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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 07:39 GMT
#1301
On October 15 2014 16:34 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky your vote analysis is crap. you can't do vote analysis until there is flipped mafia.


you're wrong, i have found multiple mafia easily from my vote analysis and been killed early in games because my vote analysis is strong on these forums. now answer my question. why are you not following through at all on me, even though in almost every one of your reads posts you mention me as a top mafia candidate?

So what's your analysis? There is no analysis in your "vote analysis post" for starters.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 07:41 GMT
#1302
On October 15 2014 16:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 16:34 ritoky wrote:
On October 15 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky your vote analysis is crap. you can't do vote analysis until there is flipped mafia.


you're wrong, i have found multiple mafia easily from my vote analysis and been killed early in games because my vote analysis is strong on these forums. now answer my question. why are you not following through at all on me, even though in almost every one of your reads posts you mention me as a top mafia candidate?

because i don't think you are most likely to be mafia and i can only lynch 1 person / day.


i am not buying what you're selling.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 07:46 GMT
#1303
Then make a case on me and call me mafia.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 07:49 GMT
#1304
On October 15 2014 16:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 16:34 ritoky wrote:
On October 15 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky your vote analysis is crap. you can't do vote analysis until there is flipped mafia.


you're wrong, i have found multiple mafia easily from my vote analysis and been killed early in games because my vote analysis is strong on these forums. now answer my question. why are you not following through at all on me, even though in almost every one of your reads posts you mention me as a top mafia candidate?

So what's your analysis? There is no analysis in your "vote analysis post" for starters.


with one sample of votes it is hard to conclude anything solid, usually you need two.

some of my initial thoughts are:

1) rayn was willing to vote off pretty much everyone except the person he most frequently listed as a scum read.

2) kush's vote combined with his lack of play and worse than me by a mile; yet no one really seems to be pressuring him other than for policy reasons.

still mulling some things about the rest of it over though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 07:54 GMT
#1305
On October 15 2014 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then make a case on me and call me mafia.


i have a question for you about myself and CR:

we both voted for oats about 10-15 minutes before the deadline. at the time when CR voted, oats was 3 votes clear of being lynched and he unvoted sqrt (who was tied for 2nd). when i voted for sqrt, he was 4 votes clear of being lynched and it was my first vote. do you think either of these are alignment indicative? and if 1 or both of us are mafia, what would be the reason we would have for voting on someone we knew would flip town when they are about to die?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 08:09 GMT
#1306
On October 15 2014 16:49 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 16:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 15 2014 16:34 ritoky wrote:
On October 15 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky your vote analysis is crap. you can't do vote analysis until there is flipped mafia.


you're wrong, i have found multiple mafia easily from my vote analysis and been killed early in games because my vote analysis is strong on these forums. now answer my question. why are you not following through at all on me, even though in almost every one of your reads posts you mention me as a top mafia candidate?

So what's your analysis? There is no analysis in your "vote analysis post" for starters.


with one sample of votes it is hard to conclude anything solid, usually you need two.

some of my initial thoughts are:

1) rayn was willing to vote off pretty much everyone except the person he most frequently listed as a scum read.

2) kush's vote combined with his lack of play and worse than me by a mile; yet no one really seems to be pressuring him other than for policy reasons.

still mulling some things about the rest of it over though.

So first of all you call me mafia (kindish?) for not wanting to lynch geript and now wanting to lynch him? well i do re-evaluate the game when new information appears. In this case the lynch and it's results. You also said i voted for "all the lead wagons except for geript and ritoky". That is a really biased wording because i in fact voted for GB, which i had good reasons to. Then i voted for sqrt which i also had good reasons to. I had Oats as mafia and i voted for him. You cannot just look at what someone voted for without analyzing the reasoning behind the votes. If my votes are that "bad" tell me where my reasoning for the votes is bad or where does it not make sense. You can't just say "you did this you are mafia" without telling WHY it does make one mafia. You are not telling why.

I also find it funny that you basically call me scum for some generic things without reasoning when the confirmed town DarthPunk did basically the exact same thing speaking in generic manner. How does it make sense i am mafia for what i did and DarthPunk the confirmed townie did the exact same thing?

Third; I am pretty much the ONLY person pressuring kushmasta, the dude you seem to be reading as mafia by your vote analysis. How does it make any sense you read me as mafia if kushmasta is in your opinion mafia and vice versa? It's literally impossible we are both mafia because if i am mafia i am setting myself into a position where i can't deny voting for kushmasta too long and if he is also mafia that's just really fucking bad mafia play. Why don't you realize that?
On October 15 2014 16:54 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then make a case on me and call me mafia.


i have a question for you about myself and CR:

we both voted for oats about 10-15 minutes before the deadline. at the time when CR voted, oats was 3 votes clear of being lynched and he unvoted sqrt (who was tied for 2nd). when i voted for sqrt, he was 4 votes clear of being lynched and it was my first vote. do you think either of these are alignment indicative? and if 1 or both of us are mafia, what would be the reason we would have for voting on someone we knew would flip town when they are about to die?

I don't think either of your votes are alignment indicative. Both of you could make that vote as any alignment.
Question to you: Which ones of your strong townreads you followed to Oats lynch on D1?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 08:11 GMT
#1307
....and if 1 or both of us are mafia, what would be the reason we would have for voting on someone we knew would flip town when they are about to die?

This is WIFOM. There are plenty of reasons to do that as mafia. Like taking a stance, seeming like you are interested in the lynch while you in fact are not, making people think it's stupid like you just said, etc etc...

As i said it does not make you mafia but it does definitely not make you town. It's pure WIFOM.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 08:20 GMT
#1308
Regarding all of the early stuff in your post:
1) you don't follow through strongly on some of your reads. you elect to interact extensively regarding game philosophy with kush, you play flippyfloppy with geript and VE, yet some of your reads that you reference very frequently you do absolutely nothing to pursue or develop any further even though there is usually content to go through or a person to interact with. DP didn't have that deficiency imo. So yes, for that and a couple other reasons you are leaning mafia for me.

On October 15 2014 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Question to you: Which ones of your strong townreads you followed to Oats lynch on D1?


VE and CR

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 08:23 GMT
#1309
the 2 got deleted when i was erasing the rest of your quote. rip.

2 was something like this:

2) your pressuring on kush is primarily placed in policy reasons and most of your interaction with him is regarding personal philosophy on how to play. your discussion with him prompted 0 information that could give you a read. that's not pressuring him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 08:25 GMT
#1310
further, as i have said in many games, i find that around 80% of the time the first person to list the lurkers in the game and suggest killing them or that they are the mafia is mafia. i don't know if you were precisely the first; i plan to go back and look, but you were very early on in the running for lynch the lurkers.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 08:34 GMT
#1311
On October 15 2014 17:20 ritoky wrote:
Regarding all of the early stuff in your post:
1) you don't follow through strongly on some of your reads. you elect to interact extensively regarding game philosophy with kush, you play flippyfloppy with geript and VE, yet some of your reads that you reference very frequently you do absolutely nothing to pursue or develop any further even though there is usually content to go through or a person to interact with. DP didn't have that deficiency imo. So yes, for that and a couple other reasons you are leaning mafia for me.

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Question to you: Which ones of your strong townreads you followed to Oats lynch on D1?


VE and CR


That is totally wrong. Point out to everyone where i do not do so.
I have been extremely clear about who i think is mafia and why my reads change when they do. I have been the MOST clear person regarding this in the game. Point out where i do not follow through on my reads and not just make some statements without any proof. I find it very hard to believe you actually think this is the case but if you really think so i want you to explain why so i can get a better read on you. It's good that you are actually having an opinion on something, now back up what you say with some actual evidence.
On October 15 2014 17:23 ritoky wrote:
the 2 got deleted when i was erasing the rest of your quote. rip.

2 was something like this:

2) your pressuring on kush is primarily placed in policy reasons and most of your interaction with him is regarding personal philosophy on how to play. your discussion with him prompted 0 information that could give you a read. that's not pressuring him.

How is it possible to have any other reason for thinking kush is mafia other than "he is not playing the game"?
Do you suggest i didn't try to get information from kush during N1?
How do you suggest i should have approached the situation on N1? What should have i asked him about then?
On October 15 2014 17:25 ritoky wrote:
further, as i have said in many games, i find that around 80% of the time the first person to list the lurkers in the game and suggest killing them or that they are the mafia is mafia. i don't know if you were precisely the first; i plan to go back and look, but you were very early on in the running for lynch the lurkers.

So then you must think GlowingBear is mafia. Go back and re-read. This is another contradiction because I EVEN POINTED OUT GLOWINGBEAR SUDDENLY WANTED TO LYNCH ALL THE LURKERS when he was on the line of getting lynched!!!

Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 08:47 GMT
#1312
On October 15 2014 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:20 ritoky wrote:
Regarding all of the early stuff in your post:
1) you don't follow through strongly on some of your reads. you elect to interact extensively regarding game philosophy with kush, you play flippyfloppy with geript and VE, yet some of your reads that you reference very frequently you do absolutely nothing to pursue or develop any further even though there is usually content to go through or a person to interact with. DP didn't have that deficiency imo. So yes, for that and a couple other reasons you are leaning mafia for me.

On October 15 2014 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Question to you: Which ones of your strong townreads you followed to Oats lynch on D1?


VE and CR


That is totally wrong. Point out to everyone where i do not do so.
I have been extremely clear about who i think is mafia and why my reads change when they do. I have been the MOST clear person regarding this in the game. Point out where i do not follow through on my reads and not just make some statements without any proof. I find it very hard to believe you actually think this is the case but if you really think so i want you to explain why so i can get a better read on you. It's good that you are actually having an opinion on something, now back up what you say with some actual evidence.
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:23 ritoky wrote:
the 2 got deleted when i was erasing the rest of your quote. rip.

2 was something like this:

2) your pressuring on kush is primarily placed in policy reasons and most of your interaction with him is regarding personal philosophy on how to play. your discussion with him prompted 0 information that could give you a read. that's not pressuring him.

How is it possible to have any other reason for thinking kush is mafia other than "he is not playing the game"?
Do you suggest i didn't try to get information from kush during N1?
How do you suggest i should have approached the situation on N1? What should have i asked him about then?
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:25 ritoky wrote:
further, as i have said in many games, i find that around 80% of the time the first person to list the lurkers in the game and suggest killing them or that they are the mafia is mafia. i don't know if you were precisely the first; i plan to go back and look, but you were very early on in the running for lynch the lurkers.

So then you must think GlowingBear is mafia. Go back and re-read. This is another contradiction because I EVEN POINTED OUT GLOWINGBEAR SUDDENLY WANTED TO LYNCH ALL THE LURKERS when he was on the line of getting lynched!!!

Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?


1st part: your read on me. you actively refuse to read my posts until now yet have me listed as mafia.

2nd part: i think his throwaway vote on a confirmed townie is a good place to start on solid info on kush.

3rd part: it's only really the 1st person that matters. and yes i think GB is mafia, i have for a while. him wanting to do it doesn't mean you didn't do it as well.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 08:53 GMT
#1313
On October 15 2014 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?


Who is mutually exclusive from who from being mafia together? I wasn't aware that people are so strongly associated that it is actually impossible for them to be mafia together. I mean, bussing isn't a thing right? Please enlighten me on this perfect knowledge you have.

Also your defense seems quite exaggerated and over the top especially from someone you have thought is scum for a long time. Especially when I have only stated I think you're leaning mafia for me. GB is pretty clearly the lynch for me today unless something jesus worthy happens.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 09:18 GMT
#1314
On October 15 2014 17:47 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:20 ritoky wrote:
Regarding all of the early stuff in your post:
1) you don't follow through strongly on some of your reads. you elect to interact extensively regarding game philosophy with kush, you play flippyfloppy with geript and VE, yet some of your reads that you reference very frequently you do absolutely nothing to pursue or develop any further even though there is usually content to go through or a person to interact with. DP didn't have that deficiency imo. So yes, for that and a couple other reasons you are leaning mafia for me.

On October 15 2014 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Question to you: Which ones of your strong townreads you followed to Oats lynch on D1?


VE and CR


That is totally wrong. Point out to everyone where i do not do so.
I have been extremely clear about who i think is mafia and why my reads change when they do. I have been the MOST clear person regarding this in the game. Point out where i do not follow through on my reads and not just make some statements without any proof. I find it very hard to believe you actually think this is the case but if you really think so i want you to explain why so i can get a better read on you. It's good that you are actually having an opinion on something, now back up what you say with some actual evidence.
On October 15 2014 17:23 ritoky wrote:
the 2 got deleted when i was erasing the rest of your quote. rip.

2 was something like this:

2) your pressuring on kush is primarily placed in policy reasons and most of your interaction with him is regarding personal philosophy on how to play. your discussion with him prompted 0 information that could give you a read. that's not pressuring him.

How is it possible to have any other reason for thinking kush is mafia other than "he is not playing the game"?
Do you suggest i didn't try to get information from kush during N1?
How do you suggest i should have approached the situation on N1? What should have i asked him about then?
On October 15 2014 17:25 ritoky wrote:
further, as i have said in many games, i find that around 80% of the time the first person to list the lurkers in the game and suggest killing them or that they are the mafia is mafia. i don't know if you were precisely the first; i plan to go back and look, but you were very early on in the running for lynch the lurkers.

So then you must think GlowingBear is mafia. Go back and re-read. This is another contradiction because I EVEN POINTED OUT GLOWINGBEAR SUDDENLY WANTED TO LYNCH ALL THE LURKERS when he was on the line of getting lynched!!!

Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?


1st part: your read on me. you actively refuse to read my posts until now yet have me listed as mafia.

2nd part: i think his throwaway vote on a confirmed townie is a good place to start on solid info on kush.

3rd part: it's only really the 1st person that matters. and yes i think GB is mafia, i have for a while. him wanting to do it doesn't mean you didn't do it as well.

On October 15 2014 17:53 ritoky wrote:
1st: Again. I have already stated why i am not focusing on you atm. You are not my top suspect and i do not want to lynch you atm. wtf is this? should i be pushing all my reads that are not solely town? that's retarded. you don't focus on too many places at once.

2nd: That is a really bad observation. So why am i not town then because i basically hard defended that said confirmed town for the whole fucking D1 when it would have been the easiest mislynch ever? Also Sn0 was NOT a confirmed townie on D1, so you are twisting the facts.

3rd: so only the first person matters but i did it TOO so it makes also ME scummy?????!?!? hahahahah!

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?


Who is mutually exclusive from who from being mafia together? I wasn't aware that people are so strongly associated that it is actually impossible for them to be mafia together. I mean, bussing isn't a thing right? Please enlighten me on this perfect knowledge you have.

Also your defense seems quite exaggerated and over the top especially from someone you have thought is scum for a long time. Especially when I have only stated I think you're leaning mafia for me. GB is pretty clearly the lynch for me today unless something jesus worthy happens.

It is impossible that i am mafia with either GB or kush.
If you can't see that i'll lynch you today. So you better drop either me or both of those guys on your scumlist in case you are town. The reasons are obvious for anyone who has paid any attention to the game and therefore i am not willing to elaborate on them. Yes, bussing is a thing. Unnecessary bussing is not, at least it's not for me. How the FUCK does it make any sense i - as mafia - tell people to lynch all claims - then GB - as my partner - fucking fakeclaims the next second? NEVER! If i was mafia with kush i would just call him an idiot and ignore him because i could very well do that, every-fucking-body has ignored him so far so i could do that aswell, easily. But no, instead of that you are suggesting there is a possibility that i am bussing him, for no fucking reason?!?!?!?!

Dude you are either playing quite badly or scum. Which is it?

And no, i am not defending myself because there is nothing to defend to. I am trying to figure out your alignment and so far you're not looking quite dandy because you make absolutely no sense in ANYTHING you say. You are just throwing shit left and right without actually thinking what anything people actually say means.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 09:19 GMT
#1315
EBWOP: formatting

On October 15 2014 17:47 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:20 ritoky wrote:
Regarding all of the early stuff in your post:
1) you don't follow through strongly on some of your reads. you elect to interact extensively regarding game philosophy with kush, you play flippyfloppy with geript and VE, yet some of your reads that you reference very frequently you do absolutely nothing to pursue or develop any further even though there is usually content to go through or a person to interact with. DP didn't have that deficiency imo. So yes, for that and a couple other reasons you are leaning mafia for me.

On October 15 2014 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Question to you: Which ones of your strong townreads you followed to Oats lynch on D1?


VE and CR


That is totally wrong. Point out to everyone where i do not do so.
I have been extremely clear about who i think is mafia and why my reads change when they do. I have been the MOST clear person regarding this in the game. Point out where i do not follow through on my reads and not just make some statements without any proof. I find it very hard to believe you actually think this is the case but if you really think so i want you to explain why so i can get a better read on you. It's good that you are actually having an opinion on something, now back up what you say with some actual evidence.
On October 15 2014 17:23 ritoky wrote:
the 2 got deleted when i was erasing the rest of your quote. rip.

2 was something like this:

2) your pressuring on kush is primarily placed in policy reasons and most of your interaction with him is regarding personal philosophy on how to play. your discussion with him prompted 0 information that could give you a read. that's not pressuring him.

How is it possible to have any other reason for thinking kush is mafia other than "he is not playing the game"?
Do you suggest i didn't try to get information from kush during N1?
How do you suggest i should have approached the situation on N1? What should have i asked him about then?
On October 15 2014 17:25 ritoky wrote:
further, as i have said in many games, i find that around 80% of the time the first person to list the lurkers in the game and suggest killing them or that they are the mafia is mafia. i don't know if you were precisely the first; i plan to go back and look, but you were very early on in the running for lynch the lurkers.

So then you must think GlowingBear is mafia. Go back and re-read. This is another contradiction because I EVEN POINTED OUT GLOWINGBEAR SUDDENLY WANTED TO LYNCH ALL THE LURKERS when he was on the line of getting lynched!!!

Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?


1st part: your read on me. you actively refuse to read my posts until now yet have me listed as mafia.

2nd part: i think his throwaway vote on a confirmed townie is a good place to start on solid info on kush.

3rd part: it's only really the 1st person that matters. and yes i think GB is mafia, i have for a while. him wanting to do it doesn't mean you didn't do it as well.

1st: Again. I have already stated why i am not focusing on you atm. You are not my top suspect and i do not want to lynch you atm. wtf is this? should i be pushing all my reads that are not solely town? that's retarded. you don't focus on too many places at once.

2nd: That is a really bad observation. So why am i not town then because i basically hard defended that said confirmed town for the whole fucking D1 when it would have been the easiest mislynch ever? Also Sn0 was NOT a confirmed townie on D1, so you are twisting the facts.

3rd: so only the first person matters but i did it TOO so it makes also ME scummy?????!?!? hahahahah!

On October 15 2014 17:53 ritoky wrote:
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On October 15 2014 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?


Who is mutually exclusive from who from being mafia together? I wasn't aware that people are so strongly associated that it is actually impossible for them to be mafia together. I mean, bussing isn't a thing right? Please enlighten me on this perfect knowledge you have.

Also your defense seems quite exaggerated and over the top especially from someone you have thought is scum for a long time. Especially when I have only stated I think you're leaning mafia for me. GB is pretty clearly the lynch for me today unless something jesus worthy happens.

It is impossible that i am mafia with either GB or kush.
If you can't see that i'll lynch you today. So you better drop either me or both of those guys on your scumlist in case you are town. The reasons are obvious for anyone who has paid any attention to the game and therefore i am not willing to elaborate on them. Yes, bussing is a thing. Unnecessary bussing is not, at least it's not for me. How the FUCK does it make any sense i - as mafia - tell people to lynch all claims - then GB - as my partner - fucking fakeclaims the next second? NEVER! If i was mafia with kush i would just call him an idiot and ignore him because i could very well do that, every-fucking-body has ignored him so far so i could do that aswell, easily. But no, instead of that you are suggesting there is a possibility that i am bussing him, for no fucking reason?!?!?!?!

Dude you are either playing quite badly or scum. Which is it?

And no, i am not defending myself because there is nothing to defend to. I am trying to figure out your alignment and so far you're not looking quite dandy because you make absolutely no sense in ANYTHING you say. You are just throwing shit left and right without actually thinking what anything people actually say means.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 09:22 GMT
#1316
Also tell me where have i wanted to lynch "all the lurkers"?
Only lurker i have so far heavily considered lynching is sqrt and that was NOT because he was lurking.

Again, back up your statements with proper quotes. Oh right... you can't!!! Because i didn't do what you said i did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 09:31 GMT
#1317
ritoky explain to me why you did read VE & CR as top town on D1.
That's not clear from your posting at all.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 15 2014 09:53 GMT
#1318
On October 15 2014 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

1st: Again. I have already stated why i am not focusing on you atm. You are not my top suspect and i do not want to lynch you atm. wtf is this? should i be pushing all my reads that are not solely town? that's retarded. you don't focus on too many places at once.

2nd: That is a really bad observation. So why am i not town then because i basically hard defended that said confirmed town for the whole fucking D1 when it would have been the easiest mislynch ever? Also Sn0 was NOT a confirmed townie on D1, so you are twisting the facts.

3rd: so only the first person matters but i did it TOO so it makes also ME scummy?????!?!? hahahahah!

It is impossible that i am mafia with either GB or kush.
If you can't see that i'll lynch you today. So you better drop either me or both of those guys on your scumlist in case you are town. The reasons are obvious for anyone who has paid any attention to the game and therefore i am not willing to elaborate on them. Yes, bussing is a thing. Unnecessary bussing is not, at least it's not for me. How the FUCK does it make any sense i - as mafia - tell people to lynch all claims - then GB - as my partner - fucking fakeclaims the next second? NEVER! If i was mafia with kush i would just call him an idiot and ignore him because i could very well do that, every-fucking-body has ignored him so far so i could do that aswell, easily. But no, instead of that you are suggesting there is a possibility that i am bussing him, for no fucking reason?!?!?!?!

Dude you are either playing quite badly or scum. Which is it?

And no, i am not defending myself because there is nothing to defend to. I am trying to figure out your alignment and so far you're not looking quite dandy because you make absolutely no sense in ANYTHING you say. You are just throwing shit left and right without actually thinking what anything people actually say means.


1) i like developing my reads on people over the course of the game. regardless of if they are my express target or not. you actively refused to read my posts (not town thing to do) and you did not develop anything from your interaction with kush other than fluffity fluff fluff.

2) you interacted with him more than ANYONE in the entire thread AFTER he had flipped; and didn't even mention it once. if he refuses to answer, that's on him; but you didn't even try. yet he gets scum read. mhm. i think there's a level of conceit to your game.

3) like i said it's only the first person that matters in the statistics. i said it earlier, but apparently you're still not reading what i am typing. i remember you being one of the first, but maybe not the first. i plan to go back and look.

It is possible that you're mafia with GB and/or kush. So you better start pushing a lynch on me. Is it likely that the mafia team is rayn/gb/kush? No, probably not. But I certainly don't deny it is POSSIBLE. The rest of this is basically like me saying "Hey, I voted on a guy 10 mins before the deadline who was already 4 votes over being dead, so I am confirmed town amirite?" There's no real substance. It's unflipped associated, further it's unflipped associated not backed up with votes.

And if you don't think you're both defending yourself and overreacting to the minimal accusations of someone you supposedly think is scum; you might want to re-read your posts. If that doesn't work, you need to improve your English or reading comprehension. Quite defensive.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 09:57 GMT
#1319
On October 15 2014 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky explain to me why you did read VE & CR as top town on D1.
That's not clear from your posting at all.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 10:00 GMT
#1320
And if you don't think you're both defending yourself and overreacting to the minimal accusations of someone you supposedly think is scum; you might want to re-read your posts. If that doesn't work, you need to improve your English or reading comprehension. Quite defensive.

You call it defending. I call it pointing out statements that are ridiculous and have no proof behind them.
Could you post the proof?
Or let's do it this way...

Question to everyone:
Who thinks what ritoky says about me has proof behind it and/or has he clearly pointed out the proof he is claiming is there?
Do you think his accusations towards me are reasonable for someone who is properly reading the game?
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