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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 19:31:00
November 06 2014 19:30 GMT
#1081
Vote Count

Immaterial (2): Serejai, sicklucker
KelsierSC (1): Batsnacks
Serejai (1): Elvis!
Kushm4sta (1): Breshke

Not Voting (6): KelsierSC, kushm4sta, FecalFeast, Superbia, [UoN]Sentinel

Currently, Immaterial is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 06 2014 19:47 GMT
#1082
So what if cricketer was mafia, and he got replaced instead of modkilled. And Sentinel was also mafia, which is why Sentinel told everyone to take their votes off cricket because he was going to be modkilled anyway.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 06 2014 20:17 GMT
#1083
Maybe because I just suggested sentinel was the best lynch like 5 posts ago? Why would I ever bury him if were aligned. On the other hand if cricket was expected to be mod killed and sentinels mafia and knew I was town he would want criket to be mod killed so he could kill two towns in one day.

If sentinels mafia there is pretty much a 0% chance im mafia I hope this clears that up.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 06 2014 20:24 GMT
#1084
On November 07 2014 02:47 sicklucker wrote:
I think sentinal would be a better lynch then ima. He was who I ment when I think there were better targets earlier. He seemed so active in this game before I entered but since I have been I think hes posted once or twice. Hes the likely leader for alot of the mafia teams as he seems more experienced.

I feel like he went mute because he was caught in a bad spot because of kelsiers high risk high reward play and he doesint think hes on the chopping block yet or has just given up.

I think its more likely imma is a bad town then sentinel is a bad town. Maybe someone whos played with him before can give us more


ok I misread your message so disregard the second part.

Actually the fact sentinel saved cricket from the vote is very town to me Because I know im town. Im gonna have to take another look at sentinel

Sentinel where are you???!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 06 2014 20:25 GMT
#1085
On November 07 2014 05:17 sicklucker wrote:
Maybe because I just suggested sentinel was the best lynch like 5 posts ago? Why would I ever bury him if were aligned. On the other hand if cricket was expected to be mod killed and sentinels mafia and knew I was town he would want criket to be mod killed so he could kill two towns in one day.

If sentinels mafia there is pretty much a 0% chance im mafia I hope this clears that up.


Doesn't work like that.
Minimal effort.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 06 2014 20:28 GMT
#1086
was cricket ever a serious option, I never got that impression
Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 06 2014 20:29 GMT
#1087
Actually im lost in my own train of thought. If sentinel was mafia HE WOULD NOT want criket voted off because he can get him mod killed AND lynch another town on the same night hes super scummy.

And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that

##unvote

##vote [UoN]Sentinel
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 06 2014 20:45 GMT
#1088
Lynch for today is Kelsier or Sentinel at this point in time.

If Kelsier doesn't die before mylo and he's town, we lose the game. The counter-claim was incredibly bad/scummy (it was obvious that LS wasn't going to rescind early on). Three minutes is never enough in any forum game I've ever played. I'll re-iterate: Kelsier needs to be lynched before MYLO. Even if he's town, he's going to pose such a big fucking question mark that mafia will have an easy time getting a miss-lynch off. The fact that only bats is on him for this is ridiculous.

I've said everything I needed to already on Sentinel.

I want hear from both Sentinel and Immaterial why they had their vote on LS after the CC was rescinded. Very, very curious.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 06 2014 20:49 GMT
#1089
On November 07 2014 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
Actually im lost in my own train of thought. If sentinel was mafia HE WOULD NOT want criket voted off because he can get him mod killed AND lynch another town on the same night hes super scummy.

And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that

##unvote

##vote [UoN]Sentinel


I'm all for lynching Sentinel, but that is a dumb reason. Mod kills are the last thing that can be relied on. Also there will always be a warning first.

Why did you think Immaterial was a good lynch early today, btw?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 06 2014 20:56 GMT
#1090
Also need Kush to start doing shit, as someone pointed out before. No more lurkers.
Minimal effort.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 06 2014 21:02 GMT
#1091
This thread died fast after yesterday's fail lynch.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 06 2014 21:07 GMT
#1092
On November 07 2014 05:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2014 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
Actually im lost in my own train of thought. If sentinel was mafia HE WOULD NOT want criket voted off because he can get him mod killed AND lynch another town on the same night hes super scummy.

And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that

##unvote

##vote [UoN]Sentinel


I'm all for lynching Sentinel, but that is a dumb reason. Mod kills are the last thing that can be relied on. Also there will always be a warning first.

Why did you think Immaterial was a good lynch early today, btw?


I felt like it was going to be hard to lynch other people in my scum list but because imma got so many votes I felt like he was the easiest one. I felt like we had some towns that were really off focus like elvis who are pushing other towns so I wanted the easy scum vote.

when i voted imma I believe my words were "there one or two people id rather lynch over imma but I believe hes a good lynch" The person I was talking about was sentinel.

I was kinda surprised people want to vote sentinel so im jumping on that. I think the main reason im surprised is because I was not here day 1 and sentinel is not here day 2... He has like completely checked out.

Reasons are his votes his alignments and his inactivity like hes given up or trying to fly under the radar like hes a role. That last part was just more fuel on the fire.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 06 2014 21:13 GMT
#1093
On November 07 2014 06:07 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2014 05:49 Superbia wrote:
On November 07 2014 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
Actually im lost in my own train of thought. If sentinel was mafia HE WOULD NOT want criket voted off because he can get him mod killed AND lynch another town on the same night hes super scummy.

And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that

##unvote

##vote [UoN]Sentinel


I'm all for lynching Sentinel, but that is a dumb reason. Mod kills are the last thing that can be relied on. Also there will always be a warning first.

Why did you think Immaterial was a good lynch early today, btw?


I felt like it was going to be hard to lynch other people in my scum list but because imma got so many votes I felt like he was the easiest one. I felt like we had some towns that were really off focus like elvis who are pushing other towns so I wanted the easy scum vote.

when i voted imma I believe my words were "there one or two people id rather lynch over imma but I believe hes a good lynch" The person I was talking about was sentinel.

I was kinda surprised people want to vote sentinel so im jumping on that. I think the main reason im surprised is because I was not here day 1 and sentinel is not here day 2... He has like completely checked out.

Reasons are his votes his alignments and his inactivity like hes given up or trying to fly under the radar like hes a role. That last part was just more fuel on the fire.


Walk me through your thought process. Immaterial puts down a vote on LS early on and then fucks off for the rest of the day. Is it scummy at that point in time as well, or is it only scummy because LS flipped green (cop)? Why did you feel the need to put down a vote so early?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 06 2014 21:17 GMT
#1094
On November 07 2014 06:02 Serejai wrote:
This thread died fast after yesterday's fail lynch.


Yes, but you can't take anything from it. Afkers can be dejected town, lurking mafia, or lurking town.
Minimal effort.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 06 2014 21:30 GMT
#1095
On November 06 2014 14:13 Breshke wrote:
Okay i thought you were trying to write kush.

I know it doesnt mean mentioning but then i don't get this.

Show nested quote +
like your order I might throw Breshke at the end of your list too but if we kill 2 or 3 of them and there town THATS WHEN we hightly consider lynching kesh or other completely new ideas.


Rereading this actually you did say if not we should but idk i don't like this.


Ya ok I just read it thanks for that filter tip I did not know about it before makes things easier. Going into this I was told hes a very helpful town but a horrible mafia. I dont know about all that so i just go on what people I have town reads on tell me but as an unbiased person this is what I think from the little information hes given us.

He comes off to me when he actually seems serious as townie to me. He hard defended not lynching the cop to you off all people.


On November 05 2014 07:05 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:00 Breshke wrote:
How will ls ever prove himself this is the problem he will forever be a question mark it will forever be a massive question mark and willr esult in people having to claim there role early so im happy with voting him now. The claim was bad and i disagree that his play has been towny saying stuff is weird without any other reasoning isn't good enough.


i dont get your reasoning here. he can be proved by a flip or a claim. Very possibly that would have happened before lylo but if it didn't so what. We would still have confirmed scum/town at lylo.


I think your missing this fact he also voted sentinel really fast I highly doubt they are aligned. If sentinels misslynched it makes a little bit of sense to look at him but hes leaning town for me right now and would be a horrible lynch atm.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 06 2014 21:40 GMT
#1096
On November 07 2014 06:13 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2014 06:07 sicklucker wrote:
On November 07 2014 05:49 Superbia wrote:
On November 07 2014 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
Actually im lost in my own train of thought. If sentinel was mafia HE WOULD NOT want criket voted off because he can get him mod killed AND lynch another town on the same night hes super scummy.

And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that

##unvote

##vote [UoN]Sentinel


I'm all for lynching Sentinel, but that is a dumb reason. Mod kills are the last thing that can be relied on. Also there will always be a warning first.

Why did you think Immaterial was a good lynch early today, btw?


I felt like it was going to be hard to lynch other people in my scum list but because imma got so many votes I felt like he was the easiest one. I felt like we had some towns that were really off focus like elvis who are pushing other towns so I wanted the easy scum vote.

when i voted imma I believe my words were "there one or two people id rather lynch over imma but I believe hes a good lynch" The person I was talking about was sentinel.

I was kinda surprised people want to vote sentinel so im jumping on that. I think the main reason im surprised is because I was not here day 1 and sentinel is not here day 2... He has like completely checked out.

Reasons are his votes his alignments and his inactivity like hes given up or trying to fly under the radar like hes a role. That last part was just more fuel on the fire.


Walk me through your thought process. Immaterial puts down a vote on LS early on and then fucks off for the rest of the day. Is it scummy at that point in time as well, or is it only scummy because LS flipped green (cop)? Why did you feel the need to put down a vote so early?



I think imma voting earlier is more a tell of his inexperience. Same goes for me I probably voted too soon. Im trying to sway the vote in the direction I feel helps us win the game but unlike imma i am not gonna afk and leave my vote the same if It doesint make much sense.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 06 2014 21:56 GMT
#1097
On October 31 2014 03:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
The last Resistance game was horrible too. Although that might be because everyone thought I was confirmed scum and pretty much beat me into submission while I was travelling through the service-less mountains of New Hampshire and couldn't defend myself without losing like 10% batter per post.


I found this interesting and im bring this up even tho I have him voted because this is basically whats happening now

But he also goes on to talk about how he should have more time in his next post.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 06 2014 22:02 GMT
#1098
On November 07 2014 06:30 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 14:13 Breshke wrote:
Okay i thought you were trying to write kush.

I know it doesnt mean mentioning but then i don't get this.

like your order I might throw Breshke at the end of your list too but if we kill 2 or 3 of them and there town THATS WHEN we hightly consider lynching kesh or other completely new ideas.


Rereading this actually you did say if not we should but idk i don't like this.


Ya ok I just read it thanks for that filter tip I did not know about it before makes things easier. Going into this I was told hes a very helpful town but a horrible mafia. I dont know about all that so i just go on what people I have town reads on tell me but as an unbiased person this is what I think from the little information hes given us.

He comes off to me when he actually seems serious as townie to me. He hard defended not lynching the cop to you off all people.


Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:05 kushm4sta wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:00 Breshke wrote:
How will ls ever prove himself this is the problem he will forever be a question mark it will forever be a massive question mark and willr esult in people having to claim there role early so im happy with voting him now. The claim was bad and i disagree that his play has been towny saying stuff is weird without any other reasoning isn't good enough.


i dont get your reasoning here. he can be proved by a flip or a claim. Very possibly that would have happened before lylo but if it didn't so what. We would still have confirmed scum/town at lylo.


I think your missing this fact he also voted sentinel really fast I highly doubt they are aligned. If sentinels misslynched it makes a little bit of sense to look at him but hes leaning town for me right now and would be a horrible lynch atm.


it is seriously worrying me that kush is leaning town for you.

On November 05 2014 07:05 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:00 Breshke wrote:
How will ls ever prove himself this is the problem he will forever be a question mark it will forever be a massive question mark and willr esult in people having to claim there role early so im happy with voting him now. The claim was bad and i disagree that his play has been towny saying stuff is weird without any other reasoning isn't good enough.


i dont get your reasoning here. he can be proved by a flip or a claim. Very possibly that would have happened before lylo but if it didn't so what. We would still have confirmed scum/town at lylo.


You quote this ad being one of the reasons kush was town, I would say the exact opposite. If kush is town why wasn't he explaining this to us before we lynched the cop? He was obviously here as this post came just 5 minutes after the lynch and he hasn't said otherwise.

Also you are missing the fact that everyone who didn't vote on immaterial is as much at fault for the cop lynch as the people voting on the cop. The only person i would take off of this list is superbia because i would say his vote was seconds from counting.

Show me a post where Kush is trying to figure out the game show me a post where kush gives an in depth read on someone. Not only is this terrible town play but grack has shown us that this is more likely kush's scum meta
On November 05 2014 13:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 13:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
From what everyone says, kush is really bad at playing scum and usually slips up early.

He has been inactive mostly but I have no real read on him. I am just about to leave for home. If I remember I'll dive his filter when I am home.

Kush is quite bad at playing scum. He used to only be capable of bussing as scum, so if all of Kush's reads were correct you could tell that he had too much information.

On November 05 2014 13:37 Grackaroni wrote:
here are some funny Kush quotes from an old scum qt I remembered from the TL mafia database.
(this is an awesome place to go to if you want to study past games of a player in your game!)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-22-2013
02:22 AM ET (US)


here is a gift i am going to give to all of you. The gift of a 100% easy and correct way of reading my alignment.

I cannot read town filters as scum. I just tried and it's impossible. Too boring! But I do it as my primary scumhunting method as town.

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-21-2013
09:57 AM ET (US)

please bus me i want my life to end

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-21-2013
09:38 AM ET (US)

im so sad i got scum. everyone has permission to bus the shit out of me

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-20-2013
10:58 PM ET (US)

nah im trash scum and i will bus all of you in the most obvious manner


The only possibility that kush is town is if he just does not care about this game at all but considering his hype early game i don't see why there would be such a sudden shift in his mood.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 06 2014 22:10 GMT
#1099
People who have seemingly disappeared from the thread since we lynched the cop:

kush
Sentinel
Elvis
Immaterial

kush - Has been afk pretty much all game anyway, so his activity has not really changed.

Sentinel - His activity in this thread has dropped noticeably since the lynching.

Elvis - His activity has steadily declined all game. He started off being one of the most active players, then threw a vote on me... and ever since he hasn't really contributed anything at all to the game. He's made like three posts since the lynch; two of them were fluff posts that were made to look like he was active but didn't actually contain anything, and the third was him tunneling me as usual. If he's not scum then he's the least helpful townie possible - even less helpful than kush. At least when kush posts it's usually about someone different each time. 99% of Elvis' posts are just tunneling me and not benefiting town in any way. Lots of words with nothing being said.

Immaterial - Disappeared after lynching the cop and claiming he had a good reason for it that he would provide shortly. 48 hours later and he still hasn't posted again.

In essence all four of these players have been doing nothing at all to help town. I'm actually going to change my vote back to Elvis for what I mentioned above, because he's actually the least consistent of those four. A very close second would be Sentinel, who was active at the start and then tapered off quickly. I think I would be happy to lynch either of those two today, over Immaterial or kush. My vote will stay on Elvis for the time being, though.

##unvote

##vote Elvis
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 06 2014 22:36 GMT
#1100
Serajai you earlier asked why people were turning a blind eye to kush. I know you mention him but you don't even consider him for a lynch. Do you think my case on him is bad do you disagree with anything about it?

Also I feel myself agreeing with you on elvis he is currently lean scum for me. My rpoblem here is last game i played with Elvis he was basically tunneled on me for parts of the game where he was alive. I thought his case on me was terrible hence coming to the conclusion that he was mafia. In fact it was just two towns fighting. I am not saying that is whats going on right now but just keep in mind Elvis has done this as town.

Also you seem to read people who have become less active after the cop lynch as mafia. Could you explain to me how this is mafia indicative.
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