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On November 06 2014 10:06 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 10:03 Breshke wrote:On November 06 2014 09:47 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 09:44 Breshke wrote:
I've already explained that even if there is a doc the cop is still useless until we kill the roleblocker Yeah but we would still have a confirmed town. And it would have been really great if lightning was confirmed town because his posts were really scummy. This is true but what im saying is do you think KSC sacrifices himself like this as mafia to stop there being ONE confirmed town who was a newer player who had basically only been sheeping reads. It would appear he sacrificed himself to kill the cop, actually. That is what happened. You really need to understand that if someone claims cop, it's serious. It means they're the cop until they get cced. There is no town motivation for claiming cop to get the real cop lynched.
I had my own reasons why i thought it was a good idea but this is a very good point KSC what were you trying to do when you counterclaimed LS?
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Also why is immaterial scummy?
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On November 06 2014 10:10 Breshke wrote:
Also why is immaterial scummy?
Because he has a -1 in my D1 spreadsheet. I don't have formal reasons. You might as well assume I'm null reading him.
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Snacks what's the current value for jasminejai?
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On November 06 2014 10:10 Breshke wrote:
Also why is immaterial scummy?
On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes
Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late
28 hours later and we're still waiting for this justification he had for lynching the cop.
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On November 06 2014 09:41 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 06 2014 09:39 Breshke wrote:On November 06 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.
1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.
2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.
Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above. Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense. No i'm asking why KSC kills the cop during the day instead of just dealing with him at night hence avoiding everyone scum reading him right now. Cuz there's probably a doctor and mafia knows the setup. Er a watcher Hi doc, it was nice knowing you. :/
I dont think that was a slip but THATS SO SCUMMY why would town ever out are doctor incase no one esle noticed
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On November 06 2014 10:26 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes
Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late 28 hours later and we're still waiting for this justification he had for lynching the cop.
I agree I expect immaterial to come back to the thread and do his best to portray town and hunt scum. I find it weird that he said he would justify his vote because he admitted to not reading the thread meaning he was going to read him scum no matter what.
Serejai do you not think kush is just as bad. He was voting for sentinel with an unjustified vote which also lynched the cop. Yes it wasn't in such a direct way but the end result is still the same.
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On November 06 2014 10:34 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 09:41 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 06 2014 09:39 Breshke wrote:On November 06 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.
1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.
2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.
Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above. Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense. No i'm asking why KSC kills the cop during the day instead of just dealing with him at night hence avoiding everyone scum reading him right now. Cuz there's probably a doctor and mafia knows the setup. Er a watcher Hi doc, it was nice knowing you. :/ I dont think that was a slip but THATS SO SCUMMY why would town ever out are doctor incase no one esle noticed
FF isn't a powerrole stop talking about it any scum you try throw on people for this is made redundant as bringing it up again is scummy.
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On November 06 2014 10:40 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 10:26 Serejai wrote:On November 06 2014 10:10 Breshke wrote:
Also why is immaterial scummy? On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes
Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late 28 hours later and we're still waiting for this justification he had for lynching the cop. I agree I expect immaterial to come back to the thread and do his best to portray town and hunt scum. I find it weird that he said he would justify his vote because he admitted to not reading the thread meaning he was going to read him scum no matter what. Serejai do you not think kush is just as bad. He was voting for sentinel with an unjustified vote which also lynched the cop. Yes it wasn't in such a direct way but the end result is still the same.
I'm null, slightly scum on kush. The fact that he is AFK is a big red flag to me but he hasn't really posted enough to get a read on. Ideally people who have played with him in previous games should step up and comment on his appearances... or lack thereof, but so far everyone seems to be turning a blind eye to him.
I'm concerned about him because whatever he is, he's not really being helpful to town at all... but I'm more concerned about other people at the moment. There are three mafia... can't get them all in one day.
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agree on Breshke's last 2 posts.
Kush has been really non-posting for almost all of the game, he has barely any and as he said has a vote he didn't evne really warrant for.
Also that post by sicklucker is like wtf are you doing there randomly claiming people are scummy based on single posts.
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On November 06 2014 11:00 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 10:40 Breshke wrote:On November 06 2014 10:26 Serejai wrote:On November 06 2014 10:10 Breshke wrote:
Also why is immaterial scummy? On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes
Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late 28 hours later and we're still waiting for this justification he had for lynching the cop. I agree I expect immaterial to come back to the thread and do his best to portray town and hunt scum. I find it weird that he said he would justify his vote because he admitted to not reading the thread meaning he was going to read him scum no matter what. Serejai do you not think kush is just as bad. He was voting for sentinel with an unjustified vote which also lynched the cop. Yes it wasn't in such a direct way but the end result is still the same. I'm null, slightly scum on kush. The fact that he is AFK is a big red flag to me but he hasn't really posted enough to get a read on. Ideally people who have played with him in previous games should step up and comment on his appearances... or lack thereof, but so far everyone seems to be turning a blind eye to him. I'm concerned about him because whatever he is, he's not really being helpful to town at all... but I'm more concerned about other people at the moment. There are three mafia... can't get them all in one da.
It has been said multiple times with evidence (in grackaroni's filter) that kush plays an afk bad scum game.
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He busses or afks from what grack and others say. I don't have much experience with scumkush
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I thought my point was valid but not worth wasting time on.
Anyway elvis heres where im at with you. Im trying so hard to see you as town but you seem to be aligning yourself with more scummy people then townie.
Grack got whacked and he had very similar ideas of who to lynch as me. He also has kesh as town if im not mistaken so that would be a terrible lynch this early on.
##Vote Immaterial
I think hes a good lynch there might be one or two better but this seems to be where its going
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On November 06 2014 02:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I won't be on either, focus on immaterial/Kush when they post tomorrow.
I was pressuring Elvis a lot yesterday but I don't think he's scum anymore.
Superbia/sentinel are both possibilities
Try to look at KSCs play as a whole rather than just the fake claim -I'm pretty sure town fake counter claims more often than scum.
Batsnacks vote doesn't matter too much to me. It's not strange reasoning from Serajai but he could have easily not changed votes at all.
"When they post tomorrow"
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Yeah really immaterial left us with a cliffhanger it's been 30 hours since he said he'd justify himself
On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes
Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late
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On November 05 2014 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
Im going with KelsierSC as a town here. He may have blotched it and got the cop killed but you can see what he was trying to do. I dont think he does this as mafia it makes no sense. The cop came out so theres no reason to do a high risk play to get him killed
Can you expand on your reason to call kelly town? There have been multiple reasons stated as to why there's a reason to do the high risk play, even if it's not foolproof.
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Bats and serajai your scum reads today have been based mainly around the vote, who's fault it was and what the vote implicates. A lot of us fucked up yesterday and i think if we had had 5 minutes longer (yes bats i agree 3 minutes isn't long enough) i think the day would have ended very differently. While this was a massive thing that happend i think you are both focusing on it way too much.
Serajai you say you want to lynch immaterial because you think that we will get the most information from his flip compared to other people you are scum reading. Could you give me an explanation of what you mean by this, like what will you get if he flips town/what will you get if he flips mafia.
Bats your only problem with KSC is that he got the cop lynched and that is yes a big deal but go back and look at the rest of his play. Can you show me what else you think he has done that is scummy?
I don't know if immaterial or KSC is scum, im actually lean scum on immaterial and null on KSC waiting for him to come back to the thread and give some insight on his play but there is one thing that is more and more obvious to me and that is that kush is scum
As grack said kush doesn't like to play as mafia. In a previous game he has admitted he can't read town filters so it makes it hard for him to portray town because as town that is the main way he gets reads. Is there any evidence this game that kush has gone back and read someones filter to get a read on them? No infact there is exact the opposite.
On November 05 2014 05:52 kushm4sta wrote:
who was that dude that wwas like I THINK IT MIGHT BE 10/3. we can lynch him right?
On November 05 2014 05:57 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 05:55 KelsierSC wrote:On November 05 2014 05:53 kushm4sta wrote:
basically due to the closed nature of this game, LS is now a terrible lynch because his alignment can be confirmed at lylo. i'd be down for a sentinal lynch as well. can u link me or summarize a case sir?
In both these quotes kush shows that he can not be bothered going back to read the game which is an exact mafia tell of his. He does not care about going back to read peoples filters because he doesn't need to get reads on anyone because he is mafia and has perfect imformation
##Vote: kushm4sta
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Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. Roughly speaking, this equates to a bare minimum of one post per 36 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled or replaced.
TBH immaterial is coming close to modkill inactivity
Kush isn't far behind.
I understand it's not a 36 hour limit and I'm not saying they're going to get modkilled but man are these guys not helping at all. One of them has a hard scum tell in thread and one is new. I'd rather lynch kush than imma at this point, but first would really like imma to follow up on his last post.
I don't even know maybe kelly saw his team and realized he had to try something drastic with 2 afkers lol.
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Seriously noone has explained this still. lets assume KSC is scum.
He sees LS claim cop to try and get out of a lynch. So as mafia he knows either this is the real cop or a dumb vanilla town trying to save himself. If LS was vanilla town this would be great for KSC he would just sit back and let a shitstorm unleash. KSC then has to think wait this guy could be the real cop. You guys then think that his next action is I better cc this cop so we can lynch him during the day drawing all this attention to myself and probably getting myself lynched tomorrow.
Why would KSC as mafia not just deal with LS during the night no one has given any reason for this.
That being said I have explained why i don't think the cc came from a mafia mindset but KSC i still want to hear what town mindset it comes from.
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On November 06 2014 12:12 Breshke wrote:
Seriously noone has explained this still. lets assume KSC is scum.
He sees LS claim cop to try and get out of a lynch. So as mafia he knows either this is the real cop or a dumb vanilla town trying to save himself. If LS was vanilla town this would be great for KSC he would just sit back and let a shitstorm unleash. KSC then has to think wait this guy could be the real cop. You guys then think that his next action is I better cc this cop so we can lynch him during the day drawing all this attention to myself and probably getting myself lynched tomorrow.
Why would KSC as mafia not just deal with LS during the night no one has given any reason for this.
That being said I have explained why i don't think the cc came from a mafia mindset but KSC i still want to hear what town mindset it comes from.
A shitstorm didn't unleash, multiple people unvoted right after he claimed cop. I think you're naive thinking scumkelsier isn't capable of a play like that. Mafia gets dead cop and dead townie and especially since they know there's a watcher, killing cop during the day to eliminate a stressful wifom-filled night kill discussion and getting 2 free guesses on the watcher with kill/RB is totally worth a dead goon IMHO
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