EPTOn December 04 2014 00:55 batsnacks wrote:
I'm not sure that scum voted meat so speak for yourself.
I'm not sure that scum voted meat so speak for yourself.
Scum did vote for meat.
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Oatsmaster
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Scum did vote for meat. | ||
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batsnacks
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I'd wager 1 of them did, yeah. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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if meat is town its still pretty useless, only town really changed. Basically breshke. | ||
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batsnacks
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On December 04 2014 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote: If meat is scum it is useless yeah. if meat is town its still pretty useless, only town really changed. Basically breshke. If meat is town aren't both scum voting him? Maybe not 100% but isn't that more likely? I would like to think that I made it easy to vote meat if someone wanted to. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Lol but it doesnt directly tell me "xx is scum cause he tried to hammer meat but failed". | ||
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rsoultin
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On December 04 2014 00:22 batsnacks wrote: I'm not really worried about being lynched tbf. If I get lynched before hopeless it won't be because of mistakes I made. And once hopeless flips mafia I think you'll have an easier time believing I'm town. I agree with this statement. I would think it odd for you and hopeless both to be mafia, though I think I've said that before. So do you have any reads other than a lurker hopeless and a maybe but probably not meat? | ||
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batsnacks
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On December 04 2014 01:29 rsoultin wrote: I agree with this statement. I would think it odd for you and hopeless both to be mafia, though I think I've said that before. So do you have any reads other than a lurker hopeless and a maybe but probably not meat? I have lots of reads. "maybe but probably not" is not an accurate way to paraphrase what I said about meat. | ||
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rsoultin
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On December 04 2014 01:13 batsnacks wrote: If meat is town aren't both scum voting him? Maybe not 100% but isn't that more likely? I would like to think that I made it easy to vote meat if someone wanted to. And normally I'd agree with this, except I'm almost 100% certain of HTS. If he's not town he did a good job fooling the rest of us lol or at the very least a good job fooling me. That leaves you and hopeless, which I already said is possible...but unlikely. It seems more likely that we have a mafia on LS and a mafia on meat. That was what led me to oats in the first place, not because he's been particularly scummy, imo, but because he's not a town read for me yet and he should be by now. Only other option I see is breshke because of the late change, but he had every opportunity of shifting the vote back and didn't, and he was taking the lead on the scum search the entire day with his probing. If either HTS or Breshke are scum, they've played really well, because I don't suspect them at all, and this late in the game it's pretty easy to find reasons to suspect people I would think. | ||
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rsoultin
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On December 04 2014 01:33 batsnacks wrote: I have lots of reads. "maybe but probably not" is not an accurate way to paraphrase what I said about meat. Okay. You said you agreed with Oats on meat, and didn't Oats say that he didn't think it was meat? | ||
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batsnacks
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On December 04 2014 01:39 rsoultin wrote: Okay. You said you agreed with Oats on meat, and didn't Oats say that he didn't think it was meat? I said I agreed with oats on hopeless. | ||
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rsoultin
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So you think meat and hopeless are scum then, but think hopeless is the better lynch because you agree with what oats said about hopeless lurking? | ||
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batsnacks
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On December 04 2014 01:48 rsoultin wrote: Okay, fair enough. So you think meat and hopeless are scum then, but think hopeless is the better lynch because you agree with what oats said about hopeless lurking? Yes. I'd maybe add that regardless of what I think hopeless is objectively the best lynch. | ||
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batsnacks
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rsoultin
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I mean, I can see a world with meat being bussed right out the starting gate, and hopeless not taking advantage of bussing ls for the cred simply because he is AFK. I can see that being a thing. But ls, meat and hopeless as scum...all AFK/lurkers? It's possible, I suppose, just seems only slightly more likely than both you and hopeless being scum. I could get the AFK/lurkiness while town is squabbling, but with two scum up for lynch you'd think someone would do something to save their team. | ||
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batsnacks
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rsoultin
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That's the weird part for me. I know it's harder to hide when 1 out of every 3 players is scum, but there was so much confusion and finger-pointing at the end of Day 2 that I don't understand why a buss attempt at all. Can argue that hopeless saw the train and jumped on, thinking it inevitable. Or that so many agreeing on a meat lynch before the day started convinced them. But take me. People weren't feeling good about me at all and I still was able to make a case for LS that people listened to. There's nothing inevitable when you have six townies who are more or less uncertain of most of the other townies, right? Regardless, policy lynching over a scum read seems like a good way to get burned. | ||
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Half the Sky
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On December 04 2014 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote: none of you have strung 5 posts together about how bats is scum, and you post this? Baffles me man. Absolutely. We've hit on all the points plenty. RTFT, more specifically page 88, Rasputin's reads, and go to Bats at the bottom of his post. Of course, that's easy for you to ignore, just as easy as it is to say you confused me for LS when you pushed the vote away on me D2. I sense a pattern here. On December 04 2014 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Also lurking one lynch before lylo is fucking scummy and IRL reasons are not real reasons. Context - He was lurking before LYLO one and he's still lurking. On December 04 2014 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote: In fact, the fact that you even think about trying justify your absence is scummy. IRL reasons or any other activity excuse are not valid in this game. Do not use those as a reason to not lynch people. WIFOM at best. People can be uninterested because they are a scum trying to hide or a townie who is lazy and doesn't want to put in the work to find scum. Both have happened, both are possible. Either way, unhelpful for the town, and if there was a vigilante in this game, the conventional meta is to take out lurkers regardless of perceived alignment, but that's not the case in this game. Hope is policy all the way. It was said multiple times by people D1 and it's true now - policy vote only when there are no other options for scum. Therefore, a justification for Bats being town is actually in order if you truly believe he shouldn't go. | ||
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