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On October 15 2014 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky explain to me why you did read VE & CR as top town on D1.
That's not clear from your posting at all.
VE I made pretty clear early on. He has done nothing but re-enforce it with his play. I mean....I don't see how you could see him as not town right now. Especially because he pretty much solo beat a fake claim to death with a stick.
CR:
On October 13 2014 04:50 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 23:25 GlowingBear wrote:
He then townreads sqrt. He came to the thread, made a joke and lurked. Contributed with nothing. When he posts his reads, he is town because he have different reads from everybody? Do you think this is alignment indicative? I don't.
Why do you think this makes me mafia, yet DP isn't when DP arrives at literally almost word for word the exact same conclusion on sqrt a couple pages later? Your criticism is uneven; dat be a maf indicator. Your post about me felt like you were committed to scum reading me because of what you said last night, not particularly because you had a scum read on me. Very forced, over-committing. I also completely agree with CR about the point he made regarding over-stating how you're at a party even though no one prompted it.
On October 13 2014 09:43 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back, but I have a really busy thanksgiving weekend. I'll touch on the people who I haven't yet, and go back to the festivities.
Barakos has few posts, but they are all really good.
Rayn is null
Kush hasn't done anything.
Neither has Sn0.
Ritoky is interesting. I have no idea what all the food pictures are.
Oats is town.
My vote is on glowingbear. Don't expect me to talk until tuesday. Another person telling us how busy they are, cool beans. While you were so busy you managed to glance through the thread and give some baseless and unexplained feeling reads, which is cute and all. But you obviously didn't care about them too much since you seem to think barakos and rayn are separate people and deserve separate reads. Beginning to believe a bit more in CR's case regarding you not giving a crap about the thread. Though I doubt you will read or respond to this, get back to me on Tuesday yeah? W/e.
Was it not there, or were you not reading cuz of the food pictures? CR made me begin to doubt my read on sqrt because his post was good, and sqrt has only continued in the same vein of play since then. His points about GB being defensive and overstating being at a party without being prompted were my exact thoughts, he just typed them before I could. And, unlike you, I don't think he would vote on a very clearly already dead townie, as mafia, 10 mins before the deadline.
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1) i like developing my reads on people over the course of the game. regardless of if they are my express target or not. you actively refused to read my posts (not town thing to do) and you did not develop anything from your interaction with kush other than fluffity fluff fluff.
Incorrect. I actively refused to answer you/talk to you because your posting was just fluff that didn't accomplish anything.
2) you interacted with him more than ANYONE in the entire thread AFTER he had flipped; and didn't even mention it once. if he refuses to answer, that's on him; but you didn't even try. yet he gets scum read. mhm. i think there's a level of conceit to your game.
Are you talking about his vote? I don't find it a scum/town tell. Why would i mention non-alignment indicative stuff?
You say "if he doesn't answer it's on him". But then it's bad i scumread him for it?!?!?!?
Like should i scumread him or townread him because he didn't want to push the game forward? I scumread him for it. How is this scummy? YOU JUST SAID IT IS THE CORRECT CONCLUSION!!!!
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On October 15 2014 19:01 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky explain to me why you did read VE & CR as top town on D1.
That's not clear from your posting at all. VE I made pretty clear early on. He has done nothing but re-enforce it with his play. I mean....I don't see how you could see him as not town right now. Especially because he pretty much solo beat a fake claim to death with a stick. CR: Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 04:50 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 23:25 GlowingBear wrote:
He then townreads sqrt. He came to the thread, made a joke and lurked. Contributed with nothing. When he posts his reads, he is town because he have different reads from everybody? Do you think this is alignment indicative? I don't.
Why do you think this makes me mafia, yet DP isn't when DP arrives at literally almost word for word the exact same conclusion on sqrt a couple pages later? Your criticism is uneven; dat be a maf indicator. Your post about me felt like you were committed to scum reading me because of what you said last night, not particularly because you had a scum read on me. Very forced, over-committing. I also completely agree with CR about the point he made regarding over-stating how you're at a party even though no one prompted it. Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 09:43 ritoky wrote:On October 13 2014 07:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back, but I have a really busy thanksgiving weekend. I'll touch on the people who I haven't yet, and go back to the festivities.
Barakos has few posts, but they are all really good.
Rayn is null
Kush hasn't done anything.
Neither has Sn0.
Ritoky is interesting. I have no idea what all the food pictures are.
Oats is town.
My vote is on glowingbear. Don't expect me to talk until tuesday. Another person telling us how busy they are, cool beans. While you were so busy you managed to glance through the thread and give some baseless and unexplained feeling reads, which is cute and all. But you obviously didn't care about them too much since you seem to think barakos and rayn are separate people and deserve separate reads. Beginning to believe a bit more in CR's case regarding you not giving a crap about the thread. Though I doubt you will read or respond to this, get back to me on Tuesday yeah? W/e. Was it not there, or were you not reading cuz of the food pictures? CR made me begin to doubt my read on sqrt because his post was good, and sqrt has only continued in the same vein of play since then. His points about GB being defensive and overstating being at a party without being prompted were my exact thoughts, he just typed them before I could. And, unlike you, I don't think he would vote on a very clearly already dead townie, as mafia, 10 mins before the deadline.
Yes that's what i would expect you to answer... mostly.
Read on CR is fine and makes sense.
Can you point out the posts from VE that made you think he is town early on?
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On October 15 2014 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Whatever. I gotta get up in about 5 hours so: First of all; Never trust any claims and lynch them!!! Seriously. There is no way either of Hopeless or DarthPunk is fakeclaiming. I am willing to take all the blame of the loss of this game if we do lose because one of them was fakeclaiming and i am wrong. But i am not going to be wrong. geript is already setting himself up for fakeclaiming doctor. In addition to all said before lynch the shit outta him, he is mafia. Go read the Survivor Series game and his filter. In the game people were set on lynching Corazon D1. Noone wanted to lynch Grackaroni or Oats. See how geript approaches the lynch. He just pushes something he can never get lynched with a weak case. Like in this game. I think he was doing the same thing with Damdred here. There was really no way Damdred was gonna get lynched but still, for some reason geript didn't push Oats who was his second scumread while making a case on him. I don't think the "size" of the case matters but if geript has a scumread on both of the people he would push the one he can realisticly get lynched, he is good enough to figure out. I also don't even think he could actually read Damdred mafia as strong as he claims as i pointed out at the start of N1. Lynch geript, he is mafia. Then lynch kushmasta. He is not playing. He is more interested in talking about irrelevant stuff than he is interested in playing the game. That is a scumtell. Hell the dude even claims "i really wanted to play" at the start of the game!!!! Does it look like he has any interest in playing? No it doesn't. mafia!kush doesn't play. Go look at his past town games and i bet you can find a game where he gives reads during the night. I am 100% sure you can find a game in his past 5 town games but i just don't care to check it right now. If you don't believe me go check it out. Then lynch ritoky. He is the definition of blending in. I don't give a shit about his past town games (i only remember the one where he was the bomb or some shit). I can't just remember anything he has said - at all. scum. In one of his posts he said he "sheeped his strong town reads on Oats". If i am alive at D2 i am going to see if there is indication of which of me, VE, DP and geript he read "strong town". because i am sure he didn't read ME as strong town, not by his posting. Check that out. I bet that one stinks as fuck if you want complete proof. Keep an eye on CR and sqrt. sqrt promised to read, he's been reading for quite a long time already. Expect and demand reads from them. CR can say smart stuff as mafia but usually makes one big post / phase that looks "good" and that's pretty much it. Make both of them play the game and do more stuff they have. They are never mafia together. Never ever lynch VE. He is not going to be mafia this game. GB most likely not mafia aswell. If he is scum inactives fucked up the game because there is just no room to lynch GB as there is no time, you absolutely need to figure out other people. That's the priority as GB looks 100x better than those three "heavily mafia" and two "at least possible mafia". VE & DP please don't lose tha game in case i die. Lynch those fucker scum for the win! Goodluck. Godspeed.
I mean, is this the proof you want? You claim to have never wanted to lynch lurkers. You want to lynch me, kush, geript, sqrt, and CR as your top 4 at this point. Thats 4 of the shortest filters + geript.
As I stated, the statistic only works on the first person to mention it, and I plan to go back and look at whom that was; but I mean I am not stupid. Don't just bold faced lie that you didn't do it. Yeah you have crap side reasons that are meh, doesn't make it a non-list of lurkers.
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In that post i am not saying i want to lynch sqrt or CR.
That is completely twist of what i was. I am clearly saying "keep an eye on them" because they have posted so little it's hard to figure out their alignment. Maybe you should learn some reading comprehension yourself...
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On October 15 2014 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +1) i like developing my reads on people over the course of the game. regardless of if they are my express target or not. you actively refused to read my posts (not town thing to do) and you did not develop anything from your interaction with kush other than fluffity fluff fluff. Incorrect. I actively refused to answer you/talk to you because your posting was just fluff that didn't accomplish anything. Show nested quote +2) you interacted with him more than ANYONE in the entire thread AFTER he had flipped; and didn't even mention it once. if he refuses to answer, that's on him; but you didn't even try. yet he gets scum read. mhm. i think there's a level of conceit to your game. Are you talking about his vote? I don't find it a scum/town tell. Why would i mention non-alignment indicative stuff? You say "if he doesn't answer it's on him". But then it's bad i scumread him for it?!?!?!? Like should i scumread him or townread him because he didn't want to push the game forward? I scumread him for it. How is this scummy? YOU JUST SAID IT IS THE CORRECT CONCLUSION!!!!
It is an issue of process how do you not get that by now?
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On October 15 2014 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In that post i am not saying i want to lynch sqrt or CR.
That is completely twist of what i was. I am clearly saying "keep an eye on them" because they have posted so little it's hard to figure out their alignment. Maybe you should learn some reading comprehension yourself...
you say they aren't mafia together, but you are very clearly stating that if we miss on the above 3/i change on one of them, then these 2 are next in line.
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Can you just answer me regarding VE?
You're being dumb on this and i am not going to explain myself further. If you are gonna push this feel free to do so. Noone is going to buy that shit.
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On October 15 2014 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 19:01 ritoky wrote:On October 15 2014 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky explain to me why you did read VE & CR as top town on D1.
That's not clear from your posting at all. VE I made pretty clear early on. He has done nothing but re-enforce it with his play. I mean....I don't see how you could see him as not town right now. Especially because he pretty much solo beat a fake claim to death with a stick. CR: On October 13 2014 04:50 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 23:25 GlowingBear wrote:
He then townreads sqrt. He came to the thread, made a joke and lurked. Contributed with nothing. When he posts his reads, he is town because he have different reads from everybody? Do you think this is alignment indicative? I don't.
Why do you think this makes me mafia, yet DP isn't when DP arrives at literally almost word for word the exact same conclusion on sqrt a couple pages later? Your criticism is uneven; dat be a maf indicator. Your post about me felt like you were committed to scum reading me because of what you said last night, not particularly because you had a scum read on me. Very forced, over-committing. I also completely agree with CR about the point he made regarding over-stating how you're at a party even though no one prompted it. On October 13 2014 09:43 ritoky wrote:On October 13 2014 07:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back, but I have a really busy thanksgiving weekend. I'll touch on the people who I haven't yet, and go back to the festivities.
Barakos has few posts, but they are all really good.
Rayn is null
Kush hasn't done anything.
Neither has Sn0.
Ritoky is interesting. I have no idea what all the food pictures are.
Oats is town.
My vote is on glowingbear. Don't expect me to talk until tuesday. Another person telling us how busy they are, cool beans. While you were so busy you managed to glance through the thread and give some baseless and unexplained feeling reads, which is cute and all. But you obviously didn't care about them too much since you seem to think barakos and rayn are separate people and deserve separate reads. Beginning to believe a bit more in CR's case regarding you not giving a crap about the thread. Though I doubt you will read or respond to this, get back to me on Tuesday yeah? W/e. Was it not there, or were you not reading cuz of the food pictures? CR made me begin to doubt my read on sqrt because his post was good, and sqrt has only continued in the same vein of play since then. His points about GB being defensive and overstating being at a party without being prompted were my exact thoughts, he just typed them before I could. And, unlike you, I don't think he would vote on a very clearly already dead townie, as mafia, 10 mins before the deadline. Yes that's what i would expect you to answer... mostly. Read on CR is fine and makes sense. Can you point out the posts from VE that made you think he is town early on?
On October 12 2014 07:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys I'm town YAAAAAAYY!!!
I like that people are in here saying stuff. I don't know if any of it is alignment indicative - ask me again once I've read it all. For now, I know I've seen geript in here nitpicking about others' wording in their posts trying to make it alignment indicative, so I'm going to call him my top town for now.
GOOD GAME SCUM, TRY AND DEFEAT A GERIPT/VE TOWNTEAM OF DENSITY!!!
On October 12 2014 07:23 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 07:22 geript wrote:
This is going to be sweet. I think we're all town. I wonder who between DP, VE and myself they're going to risk shooting. Me I think. But then I might be the best medic save too. Metametametametameta
On October 12 2014 10:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 10:48 ritoky wrote:
how's everyone doing?
what's everybody havin for dinner tonight? i am having a nice pasta primavera. I had pizza. It was confirmed delish.
On October 12 2014 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 12:04 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:02 DarthPunk wrote:
In case I wasn't clear earlier. I will policy lynch a shit poster with geript. And we WILL push that motherfucker through if we both want it.
I am willing to lose the game and just lynch all these fucking useless players.
in 1 post, i have provided more content than 3 of your pages. so what if i surround it with 5 posts of talking about food. i like food, don't you? how come you and geript are now a package deal. buddying up much? Hey you mess with those guys you mess with me too pal. What you think I'm mafia too bro? What exactly are you accusing me of?
do i need to keep going? i am basically quoting every 3rd post.
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On October 12 2014 12:12 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 12 2014 12:04 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:02 DarthPunk wrote:
In case I wasn't clear earlier. I will policy lynch a shit poster with geript. And we WILL push that motherfucker through if we both want it.
I am willing to lose the game and just lynch all these fucking useless players.
in 1 post, i have provided more content than 3 of your pages. so what if i surround it with 5 posts of talking about food. i like food, don't you? how come you and geript are now a package deal. buddying up much? Hey you mess with those guys you mess with me too pal. What you think I'm mafia too bro? What exactly are you accusing me of? i am accusing you of aligning yourself heavily with people who are traffic copping (moreso darth than geript). 1 of which i think is playing dissimilar to his normal town game, and the other who i have never played with, but seems sour.
Interesting.
Care to clarify this post because this doesn't look like a townread to me?
And it happened after the posts you quoted.
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In addition to my latest post:
VE I made pretty clear early on. He has done nothing but re-enforce it with his play.
Doesn't seem like the red part is in line with what you are saying now in comparsion to what you posted on D1.
So why are you talking out of your ass?
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On October 15 2014 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 12:12 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 12 2014 12:04 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:02 DarthPunk wrote:
In case I wasn't clear earlier. I will policy lynch a shit poster with geript. And we WILL push that motherfucker through if we both want it.
I am willing to lose the game and just lynch all these fucking useless players.
in 1 post, i have provided more content than 3 of your pages. so what if i surround it with 5 posts of talking about food. i like food, don't you? how come you and geript are now a package deal. buddying up much? Hey you mess with those guys you mess with me too pal. What you think I'm mafia too bro? What exactly are you accusing me of? i am accusing you of aligning yourself heavily with people who are traffic copping (moreso darth than geript). 1 of which i think is playing dissimilar to his normal town game, and the other who i have never played with, but seems sour. Interesting. Care to clarify this post because this doesn't look like a townread to me? And it happened after the posts you quoted.
? I didn't like with whom my top town read at the time was associating himself strongly with. I mean, that's pretty clearly stated. It doesn't particularly have to do with VE, it has to do with me being a dick to DP cuz he was a dick to me and me not liking him buddying geript when geript is sketchy. Don't see how that besmirches my town read on VE in the slightest.
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There's this thing right. Where you can have a read on someone that is independent of their relations with others at the start of the game. It's pretty amazing, you should try it sometime.
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Anywayz, was a nice chat rayn; going to sleep now. Lynching GB is the way to go for now.
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Vote count
Hopeless1der (1): sqrtofneg1
sqrtofneg1 (2): hopless1der, chairman ray
glowingbear (3): Visceraeyes, Geript, ritoky
damdred (1): glowingbear
not voting (3): kush, rayn, damdred
Currently glowingbear is set to be lynched. This day ends at Thursday, Oct 16 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). At that time, the player set to be lynched will be lynched.
Make sure to vote in the voting thread: (link)
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On October 15 2014 19:21 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 12 2014 12:12 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 12 2014 12:04 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:02 DarthPunk wrote:
In case I wasn't clear earlier. I will policy lynch a shit poster with geript. And we WILL push that motherfucker through if we both want it.
I am willing to lose the game and just lynch all these fucking useless players.
in 1 post, i have provided more content than 3 of your pages. so what if i surround it with 5 posts of talking about food. i like food, don't you? how come you and geript are now a package deal. buddying up much? Hey you mess with those guys you mess with me too pal. What you think I'm mafia too bro? What exactly are you accusing me of? i am accusing you of aligning yourself heavily with people who are traffic copping (moreso darth than geript). 1 of which i think is playing dissimilar to his normal town game, and the other who i have never played with, but seems sour. Interesting. Care to clarify this post because this doesn't look like a townread to me? And it happened after the posts you quoted. ? I didn't like with whom my top town read at the time was associating himself strongly with. I mean, that's pretty clearly stated. It doesn't particularly have to do with VE, it has to do with me being a dick to DP cuz he was a dick to me and me not liking him buddying geript when geript is sketchy. Don't see how that besmirches my town read on VE in the slightest.
What? You clearly accuse VE of doing something. You literally say so. People do not accuse their townreads from what i know.
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So here is my problem with ritoky.
1) His read evolution on VE and how he explains it here. Does anyone think a townie would "accuse" their townread like ritoky says here? well i don't.
2) His scumreads now. He seems to have me, GB and kushmasta as scumreads. It doesn't make any sense at all for me being mafia with either of those people. It just doesn't. ritoky's thought process shows a complete lack of any logical thinking which i don't think is townie at all. He never answers me regarding the things he claims make me scummy (when those aren't even things -- he is not proving them, and he can't possibly prove them because they are not true). He claims i was acting scummily regarding kushmasta on N1 while what i did and my conclusion is what he claims to be more likely townie..... He claims doing something (in this situation scumreading or rather wanting to lynch lurkers) is scummy if done in a certain time. When i do it (except that i really don't) at some other point -- "well what the hell it's still scummy".
3) ritoky's vote on D1. He says he was following his strong townreads VE and CR onto Oats. That's fine, if it only was just that. But it's not. People who started the Oats lynch were DarthPunk and geript. ritoky doesn't think either of those guys is strong town. He scumreads geript. I don't even know what his read on DP is but it doesn't seem like it was town. Then VE votes. Then I vote. ritoky doesn't think i am town, didn't think i am necessarily town on D1. Then CR votes. Well CR hasn't done much on D1. Based on this the people voting on Oats (colors from ritoky's reads) are (in order of time of their votes):
DarthPunk
geript
VE
raynpelikoneet
Hopeless
CR
Notice that at this time the opposing wagons are geript and GlowingBear!!!!
So ritoky sheeps a vote pushed by his scumreads against lynches on his scumreads and says "i am sheeping my townreads although i am not as confident on the lynch as they are".
!!!!!
This is mafia behaviour. It literally doesn't make any sense at all. It also doesn't make any sense he isn't scumreading geript any more (or maybe he is, but then he scumreading like fucking mostly everyone in the game....)
ritoky is mafia.
##vote: ritoky
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kushmasta:
World Heavyweight Championship mafia III (Town Vanilla Killed Night 1):
one of his end of night 1 posts:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 07 2014 07:45 kushm4sta wrote:Artanis/OneguNot gonna put a lot of effort into this one cause I can't really be bothered to. Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's clear what my position is; Vivax, Poof, and Haru are all legitimate lynches for me. Anyone who doesn't know that isn't reading the thread. Why are you focussing on this unimportant issue rather than the actual reads? K so let's look at the reasons behind each of these scumreads. Vivax and poofter are scum because he doesn't know how they are reading him. Know who cares how people read them? scum. Overall bad reasons with no specifics. + Show Spoiler +On August 05 2014 21:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 21:35 kushm4sta wrote:
what does that excuse even mean, artanis? You suddenly got retarded? You don't have time? You aren't motivated? I suddenly got retarded seems to be accurate. The lack of motivation follows from said realization. My opinions pretty much follow popular opinion other than on myself. Vivax' interaction with me felt weird, just answering me when I asked a question and when I returned to the thread he just mentioned how I come back when summoned. I have no idea what his read on me is which is strange when I'm one of the biggest cases in the game. Poof's return to the thread and his reads make no sense to me. I also have no idea how he thinks of me and have no idea how he hasn't commented on that. Here's his case on haru. 3 neatly laid out reasons, all of them bad and easy for scum to make. The second is especially bad. Haru didn't realize artanis was joking with his wos townread so that makes him scum? + Show Spoiler +On August 05 2014 21:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd actually go with Haru. I'm not sure if he behaves this way as scum and that one post does give me pause, but (1) the fact that I'm 4th on his kill list yet the one with his vote, (2)the way he referred to my townread on Wave despite being very clear in why it was and (3)the stuff HF mentioned about his reads all coming from stuff outside the game rather than the game itself make me the most confident in him. Enumeration mine. ~~~ Here is some later, slightly different reasoning behind the Haru lynch. Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 06:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:- Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
- List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
- Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
- In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)
1 "deflecting" lol. Later he expands with this: Show nested quote +1. Because it was phrased in a completely awkward way. It was basically dragged along, and then it turned out he hadn't even read it properly. Why would you bring up something that isn't even related when you haven't even read the context?
Awkward phrasing is a scummy reason to scumread someone. 2 and 3 are exactly the same point pretty much. Haru only wrote the list because he was bugged about it, and kind of as a joke because he said he hated lists. So that is a misrepresentation. ~~~ Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 21:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That would require my brain to work, which at the moment seems to not be the case. This is not an excuse town artanis would make. It's not like he didn't have time to play either. Twice he mentioned how we are bad at banter. He had time to banter but didn't have time to scumhunt?
Showdown Mafia (Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2):
one of his end of night 1 posts:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 01 2014 13:16 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 10:54 ritoky wrote:On August 01 2014 10:50 kushm4sta wrote:
or if you go for the hero shots aka not among the commonly accepted list of potential scum, I'm also going to be pissed. excluding yourself and palmar, who do you feel is off limits for some sploding? and why? um i'd rather do it the other way around because it's easier yamato77 sinani206 fuba MysteryMeat1 Damdred pick from that list. As for why, I've already gone into why I think damdred is scummy. Everyone else is inactive so there aren't really reasons apart from that why they could be scum.
That would be the last two towngames from the database.
You do not give reads during the night kush?
Can you point me out to a game where you in fact do NOT give reads during the night as town?
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Alright.
1) I immediately rescinded my claim because I thought it would be detrimental to town to keep that discussion. Yes, it was after VE pointed out a problem, but I was planning to rescind soon. Look into VE's argument:
+ Show Spoiler +"Like here's where your story falls to pieces. If you're parity cop then you knew going into the night - not at the end of the night but GOING INTO the night that there were 3 primes claimed. This means that from YOUR perspective, you knew that there was 1 between DP and Hopeless and that there is ZERO DOCTOR. That means that you DO NOT get a check when you "out", because mafia will KILL YOU."
A parity cop must check anyone regardless if he is going to die or not. I could simply keep this discussion going and make my way out of it. I could simply say that "yes, I checked Rayn because I had to check someone and I plan to check other person at night" and keep going trying to kill Hopeless. Simply as that.
It was very dumb to claim as town? Yes!
It is even worse claiming as mafia? Yes. If hopeless gets lynched and flips prime, I, as mafia, would get lynched day3. It would be better to hide and try a mislynch on townies today. There are a lot of unconfirmed townies this game to get a mislynch. Horrible move as mafia.
I'm saying it again: I am VT and I fake claimed to get reactions. I've never done that before and I decided I should give it a shot. It was horrible.
2) There is no way I'm mafia after I've put so much effort in the game, specially at night one. I filter dived a lot of people, searched for previous games to understand meta and came back with that to the thread. You were basically scumreading me for saying DP was blue but pointing him out as scum. But check the rest of my gameplay and see if it convinces you I'm mafia.
Now I defended myself, answering Rayn.
Rayn, I think Hopeless is town for his reaction. He didn't flip, there was a chance he was mafia. I mean, there is a possible setup where there is 2 primes and 1 parity cop, and simply 2 primes without any PR. I expected him to, as mafia, start coming full throttle against me. I mean, if a mafia got busted, I think he would turn aggressive and try to get me mislynched at least to save himself. Yet he thought I could be town fake claiming.
To be honest, now that I think more out of this, this doesn't mean much. I just realised that if we are in a setup where there is only 2 primes and no power roles, there is also a GF, which means that there is no Power Role so he KNOWS I'm town and he ALSO knows I'm vt if he is mafia.
God my claim was more retarded than I thought.
Anyway, I'm still having him as town...
CR, for his stream of thought, his confusion but trying to solve it, I don't think mafia would do that and look genuine like CR did. I believe that he turned from a question mark into a leaning town after my fake claim.
Now, on geript:
On October 15 2014 07:13 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 07:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
Yeah, I find it hard to believe that mafia would actually shoot the prime.
What does everyone think about just leaving both hopeless and GB alive today? I'm not sure which we lynch. We definitely lynch 1.
This is his first post, even after hopeless thought I could be town. He didn't have second thoughts here. He decided that the thread should definetely lynch one. It will be a mislynch anyway.
Now, check this post I've just realised
On October 15 2014 07:19 geript wrote:
Did I have a bad read on GB. If that's the case then why claim.
THIS POST IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT. Why is he asking if he had a bad read on me? Why is he asking why did I claim? WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE POSTED ON THE SCUM QT?
Like, it sounds like he knows I'm VT and he is trying to understand why I decided to fake claim.
LOL
Damdred just posted this:
On October 15 2014 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Glowing did you bread from cop?
Why check hopeless here?
And asked nothing else, neither came back with a follow up. Again, he is not trying to figure the game. I'm having a hard time believing he is town.
Kush simply voted on Hopeless and fucked off. Like I would expect from a mafia, because he wouldn't care who to lynch:
On October 15 2014 07:36 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 07:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
GB if your next post isnt something along the lines of "lol jk" I will fucking end you. This is your one and only warning. ah hahahahah ##vote hopeless
VE's reaction was very solid logic and I believe that his inquisitive tone makes him townie.
That's what I've got, Rayn.
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Again. There was three prime claims and a parity cop claim.
Every fucking townie "knows" one of the claims is scum because THAT'S HOW IT IS!!!!
Why is voting for the more unreasonable claim scummy but not voting not scummy as you are saying (regarding geript, kush and CR)? You are turning the situation upside town. Assuming you are town you should SUSPECT the people who doubted there is mafia in you/Hopeless. Not the people who say "lol this claim is way more scummier and one of the dudes is mafia anyways".
I still can't understand why you would even remotely think mafia!Hopeless would shoot prime!DP ever on N1. There is literally zero reason to do so, if Hopeless was mafia they would NEVER EVER shoot DP because DP is the ONLY backup lynch for them if someone claims a power role (which mafia cannot know exists / not). That seems to be the ONLY purpose for your fakeclaim, and the reason is retarded.
You also had the MOST reason to shoot DarthPunk on N1. That is a fact and it definitely does not make you look any better.
And this:
3) Why is sqrt's post @ D2 start good? Show me the good things about that post because i think it's terrible and contradicting itself.
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