said. Lynching meat is cool too though because knowing his alignment pretty much solves the game. If meat is scum, we hit scum, which is awesome. If meat is town, it means scum voted meat yesterday. | ||
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The point is who cares if hopeless has excuses? RL excuses are scummy. There's no reason to mention them because they can't be proven. | ||
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On December 04 2014 00:23 Half the Sky wrote: Bats, other than Hopeless, who is your other read for scum? It sort of depends on meats alignment, but I think hopeless is scum either way. | ||
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On December 04 2014 00:51 sicklucker wrote: Were already pretty sure scum voted meat because the whole logic of voting ls was because you and Ls snap voted him. At the very least we know one and most of my town reads voted ls I'm not sure that scum voted meat so speak for yourself. | ||
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I'd wager 1 of them did, yeah. | ||
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On December 04 2014 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote: If meat is scum it is useless yeah. if meat is town its still pretty useless, only town really changed. Basically breshke. If meat is town aren't both scum voting him? Maybe not 100% but isn't that more likely? I would like to think that I made it easy to vote meat if someone wanted to. | ||
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On December 04 2014 01:29 rsoultin wrote: I agree with this statement. I would think it odd for you and hopeless both to be mafia, though I think I've said that before. So do you have any reads other than a lurker hopeless and a maybe but probably not meat? I have lots of reads. "maybe but probably not" is not an accurate way to paraphrase what I said about meat. | ||
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On December 04 2014 01:39 rsoultin wrote: Okay. You said you agreed with Oats on meat, and didn't Oats say that he didn't think it was meat? I said I agreed with oats on hopeless. | ||
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On December 04 2014 01:48 rsoultin wrote: Okay, fair enough. So you think meat and hopeless are scum then, but think hopeless is the better lynch because you agree with what oats said about hopeless lurking? Yes. I'd maybe add that regardless of what I think hopeless is objectively the best lynch. | ||
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On December 04 2014 04:02 Half the Sky wrote: EBWOP - The easiest way to support Hopeless as scum when he lurks, if he lurks regularly would be to link to a filter from a previous game where he drew scum. Hopeless has played a lot of games on this site. Would 1 game where he lurked as scum really be what it takes to convince you? | ||
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On December 04 2014 06:33 rsoultin wrote: Lol, SL. That is definitely concise. xP My version of concise. LS resisted voting when you were leading the lynch votes. LS stated you were scum, then suddenly started sheeping you with no explanation other than you "made sense". Your editing portions out of my posts then claiming that I was contradicting myself during EoD2. Threatening HTS with lynching if he didn't switch his votes. Declaring him townie then switching your stance to possibly mafia after I pointed out that HTS and I logically were the same alignment. Calling out Damdred's death before he died. Your general refusal to answer questions clarifying your stances on things. Example: Why LS is a bad lynch even if he's mafia. Trolling and insults rather than expressing alternative views. Your general absence yesterday. (You have been increasingly absent throughout the game.) The way the game has gone decreasing likely scum to you, Hopeless, meat and Oats. Every one of these can probably be explained, but the aggregate comes out very scummy. Only like 1 of those things is actually scummy, the rest is stuff you don't understand/don't like. | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:08 Half the Sky wrote: Rasputin, give me a shout if you want me to change my vote. ##vote batsnacks This is the second time you've been more confident in rsoul alignment than your own? 0_o | ||
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I thought oats would die. Here's what's going on: meat is scummy If meat is scum (I think he is) then oats might be mafia If meat is town (I don't think he is) then oats isn't mafia So by voting meat I get to vote 1. who I think is scummy and 2. someone who's alignment would be helpful in solving the game. As opposed to hopeless who is just 1. scummy. 2 is better than 1 is the point I'm trying to make | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:22 rsoultin wrote: Oh, my bad. You're so right. I'll just vote hopeless now, lol. ##vote Batsnacks I'm glad we agree but why are you voting me then? | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:33 rsoultin wrote: Your defense was just that I don't understand you. Since I still don't understand you, I'm not sure why you're surprised lol @bats. Meat and Oats, huh? Okay. You know what I find scummy about that? The most likely person to be scum with Meat is probably me. I mean, I'm the one who derailed that lynch and moved it to LS, who was the biggest anti-meat proponent from Day 2. If I can see that why hasn't it been brought up? Do you just think you can't get me lynched? On December 04 2014 01:07 batsnacks wrote: I mean unless I'm missing something if meat is scum then vote analysis of yesterday is not that useful. | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:37 Breshke wrote: So why if oats is mafia do you think meat might be? Are you saying if oats is town you are going to clear everyone who voted LS? from what i have gathered from your POV you seem to think hopeless is scum no matter what anyone flips so why not just lunch him first to confirm that and get a better picture of what is going on this game. What I'm saying is that if meat is scum then we were lynching between scum yesterday. And, in your own words, since I seem to think hopeless is scum no matter what anyone flips, then lynching hopeless isn't going to tell me anything except hopeless's alignment. | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:41 rsoultin wrote: More seriously, bats, I don't actually want to mislynch you and I know I'm biased, so would you please explain why you think meat and oats are in cahoots? I DON'T But if meat is town then I -KNOW- they aren't. | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:44 rsoultin wrote: You know that meat and oats aren't scum. But how does that clear oats of being scum entirely? I guess is the question I should have asked. If meat is town then oats had a choice to either a) vote town (meat) b) vote mafia (lightning) If meat is mafia then oats had a choice to either a) vote mafia (meat) b) vote mafia (lightning) | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:47 rsoultin wrote: Which assumes that no scum is bussing. Which by default means that if meat flips town we should assume you and hopeless are scum? It was easy to vote meat. Oats said so himself: On December 03 2014 12:07 Oatsmaster wrote: How have I been "go with the flow"? If i was scum, I can make a sickass case on meat and he wouldve been lynched way earlier. Also why defend kush? Think a bit please rsoultin. | ||
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On December 04 2014 08:01 rsoultin wrote: How is meat more safe for town to vote than hopeless? Good question. Better question is how I'm a safer vote for town that either of them? | ||
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On December 04 2014 08:09 rsoultin wrote: Well, I've made no bones about believing that meat is town. You flip town, I'd push for hopeless, our lurker. I'm pretty sure it's one of you. Now please answer my question. I seriously don't know though. I'm a post before you think kind of person I'm just working stuff out. If you, and whoever else is town, learn anything from this game though, try to learn that lynching the person with the biggest thread presence over the person with the smallest thread presence is always bad. I would estimate about half of the content in this game is about me in one way or another. | ||
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On December 04 2014 08:41 rsoultin wrote: Got links? I've already made it well-known that I don't trust meta, but I am willing to look to avoid lylo. Most recent mafia game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469267-fantasy-football-mafia-mini-2?user=batsnacks I had zero thread presence, people knew immediately, and I got lynched n1. | ||
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On October 24 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote: I've been shaping up since we last played That's pretty funny in retrospect. | ||
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On December 04 2014 08:47 rsoultin wrote: Ty...I'm not sure where to find these on the site. If you (or anyone else) would be willing to link me to the database with the games you've participated in that would be great. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database | ||
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On December 04 2014 09:52 rsoultin wrote: Ah. Lol. Okay. Yeah, see my thought process is hopeless and bats probably aren't mafia together, so I was going with my stronger scum read. Also...I have a sneaking suspicion about oats that I'd like to investigate. Bats flips scum we've got wiggle room. If not it almost clears oats for me...because its oats' almost ignoring bats as possible scum that makes me itch about him. That and definitive statements he's always making. Maybe Oats is always that sure of himself though. oats. thinks. I'm. mafia. You didn't read any of my games, did you? | ||
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On December 04 2014 11:49 rsoultin wrote: Again, should probably just read the night posts. You'll see who SL was pushing and why. My problem with hopeless is he's basically a policy lynch, which at this point in the game I feel is insufficient unless you genuinely think all the rest of us are town. You could always vote meat | ||
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On December 04 2014 11:55 rsoultin wrote: I'm not reading meat as scum, Bats. You already know this. You do know his filter is 1/3rd as long as yours, right? | ||
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On December 04 2014 22:38 meatpudding wrote: I don't think we need to plan more than one day ahead here. So if you're going to vote for who you think is scum why risk waiting for another day. Like if you vote for your second guess and you're wrong, then you still have 2 left and they can vote against you. Like bats is a town read for me I think this push is silly, but even if I have to reconsider there is still another scum and we lynch him today. Digging up old LS posts isn't proving anything and to me it smells of a desperate argument to try to make something happen with 'proof' and I don't follow it. It would help if bats was around, because I"ll admit that his latest posts have been very null and I'm going off my earlier reads. Look at meat setting himself up to retract his town read on me. This is mafia vote him. | ||
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rs wants me to be scum so badly he's creating conspiracy theories about me and oats. | ||
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On December 05 2014 01:11 rsoultin wrote: The fact that both of you are very active in the thread and people seem so willing to lynch people based on vote count for god knows what awful reason, makes me worry that if you both are part of the scum team you'll easily continue to sway people. At least with hopeless he's unlikely to fool anyone if he's scum lol. Can't convince people to make the wrong choice if you're not here. And until bats flips I'm going to suspect him, plain and simple. He's been screaming scum to me for days. I could be wrong...of course I could. But just knowing his alignment would make me feel more comfortable going into tomorrow -_- Like look at this. He wants to keep hopeless alive because hopeless is lurking and therefore less threatening??? What is that logic? | ||
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Scum does. Do you know who is threatened by people who are capable of swaying others? Scum is. | ||
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Scum You know who doesn't like to re-evaluate the game? Scum You know who asks for evidence, ignores it, and then pretends it doesn't exist? Scum | ||
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On December 05 2014 01:51 rsoultin wrote: Mhm. And I'm working with meat and we will gets you aaaallll. This lurker argument has served us so well in the past, after all. Claiming mafia even jokingly is a bad idea ##unvote ##vote: resoultin | ||
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On December 05 2014 02:23 rsoultin wrote: Dunnae, honestly, but with all my question marks voting for him I wouldn't be surprised. Me being stubborn as shit is nothing new, so you suddenly reading me as scum for that is laughable xP You literally just said me and hopeless are your scum reads. Now hopeless is a likely mislynch? | ||
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On December 05 2014 02:30 rsoultin wrote: Not sure what you're so worried about anyway, bats. If you're so concerned hopeless is scum, and oats, breshke and meat agree, you're safe. Even if hopeless does come along and votes you later. And if he doesn't, I'm not going to keep my vote on you as it is lol. Unless of course you now think I'm more likely to be scum than either hopeless or meat? If you sell that one, kudos to you. Nice dodge. You're sinking deeper. | ||
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Yet you want to lynch the most active of us two first??? No one is dense enough to believe what you're claiming you believe. | ||
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I mean there are bushmen in Africa that believe they're alone in the world. They're wrong. There are billions of people in the world. The difference is those bushman aren't potentially messing up a game I'm playing with their ignorance. You are. | ||
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On December 06 2014 06:34 Breshke wrote: Opinions on hopeless bats? What is my opinion supposed to be? Of course he voted me he does that as either alignment. Literally everything he said he would say as mafia or town. | ||
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On December 06 2014 06:40 Breshke wrote: LS filter is 4 pages long and you were happy to give him a pass That was on d2??? and LS has more trouble with English in general that meat, no offense to LS. | ||
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On December 06 2014 06:48 Breshke wrote: Ok so why is meat voting hopeless I'm not sure, I don't remember why he is if he did explain. Which is a bad sign. | ||
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On December 06 2014 06:56 Hopeless1der wrote: you me bats hts? ##unvote batsnacks ##vote meatpudding I'm not doing this with 3 minutes left. | ||
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On December 12 2014 07:41 Breshke wrote: gg town sorry about the attempted shenanigans around the bats lynch that was mostly my fault sorry bats Also think it is hardly fair to nominate bats for a blooper or whatever when even if his vote got himself killed he still voted mafia. In my defense it was your fault. I thought I was getting lynched when you switched so I just said fuck it and switched too. | ||
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